On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 00:20, mohammad nabil wrote:
> >
> >we are talking about software here. It's no life and death matter. No one
> >is going to lose their life over this. It's not like a U.S. gov. official
> >leaking the name of a CIA operative to the public.
> >
>
> what that mean :
we are talking about software here. It's no life and death matter. No one
is going to lose their life over this. It's not like a U.S. gov. official
leaking the name of a CIA operative to the public.
what that mean :s
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Th
Vic Cekvenich wrote:
I am done with it.
.V
Thanks, Vic. I think that's what most of us where wishing for.
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--- Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dude get a life and stop wining, we have better things to do, than read
> this shit.
> One thing is to have an opinion, the other thing is listening when
> people are actually saying you are wining and complaining at
Dude get a life and stop wining, we have better things to do, than read
this shit.
One thing is to have an opinion, the other thing is listening when
people are actually saying you are wining and complaining at the worng
place. LISTEN!
Mvgr,
Martin
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 23:37, Vic Cekvenich wrote
Scott Tavares wrote:
Geezz relax Vic, . I can not understand why you are so
passionate about this.
Sincerely I think this is bad for open source and for sofware, which is
where I do make a living.
This is great for comercail vendors, "proving" that open source are...
less ethical. What do
Vic Cekvenich wrote:
I have been thinking about it, I do not think removing the offeding
code is appropriate or sufficient.
If proven, I think offending devlopers, new or old should be baned
from ASF (and other OSS projects) for a few years. The project should
be parked. Let it live on SF,
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Part of the proposal indicates the jakarta-commons is not the right home for
> HiveMind, as it does not fit in with the charter of the commons (too many
> dependencies, etc.).
>
Even if it were proposed that Hivemind stay in jakarta-commons, I do not share
Martin's c
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> I will try to make this last message on the topic of ethics, its up
to
> the people sitting on the hands to see this is as a problem and do
> something.
Well, I've been sitting on my hands realy hard trying not to jump
in with a witty and sarcastic reply
Return Receipt
Your [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework
document
:
Quoting:
"Note: the current code base reflects an alternate package name,
org.apache.commons.hivemind. Subsequent research has shown that
HiveMind is not a suitable candidate for the Jakarta Commons. The
existing code base will be migrated to the new package during the
transition out of the sand
Part of the proposal indicates the jakarta-commons is not the right home for HiveMind,
as it does not fit in with the charter of the commons (too many dependencies, etc.).
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Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> Accepting this proposal as
Accepting this proposal as currently written would also involve the
acceptance of five new individuals as Apache committers. Based on where
the HiveMind repo currently is/was, that implies giving five unknowns (to
me, anyway) access to Jakarta Commons as a whole. I'm not so sure I'd be
willing to s
Once rec'd by myself, I will make note of it.
Nayak, Prashant wrote:
>
>
> Just wanted to confirm that the software grant agreement is being
> processed by WebCT and should hopefully be ready soon.
>
> Prashant
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE
Just wanted to confirm that the software grant agreement is being
processed by WebCT and should hopefully be ready soon.
Prashant
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:46 PM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: Re: [Proposa
Cool. Could this be added as a note to the proposal? As a dependency or
whatever.
Hen
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >From talking with Prashant, the grant is in-progress. Given that these discussions
> >tend to ramble on for a couple of weeks, I think the grant will be ready l
>From talking with Prashant, the grant is in-progress. Given that these discussions
>tend to ramble on for a couple of weeks, I think the grant will be ready long before
>any real action is necessitated.
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So this proposal is dependent on the grant?
Any time line on that?
[not trying to get in the way, jsut to do the pmc-thing]
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The offending IP has been taken off-line: this includes the HiveMind CVS
> repository, the temporary downloads directory an
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Vic Cekvenich wrote:
>
>
> I think that this is the right list, very few people are intrested about
> the incubator. This is about ASF reputation. (It is also about the OSS
> reputation, including BSD, Linux, CodeHus, etc.)
Why not mail the httpd list then? Or the Ant list?
The offending IP has been taken off-line: this includes the HiveMind CVS repository,
the temporary downloads directory and (most regrettably) the HiveMind home page.
