Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: what happened to /etc/init.d/hal{d,daemon,whatever} script ?

2008-12-23 Thread Petteri Räty
Branko Badrljica wrote: Since I might not be the only tinkerer on Gentoo to try stuff like that and since it took me a day to find this, maybe it wouldn't hurt to check for this kind of thing in portage ? At the very least failed cp should stop emerge... Well there isn't a single place

Re: [gentoo-dev] links between anoncvs.g.o and sources.g.o

2008-12-23 Thread Petteri Räty
Jonas Bernoulli wrote: Hi May I suggest that you add links so that anoncvs.g.o and sources.g.o link to one another. Users might find one of those pages and think that's all there is to it. However both of the pages contain information not available on the other. anoncvs.g.o mentions git and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: what happened to /etc/init.d/hal{d,daemon,whatever} script ?

2008-12-23 Thread Petteri Räty
Doug Goldstein wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: Branko Badrljica wrote: Since I might not be the only tinkerer on Gentoo to try stuff like that and since it took me a day to find this, maybe it wouldn't hurt to check for this kind of thing in portage ? At the very least failed cp should stop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automatic filing of stable requests

2008-12-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Tobias Scherbaum wrote: Thilo Bangert wrote: Now what do people think about extending metadata.xml so that you could have these bugs filed automatically when there are no open bugs? Something like a auto-stable-request enabled=true/ element with the DTD setting the default as true and you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automatic filing of stable requests

2008-12-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Thilo Bangert wrote: Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org said: On 05:10 Sun 14 Dec , Petteri Räty wrote: I added support for filing stable requests directly from my stable candidate RSS feed. For those that don't read planet Gentoo the feed can be found here: http

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automatic filing of stable requests

2008-12-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Tiziano Müller wrote: Am Sonntag, den 14.12.2008, 18:33 +0300 schrieb Peter Volkov: В Вск, 14/12/2008 в 05:10 +0200, Petteri Räty пишет: Now what do people think about extending metadata.xml so that you could have these bugs filed automatically when there are no open bugs? Is it possible

[gentoo-dev] Automatic filing of stable requests

2008-12-13 Thread Petteri Räty
I added support for filing stable requests directly from my stable candidate RSS feed. For those that don't read planet Gentoo the feed can be found here: http://gentoo.petteriraty.eu/stable.rss Now what do people think about extending metadata.xml so that you could have these bugs filed

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 2 policy for portage tree

2008-12-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Robert R. Russell wrote: My personal opinion on this matter is pick one of the following: 1) perform the bugfix without a version bump and remain at the current EAPI version 2) perform the bugfix with a version bump and remain at the current EAPI version 3) perform the bugfix with a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: add a compiler-version entry to pkg db

2008-12-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Federico Ferri wrote: Hello, today I hit this annoyance, because my laptop hung in the middle of an 'emerge -e @world' (checking that my world set compiles with gcc-4.3... stopped at ~ 300 of 700 :S ) Consider using emerge --keep-going next time. I was looking for an entry in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: disable python and perl USE flags in profile

2008-12-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Maciej Mrozowski wrote: Following advise from https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=250179, I'm bringing it here. I think this is probably a good idea after EAPI 2 is stable and we eliminate built_with_use usage from the tree. I think having stuff build out of the box instead of dying in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: DEFINED_PHASES magic metadata variable

2008-12-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:43:59 + Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The DEFINED_PHASES variable will contain a space separated arbitrarily ordered list of phase names. A phase name is listed in DEFINED_PHASES if and only if the ebuild or an eclass used by that

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Jan Kundrát wrote: kashani wrote: How easy is it to checkout current GDP docs Append ?passthru=1 to the end of the URL. and make changes to them? I take it you want to make a patch. In such case, edit the file and submit the diff via Bugzilla. Cheers, -jkt Or use anoncvs for

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Michael Hammer wrote: * Mark Loeser [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081112 00:46]: What are others feelings on this? I like the idea! What issues do you see with having a wiki? Pages of poor quality with wrong informations. Do you see anyway to resolve the issue you see with us having a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reinstating eclasses

