Waah. Look this just DEFINES consensus as 75% instead of the old 100%. It doesn't throw consensus out the window. Please stop with all of these exaggerations and try to self-moderate- half of the volume in these debates is all you talking to yourself.
On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:18 AM, ant elder <ant.el...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Benson Margulies > <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote: >> It appears to me that we have a consensus here on using a majority system >> with a 3/4 supermajority. I'd like to establish the existence of this >> consensus with a minimum of fuss, and begin to stop wasting everyone's >> time. Our goal here is to achieve consensus, not to hold votes. So, I'm >> going to treat this as a lazy consensus issues. I'm going to watch this >> thread for an additional 72 hours. If anyone objects to this consensus, >> send along a brief summary of your objection with a -1. If there are, in >> fact, substantive objections, I'll organize a separate vote process to >> resolve this. Please do not debate objections here, we'll do that later if >> we have to. Everyone's had a fair opportunity to state their opinion, so >> the only thing we're doing now is ensuring that no one is harboring a >> serious objection that I have somehow overlooked. Acquiescing in this >> process does not prejudice the discussion of changing the PMC. >> > > I'd prefer we stick with consensus but not enough to vote against this. > > However as no one has mentioned this I do think its worth pointing out > that when using supermajority instead of consensus or simple majority > then the phrasing of the vote becomes important. > > Eg. Say 16 people participate in a vote then: > "Throw the guy out" needs 5 -1s to stop it happening > "Let the guy stay" needs 12 +1s to make it happen. > > ...ant > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
