Re: [gentoo-dev] Running a script to remove useless deps like virtual/libc from ebuilds

2007-12-31 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Dec 30, 2007 6:50 PM, Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a script coming up that can remove virtual/libc dependencies from ebuilds automatically but can this be done safely for all ebuilds are are there ebuilds in system that really need this dep for stage building etc? FWIW:

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag documentation

2007-12-31 Thread Denis Dupeyron
I like the overall idea. I will comment the first proposed alternative as this is the one that makes the most sense in my opinion. Having one global use.xml where the default definitions are, and then using metadata.xml for each package to override the USE flag definition. With 's/default

Re: [gentoo-dev] has_version etc parallelisability

2007-12-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 05:03:21 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: Is it legal for ebuilds to call has_version and friends in parallel? Is it legal for ebuilds to call has_version and friends after the ebuild process has terminated? Discuss. Do

Re: [gentoo-dev] has_version etc parallelisability

2007-12-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 20:11:16 -0800 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/30/07, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it legal for ebuilds to call has_version and friends in parallel? Is it legal for ebuilds to call has_version and friends after the ebuild process has terminated?

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-31 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:43:10 +0100 Piotr Jaroszyński [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have updated the GLEP, hopefully it is less confusing now and hence the discussion will be more technical. Still doesn't address my concerns, namely: - silently expands the scope of EAPI beyond ebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:33:51 +0100 Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - silently expands the scope of EAPI beyond ebuild contents (which is a blocker for me) That already happened with EAPI 1 and slot deps. -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI inside ebuild filename (.EAPI-ebuild of different?)

2007-12-31 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:50:02 +0300 Peter Volkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This hack is just to solve portage problem which does not ignore .ebuild files which does not follow pkg-ver.ebuild syntax and suggested solution is not the only solution. Other possibilities are, which I like more: 1.

[gentoo-dev] EAPI checking in eclasses

2007-12-31 Thread Caleb Tennis
Is it legal for an eclass to check the EAPI version (presumably by using the EAPI variable) and perform some dependent behavior based on what it sees? I don't see any eclasses using EAPI for anything, so I'm curious. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI definition Was: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-31 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:34:44 + (UTC) Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand the ban on non-EAPI-0 features in in-tree profiles, since users could be using old PMs, but it's fine using them in /etc/portage/*, provided one has upgraded to an appropriately compatible PM, correct? Yes

Re: EAPI definition Was: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-31 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:03:12 + Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:26:27 +0100 Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marius Mauch wrote: Nope. EAPI (from my POV) defines the API that a package manager has to export to an ebuild/eclass. That includes

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI checking in eclasses

2007-12-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:34:05 -0500 (EST) Caleb Tennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it legal for an eclass to check the EAPI version (presumably by using the EAPI variable) and perform some dependent behavior based on what it sees? I don't see any eclasses using EAPI for anything, so I'm

Re: EAPI definition Was: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:46:06 +0100 Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The issue is with comparison rules. For the current use case that's not an issue as it's simply a superset, so we could just use the new rules for everything. But if the rules are changed in an incompatible way, which

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag documentation

2007-12-31 Thread Doug Klima
Marius Mauch wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:54:04 -0500 Mark Loeser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me know if you like any of those ideas, or if they all suck (and if they do, you better tell me why). I'm not sure which is the best way forward, which is why I want everyone to contribute towards

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-31 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
On Monday 31 of December 2007 15:33:51 Marius Mauch wrote: Still doesn't address my concerns, namely: - silently expands the scope of EAPI beyond ebuild contents (which is a blocker for me) And what is the reason for not doing exactly that? Seems logical to me. And btw. slot deps added in

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag documentation

2007-12-31 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Dec 31, 2007 3:30 PM, Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What benefit does use.xml have over use.desc? [...] No need to change the format of use.desc Anything that would enable us to document with more than a few words, which is what we're practically limited to with the current format of

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag documentation

2007-12-31 Thread Mark Loeser
Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: One of the GLEP's primary goals is to provide a global use flag definition and over-ride it with a local definition. How does putting all flags in use.desc and over-riding local flags in use.local.desc not accomplish this? It does, and maybe that's what

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag documentation

2007-12-31 Thread Mark Loeser
Doug Klima [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Marius Mauch wrote: What benefit does use.xml have over use.desc? My opinion is that we should use use.desc for a complete list of use flags, including a generic description, allow a more verbose description in metadata.xml and get rid of the stupid

[gentoo-dev] RFC: brltty not starting early enough

2007-12-31 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All, brltty is one of our accessibility packages. It is a program that drives a braille display which is one way a blind person can access the computer. The project's guidelines for linux distributions at

Re: EAPI definition Was: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-31 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:09:33 + Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:46:06 +0100 Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The issue is with comparison rules. For the current use case that's not an issue as it's simply a superset, so we could just use the new

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-31 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:40:57 + Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:33:51 +0100 Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - silently expands the scope of EAPI beyond ebuild contents (which is a blocker for me) That already happened with EAPI 1 and slot deps.

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag documentation

2007-12-31 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:55:10 +0100 Denis Dupeyron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 31, 2007 3:30 PM, Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What benefit does use.xml have over use.desc? [...] No need to change the format of use.desc Anything that would enable us to document with more than