RE: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distribution location]

2003-02-05 Thread Nick Chalko
-Original Message- From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:18 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distribution location] Nick Chalko who is one of my own personal favorites (despite

Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distri bution location]

2003-02-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 02:29 PM, Nick Chalko wrote: I hope to have a proposal started on the Wiki tonight (PST). The Maven repository has been an essential tool for me for me. The next step is to play nice with gump. Then do help with dependencies Also to make it easy for projects

RE: Clear the air

2003-02-05 Thread Nick Chalko
. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:36 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distri bution location] JJAR in commons sandbox had some of these ideas in there... But can you build this into maven rather than

Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distribution location]

2003-02-05 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:35, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 02:29 PM, Nick Chalko wrote: I hope to have a proposal started on the Wiki tonight (PST). The Maven repository has been an essential tool for me for me. The next step is to play nice with gump.

RE: Clear the air

2003-02-05 Thread Jason van Zyl
: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:36 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distri bution location] JJAR in commons sandbox had some of these ideas in there... But can you build this into maven rather than in parallel? -- jvz. Jason van Zyl

RE: Clear the air

2003-02-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Nick Chalko wrote: JJAR has stalled. but maybe restarting that is a good solution. I think building outside of maven is a worthwhile because not every one uses maven. I would like to see the tools and standards developed be independent of the build tool. This doesn't

Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distribution location]

2003-02-05 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote, On 05/02/2003 20.35: On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 02:29 PM, Nick Chalko wrote: I hope to have a proposal started on the Wiki tonight (PST). The Maven repository has been an essential tool for me for me. The next step is to play nice with gump. Then do help

RE: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distribution location]

2003-02-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On 5 Feb 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:29, Nick Chalko wrote: I hope to have a proposal started on the Wiki tonight (PST). The Maven repository has been an essential tool for me for me. The next step is to play nice with gump. Then do help

Re: Clear the air

2003-02-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:36 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distri bution location] JJAR in commons sandbox had some of these ideas in there... But can you build this into maven rather than in parallel

Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distribution location]

2003-02-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote, On 05/02/2003 20.35: On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 02:29 PM, Nick Chalko wrote: JJAR in commons sandbox had some of these ideas in there... But can you build this into maven rather than in parallel?

Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distribution location]

2003-02-05 Thread Ted Leung
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distribution location] On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:35, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 02:29 PM, Nick Chalko wrote: I hope to have

RE: Clear the air

2003-02-05 Thread Nick Chalko
-Original Message- From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:42 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: RE: Clear the air On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Nick Chalko wrote: JJAR has stalled. but maybe restarting that is a good solution. I think

RE: Clear the air

2003-02-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Nick Chalko wrote: I don't use maven to do my builds. I use a different tool(centipede or ant). I am proposing an Project to handle dependencies, versioning, and downloads. The new project being separate from both Maven and Centipede but useable by both (or other

RE: Clear the air

2003-02-05 Thread Nick Chalko
-Original Message- From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:57 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: RE: Clear the air On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Nick Chalko wrote: I don't use maven to do my builds. I use a different tool(centipede or ant

Re: Clear the air

2003-02-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 03:01 PM, Nick Chalko wrote: *nod*. +1 on using what Maven currently has, merged with anything Ruper has learnt about being outside of Maven and tested by both the Maven and Centipede communities. -1 to JJAR as it's just never made it into reality. Why use a

Re: Clear the air

2003-02-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 03:01 PM, Nick Chalko wrote: *nod*. +1 on using what Maven currently has, merged with anything Ruper has learnt about being outside of Maven and tested by both the Maven and Centipede communities. -1 to

Re: Clear the air

2003-02-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 03:06 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 03:01 PM, Nick Chalko wrote: *nod*. +1 on using what Maven currently has, merged with anything Ruper has learnt about being outside of Maven

Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primarydistribution location]

2003-02-05 Thread Jason van Zyl
Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distribution location] On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:35, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Wednesday, February 5, 2003

RE: Clear the air

2003-02-05 Thread Nick Chalko
-Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:48 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Clear the air I think building outside of maven is a worthwhile because not every one uses maven. Would more people

Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distributionlocation]

2003-02-05 Thread Sam Ruby
Jason van Zyl wrote: On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:45, Henri Yandell wrote: The Sun licence stuff on there is more quesitonable. I figure as long as ibiblio are aware they are liable, and that they have happily accepted that liability, then it doesn't matter. Or do they pass the liability on to the

Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distributionlocation]

2003-02-05 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I'd hate to see us build mechanism that enforced policy. +1 I'd like to lend a hand if this gets broken out into a separate project. +1 Ted - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distribution location]

2003-02-05 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I just got off the phone and I got a clear answer as to what Apache could be liable for. If Maven, being an ASF piece of software, is party to illegal assembly then the ASF could be liable. I'd like to thank you and applaud you for being so concientious about this. I would not have

Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distributionlocation]

2003-02-05 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
okey, i'm wading in here, noting as i do the angels high-tailing it in the other direction.. :-) i'm ccing community@apache because i think portions of this discussion are important to the entire asf developer community, and not just jakarta. (jakarta leads the way again! grin nature=completely

Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distribution location]

2003-02-05 Thread Costin Manolache
+1 ( a bit too long, but good !) Costin Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: okey, i'm wading in here, noting as i do the angels high-tailing it in the other direction.. :-) i'm ccing community@apache because i think portions of this discussion are important to the entire asf developer