Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Alexander Færøy
Hi, Christel and I were discussing it on IRC today, and she would take care of the paperwork. We are going to have a short meeting in user relations tomorrow evening where it is on the agenda too :) Regards, Alex -- Alexander Færøy Bugday Lead Alpha/IA64/MIPS Architecture Teams User Relations,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Grant Goodyear
Alexander Færøy wrote: [Fri Feb 16 2007, 04:49:24AM CST] Christel and I were discussing it on IRC today, and she would take care of the paperwork. We are going to have a short meeting in user relations tomorrow evening where it is on the agenda too :) Thanks. I'd also like to get input from

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 16 February 2007, Grant Goodyear wrote: So, is there support among devs for hosting another round of Summer students?  Are there good problems for those students to work on, and, if so, what are they?  Were people happy with how last year's program went, or should we try to do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Luca Barbato
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: [report with some disappointing results more or less] I partecipated as both ffmpeg and gentoo so I have another view on the issue. The project I proposed sadly went nowhere and probably IF I'd start mentoring again I'd be quite more strict. ffmpeg got just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Rémi Cardona
Luca Barbato wrote: ffmpeg got just vc-1 working as should, all the other code got somewhat halfway, mostly because we expected a lot. (amr and ac3 seems to have something alive, aac isn't something that good) The Gentoo results aren't that bad on the average, we got something, sadly not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Luca Barbato
Rémi Cardona wrote: Luca Barbato wrote: ffmpeg got just vc-1 working as should, all the other code got somewhat halfway, mostly because we expected a lot. (amr and ac3 seems to have something alive, aac isn't something that good) The Gentoo results aren't that bad on the average, we got

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Grant Goodyear
Rémi Cardona wrote: [Fri Feb 16 2007, 12:14:31PM CST] To complement the both of you, how about proposing projects to 2 students at the same time and have them work as a team? It's against the rules to have two students working on exactly the same project, or at least it was last year.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Network configuration and bash

2007-02-16 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Friday 09 February 2007, Roy Marples wrote: On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:49:57 -0700 Daniel Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words: busybox + single rcS file = fastest and simplest, smallest, best for very small filesystems, not as flexible bash + gentoo baselayout = most

[gentoo-dev] Re: Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Markus Ullmann
Grant Goodyear schrieb: It's against the rules to have two students working on exactly the same project, or at least it was last year. Also about last year, are there known improvements other mentoring organizations had out of SoC? (Like KDE, GNOME,...) Jokey signature.asc Description:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Freitag, 16. Februar 2007 17:35 schrieb Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò: On Friday 16 February 2007, Grant Goodyear wrote: - I don't know what happened to q[u]aludis, nor I care to be honest as it's an external project; For the sake of completeness and correctness: a) It's _qualudis_ ;-) b)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Timezone /etc/conf.d/clock

2007-02-16 Thread Daniel Robbins
I think the easiest approach then would be to have an /etc/timezone directory that should have a single file in it with the current timezone. This file could be copied from /usr and keep the original name. example: /etc/timezone/MST7MDT Pretty easy to understand and deal with. What do you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Timezone /etc/conf.d/clock

2007-02-16 Thread Daniel Robbins
Um, alternatively you could just copy /usr/share/zoneinfo/foo to /etc/localtime rather than having a symlink. Since the zoneinfo file has the name of the timezone in it already, it is probably not necessary to preserve the filename of the timezone file. -Daniel On 2/16/07, Daniel Robbins [EMAIL

Re: [gentoo-dev] Network configuration and bash

2007-02-16 Thread Daniel Robbins
For speed, there are a *lot* of changes/improvements that could be made. What I would like to see is the ability to get to a login prompt before startup is actually completed. Have all the non-essential startup stuff run in the background. Yes, this would require a sophisticated system since

Re: [gentoo-dev] Timezone /etc/conf.d/clock

2007-02-16 Thread Daniel Robbins
Well, sure, but the timezone-data ebuild could be upgraded to check to see if /etc/localtime is old or not and inform the user or even take appropriate steps to automatically fix this (dangerous?) This may not be possible with a direct copy to /etc/localtime, but it should work with the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Network configuration and bash

2007-02-16 Thread Roy Marples
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:20:54 +0100 Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that's what you want, don't use bash in the first place. I would agree that using bash for parsing is a pain in the but Daniel is right in that you're not going to be able to maintain posix compatibility. If you find