2008-11-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Zac Medico wrote: Christoph Mende wrote: Hi, I'm currently working on a new eclass for Xfce4 that, as opposed to the previous ones (xfce42.eclass, xfce44.eclass), is supposed to be used for all versions. Now the most logical name for an eclass like that would be xfce4.eclass, except that

Re: [gentoo-dev] virtualx eclass

2008-10-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Doug Goldstein wrote: Doug Goldstein wrote: Doug Goldstein wrote: While the rule of thumb has been if an eclass needs something it should provide it's own depends. However the virtualx eclass needs to be different simply because in some cases it's only uses for tests (this is it's most

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilize ebuilds which use EAPIs only supported by ~arch PMs

2008-10-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Marius Mauch kirjoitti: On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:59:39 +0200 Jose Luis Rivero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 05:38:34PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 02:03 Tue 14 Oct , Jose Luis Rivero wrote: There are some others sceneries but are not so common as the one presented

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: fox.eclass update

2008-10-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Matti Bickel kirjoitti: Hi folks, While fixing bug #240060 I touched fox.eclass. In the process, I updated the eclass to * use versionator * cut support for fox-1.0 (loong outdated) * cut support for fox-1.5 * use eautomake instead of =automake-1.4* * use emake

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout-2 / OpenRC Stabilization

2008-10-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Doug Goldstein kirjoitti: As some people may have already noticed, I have recently added OpenRC 0.3.0 to the tree. This will be the stabilization candidate in approximately 30 days. I encourage everyone to kick the tires on this one. Current Bugs: *http://tinyurl.com/4housz* That list

[gentoo-dev] Changing doc use flag on gtk-doc packages to gtk-doc-rebuild or something else

2008-10-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Currently the doc use flag on gtk-doc using packages does not control doc installation but instead whether to rebuild them so that they are properly cross linked. I think we should be using a separate use flag from doc for this purpose. Any comments? 15:40 @Betelgeuse EvaSDK: Just change the doc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing doc use flag on gtk-doc packages to gtk-doc-rebuild or something else

2008-10-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Mart Raudsepp kirjoitti: On P, 2008-10-05 at 20:34 +0200, Thomas Sachau wrote: Rémi Cardona schrieb: Thomas Sachau a écrit : Why not do both (rebuild and install) with the doc useflag and none of both, if it is not set? Imho the doc flag is for control of installation for (additional) docs,

[gentoo-dev] Migrating to EAPI 2 and econf

2008-10-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Just a reminder to everyone that when you migrate to EAPI 2 in order to use use dependencies remember to migrate your src_compile function too or you will be running econf twice if you have a custom src_compile function. econf will first be run by the default src_configure function and then by

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Default src_install for EAPI-2 or following EAPI

2008-09-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Nirbheek Chauhan kirjoitti: On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Thomas Sachau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what about this one? default_src_install() { if [ -f Makefile ] || [ -f GNUmakefile ] || [ -f makefile ]; then emake DESTDIR=${D} install || die emake install failed

Re: [gentoo-dev] changing EAPI on existing ebuilds. To bump or not?

2008-09-29 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:39:41 +1300 Alistair Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, would be nice to get some feedback, idea's on this and hopefully also a more detailed explaination from a pm's perspective (if there is one). For current EAPIs, there's nothing

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-lisp/abcl-cvs

2008-09-29 Thread Petteri Räty
+# Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] (29 Sep 2008) +# Live ebuilds are more appropriate to overlays. +# See https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=227629 +# for more details. +dev-lisp/abcl-cvs + signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-sound/audacity: ChangeLog audacity-1.3.5-r1.ebuild

2008-09-29 Thread Petteri Räty
Alexis Ballier kirjoitti: On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:38:41 +0200 Alexis Ballier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Diego, EAPI=2 [...] src_compile() { WX_GTK_VER=2.8 need-wxwidgets unicode econf \ This causes me a configure failure because I don't have a system wxwdigets

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-libs/cairo: cairo-1.8.0.ebuild

