Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
FYI I renamed the proposal fleece and here is the proposal: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Fleece. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 14:27 GMT+02:00 Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com: Ok, removed antlr, think few things need review/test/etc (typically unicode is not yet supported) but at least DoS attacks are controlled normally. Next step for me: get an idea of the performances Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 13:13 GMT+02:00 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: On 1 Jun 2014, at 12:21, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi Christian, updated the proposal page according to your comments (added you as mentor for now and merged initial/core dev parts). Will try to import noggit parser (actually I was in thr process of removing antlr which was mainly here to get started quickly so if noggit avoids me to rewrite a new state machine it will be very nice) I keep fingers crossed. Not sure if it will help you though, but it is really fast in what it does. Cheers Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 10:46 GMT+02:00 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: On 1 Jun 2014, at 0:31, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, About the name any proposition is welcomed. I though to brace BTW. Apache Argonaut sounds good but I assume that name is in common use so perhaps Argus (the ship builder), or perhaps Fleece? I actually once wrote an article called Json and the golden fleece (just in german), so I would like this reference too. I was a little bit involved in that JSR (not very active to be honest) and developed a JSON component myself before the JSR was in the making, so I have an interest in it. Unfortunately I have very limited time to help actively. Anyway if there is trouble to finding an additional mentor, I will step up. On the proposal i see two sections called initial committers and one core developer. I would like to suggest to remove the section core developer and on of the initial committers blocks. I would like to also suggest to look into Noggit: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/labs/noggit/ which is more or less used in a later form in Solr. As sponsoring entity it might even make sense to look at Apache Commons, as the component will be small. It would also relax the naming problem, as it would most likely be named Apache Commons Json then. Cheers, Christian Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
On Tuesday, June 3, 2014, Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com wrote: FYI I renamed the proposal fleece and here is the proposal: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Fleece. We'll be looking forward to those free Apache Fleece vests at the next ApacheCon ;-) -Bertrand
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
Later On 3 Òkúdu 26 Heisei, at 3:47 Ọ̀sán, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tuesday, June 3, 2014, Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com wrote: FYI I renamed the proposal fleece and here is the proposal: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Fleece. We'll be looking forward to those free Apache Fleece vests at the next ApacheCon ;-) -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
If Fleece is decided as the name, you can probably remove or edit the “Project Name” section on the proposal. Suresh On Jun 3, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com wrote: FYI I renamed the proposal fleece and here is the proposal: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Fleece. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 14:27 GMT+02:00 Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com: Ok, removed antlr, think few things need review/test/etc (typically unicode is not yet supported) but at least DoS attacks are controlled normally. Next step for me: get an idea of the performances Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 13:13 GMT+02:00 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: On 1 Jun 2014, at 12:21, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi Christian, updated the proposal page according to your comments (added you as mentor for now and merged initial/core dev parts). Will try to import noggit parser (actually I was in thr process of removing antlr which was mainly here to get started quickly so if noggit avoids me to rewrite a new state machine it will be very nice) I keep fingers crossed. Not sure if it will help you though, but it is really fast in what it does. Cheers Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 10:46 GMT+02:00 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: On 1 Jun 2014, at 0:31, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, About the name any proposition is welcomed. I though to brace BTW. Apache Argonaut sounds good but I assume that name is in common use so perhaps Argus (the ship builder), or perhaps Fleece? I actually once wrote an article called Json and the golden fleece (just in german), so I would like this reference too. I was a little bit involved in that JSR (not very active to be honest) and developed a JSON component myself before the JSR was in the making, so I have an interest in it. Unfortunately I have very limited time to help actively. Anyway if there is trouble to finding an additional mentor, I will step up. On the proposal i see two sections called initial committers and one core developer. I would like to suggest to remove the section core developer and on of the initial committers blocks. I would like to also suggest to look into Noggit: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/labs/noggit/ which is more or less used in a later form in Solr. As sponsoring entity it might even make sense to look at Apache Commons, as the component will be small. It would also relax the naming problem, as it would most likely be named Apache Commons Json then. Cheers, Christian Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
