Re: [gentoo-dev] public system of ratings
Oleg Puchinin a écrit :
Day kind!
I recently have started to use Gentoo, and I had one question.
What for to charge developers of a problem of check of packages?
Why to not make public system of ratings? For example voting
We already have such a implicit rating system :) It's called bugzilla.
Just count the currently open bugs for a given package, that will give
you a pretty good estimate of how well it {mis,}behaves.
Rémi
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[gentoo-dev] public system of ratings
Day kind! I recently have started to use Gentoo, and I had one question. What for to charge developers of a problem of check of packages? Why to not make public system of ratings? For example voting " is not compiled At all " "works" ... "It is excellent" "I wish to see a package in Gentoo " And so for each [new] package. Oleg. -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] public system of ratings
One hundred programmers which only also do that dig in mountain "bugs"
a kind " new package ", it, in my opinion, how to use a steam hammer
to crack nuts. Can it is necessary to make the processes occuring in
Gentoo by more public?
On Feb 16, 2008 3:06 PM, Rémi Cardona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oleg Puchinin a écrit :
> > Day kind!
> > I recently have started to use Gentoo, and I had one question.
> > What for to charge developers of a problem of check of packages?
> > Why to not make public system of ratings? For example voting
>
> We already have such a implicit rating system :) It's called bugzilla.
> Just count the currently open bugs for a given package, that will give
> you a pretty good estimate of how well it {mis,}behaves.
>
> Rémi
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Re: [gentoo-dev] public system of ratings
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 07:49:09 pm Oleg Puchinin wrote: > Day kind! > I recently have started to use Gentoo, and I had one question. I counted two. > What for to charge developers of a problem of check of packages? I don't know what this means. > Why to not make public system of ratings? There has been no major motivation to implement such a system. > For example voting > > " is not compiled At all " > "works" > ... > "It is excellent" > "I wish to see a package in Gentoo " > bugs.gentoo.org has the ability to assign votes to bugs. If you like something you can blog about it. > And so for each [new] package. Small amounts of this can be done on bug reports. Get involved with overlay projects like sunrise to increase the usages of packages you like. Maybe oneday you'll even become a gentoo developer and can make a package mainstream. > > Oleg. -- Daniel Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] public system of ratings
On Saturday 16 February 2008, Oleg Puchinin wrote: > " is not compiled At all " > "works" All stable ebuilds in the tree should work, if they don't that's an exception and will probably get fixed soon after the failure is discovered anyway. Anyone who is willing to test a new keyword in an ebuild shouldn't have a problem filing a KEYWORDREQ in Bugzilla. > "It is excellent" If you want package ratings, take a look at ohloh.net or something, shouldn't be hard (for a human) to map the package names there to the ones in Gentoo. > "I wish to see a package in Gentoo " Again, all the most important software is already in the tree, if you need something else, filing a bug is not too much effort. -- Torsten Rehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo AMD64 Arch Tester http://scel.info signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] public system of ratings
Oleg, please, do not top post.
В Сбт, 16/02/2008 в 15:16 +0600, Oleg Puchinin пишет:
> One hundred programmers which only also do that dig in mountain "bugs"
> a kind " new package ", it, in my opinion, how to use a steam hammer
> to crack nuts. Can it is necessary to make the processes occuring in
> Gentoo by more public?
It's hard to understand what you suggested here. But I think that the
answer is: even if "new package" compiles and works on 10^{any number
here} systems, without maintainer it will not go in the tree and public
testing does not help to resolve "new package" bugs. OTOH I already
wrote you in gentoo-ru 2 possibilities how you can get your package in
the tree and mentioned sunrise overlay...
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-analyzer/cacti: ChangeLog metadata.xml cacti-0.8.7a-r2.ebuild cacti-0.8.6j-r8.ebuild cacti-0.8.7b.ebuild cacti-0.8.7a-r1.ebuild cacti-0.8
В Чтв, 14/02/2008 в 23:19 -0800, Donnie Berkholz пишет:
> > use bundled-adodb || phpUseFlags="${phpUseFlags} sockets"
>
> Why is bundling even an option? We should always force external packages
> to be used, or we end up with more zlib messes.
