This thread started as a discussion of Linux distros and trademarks.
Perhaps I could try to return it there?
If a distro takes a release of Apache X, compiles it with minimal changes
that adapt it to the environment, and distributes it, I believe that it's a
fine thing for them to call it simple
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
Coming in late.
A snapshot is not a release. Licenses kick in at distribution/
release.
Are you sure? When you have a public source control repo, with a
LICENSE file at the top, I would think that this counts as a legal
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Gregory Chase gch...@pivotal.io wrote:
Does ...based on Apache Hadoop require a clear dependency notation as to
which versions of Apache component releases are part of the commercial
distribution?
No, it cannot. Trademark law is not a matter of such
With the graduation of NiFi I depart, at least for now.
Thanks for all the fish.
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I've used crucible. It's horrible. And it comes from Atlassian, which
means that infra@ is predisposed against it, as their general feeling
is that the Atlassian products are very heavy.
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Writing as a member and a mentor, I think that the NiFi podling will
do fine without the 'usual' ASF member that Bertrand is asking about.
However, because I think they'll do fine, I'll sign up if it makes
people more comfy, secure in my belief that I will be a maytag
repairman.
On Fri, Jun 12,
Sean sure makes more sense than me.
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Joe Witt joe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Sean is one of those folks i referred to. Id be an easy +1
On Jun 12, 2015 9:24 AM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote:
As Sean says he's been engaged with the project while acting
I submitted the form, but I then need to replace myself with tkurc as a
mod. Can I do that sans-jira?
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Joe Witt joe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Gavin,
Appreciate your help. I am doing exactly what you asked and following
the trail of guidance.
Thanks
Joe
On
If a single legal entity has the copyright, the entity makes a grant.
If the code was built by a large community under the apache license,
there's no one to make a grant. 'The community' expressing its desire
to move to Apache is enough. This is an edge case of the principle
that we only accept
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:22 AM, James Carman
ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote:
And that covers us from a legal standpoint? Is there anything
special' about this situation that makes this appropriate?
There is nothing legal to cover here. Since all the code is AL 2.0,
legally, we are fine.
You may think that the discussion has died down, but perhaps recall
the lesson of NiFi. Or not, it might not strike you as applicable.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Steve Loughran ste...@hortonworks.com wrote:
Perhaps you might consider asking Maven questions on a Maven list? If
you peruse the Maven dev list, you'll find an ongoing conversation.
On 14 Mar 2015, at 00:13, Jochen Theodorou blackd...@gmx.org wrote:
Am
JimJag, for years, has written about the cultural implications of
DVCS, and the email here supports what he's written. So I think we
need to pay close attention.
I think that we care about both PMC and committer inventory. I, for
one, would not want to see an Apache project that restricted commit
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote:
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
At this point, I would like to open this document for soliciting as
wide a feedback as possible. I would like to especially request
attention of
An Apache project may not manage a codebase outside of Apache. Some people
who happen to be members of an Apache community can maintain code outside
of Apache, if they are very clear in distinguishing; it must not be a
product of the project. See 'Apache Extras'.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 8:46 AM,
Since the only official release is the source release, perhaps that's
the only place where we in fact need a policy?
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:39 PM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes st...@apache.org
wrote:
I think formally the
On 02/02/2015 09:53 AM, Matt Franklin wrote:
On Mon Feb 02 2015 at 8:09:43 AM Hadrian Zbarcea hzbar...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 02/01/2015 03:19 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 2:12 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org
wrote:
On Sun Feb 01 2015 at 1:05:10 AM Alex Harui aha
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 5:38 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
Hi,
I missed a few important points in this thread last week, with which I
disagree:
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
...1) Draft a template resolution. Starting in the wiki
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 2:12 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote:
On Sun Feb 01 2015 at 1:05:10 AM Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
On 1/31/15, 9:09 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Matt Franklin
m.ben.frank...@gmail.com wrote
; they are granting
a license, but we also require that code that 'moves into' Apache some
with some expression of positive intent on the part of the
author/copyright owner.
