AW: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for advanced useflag-syntax

2006-08-04 Thread Noack, Sebastian
Today the solution would be to enable the kde, qt, qt3, qt4, gtk, etc. -useflag. But this solution is crappy, because of some ebuilds for These flags are crap at all. It already is crap that certain packages contain backend and frontends for several GUIs (more precisely: based on several

Re: [gentoo-dev] Treecleaners Recruiting

2006-08-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:48:01 -0400 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To briefly go over requirements you need to be able to: Speak English; Why? Surely read write is enough. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] www-apps/wordpress

2006-08-04 Thread Aaron Kulbe
I am currently the maintainer of WordPress. I have lost interest for the most part. I don't even use it on my machine any more, other than for testing to make sure builds work properly when a bump is required. I am not going to drop the ball, but if some other Gentoo dev is interested in taking

[gentoo-dev] www-apps/wordpress

2006-08-04 Thread Aaron Kulbe
I am the current maintainer of WordPress. Let's just say I've lost interest in maintaining it. At this point, I don't even use it any more, other than to test out new builds on my system, when a bump is required. I have switched over to another solution I prefer. I am not going to drop the ball

[gentoo-dev] Sowing the seeds of a warconfig tool

2006-08-04 Thread m h
Hey folks- (Shamelessly copied from my blog[1] )... I'm working on an open source tool for managing war files called warconfig (warconfig is/should be to wars as webappconfig is to php apps). We have a need for this at work. I have a pretty detailed write up here [2]. Warconfig is a tool for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for advanced useflag-syntax

2006-08-04 Thread Simon Stelling
Enrico Weigelt wrote: For example: mplayer It has it's gui-less player and an gtk-based frontend in one package. We should split this into two packages: mplayer and gmplayer. The chances to get this done in the upstream *before* some major distro like gentoo does the split by its own are quite

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages seeking maintainers

2006-08-04 Thread Christian Heim
On Friday 04 August 2006 04:43, Daniel Black wrote: I'm looking to offload the some packages to willing maintainers as I've really no interest in most of these. Most have no bugs outstanding. I mainly want to focus my efforts in other areas. Existing devs feel free to just reassign

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Curtis Napier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Ned Ludd wrote: On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 08:06 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: Ned Ludd wrote: On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 11:21 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for advanced useflag-syntax

2006-08-04 Thread Brian Harring
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 09:54:18AM +0200, Simon Stelling wrote: Enrico Weigelt wrote: For example: mplayer It has it's gui-less player and an gtk-based frontend in one package. We should split this into two packages: mplayer and gmplayer. The chances to get this done in the upstream *before*

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Curtis Napier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Curtis Napier wrote: Yes indeed it is impressive hardware at a pretty kickass facility :) I got to chat with the CEO of the company that donated that equipment and the wait was *more* than worth it. Once it's up and running our bugzilla will be

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages seeking maintainers

2006-08-04 Thread Lars Weiler
* Henrik Brix Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06/08/04 12:06 +0200]: As far as I know, gustavoz is also maintaining these... metadata says, that you and dragonheart are maintaining those. I already thought about taking them after your email some weeks ago, but saw, that dragonheart is

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-apps/wordpress

2006-08-04 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi, On 8/4/06, Aaron Kulbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am the current maintainer of WordPress. Let's just say I've lost interest in maintaining it. At this point, I don't even use it any more, other than to test out new builds on my system, when a bump is required. I have switched over to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Lance Albertson
Simon Stelling wrote: I'm not out to blame anybody, but if infra had communicated what the problem exactly is once they found it out, you wouldn't have ended up with all those I'm sick and tired of your we're working on it. Asking people for patience is easy, but it's hard to swallow when

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-04 Thread Duncan
Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:32:57 +0200: Alec Warner wrote: Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Duncan schrieb: How can it be too late? You sync during that 30 days it's masked, do an emerge --pretend --update world, and see that it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sowing the seeds of a warconfig tool

2006-08-04 Thread Renat Lumpau
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 01:48:50AM -0600, m h wrote: Hey folks- (Shamelessly copied from my blog[1] )... I'm working on an open source tool for managing war files called warconfig (warconfig is/should be to wars as webappconfig is to php apps). We have a need for this at work. I have a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Treecleaners Recruiting

2006-08-04 Thread Elfyn McBratney
On 04/08/06, Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:48:01 -0400 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To briefly go over requirements you need to be able to: Speak English; Why? Surely read write is enough. Probably for the kinky teleconferences Alec was planning

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?

