Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Petar Tahchiev

On 5/9/07, Jörg Schaible [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


+1

Henri Yandell wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:20 PM:

 Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect.

 However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that
 it move to TLP.

 http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution

 Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't added
 your name yet.

 [ ] +1 I support the proposal
 [ ] +0 I don't care
 [ ] -1  I'm opposed to the proposal because...

 Voting will close in one week.

 Hen

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Hi,


I am not a Jakarta commiter, and also vote is not binding, but I want
to ask something. What are the benefits for commons of moving to a
TLP?
Also as I read the official commons intro, it states that commons is a
project focused on all aspects of reusable Java components. So
as we all know Jakarta is a devision of Apache, that deals with the
Java open-source projects in the foundation, therefore, as I see it,
it would be better for commons to stay in the Jakarta.
So, maybe I am wrong, but I don't see any direct benefit for commons to move
to a TLP.
That's why, I have to vote:

-1

and ask you to prove me wrong.

Thank you all.

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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Jean-Frederic
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 10:20 -0700, Henri Yandell wrote:
 Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect.
 
 However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to TLP.
 
 http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution
 
 Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't added
 your name yet.
 
 [X] +1 I support the proposal

Cheers

Jean-Frederic

 [ ] +0 I don't care
 [ ] -1  I'm opposed to the proposal because...
 
 Voting will close in one week.
 
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Re: TLP proposal Turbine POI for this board meeting and todo items.

2007-05-09 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Turbine vote is finished and we are ready to go. Our TLP proposal is on
the Turbine Wiki, it is the same as the template (except that we have a
single superflous is in it. Everyone who finds it, can keep it).

POI vote is still running AFAIK.

So please, add the Turbine TLP proposal to the board agenda. Thanks. If
it needs reformatting, ping me.


Best regards
Henning


Martin van den Bemt schrieb:
 Hi everyone,
 
 The 16th of May is the next board meeting, so I was wondering if you were all 
 ready to go TLP at
 this stage or if you prefer to wait for next months board meeting ?
 Getting the approval done will not mean you have to move over everything 
 immediately (we are still
 volunteers) and gives us a better time-line to help out with moving things 
 over, set up redirects, etc..
 There are a couple of things I like to see (re) checked :
 
 - Have all people added their name to the TLP proposal ?
 - Is the proposal setup according to
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/templates/subproject-tlp-resolution.txt
  ?
 (this was just changed recently)
 
 If everything is ok, ping me, so I can add it to the boards agenda.. Please 
 remember that everything
 that is added to the agenda needs to be  80 characters on a line :)
 
 Mvgr,
 Martin
 
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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
 [X] -1  I'm opposed to the proposal because...

diffing the Wiki text against the template in SVN
(https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/templates/subproject-tlp-resolution.txt)
shows significant differences. I'd like you to update the proposal
accordingly. As this proposal will not make the next board meeting
anyway, there is plenty of time to do so.

If this is done, then my vote will be +1.

Best regards
Henning


Henri Yandell schrieb:
 Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect.
 
 However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to
 TLP.
 
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution
 
 Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't added
 your name yet.
 
 [ ] +1 I support the proposal
 [ ] +0 I don't care
 [ ] -1  I'm opposed to the proposal because...
 
 Voting will close in one week.
 
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2007-05-09 Thread Revathy

Hello,

I have to use mspowerpoint parser plugin of the nutch. How can I build it 
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Re: TLP proposal Turbine POI for this board meeting and todo items.

2007-05-09 Thread Nick Burch

On Tue, 8 May 2007, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
The 16th of May is the next board meeting, so I was wondering if you 
were all ready to go TLP at this stage or if you prefer to wait for next 
months board meeting ?


I think we are. The only thing is that our vote doesn't finish until 
Friday, so will that be cutting it a bit fine?



- Have all people added their name to the TLP proposal ?


I believe we have everyone on our list


- Is the proposal setup according to subproject-tlp-resolution.txt


It almost was... I've attached an updated version, which has the required
few tweaks made to it.

