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El jueves, 18 dici, 2003, a las 15:52 Europe/Madrid, Henri Yandell
escribió:
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html lists the PMC members up
until the previous addition of 20 or so. That list has to go to the
board
etc and I plan to add them
On Dec 19, 2003, at 12:56 AM, Rainer Klute wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:23:16 -0500 Harish Krishnaswamy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For the record I'm in favour of transacting business HERE.
But I would like to respond by saying that as I understand it it is
the
source and the development of it
Holy war time:
IoC TLP's
public class Log4J implements JakartaAware, LoggingAware
{
...
}
public class Log4J
{
public void setJakarta(Jakarta jakarta) { ... }
public void setLogging(Logging logging) { ... }
}
public class Log4J
{
public Log4J(Jakarta jakarta,
On Dec 19, 2003, at 2:27 PM, Ted Husted wrote:
Harish Krishnaswamy wrote:
ASF is a group of projects administered by the Apache board members.
The board delegates certain responsibilities over to the PMCs of the
individual projects while still maintaining the authority and
management
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:36:20 -0500
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
One example might be a lawyer working closely w/ a community (for
whatever reason) - that lawyer might be providing tremendous input and
participation, but has no need/use for committership. That person
could still be a member
Log4j is not leaving. It is simply moving to a new room in the house,
a room with a different label but still located within the same house.
As any house, this house offers protection and comfort to its
inhabitants. It is a place where developers can unleash their creative
powers onto the world.
I want to share a conversation that I hope sheds some light on what it
means to be on the PMC.
I was talking to a friend yesterday who said
I fear additional responsibility.
I told him that he should have nothing to fear, as what's being asked
for is that the committers simply continue to pay
On Dec 20, 2003, at 8:24 AM, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
Log4j is not leaving. It is simply moving to a new room in the house,
a room with a different label but still located within the same house.
As any house, this house offers protection and comfort to its
inhabitants. It is a place where developers
At 08:31 AM 12/20/2003 -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
public_pestering type=obligatory
Can we have TRACE as a supported level?
/public_pestering
Subsequent to the demand for the TRACE level expressed by a number of user,
there is every reason to believe that a vote will be held on this topic
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
I'd say it the other way around. The ASF is a collection of
communities that create and maintain codebases. To obtain
infrastructure support and some legal protection, these communities
donate the copyright of its software and ownership of its brand to the
Foundation.
At 08:42 AM 12/20/2003 -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
On Dec 20, 2003, at 8:40 AM, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
Subsequent to the demand for the TRACE level expressed by a number of
user, there is every reason to believe that a vote will be held on this
topic before log4j 1.3 is released. However, there
El sábado, 20 dici, 2003, a las 14:00 Europe/Madrid, Geir Magnusson Jr.
escribió:
On Dec 19, 2003, at 2:27 PM, Ted Husted wrote:
(...)
A very subtle concept is that the ASF doesn't actually own the
codebase. The codebase belongs to its community, and under the Apache
License, that community
Santiago Gala wrote:
[SNIP]
This implies that those having easier ability or will to maintain the
product are the effective owners of it. as in a rapidly changing
environment, software rot takes care of static code bases.
Exactly. There is a saying from Dune:
Whoever has the power to destroy
As an experiment, I tried asking some non-Jakarta people about some of the
issues we face:
http://www.javalobby.org/thread.jspa?forumID=61threadID=10427
Some comments that made me smile were:
Honestly, Jakarta doesn't mean much to me at all, other than some arbitrary
grouping under Apache. I
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
I want to share a conversation that I hope sheds some light on what it
means to be on the PMC.
I was talking to a friend yesterday who said
I fear additional responsibility.
I told him that he should have nothing to fear, as what's being asked
Unfortunately, you can't buy nor open source humor.
Perhaps you could delegate it?
I've often considered selling my children on the internet, they have a great sense of
humour.
OTOH perhaps it wouldn't stretch *that* far!
d.
disclaimer that was a JOKE, my wife would go seriously ballistic if
Danny Angus wrote:
disclaimer that was a JOKE, my wife would go seriously
ballistic if I sold our kids /disclaimer
Really? I'd pay to see that! ;-)
Can we start a pool to see who comes closest to the apogee?
--- Noel
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Santiago Gala wrote:
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El jueves, 18 dici, 2003, a las 15:52 Europe/Madrid, Henri Yandell
escribió:
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html lists the PMC members up
until the previous addition of 20 or so. That
On Dec 20, 2003, at 11:36 AM, Santiago Gala wrote:
El sábado, 20 dici, 2003, a las 14:00 Europe/Madrid, Geir Magnusson
Jr. escribió:
On Dec 19, 2003, at 2:27 PM, Ted Husted wrote:
(...)
A very subtle concept is that the ASF doesn't actually own the
codebase. The codebase belongs to its
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