2008-09-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Robin H. Johnson kirjoitti: On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 12:48:41AM +, Saleem Abdulrasool (compnerd) wrote: compnerd08/09/27 00:48:41 Added:cairo-1.8.0.ebuild Log: version bump (Portage version: 2.2_rc9/cvs/Linux 2.6.27-rc3-git3 i686) Revision ChangesPath 1.1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making built_with_use die by default with EAPI 2

2008-09-23 Thread Petteri Räty
Bo Ørsted Andresen kirjoitti: On Monday 22 September 2008 22:25:20 Petteri Räty wrote: If you mean something like built_with_use cat/foo coolfeature || ewarn bar will be more useful if you rebuild cat/foo with USE=coolfeature then you can use has_version 'cat/foo[coolfeature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making built_with_use die by default with EAPI 2

2008-09-23 Thread Petteri Räty
Alexis Ballier kirjoitti: On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:33:44 +0300 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bo Ørsted Andresen kirjoitti: On Monday 22 September 2008 22:25:20 Petteri Räty wrote: If you mean something like built_with_use cat/foo coolfeature || ewarn bar will be more useful if you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making built_with_use die by default with EAPI 2

2008-09-22 Thread Petteri Räty
David Leverton kirjoitti: On Saturday 20 September 2008 18:15:27 Alexis Ballier wrote: I can think of checks like: - foo is a dep/rdep of bar - foo has a plugin like architecture - bar will work with minimal foo - most people will expect some features in bar that come with foo's plugins - we

[gentoo-dev] Making built_with_use die by default with EAPI 2

2008-09-20 Thread Petteri Räty
When EAPI 2 goes live built_with_use should probably die for most cases. Are there valid use cases for built_with_use that are not covered by the use deps in EAPI 2? If there are we could add a switch like --noeapi2die to it. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making built_with_use die by default with EAPI 2

2008-09-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Alexis Ballier kirjoitti: Hi, When EAPI 2 goes live built_with_use should probably die for most cases. I don't understand here: you mean die like being removed or die like the die call in an ebuild? If I understood correctly the following it should be the latter. Well we could go with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default src_install for EAPI-2 or following EAPI

2008-09-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Sachau kirjoitti: I see, we have a default src_unpack and a default src_compile but a default src_install is still missing. Here is my suggestion (taken and modified from bug 33544): src_install() { if [ -f Makefile -o -f GNUmakefile -o -f makefile ]; then emake

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2

2008-09-16 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:28:09 -0700 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21:55 Sun 14 Sep , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:51:11 +0300 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopefully someone formats it to a real GLEP before that. git clone

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2

2008-09-14 Thread Petteri Räty
David Leverton kirjoitti: On Thursday 11 September 2008 21:06:48 Doug Goldstein wrote: Tobias Scherbaum wrote: Luca Barbato wrote: I don't see any problems with it. +1 Tobias +1 Since this latest version hasn't generated any noticeable disagreement, could the Council please formally

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Glep 55 use case: moving slot to file name

2008-09-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Icedtea has two release tracks. One for the 1.7 OpenJDK code base and one for the 1.6 code base. They have independent version numbering so they can have collisions. By moving the slot to the file name we could have icedtea-1.2:1.6.ebuildN and icedtea-1.2:1.7.ebuildN. This particular situation

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Glep 55 use case: moving slot to file name

2008-09-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: On 14:56 Fri 12 Sep , Doug Goldstein wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: Icedtea has two release tracks. One for the 1.7 OpenJDK code base and one for the 1.6 code base. They have independent version numbering so they can have collisions. By moving the slot to the file

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Glep 55 use case: moving slot to file name

2008-09-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: On 22:21 Fri 12 Sep , Petteri Räty wrote: I do know how to get around it, I did state that in my original email. As it happens we are having a discussion on gentoo-java mailing list on whether we should use icedtea-openjdk build.icedtea version.ebuild or have

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2

2008-09-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:31:08 +0300 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto kirjoitti: and cardoe's earlier request to the council ml, can the council members discuss this proposal and consider voting it? Does anyone have any objections

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2

2008-09-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto kirjoitti: and cardoe's earlier request to the council ml, can the council members discuss this proposal and consider voting it? Does anyone have any objections to this proposal? I won't approve it for use in the tree before it's written as a GLEP in order to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] EAPI 2 Draft

