This whole exercise is pointless. Just drop the notion of vetoes for all IPMC votes and carry on as before. Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 27, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Niall Pemberton <niall.pember...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <r...@apache.org> wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> One alternative to going for full-on majority voting is to recognize that a >>> larger group is much more likely to have "noisy vetoes" by requiring that >>> successful votes have n positive votes and m negative votes subject to some >>> condition on n and m. Majority requires n > m, strict Apache consensus >>> requires n >= 3 and m == 0. It is easy to imagine other conditions such as >>> n >= 4 and m <= 2 which still have some of the flavor of consensus in that >>> a minority can block a decision, but allow forward progress even with >>> constant naysayers or occasional random vetoes. >> >> Personally, I'd suggest keeping these options in our backpocket >> and turning back to considering them in case a simple majority >> proposal runs into an opposition somehow. At this point, I'd rather >> try a simple solution first. > > I was in favour of simple majority - but a vote passing with, for > example 9+1 and 8-1 is as bad IMO as a vote failing because of alot of > +1 and only one -1. > > So I've changed my mind on this - I think it should be 3/4 majority. > This avoids a small minority stopping something, but also doesn't > completely throw out consensus. > > Niall > >> Thanks, >> Roman. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
