Re: Licensing again.

2003-02-12 Thread Steve Downey
No, it is not up to the ASF. However, has the ASF attempted to clarify the matter with the FSF? Why not ask the FSF if importing java classes is considered as derivative work or simply as work that uses the library? It doesn't really matter. There are restrictions imposed on a 'work that

RE: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-08 Thread Steve Downey
-Original Message- From: Martin Poeschl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:44 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project] Steve Downey wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-08 Thread Steve Downey
-Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Diephouse Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project] It is your responsibility to enforce that policy. Not maven and not the

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-06 Thread Steve Downey
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project] BTW, given the license discussions it seems unlikely a solution that includes all the jars in the same place will work. So the

Infoworld reports good news on the JCP

2002-10-31 Thread Steve Downey
http://infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/10/29/021029hnjavajcp.xml quote JCP open-source upgrade released By Paul Krill October 29, 2002 7:36 am PT THE JCP PROGRAM Management Office on Tuesday is launching a new version of its Java Community Process program, to be called JCP 2.5, which embraces

Re: Linux Magazine article

2002-10-25 Thread Steve Downey
LGPL probably isn't bad enough to prevent people from using it. So the drive to create a BSD or Apache-style implementation hasn't exceeded the effort. On Friday 25 October 2002 08:16 pm, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: But JBoss is. JBoss support EJB but has some features as a general app server

Re: Linux Magazine article

2002-10-25 Thread Steve Downey
On Friday 25 October 2002 08:30 pm, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 2002/10/25 5:16 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish we did have something that supported a non-crappy interface like EOB (eob.sourceforge.net) Stuff like this reminds me of Velocity vs. JSP argument. People

Re: Is Cactus successful (was RE: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta)

2002-10-22 Thread Steve Downey
On Sunday 20 October 2002 02:03 pm, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Release more often, announce the releases. While you may have had articles published, I've never actually seen one. (I've seen them on Maven, Tomcat, Velocity, Struts to no end, Cocoon, Struts). I found the best approach to this is

Re: Is Cactus successful (was RE: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta)

2002-10-22 Thread Steve Downey
himself. Of course for project validty, it may be better to have a non-prinicipal contribute (if I write about POI it will not likely be viewed as objective but someone who has written about other APIs will probably get more credibility there), but that is another story. Steve Downey wrote

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-10 Thread Steve Downey
person, every nail looks like a thumb. Or something like that. === tom -Original Message- From: Steve Downey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:52 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ??? On Wednesday 09

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-09 Thread Steve Downey
On Wednesday 09 October 2002 07:18 pm, Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 9/10/02 3:47, Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even when Quick and Dirty takes longer. I tried to convince my boss that a certain customization required so many fundamental changes that it would be quicker and easier

Re: Getting JVM version

2002-09-26 Thread Steve Downey
That is just evil. It reminds me of the hacks for browser detection. And is as reliable. The 'right' way to do it is with System properties. You might need to query a few to get at what you're looking for, though. The on point ones are: java.specification.version java.vendor java.version

RE: License issue (the come back)

2002-03-14 Thread Steve Downey
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:07 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: License issue (the come back) snip / Please, not another standard body !!! Could someone check the definition of 'standard'

RE: License issue (the come back)

2002-03-13 Thread Steve Downey
From http://java.sun.com/j2ee/j2ee-1_3-fr-spec.pdf, the latest J2EE specification. Sun hereby grants you a fully-paid, non-exclusive, non-transferable, worldwide, limited license (without the right to sublicense), under Sun's intellectual property rights that are essential to practice the

RE: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful

2002-02-01 Thread Steve Downey
If you are _very_ lucky, the object is coarse grained enough, and has loose enough performance requirements, that the rest of the system can tolerate that calls to it will take 100 to 1000 times longer. I've never seen any system that lucky. Most objects don't work if they are made

RE: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful

2002-02-01 Thread Steve Downey
A 10,000 node linux cluster. http://www.google.com/press/highlights.html -Original Message- From: Alef Arendsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:58 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful As far as I can remember

RE: J2EE considered harmful (was [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml])

2002-01-31 Thread Steve Downey
snip I have implemented a system using Container Managed EntityBeans that worked fairly well. I used Jonas (it was some time ago). It was smaller than the original poster example (about 20 entity classes, tens of thousands of instances). I spent a lot of time getting the entity

RE: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-05 Thread Steve Downey
-Original Message- From: Peter Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 9:53 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: More abuse of coding styles... On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:26, Steve Downey wrote: Your javac has a configuration setting for the class

RE: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers

2001-10-25 Thread Steve Downey
While MS does a lot of things wrong, this isn't one of them. The $1000 fee is for a business to use Microsoft's .Net My Services, their web services, not for doing .NET development. -Original Message- From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 5:41

RE: Question version 1.1

2001-05-13 Thread Steve Downey
Tomcat 3.2.1 is the most current released version. Tomcat 3.2.2 beta 5 is the next version to be released on this code base. Tomcat 3.2 is in bug fix only mode. Tomcat 3.3 is in new work mode, and is also an implementation of servlet 2.2/jsp 1.1. It is a substantially refactored code base from

RE: RSS problems

2001-04-30 Thread Steve Downey
Better would be to figure out how to do the right thing. The URI associated with a DTD is not a locator, it's a namespace. It distinguishes this DTD from all others. The parser should be able to resolve the DTD locally. After all, the internet makes a really poor filesystem. The fact that

RE: [PROPOSAL] The Commons

2001-03-08 Thread Steve Downey
Jon Wrote: Additional: the issues surrounding logging and pluggable logging implementations are not covered here. I think they have the same importance as configuration. My vote is that we standardize on simply using Log4J and its interfaces for *everything*. +1 Two logging mechanisms is

RE: Test Infrastructure Project Proposal

2001-02-19 Thread Steve Downey
Jon, have you actually used JUnit? I have. It's an integral part of the project I'm working on. It's a wonderful lightweight, code-centric, unit test framework. It's also, very deliberately, code centric, small scale, and focused on testing single classes with little to no state tracking or