On Saturday, January 31, 2015, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 8:44 AM, James Carman
ja
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 8:44 AM, James Carman
ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote:
Is there a standard within the incubator about how we go about
getting the appropriate forms filled out when we want to incubate a
project from GitHub? GitHub fosters a sort of fly-by contribution
model (and
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Matt Franklin
m.ben.frank...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat Jan 31 2015 at 11:22:15 AM Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 10:55 AM, James Carman
ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote:
Are there guidelines for these usual
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:05 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:
+1 (binding)
I am a bit confused about the mangling of license/notice files in respect
of the source/binary releases.
Can I please ask you to make a clear distinction between source and binary
(which is not official ASF release)
+1 (binding)
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote:
Hi,
+1 (binding)
I checked (for both release artefacts):
- signatures and hashes all good
- incubating in source package name
- LICENSE and NOTICE good (but complex!)
- NOTICE has correct year
-
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
There are a few things that I would suggest for next steps:
1) Draft a template resolution. Starting in the wiki is fine, but you'll
want to involve board@ when you have your first draft done. This will also
start the
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote:
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com
wrote:
In short, the pTLP designation is a bit too
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:39 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:03 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Chris Douglas cdoug
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:03 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Chris Douglas cdoug...@apache.org wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org javascript:; wrote:
How is that different from pruning the
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote:
On 20.01.2015 17:16, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
I agree with Bertrand. Note whoever commits the patch is doing so under
their ICLA.
Really? That can't be right: one can't become the author of a change
(and
I'm in the odd situation of not particularly wanting to argue in favor
of the proposal I wrote, yet finding it hard to resist the provocation
of messages that appear, to me, to misunderstand it. So I'll restrict
myself to the following, and I won't reply to any further dispute.
Anyone else is
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes st...@apache.org wrote:
Relating to IncubatorV2 and pTLP proposals - on Apache Commons I seem
to have spurred a discussion about making sub-mailing lists (And thus
forming sub-communities) - but keep the formalities on the general
list.
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote:
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote:
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org
wrote:
I think a better analogy would be US Culture. Yes it is as nebulous
as
Does it help anything to look at this, again, as failure modes?
One failure mode is a project that emerges from the incubator showing,
well, gross signs that it 'doesn't get it.'
Another failure mode is that a group of people who really do get it, at the
level of the broad principles, get into
The temperature of this might be reduced by replacing, 'no one knows what
the Apache Way is' with 'a lot of us have trouble translate it into
practical decisions in a repeatable fashion.' Or not.
As reported here, we have performed multiple experiments in which multiple
members, directors, and
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
WTF? There have been presentations about the apache way at every ApacheCon
for about 15 years (twice in most years). I personally give 5-10 such
presentations a year (sometimes public sometimes
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
Chip is correct. The tools we use in board meetings make it easy for us to
see how many PMC members in a TLP resolution are members. If there are not
enough we will sometimes put the project on an
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
To be clear my email was not targeted at Marvin. We all know how hard
Marvin has worked to create the clear policy documents I talk about here. I
hope Marvin knows me well enough to recognize my
For your reading and wrangling pleasure, I offer:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorV2.
The goal of this exercise is to turn the idea of the pTLP into a
practical alternative. By 'practical', I mean: 'based on the
constraints as I see them'; the board and comdev are not going to find
a
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:38 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org
wrote:
On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:20 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
For your reading and wrangling pleasure, I offer:
https
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
wrote:
...This scheme locates
that responsibility in the renamed committee, which serves the board
by supervising the pTLPs. They aren't
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
On Jan 5, 2015, at 7:04 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul
Back in 2013, I suggested asking the Champion to accept a very clear
level of reporting responsibility: to write a sentence or two _every
month_ or find someone else to do it. That's one person whom I wanted
to ask to sign up, for the duration of an incubation, to pay enough
attention to be able
Marvin,
I did go away. I came back to help with a podling, and fell into a
conversation started by discontented board members. You might push
back on the board, formally, and challenge them to either officially
be discontented or leave the iPMC alone. Me, I have an idea for a
proposal that might
, and they will continue to
help those new projects - along with the board - along with everyone
else.