2006-08-04 Thread Michael Weyershäuser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Gianelloni wrote: Well, we would hope that people using the package would file a bug, but this obviously doesn't always happen. A little request here: Please don't mass-file bugs with a single sentence like It works, please stabilise.. At

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Joshua Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lance Albertson wrote: Curtis Napier wrote: I got to chat with the CEO of the company that donated that equipment and the wait was *more* than worth it. Once it's up and running our bugzilla will be rock solid and fast fast fast fast fast for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Alec Warner
Here's the question, gnome's bugzilla has over twice as many bugs as we have, is quite speedy and doesn't seem to suffer from the OOM killers that our bugzilla has. So what's the difference? Did gnome just toss hardware at the problem to make it go away or have they done something to make

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sowing the seeds of a warconfig tool

2006-08-04 Thread m h
On 8/4/06, Renat Lumpau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 01:48:50AM -0600, m h wrote: Hey folks- (Shamelessly copied from my blog[1] )... I'm working on an open source tool for managing war files called warconfig (warconfig is/should be to wars as webappconfig is to php

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread kashani
Joshua Jackson wrote: Here's the question, gnome's bugzilla has over twice as many bugs as we have, is quite speedy and doesn't seem to suffer from the OOM killers that our bugzilla has. So what's the difference? Did gnome just toss hardware at the problem to make it go away or have they done

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Mike Doty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alec Warner wrote: In the new system the massive search query will run on the slave system, and it won't affect people making changes; hoewever there may be soem delay between data replication from the master to the slave(s), but that would be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 11:07:44AM -0700, kashani wrote: Another technique is to change high transaction tables to Innodb table format. Innodb is going to be roughly 30% slower than MyISAM for selects and take up much more space on disk approx 3-5x larger. However it has row

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Overlays: Status Report

2006-08-04 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi, Everything we had planned for Gentoo Overlays [1] phase 1 is now in place: * Active admin team * overlays.gentoo.org site, hosted on Gentoo infrastructure * Trac and Subversion for each overlay * Homepage aggregating the RSS feeds from each overlay * Developers and Users Guides

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Overlays: Status Report

2006-08-04 Thread Thomas Cort
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:02:15 +0100 Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we're ready to announce the service, but before we do, I thought it'd be a good idea to get feedback from the wider dev community. I've got an overlay on overlays.gentoo.org. It is working out very well. Thank

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Overlays: Status Report

2006-08-04 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Stuart Herbert wrote: * Developers and Users Guides online [2], [3] [3] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/usersguide.xml Without the s: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/userguide.xml -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Matthew Marlowe
iWho knows, maybe its worth finding another bug database app, or even be crazy and write our own for a long term solution. If we could get a license donated, my vote would be to switch to Atlassian Jira, http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira. It seems to be gaining mindshare rather

Gentoo's Social Contract Bugzilla (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August)

2006-08-04 Thread Peter Gordon
Matthew Marlowe wrote: If we could get a license donated, my vote would be to switch to Atlassian Jira, http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira. It seems to be gaining mindshare rather quickly, and the company I work for just shelled out $2,400 because they liked it so much more than

Re: Gentoo's Social Contract Bugzilla (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August)

2006-08-04 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:30:03 -0700 Peter Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Maybe it's just me, but I think that having such a core component of | the distribution be proprietary is in complete violation of Gentoo's | Social Contract[1] (if not the letter of it, then its spirit of | openness). It

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's Social Contract Bugzilla

2006-08-04 Thread Peter Gordon
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: In the past, it's been more or less agreed that it's not depending upon it if it uses an open data format... There was talk of moving the forums to proprietary software at one point, for example. I see. Thanks for the clarification, Ciaran. (Though as an aside, I'd like

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's Social Contract Bugzilla

2006-08-04 Thread Lance Albertson
Peter Gordon wrote: Matthew Marlowe wrote: If we could get a license donated, my vote would be to switch to Atlassian Jira, http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira. It seems to be gaining mindshare rather quickly, and the company I work for just shelled out $2,400 because they liked it so

[gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
I'd like to suggest we make FEATURES=test (and therefore USE=test) the default behaviour, rather than the opt-in we currently have. Far too many packages fail their test phase. Since we encourage users to set CFLAGS in ways that upstream may not have predicted, if upstream go to the trouble of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-04 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 02:11:58 +0200 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I'd like to suggest we make FEATURES=test (and therefore USE=test) the | default behaviour, rather than the opt-in we currently have. Far too | many packages fail their test phase. Paludis does this. It's nice in theory.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-04 Thread Alec Warner
Kevin F. Quinn wrote: I'd like to suggest we make FEATURES=test (and therefore USE=test) the default behaviour, rather than the opt-in we currently have. Far too many packages fail their test phase. Since we encourage users to set CFLAGS in ways that upstream may not have predicted, if