Hi Should be ok now Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-03 15:17 GMT+02:00 Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org: If Fleece is decided as the name, you can probably remove or edit the “Project Name” section on the proposal. Suresh On Jun 3, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com wrote: FYI I renamed the proposal fleece and here is the proposal: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Fleece. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 14:27 GMT+02:00 Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com: Ok, removed antlr, think few things need review/test/etc (typically unicode is not yet supported) but at least DoS attacks are controlled normally. Next step for me: get an idea of the performances Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 13:13 GMT+02:00 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: On 1 Jun 2014, at 12:21, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi Christian, updated the proposal page according to your comments (added you as mentor for now and merged initial/core dev parts). Will try to import noggit parser (actually I was in thr process of removing antlr which was mainly here to get started quickly so if noggit avoids me to rewrite a new state machine it will be very nice) I keep fingers crossed. Not sure if it will help you though, but it is really fast in what it does. Cheers Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 10:46 GMT+02:00 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: On 1 Jun 2014, at 0:31, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, About the name any proposition is welcomed. I though to brace BTW. Apache Argonaut sounds good but I assume that name is in common use so perhaps Argus (the ship builder), or perhaps Fleece? I actually once wrote an article called Json and the golden fleece (just in german), so I would like this reference too. I was a little bit involved in that JSR (not very active to be honest) and developed a JSON component myself before the JSR was in the making, so I have an interest in it. Unfortunately I have very limited time to help actively. Anyway if there is trouble to finding an additional mentor, I will step up. On the proposal i see two sections called initial committers and one core developer. I would like to suggest to remove the section core developer and on of the initial committers blocks. I would like to also suggest to look into Noggit: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/labs/noggit/ which is more or less used in a later form in Solr. As sponsoring entity it might even make sense to look at Apache Commons, as the component will be small. It would also relax the naming problem, as it would most likely be named Apache Commons Json then. Cheers, Christian Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
I’m pretty sure this is something CXF would be interested in as well. We currently have some level of JSR-353 support in CXF, but it’s currently just using the reference implementation [1]. Having an alternative implementation that we can use to make sure we aren’t tied specifically to the bugs/issues in one particular implementation would be a good thing. If you need another mentor, I’d be happy to help out. Dan [1] http://cxf.apache.org/docs/jax-rs-data-bindings.html#JAX-RSDataBindings-JSR-353JSONProcessing On Jun 3, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com wrote: FYI I renamed the proposal fleece and here is the proposal: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Fleece. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 14:27 GMT+02:00 Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com: Ok, removed antlr, think few things need review/test/etc (typically unicode is not yet supported) but at least DoS attacks are controlled normally. Next step for me: get an idea of the performances Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 13:13 GMT+02:00 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: On 1 Jun 2014, at 12:21, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi Christian, updated the proposal page according to your comments (added you as mentor for now and merged initial/core dev parts). Will try to import noggit parser (actually I was in thr process of removing antlr which was mainly here to get started quickly so if noggit avoids me to rewrite a new state machine it will be very nice) I keep fingers crossed. Not sure if it will help you though, but it is really fast in what it does. Cheers Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 10:46 GMT+02:00 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: On 1 Jun 2014, at 0:31, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, About the name any proposition is welcomed. I though to brace BTW. Apache Argonaut sounds good but I assume that name is in common use so perhaps Argus (the ship builder), or perhaps Fleece? I actually once wrote an article called Json and the golden fleece (just in german), so I would like this reference too. I was a little bit involved in that JSR (not very active to be honest) and developed a JSON component myself before the JSR was in the making, so I have an interest in it. Unfortunately I have very limited time to help actively. Anyway if there is trouble to finding an additional mentor, I will step up. On the proposal i see two sections called initial committers and one core developer. I would like to suggest to remove the section core developer and on of the initial committers blocks. I would like to also suggest to look into Noggit: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/labs/noggit/ which is more or less used in a later form in Solr. As sponsoring entity it might even make sense to look at Apache Commons, as the component will be small. It would also relax the naming problem, as it would most likely be named Apache Commons Json then. Cheers, Christian Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
