Re: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

2002-01-08 Thread Peter Donald
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 03:03, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: In this email, all I hear you doing is pointing fingers. It has nothing to do with that. I keep hearing you and other people say jakarta is broken. However as far as I can tell it is just talk whenever someone steps on your toes. You don't

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

2002-01-08 Thread Peter Donald
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:29, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I also will say I haven't seen community crosstalk between XML and Jakarta, from the point of view as communities. I know there are individuals who contribute greatly to both communities, and many of us here in Jakarta depend on XML

Re: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

2002-01-08 Thread Peter Donald
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 12:36, Ceki Gülcü wrote: The JBoss guys are very smart. Scott Stark is extremely high caliber. Mark is no idiot either. Jboss is successful because it is so fucking good. From where I stand, the other appservers are just copying JBoss. Where do you think the MBean

Re: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

2002-01-08 Thread Peter Donald
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 01:40, Sam Ruby wrote: Peter Donald wrote: So are you proposing to become a log4j committer? Would there be a point to that? It depends on whether and how you want to contribute. There still is a lot of work to do. Ceki And theres the rub. These one

Re: crushed

2002-01-08 Thread Sam Ruby
Jon Scott Stevens wrote: A good one that Sam worked on resolving fairly successfully is the one about Gump. Another issue which I see as a failure is the failure of projects to communicate with each other. Thanks for the kind words. If you take a moment and read the first paragraph of text

RE: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

2002-01-08 Thread Sam Ruby
Paulo Gaspar wrote: I do what I can at the pace I am able. Which is quite impressive. Especially considering that you probably have other duties and a live. Thanks. And I do have both. http://www.activestate.com/Corporate/People/Tech_Board.html#sam http://www.zend.com/zend/hof/sam.php -

Not able to put classes in the class path

2002-01-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have installed , tomcat 4.0.1, and i have added an context in the webapps.. but when i m trying to use the class files it is not picking up.., saying nopt found... i have put the class files in web-inf/classes pls help me... what to do... vikas

Re: Not able to put classes in the class path

2002-01-08 Thread Peter Donald
maybe you would be better served asking on the Tomcat-user mailing list On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 21:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed , tomcat 4.0.1, and i have added an context in the webapps.. but when i m trying to use the class files it is not picking up.., saying nopt found...

RE: crushed

2002-01-08 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Look at TC3 vs TC4 - I subscribed about a year ago to their dev list and the relationships between the two groups were less than good and a few people were trying to make the division even greater .. apparently now all is good over there. Keep in mind (maybe not Peter but other readers

RE: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

2002-01-08 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Turbine and Avalon serve very distinct purposes, uses and users. They just have a load of components trying to do the same thing. Those could be shared and unified by placing them in the commons. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Peter Donald [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Jakarta code search engine? (Re: crushed)

2002-01-08 Thread Paulo Gaspar
I was not demanding karma, just stating what I thought were obstacles. Now I have some clues and it looks like I can help even without karma. =:o) Have fun, Paulo -Original Message- From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:54 AM Paulo Gaspar

Re: Avalon, Commons, once again (Re: Commons Validator Packaging/Content)

2002-01-08 Thread Sam Ruby
Ted Husted wrote: As it stands, both are simply subprojects, and so a Commons committer is a Commons committer. Ditto for Taglibs. It is also fair to point out that an Avalon committer is a committer to the framework itself as well as to testlet, logkit, phoenix, cornerstone, excalibur, and

FW: email issues..

2002-01-08 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
Someone want to reply to this person directly? -jon -- Forwarded Message From: Eitan Suez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 08:43:09 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: email issues.. hi, i suspect that a recent attempt to block out spam on my mail server might have

Re: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

2002-01-08 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 1/8/02 3:13 AM, Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so would collaboration on a web framework Pete This happened a long time ago (May 2000) on the PMC list: When Craig originally proposed Struts, I -1'd it. He assured me that he would be willing to collaborate together on Turbine and

RE: Jakarta code search engine? (Re: crushed)

2002-01-08 Thread Paulo Gaspar
My guess then is that you have not read down the page far enough then. No demands required. Wrong guess. =;o) I am noisy but not a committer in any Apache projects. Just posted a few patches on a couple of projects. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Sam Ruby

Volunteer Wanted

2002-01-08 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
I want to remove my name from this page: http://www.apache.org/foundation/preFAQ.html I nominate Paulo to put his name there instead so that he can start contributing more than just being a pain in my ass. Is that cool? -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: Volunteer Wanted

2002-01-08 Thread Ted Husted
I'd say it should be the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and if anyone, including Paulo, want to help out with the Webmaster emails, that would be great. Jon Scott Stevens wrote: I want to remove my name from this page: http://www.apache.org/foundation/preFAQ.html I nominate Paulo to put his