This proposal is half of the resolution to the IP issue. The other (and possibly more
important part) is the software grant that i
On Nov 11, 2003, at 1:25 PM, Vic Cekvenich wrote:
ASF should publicly applogize, and as a sign of friendship with OSS,
do something to help jBoss, such as help with J2EE certification, or
help with code or something.
This statement jumped out at me like a tiger.
The suspicious might read the ab
Daft question, possibly, but could someone summarise the IP issue that was
happening over HiveMind and how it is currently resolved.
I've not been following the thread, but I've seen the noise. Is everything
squared away and happy?
Hen
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Nayak, Prashant wrote:
>
> Proposal f
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
I think that this is the right list, very few people are intrested about
the incubator. This is about ASF reputation. (It is also about the OSS
reputation, including BSD, Linux, CodeHus, etc.)
Due to this Stein mistake OSS could be view as very lowest form. Makes
me
Return Receipt
Your [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework
document
:
Please turn off your receipt request when posting.
::>-Original Message-
::>From: Nayak, Prashant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
::>Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 12:35 PM
::>To: Jakarta General List
::>Subject: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework
::>
::>
::>
::>Proposal for the HiveMind Pr
Proposal for the HiveMind Project
(0) Rationale
HiveMind is a simple framework for creating pluggable, configurable,
reusable services.
Simple: HiveMind is a way to create a network of services in terms of
Java interfaces and classes; it cherry picks the most useful ideas from
Service Oriented
That last thread seemed such a waste of bandwidth. Unfortunately it
swallowed a discussion we were trying to start concerning Licensing
issues associated with the consideration of using BSD style licensed
code in Apache Projects.
To formulate a more solid point people can respond to:
Can BSD l
At 04:11 PM 11/11/2003, you wrote:
Since you ask so nicely I'll reveal a secret to you... YOU may know the
TRUTH...
But first you must subscribe to the geronimo mailing list and take your
geronimo questions over there.
@see http://incubator.apache.org
d.
mmm, ok i gave you your chance and tursted
> as you like, i just wanted to help
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That is the Right place to discuss this.
d.
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Since you ask so nicely I'll reveal a secret to you... YOU may know the
TRUTH...
But first you must subscribe to the geronimo mailing list and take your
geronimo questions over there.
@see http://incubator.apache.org
d.
mmm, ok i gave you your chance and tursted you will say What the Truth is!!
Because this forum is not Geronimo's forum. This is for Jakarta, a project
at Apache specialising in some areas of server-side Java. Some parts of
Jakarta could be being used in Geronimo.
Hen
then, What is the Truth?!!
Only the Truth and nothing but the Truth!
-mnm
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> why it is not the appropriate forum for this shouldnât we know the
> truth??!!!
> We must know the truth
Quoting from my original message which you appear NOT to have read before
replying to it:
"This list is for project management discussion regarding the Jakarta
project.
Geronimo is not
On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 09:57 AM, mohammad nabil wrote:
Vic,
Notwithstanding your arguments this is not the appropriate forum for
this.
This list is for project management discussion regarding the Jakarta
project.
Geronimo is not under the jursidiction of the Jakarta project.
If you w
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, mohammad nabil wrote:
> >
> >Vic,
> >
> >Notwithstanding your arguments this is not the appropriate forum for this.
> >This list is for project management discussion regarding the Jakarta
> >project.
> >Geronimo is not under the jursidiction of the Jakarta project.
> >
> >If
Vic,
Notwithstanding your arguments this is not the appropriate forum for this.
This list is for project management discussion regarding the Jakarta
project.
Geronimo is not under the jursidiction of the Jakarta project.
If you want to make trouble please make it in the appropriate place, where
yo
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Thanks,
jb
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:38:18 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> [in case it's not obvious, this email pertains only to Jakarta
> committers]
> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whow
> > The ASF treats the allegations of code copying very seriously, and will
> > take what actions are necessary to ensure that no IP rights are
> > violated, any offending code, if found, is removed, and any other
> > appropriate action is taken.
> GREAT!!! That is 99% of what I wanted to hea
Vic,
Notwithstanding your arguments this is not the appropriate forum for this.
This list is for project management discussion regarding the Jakarta
project.
Geronimo is not under the jursidiction of the Jakarta project.
If you want to make trouble please make it in the appropriate place, whe
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