Judgement call depending on what you might
consider a reasonable size for a minor fix
versus an independent work (e.g. new module).
The larger the patch the more likely you should
consider having the author file some paperwork with
Apache to cover the contribution.
HTH
On Feb 17, 2014, at 7:20
It means that unless Nathan Marz and an Yahoo! employee
added those items to the NOTICE, you can remove them. But
if they did, than either Nathan Marz or a Y! employee should
be asked to.
In terms of being a release blocker, I’d say not. If you fix
this in HEAD that should be sufficient to
with the vote without having to start over at
this point?
Thanks again for your input.
- Taylor
On Feb 15, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
It means that unless Nathan Marz and an Yahoo! employee
added those items to the NOTICE, you can remove them
The copyright date is not a showstopper.
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On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Dave Brondsema d...@brondsema.net wrote:
Doh. I've fixed that in git just now. If its a blocker for this release, I
can
go ahead and do new one, but obviously it'd be easier to continue with this
Chris no offense but all we can do is vote on what you put in front of us. As
soon as you realized that that document was a mess the vote should have been
cancelled. Right now you have no clear picture of what each vote *means*
because the thing we are supposed to be approving is in flux.
Unfortunately we had to restore dist.apache.org
from offsite backups and a few commits to the incubator
tree were lost as a result. Projects are encouraged
to check out their dist trees and ensure that the
latest content is available via dist.apache.org and
releases at
e-mails to see what occurred
since, and recover any missing files from archive.a.o (presumably)
On 26 January 2014 23:17, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Unfortunately we had to restore dist.apache.org
from offsite backups and a few commits to the incubator
tree were lost
No policy says anything about binaries in svn, but if you can't have them in
your source package it probably doesn't make much sense to keep them in svn.
But really that part is up to the project not the IPMC.
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On Dec 18, 2013, at 10:45 PM, Greg Trasuk
+1
On Dec 13, 2013, at 11:31 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote:
So it begins =)
+1
Thanks for leading the effort, Marvin
- Henry
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Marvin Humphrey
mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
Greetings,
As the next step in our ongoing efforts to
back to the Incubator.
...ant
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Joseph Schaefer
joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Then lets disambiguate by not referring to the
“IP Stewards” as being the PPMC. Seems simple
enough.
On Nov 19, 2013, at 4:34 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote
Can I just ask how many people have we encountered who upon
being offered IPMC membership turned it down with grounds along
these lines? Why do we design policy about the fringes and not
the happy, average, well-adjusted individuals we meet daily here
who would be honored to help out and act
Oh snap Daniel nice job with that. I didn’t
even notice that stanza in the config file
before!
On Nov 20, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote:
Joseph Schaefer wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 23:18:11 -0500:
On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae
, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Joseph Schaefer
joe_schae...@yahoo.comwrote:
I don’t see how the situation is any worse
than it is now, where no one on the project
currently has a binding vote on a release.
Going from that to “a few” may seem unfair,
but we have to start somewhere and we need
to keep
On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Jordan Zimmerman randg...@apache.org wrote:
Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have
curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org?
You need to create an .htaccess file at the top-level of your tree with the
following contents
On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Jordan Zimmerman randg...@apache.org wrote:
Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have
curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org?
You need
No there’s a difference. Before he was asking what
infra was going to do to magically make this happen.
That request was denied.
Now we have a better question: what can he do himself
to make this happen? Here there are some answers to
questions that should be addressed in the incubator docs
Already resolved. A Forbidden response instead
of a failed auth request almost always implies
committing using http.
On Nov 20, 2013, at 12:28 AM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:
Jordan Zimmerman wrote:
When I tried to commit the change, I get:
svn: E175013: Commit failed
I don’t see how the situation is any worse
than it is now, where no one on the project
currently has a binding vote on a release.
Going from that to “a few” may seem unfair,
but we have to start somewhere and we need
to keep in mind that this is partly a training
exercise, where we need to see
Well I can assure you it’s NOT compulsory at Apache ;-).
On Nov 10, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote:
Hi,
Every American that has voted for a public office
knows that winning the majority has nothing to do
with the total population of potential voters.
Where
Unlikely to get at least Roy’s approval because release
votes are expected to be a decision of the full committee,
not any one member of it.
On Nov 10, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
On Nov 10, 2013, at 1:04 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
How about
to help us manage our workload.
Talk is cheap in a doocracy, we need an action
plan and leadership not more argumentation passing
itself off as helpful suggestions.
