Robert Simmons typed the following on 03:20 24/01/2003 +0100
I say that forum software would be useful because I am in three mailing
lists at apache that I use in order to ask questions.
Tomcat, Cocoon and this one. as a result i get an enormous amount of mail.
Aout 95% of it is irrelevant to
Very well said!
Mvgr,
Martin
On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 10:47, Kief Morris wrote:
So, read the archive. The great thing about mailing lists is ithey're open - anyone
who wants to can put whatever interface they like onto it - web, news, whatever.
Don't like the search engine? What search engine
On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 04:47, Kief Morris wrote:
So, read the archive. The great thing about mailing lists is ithey're open - anyone
who wants to can put whatever interface they like onto it - web, news, whatever.
Don't like the search engine? What search engine would you use if it was a
forum?
and
mail together inconvenient). My $.02, --DD
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From: Kief Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:47 AM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: Re: Forum Software.
Robert Simmons typed the following on 03:20 24/01/2003 +0100
I say that forum software
Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
on 2003/1/22 12:28 PM, Santiago Gala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Install spamassassin and server-side filtering (with procmail, for
instance). ;-) (It saves me between 5 and 10 spam messages a day, quite
an effort just to download and delete).
You should be so lucky
This should be the Jakarta tagline.
I think use Jakarta dogmeet.
-doug ;]
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From: V. Cekvenich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 7:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Forum Software.
And I volunteer to write a Struts/Tomcat
As far as I could follow when it was set up, people were more keen on
the idea to get usefull threads up there (was on tomcat-dev afaik, but
Pier should probably remember it better), so they wouldn't be lost in
the somethimes enormous mails on the mailinglist and prevent most
commons questions
and that is annyoing.
-- Robert
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From: Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: Forum Software.
As far as I could follow when it was set up, people were more keen on
the idea to get
Try gmane
http://www.gmane.org/
then you can use your favourite news reader software to browse the already
existing mail lists - it supports replies too.
James
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From: Robert Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jakarta General
So the suggestion is:
All Users lists become forums.
Developer lists stay.
Only problem I see there is that Developers won't check the forums as much
as they should, unless the Users forum has a mail list interface.
Hen
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Robert Simmons wrote:
Well, once again I would
,
with a bit of work, dump all of the mailing list archives into the forum.
-- Robert
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From: Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: Forum Software.
So the suggestion is:
All
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From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:41 AM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: Re: Forum Software.
So the suggestion is:
All Users lists become forums.
Developer lists stay.
I will fight to my dying breath
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From: James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Jakarta General List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 6:02 PM
Subject: RE: Forum Software.
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From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:41 AM
To: Jakarta
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Well, once again I would like to bring up the concept of
forum software for Jakarta. The reason I am bringing it up
again is that mailing lists are intrusive and spammy.
Are they? I can't agree... I find them non-intrusive (my mail client
quiet files them in a folder) and non-spammy
I'm just a lurker, but:
-1
-Original Message-
From: Robert Simmons
To: Jakarta General
Sent: 1/22/2003 8:07 AM
Subject: Forum Software.
Well, once again I would like to bring up the concept of forum software
for Jakarta. The reason I am bringing it up again is that mailing lists
are
1) The vast majority of Jakarta users will not want to be
inundated with
email on a daily basis. They either wont bother to read it or will
unsubscribe. This will ultimately cost us hundreds of
potential developers
that might have wanted to work on a part of a project but
didn't know
James Mitchell wrote:
So the suggestion is:
All Users lists become forums.
Developer lists stay.
I will fight to my dying breath to make sure this DOESN'T happen (with
what little persuation I can muster). I have come to rely deeply on
these lists.
+1
I spend my offline hours
So the suggestion is:
All Users lists become forums.
Developer lists stay.
Only problem I see there is that Developers won't check the forums as much
as they should, unless the Users forum has a mail list interface.
I think this is a terrible idea, unless... we had a mail-news gateway
From: Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think this is a terrible idea, unless... we had a mail-news gateway
which would expose the lists as news groups.
They already are.
Point your browser/newsreader at news://news.gmane.org/
or in particular here and follow this thread in your news reader...
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Robert Simmons wrote:
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:52:12 +0100
From: Robert Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Forum Software.