2008-09-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Alec Warner kirjoitti: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Leverton wrote: 2008/9/5 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Both approaches are essentially equivalent but it's a little simpler for ebuild writer if they don't have to customize the output file name.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of poppler-0.8

2008-08-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Peter Alfredsen kirjoitti: Hi, It won't be long before I ask for poppler-0.8 and -bindings to be stabilized. This will bump the soname for poppler and force a rebuild of all packages depending on it. I've opened a tracker bug at http://bugs.gentoo.org/235897 where you can add a comment or

[gentoo-dev] News item: World file handling changes in Portage-2.2

2008-08-16 Thread Petteri Räty
. Unless objections come out the new news item will be committed at the same time as rc8 (rc8 will have an update man portage page describing world_sets). Title: World file handling changes in Portage-2.2 Author: Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Author: Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] What features should be included in EAPI 2?

2008-08-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Zac Medico kirjoitti: * Default phase function implementations for older EAPIs are accessible via functions having names that start with 'eapi', followed by the EAPI value. What's the benefit of this feature? Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] best way to use profiles and package.use.mask?

2008-08-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Steve Dibb kirjoitti: Are there ever any cases where we could just simply put the use flag as restricted in the global package.use.mask and then unrestrict them in the profiles ones if, for example, it only worked on one or a few arches? Or is the best policy always to mask it on each

Re: [gentoo-dev] best way to use profiles and package.use.mask?

2008-08-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Friedrich Oslage kirjoitti: Maybe we should ask Recruiters what most people answered to that eom-quiz question :) I have been instructing people to adjust the files themselves. The changes affect only the package in question and as such it falls under the responsibility of the maintainer of

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] What features should be included in EAPI 2?

2008-08-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Zac Medico kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: Zac Medico kirjoitti: * Default phase function implementations for older EAPIs are accessible via functions having names that start with 'eapi', followed by the EAPI value. What's the benefit of this feature? In some cases it might

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default_* functions

2008-08-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Hi, Currently we have default_* functions implemented in portage(paludis has these too) which allow the default implementation of a particular phase to be called. Another handy function in the default_* series is function

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jeeves IRC replacement now alive - Willikins

2008-08-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Robin H. Johnson kirjoitti: Hi folks, Sorry that it's taken this long to get completed, but the Jeeves replacement, Willikins, is finally 99% done, and ready to join lots of channels. Getting the bot out there - If you would like to have the new bot in your #gentoo-*

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Should 'imlib' USE flag be on by default in x86 and amd64 desktop profiles?

2008-07-25 Thread Petteri Räty
Jim Ramsay kirjoitti: I've run into it a few times now that fluxbox users running Gentoo wonder why they can't get icons to work in the fluxbox menus. The short answer is that 'imlib' is off by default in many profiles, including default-linux/amd64/2007.0/desktop and

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: auto-detection of unpack dependencies

2008-07-18 Thread Petteri Räty
Marius Mauch kirjoitti: If someone wants to use it I can add it on the tree (after the normal review process and being better tested), but I'll only be doing it when there is an actual demand for it (no point in adding an eclass that nobody uses). I have been long thinking about adding

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 July 2008

2008-07-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:16:23 -0700 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as could be determined by the members at the meeting there no compelling examples in Gentoo who to change or add global scope functions in future EAPIs. As such those problems as stated

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: auto-detection of unpack dependencies

2008-07-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Marius Mauch kirjoitti: So, is this something ebuild maintainers would like in general, or does such a feature cause you nightmares? I have actually been thinking about writing support for this into the Java eclasses because most Java upstreams use .zip files and we need app-arch/unzip in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 July 2008

2008-07-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:58:01 +0300 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I can think a lot of features like this that would be of great use in the main tree but as long as Portage is the only official and stable package manager and doesn't support the things you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2008/2009 - RESULTS