On Nov 10, 2013, at 1:25 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Joseph Schaefer
joe_schae
Every American that has voted for a public office
knows that winning the majority has nothing to do
with the total population of potential voters. Let’s
not try to rationalize geekdom’s love affair with
special purpose terminology- my own pet peeve is
what the java world did to the word
The reason we are reduced to guesswork
and posturing about how to fix what ails
us is because we haven’t a clue what the
core problems with incubation are. All we
have are a rash of symptoms: inadequate
release voting oversight, inadequate podling
community development, etc. It sure would’ve
No offense Ross but give me a break. While I’m
glad to see my initial ideas gain so much traction
in the incubator now that people no longer remember
where they come from, and even are willing to falsely
claim credit for them, but this whole idea of populating
the IPMC with ordinary podling
IMO none of the new glossary entries are worth doing.
Procedural votes are votes about bylaws and other rules
which you will apply to self-govern, so they deserve
an appropriate treatment. Discouraged from voting is
perhaps too harsh a sentiment, what we want those people to
know is their opinion
, when
we're talking about the httpd project.
On Oct 4, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 3, 2013 12:52 PM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
...
e.g. how to vote properly
on personnel issues, and that should entirely suffice. Even Greg
doesn't seem to know
Good Lord man all you need to add is a one-sentence
statement that personnel votes are consensus votes not
procedural (simple majority) votes.
On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
On 10/3/13 6:23 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 3,
PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
On 10/3/13 8:48 AM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Good Lord man all you need to add is a one-sentence
statement that personnel votes are consensus votes not
procedural (simple majority) votes.
Hmm. Maybe I'm reaching too far, but my
Honestly the point that keeps getting missed here is
that everything we do at Apache proceeds at a notoriously
slow pace so people can adjust accordingly. All things
considered, would it be better if Sanjiva and colleagues
ASKED to be included in the proposal instead of just adding
themselves in
Agreed. Convenience binaries have always been distributed on our mirrors.
Only the corresponding source tarball requires a vote.
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On Sep 19, 2013, at 2:40 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Marvin Humphrey
Jim added support for premonth notices several months ago.
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On Aug 8, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com
wrote:
I run the script by hand because it requires a password
I run the script by hand because it requires a password for the svn checkouts.
If you need it to run a full week prior to the podling reports due date, just
ask.
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On Aug 2, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
Greets,
Marvin sent out report
Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Joseph Schaefer
joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
This argument reminds me of the current debate in Congress about whether or
not military sex offense reporting should remain within the chain of
command. Proponents argue
Agreed on the undesirability of making survey participation mandatory. On the
wiki page in question I framed it as a right that surveys are available fwiw.
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On Jun 15, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
I'm not keen on this one. I don't like
This is a suggestion that has come up in the past, and the typical
counter-argument is that this is something the chair needs to provide
themselves.
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On Jun 15, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
Sent from a mobile device, please excuse
++
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Date: Saturday, June 15, 2013 10:52 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator
Yes infra can setup a manual redirect once the tree is gone from the repo.
Just ping me when it's time.
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On Jun 1, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
On 29/05/2013 Daniel Shahaf wrote:
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 09:40:19PM +0200, Andrea Pescetti
What we really need now is a few hundred more emails on this exciting subject,
just like every other year! At the end we can all agree to disagree and go
away sad that nothing ever gets done around here, just like every other year we
have this interesting debate!
Party on I say.
Sent from my
Frankly I find the notion that the board will do a better job of MENTORING
these projects than the IPMC to be batshit insane, but that's just me.
We need manpower, and there is plenty of that available amongst the competent
volunteers who actively participate in these projects. Let's just do
is suboptimal.
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On May 11, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
On May 11, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Frankly I find the notion that the board will do a better job of MENTORING
these projects than the IPMC to be batshit
You go girl! Spot on.
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On May 8, 2013, at 12:54 AM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
On May 7, 2013, at 4:03 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org
wrote:
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
...Let's get rid of
Waah. Look this just DEFINES consensus as 75% instead
of the old 100%. It doesn't throw consensus out the window.
Please stop with all of these exaggerations and try to
self-moderate- half of the volume in these debates is all
you talking to yourself.
On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:18 AM, ant elder
No more so than they already had.
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On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:56 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
No what it means Joe is that who chooses the wording of the vote gets
a lot of control the outcome.
...ant
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae
This whole exercise is pointless. Just drop the notion of vetoes for all IPMC
votes and carry on as before.
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On Mar 27, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
On Sat, Mar
In the custom extension we use there is code that lets you select a CSS
classname by adding {.classname} to the end of the text area.
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On Mar 5, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Emmanouil Batsis (Manos) ma...@abiss.gr wrote:
IF I understand you correctly you might be able to simply
@Joseph: that looks interesting too, could you provide a link to that
extension?
thx a lot for the tips pointers
cheers,
juan pablo
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.comwrote:
In the custom extension we use there is code that lets you select a CSS
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