Re: Volunteer Wanted

2002-01-08 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 1/8/02 11:57 AM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say it should be the [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good idea. Done. and if anyone, including Paulo, want to help out with the Webmaster emails, that would be great. Maybe you will get lucky and get a volunteer. -jon -- To unsubscribe,

Re: Volunteer Wanted

2002-01-08 Thread Ceki Gülcü
First, the page is outdated, Java Apache is not Jakarta. Second, acting as a receptionist at desk with a million visitors a day is not what I call a dream job. The task should left to one person but shared on a rotational basis. I am willing to be the first and take over for *one* month. Any

Re: Volunteer Wanted

2002-01-08 Thread Ted Husted
The Webmaster box is a group account, and its easy to share. Just hit reply-all so the other webmasters know you replied. Peir used to help out, but he's off now. Another committer helps out now and again, but its mostly just me now. Which is fine, but I thought I would float the offer since it

RE: Volunteer Wanted

2002-01-08 Thread Marc Saegesser
I was actually thinking along those same lines. Tomcat 3.2.x is history and I haven't found another place to stick my fingers into the code, yet, so I wouldn't mind helping out a little bit with this. BUT, I have NO desire to hold such a position indefintely. I like the idea of a rotation.

RE: Volunteer Wanted

2002-01-08 Thread Paulo Gaspar
LOL I am willing to help but I will not stop being a pain in your ass when I find it necessary. Please remember that I do not systematicaly disagree with you. I just disagree when I can not agree. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Volunteer Wanted

2002-01-08 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Ok Ted, At the moment I do not have enough time to assume the responsibility for the whole thing but I am willing to help. (I also do not have the time for flaming days like yesterday.) One more making some of the work must be of some help. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message-

Re: Volunteer Wanted

2002-01-08 Thread Ted Husted
apmail, Could you please add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the list of people receiving [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail Thanks! -- Ted husted ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Paulo Gaspar wrote: Ok Ted, At the moment I do not have enough time to assume the responsibility for the whole thing but I am willing to

Re: Volunteer Wanted

2002-01-08 Thread Sam Ruby
Ted Husted wrote: Could you please add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the list of people receiving [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail Done. - Sam Ruby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: email issues..

2002-01-08 Thread Scott Sanders
I did reply to him. I told him that no License issues would prevent it, but to just let people know that he was doing it. Scott Sanders -Original Message- From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

RE: Code conventions

2002-01-08 Thread Tim Vernum
It's only two little lines extra to include the {}'s, Yeah, but those two lines will make my code run slower. Don't you know? The less space your source code takes, the less space your class file will take. And smaller classes run faster. It must be true - 90% of people I've worked with

RE: Code conventions

2002-01-08 Thread Ylan Segal
-Original Message- From: Tim Vernum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 5:12 PM To: 'Jakarta General List' Subject: RE: Code conventions It's only two little lines extra to include the {}'s, Yeah, but those two lines will make my code run slower.

I'm tired of noise...

2002-01-08 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
... so I go back to action. When Forrest powers xml.apache.org, you'll know about it. [I'll remain subscribed here, but don't expect much participation from me: I'd rather spend my time doing something more useful than crying about why this project isn't the project I dream about] Take care.

License change for new year ?

2002-01-08 Thread Vincent Massol
I have 2 questions : 1/ Now that we are in 2002, do we need to change the text in all our license files to be : Copyright (c) 1999-2002 The Apache Software Foundation instead of Copyright (c) 1999-2001 The Apache Software Foundation ? 2/ Some license files only have Copyright (c) 1999 The

Avalon, Commons, once again (Re: Commons Validator Packaging/Content)

2002-01-08 Thread Jeff Turner
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 09:29:18PM +1100, Peter Donald wrote: ... To drive this point home, the subject line of this thread identifies exactly one such set of duplication - between Turbine and Struts. My nagging lead Berin to propose moving the Avalon collections code into commons, to

Re: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

2002-01-08 Thread Jeff Turner
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 10:48:42AM -, Danny Angus wrote: Jon wrote: My opinion is that there are to many peers in the process and that is what is breaking Jakarta. This wasn't a problem until now. We are starting to explode under our own ever growing weight. I've been involved in

Re: Code conventions

2002-01-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/8/02 8:53 AM, Endre Stølsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: | My question is what are the consequences to forcing me to do #2 when #1 is | perfectly acceptable throughout the professional world? That syntax is so bleedin' ugly that I would

Re: Code conventions

2002-01-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/8/02 6:12 PM, Tim Vernum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's only two little lines extra to include the {}'s, Yeah, but those two lines will make my code run slower. Don't you know? The less space your source code takes, the less space your class file will take. And smaller classes

Re: Code conventions

2002-01-08 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
It's only two little lines extra to include the {}'s, Yeah, but those two lines will make my code run slower. Don't you know? The less space your source code takes, the less space your class file will take. And smaller classes run faster. It must be true - 90% of people I've worked