2008-07-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Łukasz Damentko kirjoitti: Dear Gentoo Community, Here are your verified and long-awaited results. Gentoo Council for term 2008/2009 will be: Donnie Berkholz (dberkholz) Mark Loeser (Halcy0n) Diego Petteno (Flameeyes) Petteri Raty (Betelgeuse) Luca Barbato (lu_zero) Markus Ullmann (Jokey)

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: 0-day bump requests

2008-07-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Jeroen Roovers kirjoitti: - 1) How do you feel when you receive an early version bump request? I don't mind as I don't have the time to follow upstreams that closely for the hundreds of Java packages out there. 2) If you had your way, would you discourage users from filing early

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastriting dev-libs/libffi (replaced by USE libffi in gcc itself)

2008-07-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Albert Zeyer kirjoitti: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:35 +0200, Tiziano Müller wrote: Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 14:52 Thu 05 Jun , Samuli Suominen wrote: # Samuli Suominen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (05 Jun 2008) # Masked for removal in ~30 days by treecleaners. # Replaced by USE libffi in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+=-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common

2008-06-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: On Saturday 28 June 2008, Petteri Räty wrote: Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis kirjoitti: I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the following flags: -Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common. -O1 enables some basic optimizations. At least

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+=-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common

2008-06-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis kirjoitti: I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the following flags: -Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common. -O1 enables some basic optimizations. At least adding -O1 should not be problematic. I think vapier was already

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP56] USE flag descriptions in metadata

2008-06-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Doug Goldstein kirjoitti: All, Here's a GLEP for the addition of USE flag descriptions to package metadata. It does not address any future ideas that others may have had or suggested. It merely gives developers the necessary tools to document their USE flag usage it better detail on a per

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Josh Saddler kirjoitti: Łukasz Damentko wrote: Hi guys, Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009 are open now and will be open for the next two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2008). Now that nominations are officially open, I nominate the current council members (again): amne

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-util/lincvs

2008-05-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Pagano kirjoitti: Mike Pagano [EMAIL PROTECTED] (19 May 2008) Masked for removal in 30 days. Upstream has changed name to crossvc, which is available in the tree. (bug #213496) --- Mike Pagano Gentoo Developer - Kernel Project E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG

Re: [gentoo-dev] DevRel policy update

2008-04-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Wulf C. Krueger kirjoitti: How to gain power the easy way and obsolete conflict resolution in just one commit: http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en/devrel/policy.xml?r1=1.18r2=1.19 Please use the appropriate mailing list. Nothing technical here. This thread

OT: [gentoo-dev] Nazi symbols on Gentoo (and other offending content)

2008-04-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Santiago M. Mola kirjoitti: Thoughts? Isn't there anyone else willing to keep Nazi symbols outside forums? If yes, at the expense of punting all politics or just as a special case? Again this is the wrong mailing list. I don't see this thread having any technical content. Regards, Petteri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing .la files...

2008-04-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Luca Barbato kirjoitti: Alistair Bush wrote: ++. I actually have no problem with agreeing with it, currently my problem is the complete and utter lack of any _planned_ upgrade path. What do we think users are going to be saying at the end of the year when after every sync they have to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Removing .la files...

2008-04-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò kirjoitti: Probably the best thing would be to get a better tool than revdep-rebuild to handle broken .la files, as revdep-rebuild forces a timewasting rebuild, while a good fix could be just a sed -i -e 's:/usr/lib\(64\)\?/lib\(.*\).la:-l\2:' on all the .la files,

Re: [gentoo-dev] What are blocks used for?

2008-04-16 Thread Petteri Räty
Mateusz A. Mierzwin'ski kirjoitti: Richard Freeman pisze: Mateusz A. Mierzwin'ski wrote: And I strongly suggest to leave old mechanism of portage, because we saw couple times what _GREAT_ automatic makes with distro - eg. Mandriva with all creators and cheap installer - couple apps not

Re: [gentoo-dev] escaping variables in sed expressions

2008-04-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) kirjoitti: Hi list, it seems I have been using some fragile sed expression and I'd like to tap the collective wisdom for avoiding doing that in the future. dev-scheme/slib-3.1.5-r1 currently does sed s_prefix = /usr/local/_prefix = ${D}/usr/_ -i Makefile to make it