Then how do you answer the following issues
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 10:13:20AM -0800, Costin Manolache wrote:
James Mitchell wrote:
So the suggestion is:
All Users lists become forums.
Developer lists stay.
I will fight to my dying breath to make sure this DOESN'T happen (with
what little persuation I can muster). I
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 10:13:20AM -0800, Costin Manolache wrote:
James Mitchell wrote:
So the suggestion is:
All Users lists become forums.
Developer lists stay.
I will fight to my dying breath to make sure this DOESN'T happen (with
what little persuation I can muster). I
Robert Simmons wrote:
Well, once again I would like to bring up the concept of forum software for Jakarta. The reason I am bringing it up again is that mailing lists are intrusive and spammy. Daily I get flooded with a ton of email that I have absolutely no interest in reading. However if I
Danny Angus wrote:
So the suggestion is:
All Users lists become forums.
Developer lists stay.
Only problem I see there is that Developers won't check the forums as much
as they should, unless the Users forum has a mail list interface.
I think this is a terrible idea, unless... we had a
Hi Robert,
First off, I can sympathize with your idea. Users being able to
casually drop in on a list with a minimum amount of hassle, e.g. not
subscribing for firing up a news reader, a web-based forum makes
sense.
However, as you can see, I don't think Apache will ever move away
from email
on 2003/1/22 12:28 PM, Santiago Gala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Install spamassassin and server-side filtering (with procmail, for
instance). ;-) (It saves me between 5 and 10 spam messages a day, quite
an effort just to download and delete).
You should be so lucky to only get 5-10 a day. I
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 01:08:56PM -0800, Randall J. Parr wrote:
It seems much of the reason people want to have forums is for the search
abilities. There are mail archives available but I must I agree many are
so limited in their search abilities and/or interface that they do not
help
Ick,
I don't want a forum unless it also is a mailing list
--
dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
Blog: http://www.freeroller.net/page/dion/Weblog
Work: http://www.multitask.com.au
Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 23/01/2003 03:41:27 AM:
So the suggestion is:
All
And I volunteer to write a Struts/Tomcat based one ( I have most of
functionality in basicPortal.com that uses a lot of jakarta project).
I think use Jakarta dogmeet.
.V
Jeff Schnitzer wrote:
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 11:15:22PM +, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
We have a license and an installation
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Costin Manolache wrote:
James Mitchell wrote:
So the suggestion is:
All Users lists become forums.
Developer lists stay.
I will fight to my dying breath to make sure this DOESN'T happen (with
what little persuation I can muster). I have come to rely
Brian Ewins wrote:
I'd disagree. I've yet to see a web based forum that has
searching/threading of discussions that are as good as what a mail
client can do, or one where I can have the entire forum offline with me
while I read/reply at my leisure.
I've setup many forum, and my preference
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:26, Robert Simmons wrote:
It would seem to me that the installation of a forum on the Jakarta site
would dramatically improve communication and the ability of the users to
collaborate on using and improving Jakarta software. PhpBB, for example, is
free and can be
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:26, Robert Simmons wrote:
It would seem to me that the installation of a forum on the Jakarta site
would dramatically improve communication and the ability
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:26, Robert Simmons wrote:
It would seem to me that the installation of a forum on the Jakarta site
would dramatically improve
.
--Robert
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To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Forum Software for Jakarta?
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:26, Robert Simmons wrote:
It would seem to me that the installation
on 2003/1/15 3:12 AM, Robert Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mailing lists are not as good as forums for communication.
--Robert
That is your opinion. They have worked well here since 1997. I hate the idea
that I would have to go check a website to read discussions and I hate the
text input
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Henri Yandell wrote:
IRC is good for all three, but lacks another important aspect,
persistence.
IRC Persistence:
http://irc.werken.com/channels/maven/
-Kurt
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Part of why I also hate wiki...same problem. I can have the website email me
when there is an update, but then that defeats the purpose.
Note the wiki isn't for that purpose or I'd agree with you. Its for
creating documentation (something we are still lacking in). I hate it
for the
Note the wiki isn't for that purpose or I'd agree with you. Its for
creating documentation (something we are still lacking in). I hate it
for the purpose of discussion, preferring mail lists for that, and the
talking points summed up (I hate searching through 6 years of archive to
I'm a
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