I think building up these downstream dependencies on Fleece is essential for the Fleece's success. Marlon On 6/3/14 2:44 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote: I’m pretty sure this is something CXF would be interested in as well. We currently have some level of JSR-353 support in CXF, but it’s currently just using the reference implementation [1]. Having an alternative implementation that we can use to make sure we aren’t tied specifically to the bugs/issues in one particular implementation would be a good thing. If you need another mentor, I’d be happy to help out. Dan [1] http://cxf.apache.org/docs/jax-rs-data-bindings.html#JAX-RSDataBindings-JSR-353JSONProcessing On Jun 3, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com wrote: FYI I renamed the proposal fleece and here is the proposal: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Fleece. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 14:27 GMT+02:00 Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com: Ok, removed antlr, think few things need review/test/etc (typically unicode is not yet supported) but at least DoS attacks are controlled normally. Next step for me: get an idea of the performances Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 13:13 GMT+02:00 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: On 1 Jun 2014, at 12:21, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi Christian, updated the proposal page according to your comments (added you as mentor for now and merged initial/core dev parts). Will try to import noggit parser (actually I was in thr process of removing antlr which was mainly here to get started quickly so if noggit avoids me to rewrite a new state machine it will be very nice) I keep fingers crossed. Not sure if it will help you though, but it is really fast in what it does. Cheers Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 10:46 GMT+02:00 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: On 1 Jun 2014, at 0:31, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, About the name any proposition is welcomed. I though to brace BTW. Apache Argonaut sounds good but I assume that name is in common use so perhaps Argus (the ship builder), or perhaps Fleece? I actually once wrote an article called Json and the golden fleece (just in german), so I would like this reference too. I was a little bit involved in that JSR (not very active to be honest) and developed a JSON component myself before the JSR was in the making, so I have an interest in it. Unfortunately I have very limited time to help actively. Anyway if there is trouble to finding an additional mentor, I will step up. On the proposal i see two sections called initial committers and one core developer. I would like to suggest to remove the section core developer and on of the initial committers blocks. I would like to also suggest to look into Noggit: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/labs/noggit/ which is more or less used in a later form in Solr. As sponsoring entity it might even make sense to look at Apache Commons, as the component will be small. It would also relax the naming problem, as it would most likely be named Apache Commons Json then. Cheers, Christian Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Started to write a proposal to create a project to implement JSR-353 (json API). Here is the current proposal (draft): https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JsonImpl It needs some mentors so if you are motivated you know what to do ;). Any feedbacks welcomed too. Glad to see this is coming to Apache ! Wearing my Axis2 hat, Axis2 uses Jettison and Gson for JSON support and JSR-353 based implementation is much needed if you prefer add Axis2 also as an user for this project. I would like to join and contribute to this project please include me. Thanks ! Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau -- Sagara Gunathunga Blog - http://ssagara.blogspot.com Web - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
Hello Sagara, Updated, thanks. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 9:06 GMT+02:00 Sagara Gunathunga sagara.gunathu...@gmail.com: On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Started to write a proposal to create a project to implement JSR-353 (json API). Here is the current proposal (draft): https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JsonImpl It needs some mentors so if you are motivated you know what to do ;). Any feedbacks welcomed too. Glad to see this is coming to Apache ! Wearing my Axis2 hat, Axis2 uses Jettison and Gson for JSON support and JSR-353 based implementation is much needed if you prefer add Axis2 also as an user for this project. I would like to join and contribute to this project please include me. Thanks ! Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau -- Sagara Gunathunga Blog - http://ssagara.blogspot.com Web - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 3:38 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, The link is the right one ( https://github.com/rmannibucau/json-impl ). Created it yesterday so community is small ATM ;). Initial developpers are the one intended to get perms on the asf repo, did I misunderstand? If we make it a subproject of G or TomEE this will never be used outside of these containers which would be sad. Take for instance specs jar of geronimo, they are only used by very few people but actually could be used by all EE users. I'm agree with Romain on above comment, 1.) In my POV JSON processing became/becoming a core technology for Java ( both EE and SE) not just limited to EE servers hence maintaining as a separate project with less dependencies ( right now it's 1 - AntLR) greatly improve chance of wide adoption. 2.) Right now main focus is on JSON-P spec but there is an indication about JSON-B ( Java API for JSON Binding ) spec is also coming, probably this project can incorporate JSON-B as well in future. In my POV this should be the JSON related project at Apache. 3.) Current community size is a matter but I believe that is why project founders bring this project to Apache incubator attract and build healthy community. 4.) Having said above we always have a chance to determine the project future during the graduation whether project make a TLP or will be a part of existing TLP. In my POV graduation is the best check point for this than incubator entrance. Thanks ! I expect more or less the same level of activatity as on bval, ie active when a new spec is here (if we exclude bootstrap) and maintenance period without that much activity. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-05-31 23:56 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com: Romain, Can you add a link to the existing github sources? Or is the one mentioned later on what's intended? Doesn't seem like a big community thus far, but more on that... The current code base (if accurate) only has a single contributor yet you list 5 initial developers. I'll also point out that the developers are split between Tomitribe, Irianian (Maybe I need to look at one of Gerhard's recent emails to make sure I spelt that right) and Independent. You also note that it's not going to be very active. Should this perhaps be a sub-project of TomEE or Geronimo rather than its own project? On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Justing, thanks for the catch! I updated the page and added yourself as Mentor. About the name any proposition is welcomed. I though to brace BTW. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-05-31 23:27 GMT+02:00 Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com: Hi, Here is the current proposal (draft): https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JsonImpl There's a minor copy/paste error as the proposal still contains a reference to Delta Spike. The following JIRA project would be required to track issues for the Apache DeltaSpike project: It needs some mentors so if you are motivated you know what to do ;). I would be interested in being a mentor. I'm on the Flex PMC, Incubator PMC and have good understating of incubation and release processes. This would be my first time being a mentor, but given the number of ASF members involved in the project, I can't imaging that mentoring it would be a difficult task. Any feedbacks welcomed too. Choosing a name up front would mean less work that need to be done later. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Sagara Gunathunga Blog - http://ssagara.blogspot.com Web - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
On 1 Jun 2014, at 0:31, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, About the name any proposition is welcomed. I though to brace BTW. Apache Argonaut sounds good but I assume that name is in common use so perhaps Argus (the ship builder), or perhaps Fleece? I actually once wrote an article called Json and the golden fleece (just in german), so I would like this reference too. I was a little bit involved in that JSR (not very active to be honest) and developed a JSON component myself before the JSR was in the making, so I have an interest in it. Unfortunately I have very limited time to help actively. Anyway if there is trouble to finding an additional mentor, I will step up. On the proposal i see two sections called initial committers and one core developer. I would like to suggest to remove the section core developer and on of the initial committers blocks. I would like to also suggest to look into Noggit: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/labs/noggit/ which is more or less used in a later form in Solr. As sponsoring entity it might even make sense to look at Apache Commons, as the component will be small. It would also relax the naming problem, as it would most likely be named Apache Commons Json then. Cheers, Christian Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
