Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-09 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 03:03:37PM -0700, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: Interestingly enough, I did write a quick little framework that works very similar to Turbine and has the same concept of users/roles/permissions. =) Well, if you want an MVC framework, someone did a port of Maverick to PHP:

re[2]: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-09 Thread Rich Persaud
Berin wrote: | Even when Quick and Dirty takes longer. I tried to convince my boss that | a certain customization required so many fundamental changes that it would | be quicker and easier to develop/maintain if we did it right. He told me | that he would never be able to convince the

Re: re[2]: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-09 Thread Bill Barker
- Original Message - From: Rich Persaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:26 PM Subject: re[2]: Differences between Structs and Turbine ??? New and improved pain may promise an average POI (Pain-on-Investment) that is 50%

Re: Struts and Tomcat 4.0

2002-10-09 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Cool! I'm impressed! I'll have to check that out. On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 20:12, Daniel Rall wrote: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Even if it ties me to an Apache-proprietary template language, trading that for something less disgusting than JSP seems preferable. Note that

Re: re[2]: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-09 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I knew that was coming. -dysfunctional Andy On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 03:36, Bill Barker wrote: - Original Message - From: Rich Persaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:26 PM Subject: re[2]: Differences between Structs

Bug handling survey - Tree based models

2002-10-09 Thread Gunes Koru
Hello Jakarta contributors, I am conducting a survey about the way bugs are handled in open source software projects. The survey includes questions that can be answered by developers,testers, bug fixers, project managers, and owners of defect databases. It is only and only for research purposes

Re: Bug handling survey - Tree based models

2002-10-09 Thread Brian Ewins
The big image in Gunes' description is wrongly linked to: file:///home/gkoru/tbdm1.jpg you can find it at: http://engr.smu.edu/~gkoru/surveys/tbdm1.jpg Gunes Koru wrote: Hello Jakarta contributors, I am conducting a survey about the way bugs are handled in open source software projects. The

Re: Bug handling survey - Tree based models

2002-10-09 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I answered the first two or three of these that was sent to me (student studies)... But they seem to be blooming rapidly. One could hypothesize through the use of some kind of mathematical model that if one continues to participate they will increase exponentially and eventually one will

RE: re[2]: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-09 Thread Nick Chalko
-Original Message- From: Rich Persaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:26 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: re[2]: Differences between Structs and Turbine ??? Preferred pain is a known pain with an experience-based cap. New and improved pain may

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-09 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2002/10/9 10:40 AM, Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mod_python is looking more and more attractive to me all the time, a clever balance between the two. Not really. This is about as good as plain servlets. http://www.modpython.org/live/mod_python-2.7.8/doc-html/tut-pub.html Notice

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-09 Thread James Taylor
On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 14:05, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 2002/10/9 10:40 AM, Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mod_python is looking more and more attractive to me all the time, a clever balance between the two. Not really. This is about as good as plain servlets.

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 9/10/02 3:47, Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even when Quick and Dirty takes longer. I tried to convince my boss that a certain customization required so many fundamental changes that it would be quicker and easier to develop/maintain if we did it right. He told me that he

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 8/10/02 23:59, Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Java is not the fastest technology to develop in, however, it produces the best code for the long term. PHP is the fastest technology to develop in, however, it produces the crappiest code for the long term. The problem is when

Re: Struts and Tomcat 4.0

2002-10-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
I believe they also tried to make a JSR out of it, but got shot down somewhere in the middle... :-( Pier On 9/10/02 13:38, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool! I'm impressed! I'll have to check that out. On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 20:12, Daniel Rall wrote: Andrew C. Oliver

Re: Struts and Tomcat 4.0

2002-10-09 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
What do you expect from idiots who think naming api's JAX[letter] is a good idea? (JAXM/JAXP/JAXB/JAXC/etc... I'm sorry but that is just really really stupid sick and befuddled! BAD BAD BADAnd this is coming from me! The sick abbreviation kingpin himself!) -Andy On Wed, 2002-10-09 at

Re: Struts and Tomcat 4.0

2002-10-09 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2002/10/9 4:20 PM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe they also tried to make a JSR out of it, but got shot down somewhere in the middle... :-( Pier Geir and I approached the JCP about creating a JSR for a Java Template Language (see enclosed) and even had a number

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-09 Thread dion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/10/2002 03:40:35 AM: Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Java is not the fastest technology to develop in, however, it produces the best code for the long term. PHP is the fastest technology to develop in, however, it produces the crappiest

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-09 Thread Steve Downey
On Wednesday 09 October 2002 07:18 pm, Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 9/10/02 3:47, Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even when Quick and Dirty takes longer. I tried to convince my boss that a certain customization required so many fundamental changes that it would be quicker and easier