Re: [VOTE] Accept Storm into the Incubator

2013-09-18 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (non-binding) On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote: Discussion about the Storm proposal has subsided, issues raised now seemingly resolved. I'd like to call a vote to accept Storm as a new Incubator podling. The proposal is included below and is also

Re: [VOTE] Accept Twill for Incubation

2013-11-08 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (non-binding) On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Andreas Neumann a...@apache.org wrote: The discussion about the Weave proposal has calmed. As the outcome of the discussion, we have chosen a new name for the project, Twill. I would like to call a vote for Twill to become an incubated

Re: [PROPOSAL] Phoenix for Incubation

2013-11-14 Thread Andrew Purtell
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.comwrote: It is indeed very specific for HBase use I suppose. Would it be more beneficial to make it sub-project of HBase to get full community support from HBase? I'm on the HBase PMC and am enthusiastically +1 for

Re: [VOTE] Phoenix for Apache Incubator

2013-12-04 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 On Wednesday, December 4, 2013, Michael Sick wrote: +1 here Have multiple clients that are interested in Phoenix over HBase. -- Best regards, - Andy Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein (via Tom White)

Re: [VOTE] Phoenix for incubator project

2013-12-05 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Friday, December 6, 2013, Stack wrote: Discussion of the Phoenix proposal has settled since its original posting on November 7th. Feedback has been incorporated. Let us now move to a vote. Should Phoenix become an Apache incubator project? [] +1 Accept Phoenix into the

Re: [VOTE] Accept DataFu into the Incubator

2014-01-01 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) I used an at the time much earlier version of DataFu at a previous employer. Nice to hear about the changes and addition since then. On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Jakob Homan jgho...@gmail.com wrote: Incubator- Following the discussion earlier, I'm calling a vote to accept

Re: transferring Github issues to JIRA?

2014-01-07 Thread Andrew Purtell
So that means we need an INFRA ticket to plug that in and run an import? On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Steve Rowe sar...@gmail.com wrote: Atlassian provides a plugin for that: https://marketplace.atlassian.com/plugins/com.atlassian.jira.plugins.jira-importers-github-plugin On Mon, Jan

Re: transferring Github issues to JIRA?

2014-01-09 Thread Andrew Purtell
/jira/browse/PHOENIX), so that should simplify the import task whichever way you end up going. Good luck, Steve On Jan 7, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: So that means we need an INFRA ticket to plug that in and run an import? On Mon, Jan 6

Re: January 2014 Incubator report timeline

2014-01-09 Thread Andrew Purtell
My wiki user name is AndrewPurtell. Please kindly whitelist also. On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:44 AM, Steven Noels stev...@apache.org wrote: same here - my user name for the Incubator Wiki is StevenNoels Done --

Re: Hoya Proposal

2014-01-13 Thread Andrew Purtell
There isn't anything in the same domain named Hoya that I am aware of. One can get to Hoya from other avenues - it is a county and city in Germany; or it is the genus for several hundred tropical plants. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoya, hoya flowers grow in a configuration referred

Re: best development methodology for Apache git?

2014-02-03 Thread Andrew Purtell
On the question of tooling, that brings us back to James' inquiry about having infrastructure that can emulate the GitHub pull request workflow in house: Something like the Github model that combines a) the ability for managing branches and visually reviewing patches and b) a means to gate

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Phoenix 2.2.3 incubating

2014-02-24 Thread Andrew Purtell
Hi Sebb, On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 2:19 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: I've had a quick look at the (sole) archive, and it contains both source and compiled jars. Although it is OK to release convenience binaries, there must be a source only release, as that is the ASF mission - to release

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Phoenix 2.2.3 incubating

2014-02-24 Thread Andrew Purtell
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.comwrote: Are you saying it is ok to contain compiled executed binaries if they were signed? I did not take a position on that. The how-to-release documentation perhaps has more room for interpretation than is desirable.

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Phoenix 2.2.3 incubating

2014-02-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
Thanks for the clarifications and background reading. On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote: Taking a step back... My feeling about many of the ASF's policy docs is that they would be clearer if they were formulated using imperatives (SHOULD/MUST/etc.)

