RE: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-11-21 Thread RK
004 4:26 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items I'm in favour of the multiple exception catch. I think the common use for this is to catch a series of checked exceptions in a certain way, while avoiding catching unchecked exceptions which y

Re: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-11-20 Thread Brett Porter
I'm in favour of the multiple exception catch. I think the common use for this is to catch a series of checked exceptions in a certain way, while avoiding catching unchecked exceptions which you want to propogate. This is a good thing, because often I've seen code that catches Exception for brevit

RE: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-11-20 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> > > try { > > > > > > } catch( (JMSException | RemoteException | SQLException) e) { > > > } > > try { > > ... > > } catch (Exception e) { > > ... > > } > Usually you don't want to just catch all exceptions in a single block. > Instead you want to have clusters of exceptions And w

Re: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-11-20 Thread Martin Cooper
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 23:31:11 -0800, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 23:21:02 -0800, Daniel Rall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 13:35 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: > > ... > > > How about just being able to do multiple Exceptions in one blo

Re: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-11-20 Thread Felipe Leme
On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 05:31, Craig McClanahan wrote: > How about two lines, which you can already do today? > > try { > ... > } catch (Exception e) { > ... > } The problem with such approach is that it catches all exception, checked or not (see below) > seems to be a standarized "log it and

Re: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-11-20 Thread Rainer Klute
Am Sa, 2004-11-20 um 08.31 schrieb Craig McClanahan: > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 23:21:02 -0800, Daniel Rall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 13:35 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: > > ... > > > How about just being able to do multiple Exceptions in one block? > > > > > > try { > > >

Re: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-11-19 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 23:21:02 -0800, Daniel Rall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 13:35 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: > ... > > How about just being able to do multiple Exceptions in one block? > > > > try { > > > > } catch(JMSException, RemoteException, SQLException e) { >

Re: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-11-19 Thread Daniel Rall
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 13:35 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: ... > How about just being able to do multiple Exceptions in one block? > > try { > > } catch(JMSException, RemoteException, SQLException e) { > } > > or possibly even: > > try { > > } catch( (JMSException | RemoteExcept

Re: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-30 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 19:35, Henri Yandell wrote: > 2/ > How about just being able to do multiple Exceptions in one block? > > try { > > } catch(JMSException, RemoteException, SQLException e) { > } > > or possibly even: > > try { > > } catch( (JMSException | RemoteException

RE: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-29 Thread Gary Gregory
> try { > > } catch(JMSException, RemoteException, SQLException e) { > } +1 (We used to have something like that in Smalltalk) Gary - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL P

FW: RE: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-29 Thread Dan Lydick
gt; To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 10/29/04 12:38:48 PM > Subject: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items > > > > > 2/ > How about just being able to do multiple Exceptions in one block? > > try { > &

Re: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-29 Thread sebb
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:35:04 -0400 (EDT), Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, Dain Sundstrom wrote: > > > I actually love closures, and think it would be a great addition to Java. I > > spend a lot of time tracking down poorly written try/finally blocks in > > pe

Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-29 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, Dain Sundstrom wrote: I actually love closures, and think it would be a great addition to Java. I spend a lot of time tracking down poorly written try/finally blocks in people's code where they don't properly close DB connections, IO streams, Jar files, and even delete the

Re: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-29 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Oct 27, 2004, at 4:15 PM, Bernhard Fastenrath wrote: method pointers? closures? Is anybody going to suggest self-modifying java assembler code as a language feature? I don't really see how you got from method pointers and closures to self-modifying code (I see that as a bit of fear mongering).

Re: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-28 Thread Danny Angus
Dain wrote: > I understand what you are saying, but do you believe that Sun could > actually get such a feature right? I take your point, and tend to think not. I don't believe that Sun would get it right first time, not if we consider their track record. > So, yes, I am arguing that no feature

Re: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-27 Thread Bernhard Fastenrath
method pointers? closures? Is anybody going to suggest self-modifying java assembler code as a language feature? Is the goal to break Java and render it useless? In my opinion we can live without closures. You didn't have to attach "for a bit longer". Jim Moore wrote: The way that most modern lan

RE: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-27 Thread Jim Moore
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:53 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Future JDK features 2 items On Oct 27, 2004, at 1:10 AM, Danny Angus wrote: > > Dain wrote: > >> If you want method pointers today, just get a good byte code >> generation tool. >

Re: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-27 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Oct 27, 2004, at 1:10 AM, Danny Angus wrote: Dain wrote: If you want method pointers today, just get a good byte code generation tool. Yeah I know, and I seriously believe that workarounds such as this do more to harm the so-called "purity" of Java than providing explicit language level mechan

Re: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-27 Thread Danny Angus
Dain wrote: > If you want method pointers today, just get a good byte code generation > tool. Yeah I know, and I seriously believe that workarounds such as this do more to harm the so-called "purity" of Java than providing explicit language level mechanisms for method pointers. The AWT moved fr

Re: FW: RE: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-27 Thread Danny Angus
>> Where's the advantage of a method pointer? > Maybe Mr. Angus wasn't going here, but behind my > concept was work I have done in C/C++ with arrays > of function-through-pointer for varied functionality > depending on context. Yes. It was in order to provide much more dynamic variation in behavi

Re: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-26 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Oct 26, 2004, at 1:17 AM, Danny Angus wrote: 1/ Ok don't flame me... "Method pointers" If you want method pointers today, just get a good byte code generation tool. We use cglib in Geronimo to generate FastMethod objects, which look a lot like reflection Method but are about a 100 times faste

Re: FW: RE: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-26 Thread Dan Lydick
> [Original Message] > From: Bernhard Fastenrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 10/26/04 2:09:02 PM > Subject: Re: FW: RE: Future JDK features 2 items > > Dan Lydick wrote: > > >> <>From: Danny An

Re: FW: RE: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-26 Thread Bernhard Fastenrath
Dan Lydick wrote: <>From: Danny Angus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/ Ok don't flame me... "Method pointers" But still, be sure to watch for flames from the Purist Society! They _do_ have a point, ya know. I *know* it is possible to accomplish all the delegation one might want by using polymo

FW: RE: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-26 Thread Dan Lydick
> [Original Message] > From: Danny Angus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 10/26/04 3:17:32 AM > Subject: Future JDK features 2 items > > > 1/ Ok don't flame me... "Method pointers" But still, be sure

Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-26 Thread Danny Angus
1/ Ok don't flame me... "Method pointers" I *know* it is possible to accomplish all the delegation one might want by using polymorphism, but this often leads to unncessary screeds of boiler-plate, so I still I believe there is a case for some kind of streamlining of delegation by allowing it to b