On 07/31/2011 02:22 PM, Kacper Kowalik wrote:
W dniu 30.07.2011 15:55, Samuli Suominen pisze:
On 07/30/2011 01:46 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:27:27 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
Since running separate /usr without mounting it from initramfs on top
of
On 07/31/2011 05:23 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:55:23 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
I dislike the IUSE=+static some packages are currently doing to
workaround this, instead of moving the needed shared libs to /
I dislike the idea of pciutils and
Samuli Suominen schrieb:
that's my impression now too since nobody has managed to provide useful
case for separate /usr, or they have been very vague like adding 1+1 on
/ and /usr filesystem sizes and counting the risk of corrupted
filesystem from that (one word: backup)
Maybe I have to
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 10:23:07 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
this is starting to look good:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove#Move_all_to_.2Fusr
Honestly, that seems like a poor draft to me. First of all, I don't see
a reason to move /sbin to /usr/bin instead
On 08/01/2011 10:45 AM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
Samuli Suominen schrieb:
that's my impression now too since nobody has managed to provide useful
case for separate /usr, or they have been very vague like adding 1+1 on
/ and /usr filesystem sizes and counting the risk of corrupted
Samuli Suominen schrieb:
should think this inverse; make separate partitions for the data
directories such as /home or /var
have /usr on /
so when / goes down, you still keep your data
Putting /home and /var on separate partitions can increase isolation
even further, that is true.
On desktop
On 2011-08-01 10:23 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
that's my impression now too since nobody has managed to provide useful
case for separate /usr, or they have been very vague
I will switch if I have to but saying / and /usr on the same filesystem
is the better technical solution just annoys me.
I
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 10:22:02 +0200
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
Samuli Suominen schrieb:
should think this inverse; make separate partitions for the data
directories such as /home or /var
have /usr on /
so when / goes down, you still keep your data
Putting
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On 01-08-2011 08:31, Eray Aslan wrote:
On 2011-08-01 10:23 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
that's my impression now too since nobody has managed to provide
useful case for separate /usr, or they have been very vague
I will switch if I have to but
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
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On 01-08-2011 08:31, Eray Aslan wrote:
On 2011-08-01 10:23 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
that's my impression now too since nobody has managed to provide
useful case for separate /usr, or they have been
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 05:58:49 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I thought Gentoo was about choices? It seems one choice is being
removed or is it?
Gentoo might be, but Fedora isn't. This is a decision that was made by
one Fedora developer.
--
Ciaran McCreesh
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* Samuli Suominen schrieb am 01.08.11 um 09:23 Uhr:
On 07/31/2011 05:23 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:55:23 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
I dislike the IUSE=+static some packages are currently doing to
workaround this, instead of moving the needed
El lun, 01-08-2011 a las 13:12 +0200, Marc Schiffbauer escribió:
[...]
* /usr/portage can get very huge and is often written to. With
/ and /usr being on the same FS you really want to have
/usr/portage on a seperate FS then
I am sure there are some other reasons too.
Just my 2¢
* Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto schrieb am 01.08.11 um 11:19 Uhr:
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On 01-08-2011 08:31, Eray Aslan wrote:
On 2011-08-01 10:23 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
that's my impression now too since nobody has managed to provide
useful case for separate
* Pacho Ramos schrieb am 01.08.11 um 13:19 Uhr:
El lun, 01-08-2011 a las 13:12 +0200, Marc Schiffbauer escribió:
[...]
* /usr/portage can get very huge and is often written to. With
/ and /usr being on the same FS you really want to have
/usr/portage on a seperate FS then
I am
W dniu 01.08.2011 13:12, Marc Schiffbauer pisze:
* Samuli Suominen schrieb am 01.08.11 um 09:23 Uhr:
On 07/31/2011 05:23 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:55:23 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
I dislike the IUSE=+static some packages are currently doing to
El lun, 01-08-2011 a las 13:30 +0200, Marc Schiffbauer escribió:
* Pacho Ramos schrieb am 01.08.11 um 13:19 Uhr:
El lun, 01-08-2011 a las 13:12 +0200, Marc Schiffbauer escribió:
[...]