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Phoenix 2.2.3 incubating RC4

2014-03-11 Thread Andrew Purtell
Let's also change the Phoenix POM to not exclude the files in examples/ since they have been raised as an issue more than once, if I guess correctly here. On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:18 PM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:43 PM, James Taylor jamestay...@apache.org

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release of Apache Phoenix 2.2.3 incubating RC4

2014-03-13 Thread Andrew Purtell
it is included in next proposed release. I am assuming this RC have your +1 Vote? - Henry On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Andrew Purtell andrew.purt...@gmail.com wrote: Let's also change the Phoenix POM to not exclude the files in examples/ since they have been raised as an issue more than once

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Phoenix 4.0.0 incubating RC1

2014-03-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) carrying my vote on dev@phoenix.incubator over to general@, caveat the HBase 0.98.1 release happens as expected before this vote closes. Otherwise we should cancel this vote. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:46 AM, James Taylor jamestay...@apache.orgwrote: Hi everyone, This is a call

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Phoenix 3.0.0 incubating RC1

2014-03-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:54 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 March 2014 16:39, James Taylor jamestay...@apache.org wrote: [...] The source tarball, including signatures, digests, etc can be found at:

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Phoenix 3.0.0 incubating RC1

2014-03-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
Pardon, got -bin and -src crossed mentally, indeed they are there. Looks like src was packaged after running the RAT check. Does this require a new RC? On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:59 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 March 2014 21:56, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: On Tue

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Phoenix 3.0.0 incubating RC1

2014-03-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 March 2014 22:01, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: Pardon, got -bin and -src crossed mentally, indeed they are there. Looks like src was packaged after running the RAT check. Does this require a new RC? If I were the RM I would respin the RC

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Phoenix 3.0.0 incubating RC1

2014-03-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:25 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, we bundle ANTLR in our binary distribution. Most of the other items are pulled in based on the transitive dependencies of other jars we've bundled in our binary distribution. I see now why I did not notice the 3rd party

Re: Slider Proposal

2014-04-10 Thread Andrew Purtell
Hi Steve, Does Slider target the deployment and management of components/projects in the Hadoop project itself? Not just the ecosystem examples mentioned in the proposal? I don't see this mentioned in the proposal. The reason I ask is I'm wondering how Slider differentiates from projects like

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratosphere into the incubator

2014-04-11 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Alan Gates ga...@hortonworks.com wrote: Based on the results of the discussion thread ( http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201403.mbox/%3CCE562EE9-968C-420E-A719-8C08CDAC99F8%40hortonworks.com%3Ein particular notice the discussion

Re: Slider Proposal

2014-04-12 Thread Andrew Purtell
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 3:27 AM, Steve Loughran ste...@hortonworks.comwrote: On 10 April 2014 16:28, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: Hi Steve, Does Slider target the deployment and management of components/projects in the Hadoop project itself? Not just the ecosystem examples

Re: [VOTE] Accept Slider into the incubator

2014-04-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
Based on prior experience I'd say the Members take a liberal attitude to duplication of efforts. There are pros and cons. Constructive competition versus siloing and dissipation of the potential of a common community. Given what I've read on this thread I hope ultimately Twill, Helix, and Slider,

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Phoenix from the Incubator

2014-05-01 Thread Andrew Purtell
: * Andrew Purtellapurt...@apache.org * Anoop Sam Johnanoopsamj...@apache.org * Devaraj Das d...@apache.org * Eli Levineelilev...@apache.org * Enis Soztutar e...@apache.org * Gabriel Reid gr

Re: [PROPOSAL] Optiq

2014-05-01 Thread Andrew Purtell
One could imagine as part of the case for incubation and graduation both an articulation of the project's place in the larger ecosystem, similar to how academic papers customarily place their work and novel findings within the larger field in 'Related Work'. If not part of the initial proposal,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Optiq

2014-05-02 Thread Andrew Purtell
in the above paragraph. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Chris Douglas cdoug...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: If not part of the initial proposal, then at least making a good case as a criteria for graduation, and writing