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's Social Contract Bugzilla

2006-08-04 Thread Matthew Marlowe
In the past, it's been more or less agreed that it's not depending upon it if it uses an open data format... There was talk of moving the forums to proprietary software at one point, for example. I see. Thanks for the clarification, Ciaran. (Though as an aside, I'd like to mention that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-04 Thread Joshua Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin F. Quinn wrote: I'd like to suggest we make FEATURES=test (and therefore USE=test) the default behaviour, rather than the opt-in we currently have. Far too many packages fail their test phase. Since we encourage users to set CFLAGS in ways

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-04 Thread Jakub Moc
Kevin F. Quinn wrote: I'd like to suggest we make FEATURES=test (and therefore USE=test) the default behaviour, rather than the opt-in we currently have. Far too many packages fail their test phase. Sure everyone likes to watch glibc failing? :P /joke Well, can't be done until bugs such as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-04 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Samstag, 5. August 2006 02:11 schrieb Kevin F. Quinn: At the very least, ebuild maintainers and ATs should be running with tests switched on. If the tests are known to fail then the ebuild can either RESTRICT=test, or just return successfully from src_test() where the test report is useful

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's Social Contract Bugzilla

2006-08-04 Thread Jakub Moc
Matthew Marlowe wrote: 3) Free license and apparently even some free support and infrastructure management for open-source projects. Apparently, they donated one of the bug db's that the apache software foundation is using, for instance. Free as in - BitKeeper? :P Nah, no need to repeat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's Social Contract Bugzilla

2006-08-04 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 02:29:05 +0200 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Matthew Marlowe wrote: | 3) Free license and apparently even some free support and | infrastructure management for open-source projects. Apparently, | they donated one of the bug db's that the apache software | foundation

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sowing the seeds of a warconfig tool

2006-08-04 Thread Renat Lumpau
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 10:10:00AM -0600, m h wrote: On 8/4/06, Renat Lumpau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 01:48:50AM -0600, m h wrote: Hey folks- (Shamelessly copied from my blog[1] )... I'm working on an open source tool for managing war files called warconfig

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sowing the seeds of a warconfig tool

2006-08-04 Thread m h
Have you looked at Cargo? http://cargo.codehaus.org/ I figured I'd get this question. i briefly played with cargo. (In fact I'm planning on asking the cargo people for feedback as week). Perhaps if one are interested in manipulating wars from ant/maven, cargo is the way to go. But

Re: [gentoo-dev] atom matching behavior

2006-08-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 03 August 2006 01:44, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 07:07:35AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: Repost from gentoo-portage-dev[1]: Was just brought to my attention that the =* operator doesn't work as I thought, as for example =foo-1.2* matches foo-1.20 as well as

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages seeking maintainers

2006-08-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 03 August 2006 22:43, Daniel Black wrote: app-arch/sharutils not such a big deal as base-system is the fall back -mike pgpFMHbv297Me.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] per-package use.mask (bug 96368)

2006-08-04 Thread Simon Stelling
Zac Medico wrote: Shall we go ahead with the package.use.mask implementation or not? Yes, please! -- Kind Regards, Simon Stelling Gentoo/AMD64 Developer -- gentoo-portage-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] per-package use.mask (bug 96368)

2006-08-04 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 12:23:58PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: Hi everyone, I've written a patch [1] that adds support for package.use.mask in the profile. It should behave exactly as use.mask currently does except that it allows USE flags to be masked for specific packages rather than for

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] per-package use.mask (bug 96368)

2006-08-04 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Harring wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 12:23:58PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: Hi everyone, I've written a patch [1] that adds support for package.use.mask in the profile. It should behave exactly as use.mask currently does except that it

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] per-package use.mask (bug 96368)

2006-08-04 Thread Alec Warner
Since you're sliding this in, why not slide it in using use dep syntax? No, not going to fight over this not being in package.mask, what I'm saying is this _is_ masking of a use dep atom, just use use dep syntax in the file instead. If y'all get use deps, it'll be a bit simpler for folks

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] per-package use.mask (bug 96368)

2006-08-04 Thread Brian Harring
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 12:38:39PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: Brian Harring wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 12:23:58PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: Hi everyone, I've written a patch [1] that adds support for package.use.mask in the profile. It should behave exactly as use.mask currently does

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] per-package use.mask (bug 96368)

2006-08-04 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Harring wrote: On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 12:38:39PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: I haven't seen a specification for use dependencies yet, so I'm not quite sure how they'd work. cat/pkg-ver[use1,use2,-use3,use4] cat/pkg-ver[use] etc. Okay, so