NickEstablish the Apache POI project

   WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
   interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
   Foundation's purpose to establish a Project, to be known as
   Apache POI Project, relating to the creation and maintenance 
   of open-source software related to the continued implementation of
   the library for manipulating files in various business formats
   currently known as Apache Jakarta POI, for distribution at
   no charge to the public.

   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
   Committee (PMC) is hereby established pursuant to Bylaws
   of the Foundation; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the Apache POI PMC be and hereby is
   charged with the creation and maintenance of Apache POI;
   and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache POI be and
   hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
   the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
   Apache POI PMC, and to have primary responsibility for 
   management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of 
   the Apache POI PMC; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
   hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
   Apache POI PMC:

 * Nick Burch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Amol S. Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Jason Height [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Marc Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Rainer Klute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Yegor Kozlov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Danny Muid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Avik Sengupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Glen Stampoultzis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Sean Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Nick Burch
   be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache POI, to serve
   in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of
   Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
   resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
   a successor is appointed; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the Apache POI Project be and hereby
   is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
   Jakarta Project's POI; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
   POI sub-project and encumbered upon the Apache Jakarta
   PMC are hereafter discharged.
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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Henri Yandell

On 5/9/07, Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [X] -1  I'm opposed to the proposal because...

diffing the Wiki text against the template in SVN
(https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/templates/subproject-tlp-resolution.txt)
shows significant differences. I'd like you to update the proposal
accordingly. As this proposal will not make the next board meeting
anyway, there is plenty of time to do so.

If this is done, then my vote will be +1.


Yeah, there was recent activity in changing that. Turbine/POI ones
might have the same problem.

I'll get it fixed (unless someone else hops in and does it).

Hen

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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Don't know about POI, Turbine is fine, Scott used the right template.

Best regards
Henning


Henri Yandell schrieb:
 On 5/9/07, Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [X] -1  I'm opposed to the proposal because...

 diffing the Wiki text against the template in SVN
 (https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/templates/subproject-tlp-resolution.txt)

 shows significant differences. I'd like you to update the proposal
 accordingly. As this proposal will not make the next board meeting
 anyway, there is plenty of time to do so.

 If this is done, then my vote will be +1.
 
 Yeah, there was recent activity in changing that. Turbine/POI ones
 might have the same problem.
 
 I'll get it fixed (unless someone else hops in and does it).
 
 Hen
 
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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Davanum Srinivas

+1

On 5/8/07, Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

+1

Niall

On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect.

 However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to TLP.

 http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution

 Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't added
 your name yet.

 [ ] +1 I support the proposal
 [ ] +0 I don't care
 [ ] -1  I'm opposed to the proposal because...

 Voting will close in one week.

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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Henri Yandell

This came up on commons-dev when we were discussing the idea:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-commons-dev/200704.mbox/[EMAIL 
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My reply was:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-commons-dev/200704.mbox/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

The hard part, as you pointed out, is that we all know that Jakarta
means open source Java. It still shows up on job specs every now and
then as its own technology. However from a community point of view,
Jakarta is still in many ways the same copy of the Apache it was many
years ago and that doesn't fit well into the structure at Apache.
Individual communities should be tlps and not be within tlps.

The extremely loose direction we're moving in is for the remaining
active sub-communities within Jakarta to move to TLP, any nearly
active parts to be discussing whether there is a possible new home
(for example, Regexp/ORO - Commons has long been discussed) and for
inactive projects to be managed in some way (many of the Taglibs while
maybe still used have no future and no development activity for years;
ECS is also very maintenance and Slide seems to be slowly heading the
same way afaik). That still leaves people stuck in a grey area, and
we'll need to figure out what to do there. As we're a bunch of
subcommunities, we'll continue to do this in our slow galactic-council
way.


