Re: Revisions to xml.apache.org charter

2003-03-14 Thread Neil Graham
Hi Ted, > Look in /home/cvs/CVSROOT /avail on cvs.apache.org. Ah; thanks. > For Xerces-n this is true. You'll notice that there is on CVS repo for all > of Xerces. Right. Which means that if we were to adhere to the letter of the charter, it would almost never be possible to get a majority vo

Re: Revisions to xml.apache.org charter

2003-03-14 Thread Ted Leung
I've committed some of the changes from Peter, Berin and Steven.   The criteria that I used were that I tried to commit changes that had to do with clarifying relationships with the Board, Incubator and projects/subproject.  Changes clarifying xml.apache.org wide vs subproject committers got

Re: Revisions to xml.apache.org charter

2003-03-14 Thread Ted Leung
- Original Message - From: "Neil Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:09 AM Subject: Re: Revisions to xml.apache.org charter > Hi Dirk and all, > > I've had concerns similar to Joerg's for quite a w

Re: Revisions to xml.apache.org charter

2003-03-14 Thread Neil Graham
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Re: Revisions to xml.apache.org charter

2003-03-13 Thread J.Pietschmann
Steven Noels wrote: My nitpicking was based on the _required_ votes. I think we should have as little required votes as possible. Indeed. There should be some common sense and perhaps tradition applied to what's voted on. I think the charter can mention "important issues regarding the codebase", w

Re: Revisions to xml.apache.org charter

2003-03-13 Thread Peter B. West
Joerg, I hadn't even thought of that. My general concern was to have spelled out the circumstances in which a) all committers on XML sub-projects or b) all committers on a particular sub-project are being referred to. It's not enough to rely on context. Your point is, of course, valid. Peter

Re: Revisions to xml.apache.org charter

2003-03-13 Thread Steven Noels
J.Pietschmann wrote: Steven Noels wrote: Voting should be made a requirement for _releases_ IMHO. ...and other "important decisions", subject to "common sense". For example: - major non-incremental design changes if consensus exist: dunnow otherwise: +0.5 is voting a method of gauging consensu

Re: Revisions to xml.apache.org charter

2003-03-13 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, J.Pietschmann wrote: > Indeed, given that there are usually quite a few "inactive" committers > for a specific (sub-)project. It might be necessary to keep records of > committers currently eligible for 2/3 majorities Hmm - that would be rather hard, and perhaps have to

Re: Revisions to xml.apache.org charter

2003-03-13 Thread J.Pietschmann
Steven Noels wrote: Voting should be made a requirement for _releases_ IMHO. ...and other "important decisions", subject to "common sense". For example: - major non-incremental design changes - branching - public API changes, in particular if other Apache projects are known to be affected (should

Re: Revisions to xml.apache.org charter

2003-03-13 Thread J.Pietschmann
Peter B. West wrote: a two-thirds majority of committers. Again, which committers? Indeed, given that there are usually quite a few "inactive" committers for a specific (sub-)project. It might be necessary to keep records of committers currently eligible for 2/3 majorities J.Pietschmann --

Re: Revisions to xml.apache.org charter

2003-03-13 Thread Steven Noels
Ted Leung wrote: so please comment, etc. Inline (just a few of them). --- xml.apache.org is a collaborative software development project dedicated to providing robust, full-featured, commercial-quality, and freely available XML support on a wide variety of plat

Re: Revisions to xml.apache.org charter

2003-03-13 Thread Berin Lautenbach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ted, Comments/thoughts in-line. Take with grain of salt. I haven't attempted to create new text, and am not sure what process you want to follow to evolve this document to final form. Cheers, ~Berin Ted Leung wrote: | Hi All, | | | | Here is a fi

Re: Revisions to xml.apache.org charter

2003-03-12 Thread Peter B. West
Ted, See comments below. Ted Leung wrote: ... HISTORY === This project was established under the direction of the newly-formed Apache Software Foundation in August 1999 to facilitate joint open-source development. I would like to see the terms 'contributor', 'developer' and 'committe