[gentoo-portage-dev] Re: Problems with the new no downgrades

2008-04-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Vlastimil Babka kirjoitti: *portage-2.1.5_rc1 (04 Apr 2008) 04 Apr 2008; Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] +portage-2.1.5_rc1.ebuild: 2.1.5_rc1 release. In the event that a previously installed package has since been masked, emerge will no longer perform an automatic downgrade as part of a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty kirjoitti: I checked the current slacker script and it checks for having at least one commit in last 60 days. We could of course just change the slacker script to list the activity for everyone during the last 60 days and leave the interpretation to undertakers. Regards

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Pagano kirjoitti: On Monday 07 April 2008 04:37:18 pm Petteri Räty wrote: Petteri Räty kirjoitti: So I wrote a new slacker script that gets the active developers from LDAP and checks the activity for the last 60 days. One repoman commit should equal a couple entries on history

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: I agree with the above point. Also, as I recall, both Pettery (betelgeuse) and Denis (calchan) have stated before that we no longer have any queue of people waiting on recruiters to join Gentoo. I'm not seeing an avalanche of new blood

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen kirjoitti: On 02-04-2008 21:21:25 -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: Would it make more sense to just make a policy that failure to maintain packages that you're maintainer on will result in getting removed as the maintainer, with said packages going up for grabs? Devs who keep

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:35:20 + Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, but with some acls we could also have a different model where people worked on parts of the tree and where commit privileges didn't pose so many security risks. With the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Chrissy Fullam kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Auty kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: Defining required amount of activity for ebuild devs. I would like us to raise the required amount of activity for ebuild devs. Given that the low number of developers is ranked as our number one problem in Donnie's informal survey[1], taking any kind

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Wulf C. Krueger kirjoitti: On Wednesday, 02. April 2008 22:46:16 Petteri Räty wrote: How does having the average time between commits be at most a week sound and if it goes under that, undertakers will get a notification? It sounds like you're trying to get rid of someone. I don't have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Auty kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: If you can't manage weekly commits, you can't respond to security issues either. I can see your point, I was more thinking about developers who have maybe one or two small packages that don't have many version bumps or bugs. They may be entirely

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-apps/iproute2: ChangeLog iproute2-2.6.24.20080108.ebuild

2008-03-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:18:44 -0400 Mark Loeser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it is something we want to move forward with, it should be introduced at the package manager level instead of being an in-tree package manager specific feature. cat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: RFC: New build types

2008-03-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Steve Long kirjoitti: I don't see how it would wreak more havoc than a novice using, eg ANT from Java which s/he is comfortable with, and then further having to learn BASH peculiarities when things don't fit with the eclass. But yeah, the fun is what attracts me to the idea more than anything.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-18 Thread Petteri Räty
Rémi Cardona kirjoitti: Petteri Räty a écrit : http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_a57bf5f459324975bae8843fe7cdf469.xml Sorry I didn't respond to you Petteri, but this is clearly missing packages. For sure, it's missing gnome-games which inherits both the gnome2 and the games

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Rémi Cardona kirjoitti: Now, basically, if the portage metadata or QA people could tell me a way to figure *all* the ebuilds that inherit gnome2 *and* have a pkg_preinst() function somewhere (either in the ebuild or in an eclass somewhere) I'd really appreciate it, as I really don't want to

Re: [gentoo-dev] bzr.eclass into Portage

2008-03-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Christian Faulhammer kirjoitti: Hi, in the Emacs overlay we imported the bzr.eclass from the xeffects overlay. In the near future Emacs development will switch from CVS to Bazaar and thus we need the new eclass in Portage to still provide our live ebuilds from app-editors/emacs-cvs. Question

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-14 Thread Petteri Räty
David Leverton kirjoitti: On Friday 14 March 2008 07:14:23 Rémi Cardona wrote: - the gnome2 eclass now has a pkg_preinst, if you do multiple inherits, make sure that gnome2_pkg_preinst is called too. The _games_eclass_ is one of those. Maybe worth adding a dummy to the current version of