[...snip...]
===
From: Benson Margulies
[...snip...]
Here is where the 'Mentors in the Project' (whether directly reporting
to the board or not) leaps up and looks like a great idea to me
I'd like to raise a topic directly related to the succession. To
start, three cheers for Roman for all his hard work!
For all other projects in the Foundation, we say, 'The chair is just a
clerk who facilitates communications with the board.' Here at the
IPMC, we expect the chair to be moderator
Every PMC member of a running PMC has a responsibility to keep an eye
out for crazy commits. Once this is reflected in the doc, it's good
practice for PPMC members.
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 12:27 PM, John D. Ament
I plan to:
1. Ask the nifi community if they want to be experimental subjects. Can't
expect IRB approval without it.
2. Write a proposal for the board to read. There are a number of details to
worry over. Any suggestions about where to put it? There in no board wiki.
Is there?
3. Submit a board
++
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From: Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
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Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 at 11:12 AM
To: general@incubator apache. org general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Running
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
+1 to everything Ross said below and I monitored that experiment
as well but was unaware of the 3 incidents, etc.
As for pTLPs and shifting mentorship, etc., I trust Ross’s judgement
but think we
I'd like to look at this through a lens of failure analysis. How do
podlings fail? I see two main patterns.
1. Failure to build a community. These are the podlings that we find
adrift in space with the lights on but no one home on the mailing
list.
2. Failure to build an _Apache_ community.
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
Please note the change of subject.
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 6:28 AM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:
On 12/19/2014 02:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote:
What it would do however if we simply did away with the
Back when I was trying to be the chair of this operation, we (ChrisM
I others) had a lovely old food fight about Chris M's proposal. It
seems to me that the fundamental situation as I saw it remains: this
is a proposal to the board to dissolve the IPMC and replace it with
something else. And
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote:
Are we top posting now?
My comments below Ross’
On 19 Dec 2014, at 16:33, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
As a participant, I have two concerns about a player-mentor requirement.
1.
Apache PMCs, including the incubator PMC, operate by consensus except
in a very small number of enumerated exceptional cases. So, the vote,
I think, is a test of consensus. -1 votes block consensus until
discussed to 0. There's no minimum number of +1 votes.
I am always prepared to be corrected.
).
John
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Benson Margulies
bimargul...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:13 PM, John D. Ament
johndam...@apache.org
wrote:
https://infra.apache.org/officers/webreq
I tried:
Missing
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:13 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote:
https://infra.apache.org/officers/webreq
I tried:
Missing https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tamaya/site/index.html
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On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:35 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote:
Group 2 is for groups podlings that started in months such as
November. First report would be December.
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
I suspect that only Roman and other VPs can do this.
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html seems to be claiming
the contrary.
Regards,
Alan
On Nov 25, 2014, at 10:23 AM, John D. Ament
Oh, that was not my smartest moment. Should I change the xml file to
move out a month? I don't think we've got something worth reporting.
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:14 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
wrote
Starting with a December report makes sense. So, group changes too.
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:27 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote:
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
wrote:
Oh, that was not my smartest moment. Should I change the xml file
The vote for NiFi incubation has passed. I will go start turning cranks.
Nonbinding +1:
Sean Busaby
Brock Noland
Ryan Blue
Joey Echeverria
Binding +1:
Tim Williams
Chris Mattmann
Suresh Srinivas
Chris Douglas
John D Ament
Benson Margulies
Jake Farrell
Andrew Purtell
Bertrand Delacretaz
Following http://incubator.apache.org/guides/website.html, I ran 'ant' (and
also build.sh) after adding nifi to podlings.xml and added the nifi.xml
fille. It didn't produce any changed files to commit.