Hi Christian, updated the proposal page according to your comments (added you as mentor for now and merged initial/core dev parts). Will try to import noggit parser (actually I was in thr process of removing antlr which was mainly here to get started quickly so if noggit avoids me to rewrite a new state machine it will be very nice) Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 10:46 GMT+02:00 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: On 1 Jun 2014, at 0:31, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, About the name any proposition is welcomed. I though to brace BTW. Apache Argonaut sounds good but I assume that name is in common use so perhaps Argus (the ship builder), or perhaps Fleece? I actually once wrote an article called Json and the golden fleece (just in german), so I would like this reference too. I was a little bit involved in that JSR (not very active to be honest) and developed a JSON component myself before the JSR was in the making, so I have an interest in it. Unfortunately I have very limited time to help actively. Anyway if there is trouble to finding an additional mentor, I will step up. On the proposal i see two sections called initial committers and one core developer. I would like to suggest to remove the section core developer and on of the initial committers blocks. I would like to also suggest to look into Noggit: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/labs/noggit/ which is more or less used in a later form in Solr. As sponsoring entity it might even make sense to look at Apache Commons, as the component will be small. It would also relax the naming problem, as it would most likely be named Apache Commons Json then. Cheers, Christian Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
Hi! commons might be an option. But we still would need to go through the incubator. Otoh Commons proved not to be very JSR friendly to be honest. We had this discussion for BVal etc, and recent JCS discussions where also not in favour for it. I'd be happy to host it over there though. Christian, txs for bringing up noggit. Didn't even know it. How far is it away from the SOLR version? And to which degree does it cover JSON? Anyone who knows the SOLR code think we could split this out form SOLR if this version is better? Romains code is pretty good already. But it uses antlr for parsing. Not sure how much this is a blocker when it comes to performance tuning and cutting down the size of the JAR yet. LieGrue, strub On Sunday, 1 June 2014, 10:47, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 Jun 2014, at 0:31, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, About the name any proposition is welcomed. I though to brace BTW. Apache Argonaut sounds good but I assume that name is in common use so perhaps Argus (the ship builder), or perhaps Fleece? I actually once wrote an article called Json and the golden fleece (just in german), so I would like this reference too. I was a little bit involved in that JSR (not very active to be honest) and developed a JSON component myself before the JSR was in the making, so I have an interest in it. Unfortunately I have very limited time to help actively. Anyway if there is trouble to finding an additional mentor, I will step up. On the proposal i see two sections called initial committers and one core developer. I would like to suggest to remove the section core developer and on of the initial committers blocks. I would like to also suggest to look into Noggit: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/labs/noggit/ which is more or less used in a later form in Solr. As sponsoring entity it might even make sense to look at Apache Commons, as the component will be small. It would also relax the naming problem, as it would most likely be named Apache Commons Json then. Cheers, Christian Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
Hi, commons might be an option. But we still would need to go through the incubator. Otoh Commons proved not to be very JSR friendly to be honest. We had this discussion for BVal etc, and recent JCS discussions where also not in favour for it. I'd be happy to host it over there though. there is no rush luckily. But you are right that Commons is not always the best option. And if we have a big community and maybe later other json stuff at hand, it makes sense to aim at tld. Christian, txs for bringing up noggit. Didn't even know it. How far is it away from the SOLR version? And to which degree does it cover JSON? Anyone who knows the SOLR code think we could split this out form SOLR if this version is better? here is the latest stable: https://github.com/yonik/noggit Looking at Solrs code here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/dev/trunk/solr/core/src/java/org/apache/solr/handler/loader/JsonLoader.java it seems like it is using the latest stable (or one of them) - I concluded that by looking at the namespace. Noggits License is AL2.0, so it should be no problem to use some of the code. However i once digged through it, while i wrote my own small lib: https://github.com/grobmeier/jjson It turned out that it has a great approach, but wasn't that easy to hack. That's why I stopped merging the two code bases and mine stayed pretty dump. Romains code is pretty good already. But it uses antlr for parsing. Not sure how much this is a blocker when it comes to performance tuning and cutting down the size of the JAR yet. Actually I don't like antlr that much and would love to see it go. I totally enjoy json libs with zero dependencies. Cheers Christian LieGrue, strub On Sunday, 1 June 2014, 10:47, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 Jun 2014, at 0:31, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, About the name any proposition is welcomed. I though to brace BTW. Apache Argonaut sounds good but I assume that name is in common use so perhaps Argus (the ship builder), or perhaps Fleece? I actually once wrote an article called Json and the golden fleece (just in german), so I would like this reference too. I was a little bit involved in that JSR (not very active to be honest) and developed a JSON component myself before the JSR was in the making, so I have an interest in it. Unfortunately I have very limited time to help actively. Anyway if there is trouble to finding an additional mentor, I will step up. On the proposal i see two sections called initial committers and one core developer. I would like to suggest to remove the section core developer and on of the initial committers blocks. I would like to also suggest to look into Noggit: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/labs/noggit/ which is more or less used in a later form in Solr. As sponsoring entity it might even make sense to look at Apache Commons, as the component will be small. It would also relax the naming problem, as it would most likely be named Apache Commons Json then. Cheers, Christian Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