* /usr/portage can get very huge and is often written to. With
/ and /usr being on the same FS you
* Kacper Kowalik schrieb am 01.08.11 um 13:32 Uhr:
I'm responding to this particular mail cause it's last in queue and
because it replicates things already mentioned before.
I am a zeleous follower of having seperate /usr partition, thus seeing
moot arguments that goes in favour of my case
On 08/01/2011 02:32 PM, Kacper Kowalik wrote:
W dniu 01.08.2011 13:12, Marc Schiffbauer pisze:
* Samuli Suominen schrieb am 01.08.11 um 09:23 Uhr:
On 07/31/2011 05:23 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:55:23 +0300
[ .. ]
I am a zeleous follower of having seperate /usr partition,
On 08/01/2011 03:25 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 08/01/2011 02:32 PM, Kacper Kowalik wrote:
W dniu 01.08.2011 13:12, Marc Schiffbauer pisze:
* Samuli Suominen schrieb am 01.08.11 um 09:23 Uhr:
On 07/31/2011 05:23 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:55:23 +0300
[ .. ]
I am a
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:45:26 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
There is no way to reliably bring up a modern system with an empty
/usr, there are two alternatives to fix it: copy /usr back to the
rootfs or use an initramfs which can hide the split-off from the
system.
To be
* Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto schrieb am 01.08.11 um 11:19 Uhr:
I agree with Eray. Furthermore, please stop trying to reverse the
game. It's those that want to break existing policies and conventions
that have to justify why they want to do that, not those that want to
keep using what has
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:10:27 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
This isn't about systemd, but indeed it will solve one compability
obstacle for them too. No harm there.
Right, it's about the Gnome operating system, of which systemd is but
one strongly coupled part.
--
Ciaran
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:10:27 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
* Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto schrieb am 01.08.11 um 11:19 Uhr:
I agree with Eray. Furthermore, please stop trying to reverse the
game. It's those that want to break existing policies and
conventions that have to
On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 13:30:37 +0200
Marc Schiffbauer msch...@gentoo.org wrote:
* Pacho Ramos schrieb am 01.08.11 um 13:19 Uhr:
Having /usr/portage on a different partition will still be
supported if I understood correctly (at least, it still works fine
for me even having the rest of /usr
On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 07:22:15PM +0200, Francesco Riosa wrote:
everything about portage is very specific and should be separated, I
would like to see an addition of one root directory gentoo where
${PKGMANAGER} keep all it's stuff.
Some of these are already moveable with ${*DIR} variables in
On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 12:49:41 -0500
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
20K /gentoo/tmp
Maybe /tmp?
/var/tmp was there for a reason. On all my systems /tmp is tmpfs, and
it is not suitable for larger builds.
20K /gentoo/overlays
This isn't on everyones system, so I think it
On 08/01/2011 07:10 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
* Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto schrieb am 01.08.11 um 11:19 Uhr:
I agree with Eray. Furthermore, please stop trying to reverse the
game. It's those that want to break existing policies and conventions
that have to justify why they want to do that,
* William Hubbs schrieb am 01.08.11 um 19:49 Uhr:
On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 07:22:15PM +0200, Francesco Riosa wrote:
everything about portage is very specific and should be separated, I
would like to see an addition of one root directory gentoo where
${PKGMANAGER} keep all it's stuff.
Some
I'm summarising this thread [0] for the upcoming council meeting.
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Some people have expressed disagreement with committing ChangeLog
updates for some changes. Discussion on that lead to an updated policy
to document nearly all changes. Some people still really
On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 12:55:02PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
On 08/01/2011 07:10 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
* Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto schrieb am 01.08.11 um 11:19 Uhr:
I agree with Eray. Furthermore, please stop trying to reverse the
game. It's those that want to break existing policies
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