Is the guide behind? Am I confused?
One message here to make progress in public before we have NiFi mailing lists:
I've added nifi to podlings.xml and I've created nifi.xml.
I've opened INFRA-8706 for the mailing lists.
I plan to write one other JIRA for a git repo; after that, we need
discussion on the list to be sure of what
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 6:24 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
On Nov 24, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
Following http://incubator.apache.org/guides/website.html, I ran
I've advised Joe to 'asterix' the would-be mentors who are not iPMC yet, so
that he can proceed to a vote on the base of the ones who are sooner rather
than later, and the stragglers can be formally added to the metadata once
they are on the iPMC.
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NiFiProposal has elicited a cheerful and
positive conversation, so I offer this vote.
Vote will be open for the usual 72 hours ...
Here is my [+1]
, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NiFiProposal has elicited a cheerful
and
positive conversation, so I offer this vote.
Vote will be open for the usual 72 hours ...
Here is my [+1]
through INFRA. We request
sponsor Benson Margulies (bimargulies) to assist with creating the
INFRA ticket for this.
=== Issue Tracking ===
JIRA Ni``Fi (NIFI)
=== Initial Committers ===
* Brandon De``Vries brandon.devries at gmail dot com, CLA confirmed
* Jason Carey jcarey03 at gmail dot com
requests use of Git for source control
(git://git.apache.org/nifi.git). We request a writeable Git repo for
NiFi with mirroring to be setup to Github through INFRA. We request
sponsor Benson Margulies (bimargulies) to assist with creating the
INFRA ticket for this.
=== Issue Tracking
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#initial-provenance
has some svn specific commentary. If an incoming podling has a git
repo, can it just be pushed into place as the starting point?
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Everyone who has ever mentored anything is a member of this PMC,
except for those who have actually chosen to depart.
In addition, we have PMC members who specialize in things like NOTICE
files, but don't choose to mentor individual projects.
In general, there is a mentor shortage. If you have a
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 2:07 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:
On 24 August 2014 19:54, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
On Aug 24, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com
wrote:
I am not so sure if its worth while with the board report.
What's good for the
If the student provides it as a patch, then you are asking the usual
question about the quantity of code. There is no hard and fast rule,
but unless it's very large, the AL is very clear; patches sent to
mailing lists or attached to issue tracking systems or any of that are
covered by the AL. If
If you can work out a plan to do this directly in Hadoop, there's no
need for the incubator. You just build and and contribute it in
cahoots with them, and earn commit over there as you go.
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Alejandro Abdelnur t...@cloudera.com wrote:
Mmmh, if i recall correctly
Therefore, when we say that incubating releases can have small IP loose
ends, we mean:
* This is an official release, created by an act of the Foundation.
* It is known to violate policy.
* It could be removed, but no one has done so yet.
I'm comfortable with relying on
My understanding is that incubating releases can have small IP loose
ends, but not that they can proceed before the main clearance of an
initial code donation.
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Bernd Fondermann
Joining a PMC does not meaning being handed even one of the keys to
the launch console for a nuclear missile. Joining a PMC means
accepting responsibility for the supervision of a project. We vote to
add someone to a PMC when they have shown the necessary commitment
and, well, common sense. Part
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013, at 01:24 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
Joining a PMC does not meaning being handed even one of the keys to
the launch console for a nuclear missile. Joining a PMC means
accepting responsibility for the supervision of a project. We vote to
add someone to a PMC when they have
A summarized agreement with this thread:
The bottom line, I think, is that _someone_ has to provide the
supervision that the board delegates to a PMC.