Re: [gentoo-dev] Timezone /etc/conf.d/clock

2007-02-16 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:47:10 -0700 Daniel Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Well, sure, but the timezone-data ebuild could be upgraded to check to | see if /etc/localtime is old or not and inform the user or even take | appropriate steps to automatically fix this (dangerous?) Not doable with a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Saturday 17 February 2007, Danny van Dyk wrote: a) It's _qualudis_ ;-) Whatever, can we get back on track? How much good did Google Summer of Code to the Gentoo _community_ ? How much the project were of use for the Gentoo (Linux) project? [1] http://code.google.com/soc/kde/about.html --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Network configuration and bash

2007-02-16 Thread Roy Marples
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:44:15 -0700 Daniel Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For speed, there are a *lot* of changes/improvements that could be made. Yes, re-writing the backend in C whilst keeping /etc/init.d/ and /etc/conf.d/ as shell scripts is a good start :) What I would like to see is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Samstag, 17. Februar 2007 00:52 schrieb Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò: On Saturday 17 February 2007, Danny van Dyk wrote: a) It's _qualudis_ ;-) Whatever, can we get back on track? How much good did Google Summer of Code to the Gentoo _community_ ? How much the project were of use for the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Saturday 17 February 2007, Markus Ullmann wrote: Also about last year, are there known improvements other mentoring organizations had out of SoC? (Like KDE, GNOME,...) You can see the projects for KDE at [1], as well for the other organisations, but I'm not sure if they published the final

[gentoo-dev] dev-db/dbdesigner is without maintainer.

2007-02-16 Thread Alexander Færøy
Hi, After allanonjl's retirement dev-db/dbdesigner will be without maintainer. Anyone interested in taking over this little package? :) Regards, Alexander -- Alexander Færøy Bugday Lead Alpha/IA64/MIPS Architecture Teams User Relations, Quality Assurance pgp0Hwnf3sC1o.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-db/dbdesigner is without maintainer.

2007-02-16 Thread Doug Goldstein
Alexander Færøy wrote: Hi, After allanonjl's retirement dev-db/dbdesigner will be without maintainer. Anyone interested in taking over this little package? :) Regards, Alexander you? -- Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/ signature.asc Description:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 00:52:00 +0100 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | How much good did Google Summer of Code to the Gentoo _community_ ? | How much the project were of use for the Gentoo (Linux) project? Perhaps it should serve as a lesson when selecting next year's projects.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Timezone /etc/conf.d/clock

2007-02-16 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 16 February 2007, Daniel Robbins wrote: Well, sure, but the timezone-data ebuild could be upgraded to check to see if /etc/localtime is old or not and inform the user or even take appropriate steps to automatically fix this (dangerous?) as Ciaran said, this is plain not doable the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Saturday 17 February 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: So perhaps next time around mentors should accept concrete proposals that are really doable, rather than stuff that just seems shiny. Gentoo *could* benefit greatly from SoC, if things are done properly. Apocalypse day may come soon this

[gentoo-dev] rfc: upstart on gentoo

2007-02-16 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All, I saw that we have a request for an ebuild for upstart. I am looking it over and looking at the sample jobs that can be downloaded from the site. I think this would be an intresting idea, and I'm curious what others on this list would think

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 00:27:03 + Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Nothing that's a brand new project. Building upon existing code is fine (heck, even things like eselect modules), but from-scratch build a framework and use it type projects should be out. baselayout-gui was supposed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:35:51 +0100 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - I have no clue what's going on with gentoo-stats; See http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/genone?cat=201 -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothing. And God

Re: [gentoo-dev] Timezone /etc/conf.d/clock

2007-02-16 Thread Daniel Robbins
OK, I did not understand how it was supposed to work. Is there documentation anywhere that explains how it works and why? -Daniel On 2/16/07, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 16 February 2007, Daniel Robbins wrote: Well, sure, but the timezone-data ebuild could be upgraded to

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: upstart on gentoo

2007-02-16 Thread Daniel Robbins
Oh, and a bit of history - at one point, I used djb's supervise as part of the initscripts so that we could do stuff similarly to upstart. When the initscripts were rewritten, we went to bash and had the intention of adding process monitoring and restart eventually - but gentoo was growing so

[gentoo-portage-dev] Storing origin repository in VDB

2007-02-16 Thread Marius Mauch
There are several cases where the information from which repository (portdir, overlays, ...) a package originally came from when it was installed. Currently that information isn't really available, at most you can use some heuristics on environment.bz2 or comparing ebuilds directly, but those