Re: Leading Contributor?

2005-03-19 Thread Jim Jagielski
I've thought about this for a long time, and this is where I stand. As many people know, this has been a somewhat recurring issue, with JBoss blurring and obscuring the facts regarding Apache Tomcat, in such a way that it appears that they, JBoss, control and direct the development of Tomcat. Now

Re: Leading Contributor?

2005-03-19 Thread Henri Yandell
Sending somethign to SD Magazine pronto seems a no-brainer as we have a chance of getting them to change it before they goto print with their June issue, though I may be being stupid there, June's issue might be hitting the stands next week for all I know. I'll work on sending something to

[draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-19 Thread Henri Yandell
Due to the timeliness of this, I plan to send it Sunday night. Given that we're on a weekend, I doubt it will be read until Monday. Any opinions? - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tomcat 5.0 error in JOLT announcement Hi Kate, I'm writing to let you know about a

Re: Leading Contributor?

2005-03-19 Thread Bill Barker
Please don't feed the Trolls. - Original Message - From: Davanum Srinivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List general@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 7:53 AM Subject: Re: Leading Contributor? Tim, This is a *VERY* slippery slope. All of us are committers at

Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-19 Thread Jim Jagielski
+1 On Mar 19, 2005, at 1:18 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: Due to the timeliness of this, I plan to send it Sunday night. Given that we're on a weekend, I doubt it will be read until Monday. Any opinions? - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tomcat 5.0 error in JOLT

Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-19 Thread Torsten Curdt
Sounds good +1 cheers -- Torsten signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-19 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Good note. It surprises me you don't want to mention the branding issue (Apache Tomcat vs Tomcat). I'd think that'd be a point that a publication and commercial enterprise like SD Magazine would understand well and be completely sympathetic to. It's entirely possible the SD magazine intended

Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-19 Thread Henri Yandell
I did consider it, but thought that a request for: Apache Tomcat 5.0 (The Apache Software Foundation) would be overkill. In much the same way that they have: Flash Lite 1.1 (Macromedia) and yet it's correctly referred to as Macromedia Flash. I can happily add it if there's a few +1s for doing so.

Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-19 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Not a big deal, just thought it might set a good precedent. Interestingly, while they list Contribute (Macromedia) in the awards they also refer to Macromedia Flex (Macromedia). The split seems to be about 50/50. Also, I suggest you start the letter with a note of thanks for selecting Tomcat as

RE: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-19 Thread Tim O'Brien
I think the Jolt awards knew better and were trying to send a message similar to the '94 nobel peace prize for Arafat, Peres, and Rabin (which incidentally didn't work very well). (Or, the '98 award for Hume and Trimble for that matter.) Instead of firing off an email to SD, why not stop,

Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-19 Thread Henri Yandell
This was brought up separately on [EMAIL PROTECTED] too. I'll take that as a second +1 and go ahead and change it to Apache Tomcat 5.0. There was also a need to change 'whether the company be Sun' to 'whether their company be Sun'. Grammar screw-up on my part. Hen On Sat, 19 Mar 2005, Henri

Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-19 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Added carbon copy to PRC. Left original message more or less intact so they can follow. ;-) Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Due to the timeliness of this, I plan to send it Sunday night. Given that we're on a weekend, I doubt it will be read until Monday. Still, I'd send earlier if

RE: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-19 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005, Tim O'Brien wrote: I think the Jolt awards knew better and were trying to send a message similar to the '94 nobel peace prize for Arafat, Peres, and Rabin (which incidentally didn't work very well). (Or, the '98 award for Hume and You really think so? My assumption is that

Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-19 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005, Daniel Quinlan wrote: Added carbon copy to PRC. Left original message more or less intact so they can follow. ;-) Thanks Daniel, all good stuff. I'll incorporate it and send a new version to all three lists sometime tonight. Hen

Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-19 Thread Remy Maucherat
Henri Yandell wrote: Due to the timeliness of this, I plan to send it Sunday night. Given that we're on a weekend, I doubt it will be read until Monday. Any opinions? I am definitely contributing to Tomcat as part of my employment at JBoss. I am not contributing on my own free time to Tomcat as

Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-19 Thread Phil Steitz
Henri Yandell wrote: snip/ You've pointed out that JBoss are the contributor in your commits, rather than yourself as an individual. I assume other JBoss employees are in the same situation. How does that change the email? Do I need to drop the paragraph about JBoss not being a contributor I

Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-19 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Rémy, You will probably need to resend the CCLA...i can't find in the regular location where ccla's are recorded. - Can u please explain what you mean by current attitude? - Are u saying that Tomcat is *NOT* really Apache Tomcat? - Are you saying that we need to formalize a mechanism to figure