Re: [PROPOSAL] Optiq

2014-05-02 Thread Andrew Purtell
a tool for competition against healthy projects that has nothing to do with code or abstractions or personal differences. I think this betrays the Apache Way. Maybe I'm in an ethical minority. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: All that I suggest

Re: [VOTE] Accept Optiq into the incubator

2014-05-11 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Ashutosh Chauhan hashut...@apache.orgwrote: Based on the results of the discussion thread ( http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201404.mbox/%3CCA%2BFBdFQA4TghLRdh9GgDKaMtKLQHxE_QZV%3DoZ7HfiDSA_jyqwg%40mail.gmail.com%3E ), I would

Re: [VOTE] Accept Parquet into the incubator

2014-05-19 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Chris Aniszczyk caniszc...@gmail.comwrote: Based on the results of the discussion thread: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201405.mbox/%3CCAJg1wMRGhLu4P7LeVQB%2B5K0C-fr-pw2448uj%3D6-3zHag4F1EbA%40mail.gmail.com%3E I

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Argus Proposal

2014-07-15 Thread Andrew Purtell
I had started typing up a response to Henry's mail but will discard the beginning of it to say I agree with Owen. A new project coming into the incubator quite naturally could have the initial set of committers entirely from one organization. An organization donating an existing code base, for

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Argus Proposal

2014-07-16 Thread Andrew Purtell
This statement might not be quite right: Even within Hadoop complex eco-system, each components have limited or no security controls. How do you define the 'Hadoop complex eco-system'? If that definition includes projects such as HBase, we have significant security controls, so that wouldn't be

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Argus Proposal

2014-07-17 Thread Andrew Purtell
to discuss more on this topic. Thanks Bosco On Jul 16, 2014, at 7:38 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: This statement might not be quite right: Even within Hadoop complex eco-system, each components have limited or no security controls. How do you define the 'Hadoop

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Argus Proposal

2014-07-17 Thread Andrew Purtell
wrote: Andrews, thanks for your feedback. My responses are inline. Regards Bosco On Jul 17, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: Thank you for writing back with a detailed clarification. Regarding encryption at rest, HDFS is adding it as HDFS-6134, so likely

Re: [VOTE] Argus as a new incubator project

2014-07-22 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) Diversity and 'nonpartisan' governance will be critical for graduating a security project, in my opinion, so it will be important to monitor the attention and openness in community development during incubation. Although the folks behind Argus do not wish to join Apache Sentry

Re: [VOTE] Accept REEF into the Apache Incubator

2014-08-11 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Byung-Gon Chun bgc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for participating in the proposal discussion on REEF. The discussion has calmed. I would like to call a vote for acceptance of REEF into the Apache Incubator. The proposal is attached below,

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Storm to a TLP

2014-08-19 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) PMC and mentors voted to graduate, status looks good. Also seeing more outreach from Storm folks, talks and presentations. Keep it up! On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:02 PM, P. Taylor Goetz ptgo...@apache.org wrote: Apache Storm has been incubating since September 2014. Since then we

Re: [VOTE] Accept Drill into the Apache Incubator

2012-08-09 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (non-binding) On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to call a vote for accepting Drill for incubation in the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available below. Discussion over the last few days has been quite positive. Please cast your

Re: [VOTE] Accept Tez into Incubator

2013-02-20 Thread Andrew Purtell
Arun, would you please clarify how Tez is (conceptually) different from the Workflow AM proposed in MAPREDUCE-4495/OOZIE-1178? I would also like to understand this as well. They seem largely identical, but the Tez proposal has a set of initial committers disjunctive from those who performed the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Curator for the Apache Incubator

2013-02-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (non binding) Apache ZooKeeper is critical for Apace HBase. There was some interest in using Curator for managing those interactions going forward, for reasons as described in this proposal, but also concern about its status wrt. community. A successful incubation will put those concerns to