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Rémi Cardona kirjoitti: This is where I kindly request the help of fellow Gentoo devs and PM developers : - the gnome2 eclass now has a pkg_preinst, if you do multiple inherits, make sure that gnome2_pkg_preinst is called too. The _games_eclass_ is one of those. I only found two ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-14 Thread Petteri Räty
David Leverton kirjoitti: On Friday 14 March 2008 12:14:39 Petteri Räty wrote: David Leverton kirjoitti: Maybe worth adding a dummy to the current version of the eclass so that ebuilds can be updated now, instead of suddenly all at once as soon as the new eclass is committed? And break

Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Natanael Copa kirjoitti: On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 00:35 +0100, Fabio Erculiani wrote: I offer my help to fix DEPEND/RDEPEND split issues which is causing me a lot of headaches (along with localizations). For reference, please have a look here: http://planet.sabayonlinux.org/?p=105 I'm another

Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabio Erculiani kirjoitti: [02:31] Halcy0n lxnay: we offer all of our work that you base your distribution off, and you don't contribute back at all, in any way. ^^ This is a really stupid sentence. It seems some of you don't even realize how many users we brought to Gentoo, and this is really

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-13 Thread Petteri Räty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: Well I'm a newcomer to Gentoo and never heard of Sabayon (great project btw). Knowing no one here or there, nor any history: Never heard of and you say it's a great project? This conversation reminds me of Human Resources. They always have 'procedures' and

[gentoo-dev] FYI clarifications to skel.ebuild EAPI usage

2008-03-13 Thread Petteri Räty
solar reported that he had ebuild submissions blindly using EAPI=1 so we hopefully made the text better reflect that it should not be used unless absolutely needed. Regards, Petteri [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/portage $ cvs diff -r 1.44 skel.ebuild Index: skel.ebuild

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Tobias Klausmann (klausman)

2008-03-10 Thread Petteri Räty
One of those people working on those weird paper weights. This time our monkey comes from the world of alphas. Tobias hails from Germany (there seems to be no end). He works as a sysadmin so perhaps he will some idea about stability. He is the author of pymetar and carl (emerge and try).

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Tobias Klausmann (klausman)

2008-03-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty kirjoitti: One of those people working on those weird paper weights. This time our monkey comes from the world of alphas. Tobias hails from Germany (there seems to be no end). He works as a sysadmin so perhaps he will some idea about stability. He is the author of pymetar and carl

[gentoo-dev] New keyword monkey: Kenneth Prug (ken69267)

2008-03-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Joining us from the zoos of Florida, we have Kenneth keninsert random numbers here Prugh. Ken did such a fine job testing all those random packages for amd64 that it will be the sole purpose of his life from now on. He tells me his hobby is to learn new programming languages so I guess he

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Ulrich Mueller kirjoitti: Isn't what you wrote the existing policy? If it is, then the last question of the end-quiz should be changed: | 19. You are bumping foomatic's ebuild from version 1.5 to version | 2.0. This new version is a massive rewrite which introduces | huge changes to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Jeroen Roovers kirjoitti: On 01 Mar 2008 05:30:01 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Ricardo Mendoza (ricmm)

2008-03-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Hailing from the Venezuela, more precisely Caracas, we have Ricardo ricmm Mendoza. When he's not fighting in the jungles, he likes to play around with those expensive paper weights that some people call mips computers. Luckily for him he will be soon moving to the comfort of Europe. Now it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Markus Ullmann kirjoitti: So giving both (devs and users) an automated way of working with that would help a lot IMHO. like the user submits using echangelog My cool change repoman submit then the dev gets a diff or whatever against current state and then just does repoman accept or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Please elaborate on how a full.fledged developer would differ from a package maintainer technically. What requirements and/or priviledges do you think could be reduced? Marius Perhaps there could be some honor code system at least, where the package maintainer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Arch Testers don't have tree access. This proposal gives the package maintainer the ability to commit their changes. How would you ensure ebuild quality for these package maintainers? Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: On Wednesday 05 March 2008 16:05:09 Petteri Räty wrote: Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Arch Testers don't have tree access. This proposal gives the package maintainer the ability to commit their changes. How would you ensure ebuild quality for these package maintainers

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