The virtue of the 'demolish the incubator' proposal is that it makes
that point absolutely clear. If there were no incubator, the board
would
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Joseph Schaefer
joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Unlikely to get at least Roy’s approval because release
votes are expected to be a decision of the full committee,
not any one member of it.
+1: Much as some people here as in favor of dismantlement, and others
I think that all of this might boil down to the observation, way back
in this thread, that there are different patterns of incoming
projects.
Some incoming podlings are very small groups of people. If they are
paying attention, they know that attracting new people will be their
biggest problem.
-1 binding. I don't see the standard disclaimer in any of the possible
locations.
In Maven, the standard disclaimer as a remote resource via
org.apache:apache-incubator-disclaimer-resource-bundle.
The text looks like:
#if(${projectName})${projectName}#else${project.name}#end is an effort
is actually there,
* this is a milestone release which should be supplanted by another release
in a month or two
and
* this will be fixed
Would you reconsider?
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Benson Margulies
bimargul...@gmail.comwrote:
-1 binding. I don't see the standard
A simple alternative is 'expectation'. However, I have no problem with
using it the way Joe wrote it.
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:
I did read the topmatter, but I still felt it was a concern. It's not
just about mentors, that was just one
A paradox:
The VP is not supposed to exercise authority in normal circumstances.
Projects are supposed to have mentors that advocate for them. If a
project comes 'to the ombudsman', whether that's the VP or not, what
can this person do? All they can do is bring the matter to the
community. If
Incubator community,
I have tendered my resignation as VP, Incubator. The PMC has recommend
Marvin Humphrey as my successor in a motion submitted to the
Foundation board for consideration at the meeting next week.
--benson
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I'm off by a week. No buttoning until next week.
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll button it up in the middle of tomorrow some time.
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I think that the RM _must_ have a key, that the key must be part of a
KEYS file in svn/git, and that it _should_ be uploaded into their
Apache account, and it is more better if it is signed into the GWOT
(global web of trust).
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A straw poll: how many people on this PMC scrutinized any of the
recent three IP clearance transactions?
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If you look at proposals and email, you will notice that several
people who disagree on many things agree that this group has trouble
making decisions by consensus, due to size, diversity, and perhaps
sheer orneriness.
One possibility is to focus on the ideas in Bertrand's document that
address
Also please remember that every release is supposed to go into the
next month's board report.
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
Sebb you are awesome and correct.
But I have to say, I think that when we make suggestions to podlings, we
should make it
I'm not going to ask the May board meeting anything. There's no
consensus of this community on 'probationary projects', and, more to
the point, there are a host of details required to make that a viable
proposal and no one has filled them in. As I wrote in the report, I
plan to have a discussion
Violating my 24 hour rule just this one, and worse yet to repeat myself:
+1 Joe, Ross, etc.
I rather regret mentioning the direct launch alternative in my most
recent email. We have some weakness in _mentoring_, and more weakness
in _supervising_ (or at least in documenting supervision). We have
If you think it's clear in either direction, call a VOTE. I think that's
the only demonstrable way to suggest what's clear and what's not.
Please see several emails from Greg and others on the board@ list
recently pointing out the inappropriateness of overuse of votes.
If even *one* person
Chris,
As I feel like I've explained 100 times, all of the following are true:
1) I disagree with your proposal
2) I agree with much of your analyses of problems with the IPMC
3) I I trying to do a job of consensus moderation as best I understand
how, being fair to you and to all the involuntary
I wrote some text at the front. I plan to fill in things like PMC
members coming and going tomorrow morning, and commit to svn.
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So, here we have:
Alan's idea of removing champions and shepherds and demanding mentor
recommitment, with the 'teeth' of putting podlings on ice if they
can't muster an adequate mentor squad.
My idea of asking champions to step up to some specific supervision
responsibility, thus allowing some
, at 9:21 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
I wrote some text at the front. I plan to fill in things like PMC
members coming and going tomorrow morning, and commit to svn.
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