From what I've heard - discussion at ApacheCon in Amsterdam was that

we want to continue to do something with the Jakarta name, possibly an
open source Java at Apache portal/federation so the old 'Jakarta
equals open source Java at Apache' viewpoint can come back :) Of
course we might not convince the board on a commons.apache.org, there
was something there before and we do have Java in our tlp resolution
which may be considered bad.

Hope that helps,

Hen

On 5/8/07, Petar Tahchiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 5/9/07, Jörg Schaible [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 +1

 Henri Yandell wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:20 PM:

  Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect.
 
  However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that
  it move to TLP.
 
  http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution
 
  Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't added
  your name yet.
 
  [ ] +1 I support the proposal
  [ ] +0 I don't care
  [ ] -1  I'm opposed to the proposal because...
 
  Voting will close in one week.
 
  Hen
 
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 Hi,

I am not a Jakarta commiter, and also vote is not binding, but I want
to ask something. What are the benefits for commons of moving to a
TLP?
Also as I read the official commons intro, it states that commons is a
project focused on all aspects of reusable Java components. So
as we all know Jakarta is a devision of Apache, that deals with the
Java open-source projects in the foundation, therefore, as I see it,
it would be better for commons to stay in the Jakarta.
So, maybe I am wrong, but I don't see any direct benefit for commons to move
to a TLP.
That's why, I have to vote:

-1

and ask you to prove me wrong.

Thank you all.

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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Thomas Vandahl
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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Ted Husted

It would be nice if the proposal allowed for some flexibility as to language.

We do have several ASF products written in C#, and the notion of
starting a C# commons has come up a couple of times in discussions
between open source C# developers.

-Ted.

On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect.

However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to TLP.

http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution

Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't added
your name yet.

[ ] +1 I support the proposal
[ ] +0 I don't care
[ ] -1  I'm opposed to the proposal because...

Voting will close in one week.


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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Hi,

I think this was discussed before and the consensus was we will change
the charter if a C# project actually shows up. Jakarta is dying because
there is not enough adhesion between the projects. The binding element
of the commons TLP is currently we are developing Java components. If
there is significant mass in any other language/technology, it is simple
to update the charter later, not to over-engineer it at inception.

Best regards
Henning

On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 15:44 -0400, Ted Husted wrote:
 It would be nice if the proposal allowed for some flexibility as to language.
 
 We do have several ASF products written in C#, and the notion of
 starting a C# commons has come up a couple of times in discussions
 between open source C# developers.
 
 -Ted.
 
 On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect.
 
  However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to 
  TLP.
 
  http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution
 
  Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't added
  your name yet.
 
  [ ] +1 I support the proposal
  [ ] +0 I don't care
  [ ] -1  I'm opposed to the proposal because...
 
  Voting will close in one week.
 
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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Oliver Zeigermann

+1

Oliver

2007/5/8, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect.

However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to TLP.

http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution

Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't added
your name yet.

[ ] +1 I support the proposal
[ ] +0 I don't care
[ ] -1  I'm opposed to the proposal because...

Voting will close in one week.

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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Rony G. Flatscher (Apache)


Henri Yandell wrote:
 Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect.

 However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move
 to TLP.

http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution

 Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't added
 your name yet.

 [ ] +1 I support the proposal
 [ ] +0 I don't care
 [ ] -1  I'm opposed to the proposal because...

 Voting will close in one week.
+1

---rony


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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Martin van den Bemt
 I am not a Jakarta commiter, and also vote is not binding, but I want
 to ask something. What are the benefits for commons of moving to a

You are a Jakarta committer :)

Mvgr,
Martin

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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Petar Tahchiev

On 5/10/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I am not a Jakarta commiter, and also vote is not binding, but I want
 to ask something. What are the benefits for commons of moving to a

You are a Jakarta committer :)

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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Scott Eade

+1

Scott

Henri Yandell wrote:

Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect.

However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move 
to TLP.


   http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution

Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't added
your name yet.

[ ] +1 I support the proposal
[ ] +0 I don't care
[ ] -1  I'm opposed to the proposal because...

Voting will close in one week.

Hen



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