Re: [VOTE] Accept Tajo into the Apache Incubator

2013-03-02 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (non binding) Would be interested in helping out with HBase integration, and Bigtop packaging. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Hyunsik Choi hyun...@apache.org wrote: Hi Folks, I'd like to call a VOTE for acceptance of Tajo into the Apache incubator. The vote will close on Mar 7 at

Re: [VOTE] Accept Curator into the Incubator

2013-03-05 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (non binding). On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Jordan Zimmerman jor...@jordanzimmerman.com wrote: Discussion has settled down so I am calling a VOTE for acceptance of Curator into the Apache Incubator. The vote will close at on Friday, March 8, 2013. [ ] +1 Accept Curator into the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Silk as new Incubator project

2014-09-22 Thread Andrew Purtell
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:21PM, Henry Saputra wrote: Hi Cos, Looks like a good start of the proposal. How would this project relate to compare to existing ones like Apache Spark, Storm, or Samza? The proposal will

Re: [PROPOSAL] Silk as new Incubator project

2014-09-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
it does decent amount of caching to reduce IO overhead. It seems like an implementation detail to me, but do you think this needs to be added into the proposal? Thanks! Cos On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 08:34AM, Andrew Purtell wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Konstantin Boudnik c

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] HTrace for Apache Incubator

2014-11-02 Thread Andrew Purtell
Really great to see an incubation proposal for HTrace. If you need another mentor, please consider me. I don't think you need to list HTrace is not the primary focus of any of the current list of contributors as a risk. One can say that about many (perhaps the majority) of contributors to Apache

Re: [VOTE] Accept HTrace into the Apache Incubator

2014-11-06 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: Following the discussion earlier in the thread: http://s.apache.org/Dk7 I would like to call a VOTE for accepting HTrace as a new incubator project. The proposal is available at:

Re: [PROPOSAL] NiFi for Incubation

2014-11-21 Thread Andrew Purtell
From what I understand, that Accumulo may or may not suffer from bifurcation is debatable despite this blanket claim otherwise. Regardless, Sean's point is valid, even if only a theoretical concern for NiFi at this point. If the podling is interested in growing outside community I'd be happy to

Re: [PROPOSAL] NiFi for Incubation

2014-11-21 Thread Andrew Purtell
intent to grow outside of the project's current home. +1 (non-binding) for entry Andrew Purtell wrote: From what I understand, that Accumulo may or may not suffer from bifurcation is debatable despite this blanket claim otherwise. Regardless, Sean's point is valid, even if only a theoretical

Re: [VOTE] accept NiFi into the incubator

2014-11-21 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 ( binding) On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NiFiProposal has elicited a cheerful and positive conversation, so I offer this vote. Vote will be open for the usual 72 hours ... Here is my [+1] -- Best

Re: [VOTE] accept SAMOA into incubator

2014-12-11 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Daniel Dai dai...@gmail.com wrote: Following the discussion earlier, I'm calling a vote to accept SAMOA as a new Incubator project. [ ] +1 Accept SAMOA into the Incubator [ ] +0 Indifferent to the acceptance of SAMOA [ ] -1 Do not accept SAMOA

Re: Incubator report sign-off

2014-12-29 Thread Andrew Purtell
There are honorary and practical reasons why a project may view the PMC Chair and the project leader as one in the same. Honorary: The community elevated one member as lead and assigned the Chair role out of respect. Practical: The PMC Chair has the power to dissolve the PMC, and is an

Re: Incubator report sign-off

2014-12-29 Thread Andrew Purtell
29, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: On 12/29/2014 01:45 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote: There are honorary and practical reasons why a project may view the PMC Chair and the project leader as one in the same. Honorary: The community elevated one member as lead

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-26 Thread Andrew Purtell
: On 25.01.2015 21:07, Andrew Purtell wrote: I'm not arguing with you Greg (smile), honestly, Subversion sounds like a very laid back place to participate. It's different in Bigtop, HBase, Phoenix, Whirr (of historical note), and Hadoop (secondhand observation), Hive (secondhand observation