On 1 Jun 2014, at 12:21, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi Christian, updated the proposal page according to your comments (added you as mentor for now and merged initial/core dev parts). Will try to import noggit parser (actually I was in thr process of removing antlr which was mainly here to get started quickly so if noggit avoids me to rewrite a new state machine it will be very nice) I keep fingers crossed. Not sure if it will help you though, but it is really fast in what it does. Cheers Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 10:46 GMT+02:00 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: On 1 Jun 2014, at 0:31, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, About the name any proposition is welcomed. I though to brace BTW. Apache Argonaut sounds good but I assume that name is in common use so perhaps Argus (the ship builder), or perhaps Fleece? I actually once wrote an article called Json and the golden fleece (just in german), so I would like this reference too. I was a little bit involved in that JSR (not very active to be honest) and developed a JSON component myself before the JSR was in the making, so I have an interest in it. Unfortunately I have very limited time to help actively. Anyway if there is trouble to finding an additional mentor, I will step up. On the proposal i see two sections called initial committers and one core developer. I would like to suggest to remove the section core developer and on of the initial committers blocks. I would like to also suggest to look into Noggit: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/labs/noggit/ which is more or less used in a later form in Solr. As sponsoring entity it might even make sense to look at Apache Commons, as the component will be small. It would also relax the naming problem, as it would most likely be named Apache Commons Json then. Cheers, Christian Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
Ok, removed antlr, think few things need review/test/etc (typically unicode is not yet supported) but at least DoS attacks are controlled normally. Next step for me: get an idea of the performances Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 13:13 GMT+02:00 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: On 1 Jun 2014, at 12:21, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi Christian, updated the proposal page according to your comments (added you as mentor for now and merged initial/core dev parts). Will try to import noggit parser (actually I was in thr process of removing antlr which was mainly here to get started quickly so if noggit avoids me to rewrite a new state machine it will be very nice) I keep fingers crossed. Not sure if it will help you though, but it is really fast in what it does. Cheers Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-06-01 10:46 GMT+02:00 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com: On 1 Jun 2014, at 0:31, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, About the name any proposition is welcomed. I though to brace BTW. Apache Argonaut sounds good but I assume that name is in common use so perhaps Argus (the ship builder), or perhaps Fleece? I actually once wrote an article called Json and the golden fleece (just in german), so I would like this reference too. I was a little bit involved in that JSR (not very active to be honest) and developed a JSON component myself before the JSR was in the making, so I have an interest in it. Unfortunately I have very limited time to help actively. Anyway if there is trouble to finding an additional mentor, I will step up. On the proposal i see two sections called initial committers and one core developer. I would like to suggest to remove the section core developer and on of the initial committers blocks. I would like to also suggest to look into Noggit: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/labs/noggit/ which is more or less used in a later form in Solr. As sponsoring entity it might even make sense to look at Apache Commons, as the component will be small. It would also relax the naming problem, as it would most likely be named Apache Commons Json then. Cheers, Christian Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL @grobmeier GPG: 0xA5CC90DB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
Hi, Here is the current proposal (draft): https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JsonImpl There's a minor copy/paste error as the proposal still contains a reference to Delta Spike. The following JIRA project would be required to track issues for the Apache DeltaSpike project: It needs some mentors so if you are motivated you know what to do ;). I would be interested in being a mentor. I'm on the Flex PMC, Incubator PMC and have good understating of incubation and release processes. This would be my first time being a mentor, but given the number of ASF members involved in the project, I can't imaging that mentoring it would be a difficult task. Any feedbacks welcomed too. Choosing a name up front would mean less work that need to be done later. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