This does no harm and can help in situations when web-app upstream
modified bundled adodb in non compatible way. But well, I'll drop it
from USE flags and define environmental variable inside ebuild to show
that although there is possibility to use bundled adodb it's not
supported.
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[gentoo-dev] virtual/pager
Hi, going from bug 209624 [1], I created a virtual/pager-0.ebuild file, which transfers the old-style to a new-style virtual. Have I forgotten a pager? Is there anyone in opposition to it? V-Li [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209624> -- Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode http://www.faulhammer.org/> signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:25:43 +0300 Peter Volkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This does no harm and can help in situations when web-app upstream > modified bundled adodb in non compatible way. But well, I'll drop it > from USE flags and define environmental variable inside ebuild to show > that although there is possibility to use bundled adodb it's not > supported. A USE flag is better than an environment variable. Environment variables aren't easily visible to the end user beforehand. -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:34:29 +0100 Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > going from bug 209624 [1], I created a virtual/pager-0.ebuild file, > which transfers the old-style to a new-style virtual. Have I > forgotten a pager? Is there anyone in opposition to it? Is there any point to it existing at all? -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] Re: virtual/pager
Hi, Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > going from bug 209624 [1], I created a virtual/pager-0.ebuild file, > which transfers the old-style to a new-style virtual. Have I > forgotten a pager? Is there anyone in opposition to it? And now I really append the ebuild. V-Li -- Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode http://www.faulhammer.org/> pager-0.ebuild Description: Binary data signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] Re: virtual/pager
Hi, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:34:29 +0100 > Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > going from bug 209624 [1], I created a virtual/pager-0.ebuild file, > > which transfers the old-style to a new-style virtual. Have I > > forgotten a pager? Is there anyone in opposition to it? > Is there any point to it existing at all? base profile wants it...no other package seems to depend on it. V-Li -- Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode http://www.faulhammer.org/> signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] Gentoo at PyCon 2008 in Chicago
Greetings Gentoo Devs, I'm writing to let everyone know about a Gentoo Birds of a Feather at PyCon 2008 in Chicago. We have room Love Int'l A scheduled for Saturday, March 15, from 6PM to (PM (or later). Please post to this forum if you have a moment, and you are planning on attending PyCon. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-659597.html For more information on the conference see this site: http://us.pycon.org/2008/about/ And for other Open Spaces meetings see here: http://wiki.python.org/moin/Open_Space Early registration ends on 20 Feb. so be sure to get the discounted rate if you are planning on attending! Hope to see you there! Best Regards, QuantumSummers -- Matthew W. Summers Chief Executive Officer & Systems Engineer Liquidus Tech, LLC 309 N. Jefferson Ave. Suite 378 Springfield, MO 65806 (417) 894-2607 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.liquidustech.com -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
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Another slacker to join the ranks. Took 8 months for him to get the quizes done and reviewed but finally there. He will be working on multimedia ebuilds. Ben hails from Arnemuiden, NL. He should be a familiar nick for many from our IRC channels. As a tip to all of our female readers out there, he is single and plays the bass quitar. Let's see how long before he breaks the three, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-analyzer/cacti: ChangeLog metadata.xml cacti-0.8.7a-r2.ebuild cacti-0.8.6j-r8.ebuild cacti-0.8.7b.ebuild cacti-0.8.7a-r1.ebuild cacti-0.8
On 15:25 Sat 16 Feb , Peter Volkov wrote:
> В Чтв, 14/02/2008 в 23:19 -0800, Donnie Berkholz пишет:
> > > use bundled-adodb || phpUseFlags="${phpUseFlags} sockets"
> >
> > Why is bundling even an option? We should always force external packages
> > to be used, or we end up with more zlib messes.
>
> This does no harm and can help in situations when web-app upstream
> modified bundled adodb in non compatible way.
It does do harm. It prevents our package management system from doing
what it's there to do.
If they're modifying the bundled adodb incompatibly, then the USE flag
would also be obsolete because you'd need to force it to be bundled.
What would help more is a good swift kick in the pants to the people
doing the modifying to tell them to send their changes to adodb
upstream.
Thanks,
Donnie
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