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

2015-01-19 Thread Andrew Purtell
I do not dispute anything written below nor do I intend this to be a last word, just a clarification. I ​ n neither model are people powerless in any meaningful sense. I approached these proposals by putting myself in the shoes of a newcomer as best as I'm able (I've been PMC for years and PPMC

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

2015-01-19 Thread Andrew Purtell
I think the cures are all problematic and might be worse than the disease. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: Hi! at this point we have had a few lively threads discussing

Re: Final draft of IPMC report for January 2015

2015-01-16 Thread Andrew Purtell
Thanks for bringing to my attention that I did not sign off on the HTrace report this month. It was due to an unfortunate busy spell. Since according to this report it appears I may not be able to adequately mentor HTrace, I have resigned as mentor from that podling effective immediately. On

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: Those of us in such a new incoming community might get the commit bit but can't vote on adding committers, See my reply to Jan. C == PPMC solves this completely

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
.) Of course in IPMC voting it is different, but the IPMC is where supervision happens, or doesn't, as some argue. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: On 25.01.2015 19:16, Andrew Purtell wrote: With a PPMC we invite newcomers to make votes we call binding

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-23 Thread Andrew Purtell
I find the direction this discussion has gone personally disappointing, but I might be missing understanding of some crucial point. 2. the initial PMC is comprised of only ASF Members. committers can be ​ ​ chosen however the community decides. but the *project* is reviewed by ​ people with

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-23 Thread Andrew Purtell
is this not true? What can the incoming community make a binding vote on, under this proposal? On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: Those of us in such a new incoming community might

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NiFI 0.0.1-incubating

2015-01-28 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Witt joe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello The Apache NiFi (incubating) team is pleased to be calling this vote for the source release of Apache NiFi 0.0.1-incubating. With six binding (in the ppmc sense) +1 votes and no dissenting votes the

Re: Incubator report sign-off

2015-01-05 Thread Andrew Purtell
One extra thing to note, that while we can *start* this comittee as dedicated ​ ​ to Incubating projects, it will be a very natural extension to get it involved ​ ​ in monitoring all of TLPs, not just pTLPs. What problem exists today where the Board needs ​such ​ a buffer? In what ways could

Re: Incubator report sign-off

2015-01-05 Thread Andrew Purtell
An addition of the overseeing committee, will shield the board from ​ ​ *some* of the day-to-day business of telling the pTLP that something ​ ​ needs to be fixed. Is this pretty close to IPMC in another name? Who gets to be on the new overseeing committee? Not current IPMC membership right? So

Re: Incubator report sign-off

2015-01-09 Thread Andrew Purtell
Thanks Roman. On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: One extra thing to note, that while we can *start* this comittee as dedicated to Incubating projects, it will be a very

Re: [VOTE] Accept Groovy into the Apache Incubator

2015-03-20 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: Following the discussion earlier in the thread: http://s.apache.org/KWE I would like to call a VOTE for accepting Groovy as a new incubator project. The proposal is available at:

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
to be meaningful. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: On 25.01.2015 19:51, Andrew Purtell wrote: That hardly ever happens (it's most likely when there are problems with ​ ​ a podling's first few releases), which is why you get the impression ​ ​ that the PPMC

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
In all of the projects I have been PMC or PPMC on, we vote on releases, new committers, and elevating committers to PMC. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: This is *exactly

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
Yes, and I briefly confused the two, and fessed up. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: Go to the FIRST POST of this thread (titled: my pTLP view!!). THAT is what we're talking about. Not the Strawman. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 and similar as shorthand for our preference, but we never tally, as it isn't a formal vote. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: In all of the projects I have been PMC or PPMC on, we vote on releases, new committers, and elevating committers to PMC

Re: Do we need @ASFIncubator ?