Hi Justing, thanks for the catch! I updated the page and added yourself as Mentor. About the name any proposition is welcomed. I though to brace BTW. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-05-31 23:27 GMT+02:00 Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com: Hi, Here is the current proposal (draft): https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JsonImpl There's a minor copy/paste error as the proposal still contains a reference to Delta Spike. The following JIRA project would be required to track issues for the Apache DeltaSpike project: It needs some mentors so if you are motivated you know what to do ;). I would be interested in being a mentor. I'm on the Flex PMC, Incubator PMC and have good understating of incubation and release processes. This would be my first time being a mentor, but given the number of ASF members involved in the project, I can't imaging that mentoring it would be a difficult task. Any feedbacks welcomed too. Choosing a name up front would mean less work that need to be done later. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
Romain, Can you add a link to the existing github sources? Or is the one mentioned later on what's intended? Doesn't seem like a big community thus far, but more on that... The current code base (if accurate) only has a single contributor yet you list 5 initial developers. I'll also point out that the developers are split between Tomitribe, Irianian (Maybe I need to look at one of Gerhard's recent emails to make sure I spelt that right) and Independent. You also note that it's not going to be very active. Should this perhaps be a sub-project of TomEE or Geronimo rather than its own project? On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Justing, thanks for the catch! I updated the page and added yourself as Mentor. About the name any proposition is welcomed. I though to brace BTW. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-05-31 23:27 GMT+02:00 Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com: Hi, Here is the current proposal (draft): https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JsonImpl There's a minor copy/paste error as the proposal still contains a reference to Delta Spike. The following JIRA project would be required to track issues for the Apache DeltaSpike project: It needs some mentors so if you are motivated you know what to do ;). I would be interested in being a mentor. I'm on the Flex PMC, Incubator PMC and have good understating of incubation and release processes. This would be my first time being a mentor, but given the number of ASF members involved in the project, I can't imaging that mentoring it would be a difficult task. Any feedbacks welcomed too. Choosing a name up front would mean less work that need to be done later. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
Hi John, The link is the right one ( https://github.com/rmannibucau/json-impl ). Created it yesterday so community is small ATM ;). Initial developpers are the one intended to get perms on the asf repo, did I misunderstand? If we make it a subproject of G or TomEE this will never be used outside of these containers which would be sad. Take for instance specs jar of geronimo, they are only used by very few people but actually could be used by all EE users. I expect more or less the same level of activatity as on bval, ie active when a new spec is here (if we exclude bootstrap) and maintenance period without that much activity. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-05-31 23:56 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com: Romain, Can you add a link to the existing github sources? Or is the one mentioned later on what's intended? Doesn't seem like a big community thus far, but more on that... The current code base (if accurate) only has a single contributor yet you list 5 initial developers. I'll also point out that the developers are split between Tomitribe, Irianian (Maybe I need to look at one of Gerhard's recent emails to make sure I spelt that right) and Independent. You also note that it's not going to be very active. Should this perhaps be a sub-project of TomEE or Geronimo rather than its own project? On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Justing, thanks for the catch! I updated the page and added yourself as Mentor. About the name any proposition is welcomed. I though to brace BTW. Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2014-05-31 23:27 GMT+02:00 Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com: Hi, Here is the current proposal (draft): https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JsonImpl There's a minor copy/paste error as the proposal still contains a reference to Delta Spike. The following JIRA project would be required to track issues for the Apache DeltaSpike project: It needs some mentors so if you are motivated you know what to do ;). I would be interested in being a mentor. I'm on the Flex PMC, Incubator PMC and have good understating of incubation and release processes. This would be my first time being a mentor, but given the number of ASF members involved in the project, I can't imaging that mentoring it would be a difficult task. Any feedbacks welcomed too. Choosing a name up front would mean less work that need to be done later. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] json as new incubator project
Hi, About the name any proposition is welcomed. I though to brace BTW. Apache Argonaut sounds good but I assume that name is in common use so perhaps Argus (the ship builder), or perhaps Fleece? Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
