Heads Up: I've changed the redirects in www.apache.org/dist/jakarta

2002-12-05 Thread Stefan Bodewig
Hi all, in the process of getting our releases mirrorable (more easily), I've changed the .htaccess file that redirects all requests to www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/* to jakarta.apache.org/builds/* so that each project has now a redirect line of its own. I've checked that all links on the Jakarta

Re: The organization of xml.apache.org

2002-12-05 Thread Sam Ruby
Ted Leung wrote: Jeff's question below about the legal relevance of PMC's is a good one. Does someone from the board have a definitive answer for this? IANAL. The simplest and most direct answer is that if the PMCs which were set up for this expressed purpose can not demonstrate that they

RE: Short Apache licence for source files

2002-12-05 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 16:14 04.12.2002 -0800, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: In the mean time, I believe all Apache projects should treat the Board member comments quoted above and elsewhere in this thread (and taken out of much larger discussions) as authoritative direction to ASF committers that we should use the

RE: velocity lovers...

2002-12-05 Thread Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
-Mensaje original- De: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: jueves 5 de diciembre de 2002 1:38 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: velocity lovers... I'm completely amazed and disappointed that Sun is spending so much time, energy and money towards creating

Making distributions mirrorable

2002-12-05 Thread Stefan Bodewig
Hi, to get some load off of the apache.org machines and to save network bandwidth, we should try to get as many downloads spread to the mirrors as possible. Right now, most mirrors do not carry Jakarta distributions at all as our current directory layout forces them to use complicated rsync

Re: Short Apache licence for source files

2002-12-05 Thread Sam Ruby
Ceki Gülcü wrote: I thought that we were also supposed and even encouraged to think for ourselves. No one has suggested to defy the board. I resent the shut- -up-and-do-as-you-are-told attitude which does not characterize you, the ASF, nor anyone on the board. What is going on here? Would a

Re: Short Apache licence for source files

2002-12-05 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 5/12/02 4:04 am, in article 003b01c29c13$6dd962b0$927ba8c0@ROSENGARDEN, Lawrence E. Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Current drafts of the 2.0 license include a solution to this issue, plus a whole bunch of other niceties. Discussions of the new license are happening on a mailing list

Re: velocity lovers...

2002-12-05 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Wow. Java Server Faces really sucks ass. Much more than I could have ever imagined. No wonder I didn't bother looking at it before. What a confusing, over engineered, under thought out way to do things! I'm really surprised that Sun thinks that anyone is going to use this crap and actually

Re: Short Apache licence for source files

2002-12-05 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 05:52 05.12.2002 -0500, Sam Ruby wrote: Ceki Gülcü wrote: Would a shut-up-and-think-for-yourself be any better? It seems to me that you are seeking an explicit sanction for the practice of using the current license by reference. Yes, shut-up-and-think-for-yourself would be better assuming

RE: Short Apache licence for source files

2002-12-05 Thread James Taylor
I thought that we were also supposed and even encouraged to think for ourselves. No one has suggested to defy the board. I resent the shut- -up-and-do-as-you-are-told attitude which does not characterize you, the ASF, nor anyone on the board. What is going on here? Indeed, this attitude is

Re: velocity lovers...

2002-12-05 Thread Howard M. Lewis Ship
What's troublesome is that the EA they leaked makes these bold claims as the end-all of Java web application development ... yet the demos they provided were creaky, poorly executing and poorly written (also, pretty darn ugly!) Some of the things they want to do are very ambitious, but the APIs

A suggestion for Scarab

2002-12-05 Thread O'brien, Tim
What is nice about Apache is the transparency of the process, you don't have to be a member of some specially selected club to see the process of development. There is anonymous access to the CVS repositories and anyone can sign on to the mailing lists. In effect, no one has to approve a request

Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-05 Thread Bob Johnson
Thanks Andy for the links. The Question I have for everybody here is does anyone have any interest in Porting any of the other jakarta projects to C# so that they may be able to run on Mono/Linux/windows .Net/Micorsoft ? I have been experimenting with Mono/MCS Microsoft/CSC for a few

RE: Making distributions mirrorable

2002-12-05 Thread Scott Sanders
to get some load off of the apache.org machines and to save network bandwidth, we should try to get as many downloads spread to the mirrors as possible. Right now, most mirrors do not carry Jakarta distributions at all as our current directory layout forces them to use complicated rsync

Re: A suggestion for Scarab

2002-12-05 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2002/12/5 6:18 AM, O'brien, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone put a note on that Login pages of Scarab that lets people know what the roles mean (what is a Partner, do we ever expect to have a Partner?), and that if one requests Developer role in any project that will be granted

Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-05 Thread mohammad nabil
hi all, i'm really so sad for this The Question I have for everybody here is does anyone have any interest in Porting any of the other jakarta projects to C# so that they may be able to run on Mono/Linux/windows .Net/Micorsoft ? what this sppose to mean

Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-05 Thread James Taylor
The Question I have for everybody here is does anyone have any interest in Porting any of the other jakarta projects to C# so that they may be able to run on Mono/Linux/windows .Net/Micorsoft ? what this sppose to mean ppl, why want you to support

Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-05 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 6/12/02 1:00 James Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Question I have for everybody here is does anyone have any interest in Porting any of the other jakarta projects to C# so that they may be able to run on Mono/Linux/windows .Net/Micorsoft ? what this sppose to