2015-03-23 Thread Andrew Purtell
It certainly wouldn't hurt to have another channel for getting the word out. I presume @ASFIncubator would announce new proposals, new projects, project graduations, and releases of incubating software? Anything else besides that ? (Which is quite a lot already.) This would be more Incubator

Re: [DISCUSS] Trafodion Incubation Proposal

2015-05-12 Thread Andrew Purtell
If you are looking for mentors, I helped on the Phoenix incubation, happy to do so again for Trafodion. On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Stack st...@duboce.net wrote: I would like to start up a discussion on Trafodion joining the ASF as an incubating project. Trafodion is a webscale

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NiFi 0.1.0-incubating

2015-05-14 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 Checked signature and sums of nifi-parent (1.0.0), nifi-nar-maven-plugin (1.0.1) and nifi (0.1.0) source release zipfiles. Unpacked all source release zipfiles, layout looks good README, LICENSE, NOTICE, and DISCLAIMER files are present in each source zip and look ok Source builds of

Re: [VOTE] Accept Trafodion into Apache Incubator

2015-05-20 Thread Andrew Purtell
Company, Amanda.Kay.MoranAThpDOTcom Suresh Subbiah, Hewlett-Packard Company, Suresh.SubbiahAThpDOTcom Sandyha Sundaresan, Hewlett-Packard Company, Sandhya.SundaresanAThpDOTcom Sponsors Champion Michael Stack, StackATapacheDOTorg Nominated Mentors Andrew Purtell apurtellATapacheDOTorg Devaraj

Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

2015-06-22 Thread Andrew Purtell
Pistachio can easily embed computation to the storage layer to achieve the best data locality to improve the computation performance significantly which is an innovative model comparing with the normal ways where the storage and compute are independent to each other. Have you heard of

Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

2015-06-22 Thread Andrew Purtell
It was a simple question, and not meant to suggest anything one way or other regarding my opinion of this proposal. On Monday, June 22, 2015, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:26 PM Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org javascript:; wrote: Pistachio can

Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

2015-06-26 Thread Andrew Purtell
:53 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: It was a simple question, and not meant to suggest anything one way or other regarding my opinion of this proposal. On Monday, June 22, 2015, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:26 PM Andrew Purtell

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-15 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 On Jun 12, 2015 9:24 AM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org javascript:; wrote: As Sean says he's been engaged with the project while acting as mentor, IMHO beyond mentor-ly duties. If the NiFi folks will have him

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache NiFi from the Incubator

2015-06-17 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding, podling mentor) On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Joe Witt joe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Apache Incubator This thread is to call a vote within the Incubator for the graduation of Apache NiFi. Status page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/nifi.html Incubator graduation

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-12 Thread Andrew Purtell
As Sean says he's been engaged with the project while acting as mentor, IMHO beyond mentor-ly duties. If the NiFi folks will have him on the initial PMC and he's willing to join it, this should resolve the stated concerns. On Friday, June 12, 2015, Sean Busbey bus...@cloudera.com wrote: On

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Andrew Purtell
​ In fact, in my opinion it leads to the very unfortunate side effect of IPMC ​ ​ feeling in need to justify why it exists by micromanaging podlings. I've been through incubation as a mentor on Phoenix, Nifi, and now getting up to speed on Trafodion, I have not seen micromanagement of podlings.

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-04 Thread Andrew Purtell
Can you provide a pointer to a specific example of what you mean? On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Arvind Prabhakar arv...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: ​ In fact, in my opinion it leads to the very unfortunate side effect

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-04 Thread Andrew Purtell
Who are the village spinsters? On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: On 03.08.2015 21:51, Julian Hyde wrote: In my experience incubating Calcite, the “overhead” was mostly the infrastructure and process, not politics. (If you think the incubator is political,

[Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator

2015-10-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
tes and no 0 or -1 votes. > > Thank you everyone for taking the time to review and cast your vote. > > We will now prepare a resolution for the next Board meeting. > > 10 binding: > * Henry Saputra > * Andrew Purtell > * Bertrand Delacretaz > * Julian Hyde > * P. Tayl

Re: [DISCUSS] S2Graph Incubator Proposal

2015-11-09 Thread Andrew Purtell
If you are looking for mentors let me volunteer as one. I think S2Graph has the potential to be a good addition to the Apache family given its relationships and dependencies with other Apache projects from the outset. On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Hyunsik Choi wrote: >

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-16 Thread Andrew Purtell
> After writing the above, I started to feel it was familiar and remember a > very similar discussion on hbase-dev last year: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hbase-dev/201508.mbox/%3CCA+RK=_dz+_rzumfwvya0tkvxtk4saeie6pwpgs2mxvsbq8h...@mail.gmail.com%3E - I'd recommend people go check

Re: Apache Metrics, Not Apache Humans

2015-11-15 Thread Andrew Purtell
> Because of Apache Infrastructure's centralized server model (email lists, version control, distributions, homepages, etc.), it has the ability to gather metrics such as, for example, the distribution of pushes to the repository, the branch factor of the mailing list, the centrality of the

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator

2015-10-15 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Luke Han wrote: > The Apache Kylin community and project made significant advances during the > incubating (from Nov 2014) and > believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. > > The Apache Kylin is very active. The

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator

2015-10-10 Thread Andrew Purtell
Agreed, it would be good to have this clarification. The vote is likely to proceed more smoothly. I'm in favor of graduation. I've been lurking over the past few months and the podling has been functioning well. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: >

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

2015-10-10 Thread Andrew Purtell
Big +1 If you don't mind a personal anecdote, in fact at work I was recently pointedly asked how the pay is over at the Foundation. (Smile) On Saturday, October 10, 2015, Patrick Hunt wrote: > 10x to what Chris said, put much better than I could. > > We all wear multiple

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

2015-10-12 Thread Andrew Purtell
I would not have been able to mentor Phoenix should it have come along now. At the time I was not employed by the originator of the project. Later I chose to join them in part because they contributed the results of their labor to Apache. My evaluation of how well a podling might be functioning

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

2015-10-09 Thread Andrew Purtell
We should address perceived, and certainly provable, instances of corruption at the Foundation directly, rather than prescribe policy that seeks to prevent future instances as if there is a precedent (but there isn't one here... at least one not spoken aloud, right?). > A mentor must not be

Re: [VOTE] Accept HAWQ into the Apache Incubator

2015-09-01 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 Yay, more SQL on Hadoop, party on. On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Following the discussion earlier: >http://s.apache.org/Gaf > > I would like to call a VOTE for accepting HAWQ > as a new incubator project. > > The proposal is available at: >

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Calcite from the Apache Incubator

2015-09-16 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) Good luck! On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > This is a vote for Calcite to become a top-level project. > > Since joining the Incubator in May, 2014, the Calcite > community has: > * Produced eight IPMC-approved releases under two release >

Re: interested in joining the IPMC

2015-12-12 Thread Andrew Purtell
We have had several people write in to general@ over the past few months with this type of request. In at least one case a request triggered a vote on the private list. We should update the incubator site with guidance on what is the best way to approach the IPMC if this isn't ideal. > On

Re: [VOTE] Accept Kudu into the Apache Incubator

2015-11-24 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) Good luck! On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Todd Lipcon wrote: > Hi all, > > Discussion on the [DISCUSS] thread seems to have wound down, so I'd like to > call a VOTE on acceptance of Kudu into the ASF Incubator. The proposal is > pasted below and also available

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
Most of the Hadoop ecosystem uses RTC. I can't speak to other projects but on the one I chair there's no conspiracy to exclude anyone. I chair Bigtop. We recently tested a switch to CTR. It went very well and so we just wrapped up a vote to make it the permanent state of affairs. I think this is

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
g reviews. So yeah: in his case, it *is* > about control. > > Over the 17 years I've been around Apache, every single time I've seen > somebody attempt to justify something like RTC, it always goes back to > control. Always. > > -g > > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
I have to completely disagree and find your assertion vaguely offensive. > On Nov 25, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> > wrote: >> ... >> >> and inherit

Re: [VOTE] Accept S2Graph into Apache Incubation

2015-11-24 Thread Andrew Purtell
> === Issue Tracking === > > S2Graph currently uses the github issue tracking system associated > with its github repo (https://github.com/kakao/s2graph/issues). We > will migrate to the Apache JIRA > (http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/S2Graph). > > === Other Resources

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