[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-dicts/fantasdic and its ruby-gnome2 components

2013-08-14 Thread Hans de Graaff
# Hans de Graaff gra...@gentoo.org (14 Aug 2013) # Last release in 2009. ruby18-only. Uses deprecated # ruby-gnome2 components that have been removed upstream # quite some time ago. No maintainer. # Also remove the deprecated ruby-gnome2 components. # Masked for removal in 30 days.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changes in libreoffice ebuild

2013-08-14 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz schrieb: On 14:37 Tue 13 Aug , Rich Freeman wrote: If a maintainer is holding something up for months by all means escalate it if you think it is justified, but if a maintainer just wants a few days to look into things, that

[gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Michael Palimaka
Now that portage-2.2 is in ~arch, we should now be able to add sets to the tree. How should we go about doing this? In some overlays, the repository root has sets/{foo,bar,etc} and sets.conf which might look like this: [gentoo sets] class = portage.sets.files.StaticFileSet multiset = true

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote: Should everyone be free to add sets at will, or should each addition be discussed first, similar to adding new global USE flags? While I don't want to deter people from creating them, it probably wouldn't hurt to at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Sergey Popov
14.08.2013 16:05, Rich Freeman пишет: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote: Right now, however, it might be useful if only to get a sense for how they're being used, trade ideas, etc. Well, we can use sets as replacement for metapackages(for example,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-14, o godz. 16:53:17 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org napisał(a): 14.08.2013 16:05, Rich Freeman пишет: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote: Right now, however, it might be useful if only to get a sense for how they're being used,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Sergey Popov
14.08.2013 17:02, Michał Górny пишет: Dnia 2013-08-14, o godz. 16:53:17 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org napisał(a): 14.08.2013 16:05, Rich Freeman пишет: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote: Right now, however, it might be useful if only to get

[gentoo-dev] Re: Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 14/08/2013 23:02, Michał Górny wrote: No, we can't. Sets are portage-specific, the tree needs to follow PMS. Are you saying we can't use sets at all in the tree, or we can't use them to replace existing meta packages?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-14, o godz. 23:12:08 Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On 14/08/2013 23:02, Michał Górny wrote: No, we can't. Sets are portage-specific, the tree needs to follow PMS. Are you saying we can't use sets at all in the tree, or we can't use them to replace existing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: GLEP rap (Prefix/libc)

2013-08-14 Thread heroxbd
Dear Duncan, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net writes: heroxbd posted on Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:45:56 +0900 as excerpted: I have made a GLEP draft to standardize our recent effort on using our own libc from portage inside Prefix. At present only glibc on linux is supported. The rst text are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:07:32 +0400 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org wrote: I am all for the standarts, but as we did not brought sets to PMS yet(when we updated it for EAPI changes), my question is: 'why?'. It is one of the long-standing feature of quite experimental 2.2_alpha branch, that

Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge

2013-08-14 Thread heroxbd
Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us writes: I'm not a developer but this project's existence would motivate me to get a compatible smartphone and test this new Gentoo version on it, assuming it's also capable of standard phone calls and texts, etc. This assumption certainly holds firm. It is

Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge

2013-08-14 Thread heroxbd
Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org writes: Sounds good. Note that it doesn't need to be set up as against Canonical. Just do the best thing for the users. Thanks. I'd take your advice. I would like to kick out a sub-project of Gentoo targeting smartphone and tablets. It would be nice

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item: Language of compiler messages etc. in build logs

2013-08-14 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 22:59:49 +0200 Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: anymore but default to English. The intention behind this is to intention behind this is = rationale is have a hard time analyzing localized builds. analyzing localized builds = reading build logs in foreign

[gentoo-dev] Re: Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Duncan
Sergey Popov posted on Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:07:32 +0400 as excerpted: Why [were sets] not added as a part of the PMS? Some implementation flaws? Or maybe, architecture problems? [TL;DR folks, skip to last paragraph summary.] (As a user who has been using sets as they appear in the kde overlay

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:29:00 + (UTC) Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Sergey Popov posted on Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:07:32 +0400 as excerpted: Why [were sets] not added as a part of the PMS? Some implementation flaws? Or maybe, architecture problems? [TL;DR folks, skip to last paragraph

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/14/2013 10:17 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:07:32 +0400 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org wrote: I am all for the standarts, but as we did not brought sets to PMS yet(when we updated it for EAPI changes), my question is: 'why?'. It is one of the long-standing feature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/14/2013 09:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote: Right now, however, it might be useful if only to get a sense for how they're being used, trade ideas, etc. No, we can't. Sets are portage-specific, the tree needs to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:41:03 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 10:17 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:07:32 +0400 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org wrote: I am all for the standarts, but as we did not brought sets to PMS yet(when we updated it for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:41:56 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 09:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote: Right now, however, it might be useful if only to get a sense for how they're being used,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/14/2013 11:43 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:41:03 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 10:17 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:07:32 +0400 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org wrote: I am all for the standarts, but as we did not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changes in libreoffice ebuild

2013-08-14 Thread Luca Barbato
On 13/08/13 10:10, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: [3] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/gerrit And all boils down to the fact gerrit needs to be fixed to take patches from a mailing list or provide some sane alias to cope with it's specific ways... lu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/14/2013 11:44 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:41:56 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 09:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote: Right now, however, it might be useful if only

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:50:36 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 11:43 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:41:03 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 10:17 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:07:32 +0400 Sergey

[gentoo-dev] Re: Changes in libreoffice ebuild

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/13/2013 04:10 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: As per my comment in bugzilla [1] I said that the patch should be submitted upstream prior having it in cvs. Yet you decided to completely ignore my statement and just smash in the patch anyway [2]. Please don't do this ever again. We had

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.8 unmasking

2013-08-14 Thread Luca Barbato
On 14/08/13 01:40, Ryan Hill wrote: On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 07:13:13 +0200 Luca Barbato lu_z...@gentoo.org wrote: On 13/08/13 03:41, Ryan Hill wrote: I don't see any reason to keep this masked other than bug #416069, which needs to be fixed anyways. How does Friday sound?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:50:56 -0400 Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 11:41 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: On 08/14/2013 10:17 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:07:32 +0400 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org wrote: I am all for the standarts, but as we did

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:53:09 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 11:44 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:41:56 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 09:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Michael

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/14/2013 11:54 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:50:36 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 11:43 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:41:03 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 10:17 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 08/14/2013 11:41 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: On 08/14/2013 10:17 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:07:32 +0400 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org wrote: I am all for the standarts, but as we did not brought sets to PMS yet(when we updated it for EAPI changes), my question is:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On 14 August 2013 16:59, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 11:54 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:50:36 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 11:43 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:41:03 +0800 Patrick Lauer

[gentoo-dev] Package up for grab: app-laptop/prey

2013-08-14 Thread Tom Wijsman
The original maintainers of the package app-laptop/prey have decided[1] they do no longer want to maintain this package; therefore it has been assigned to maintainer-needed@g.o, if anyone is interested in maintaining this package then feel free to pick it up. It only has two bugs open at the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changes in libreoffice ebuild

2013-08-14 Thread Peter Stuge
Luca Barbato wrote: [3] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/gerrit And all boils down to the fact gerrit needs to be fixed to take patches from a mailing list Usually Gerrit just needs an OpenID in order to accept git push via SSH. That seems significantly better to me than

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:59:28 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: Uhm. Look at the class line. https://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/kde.git;a=blob;f=sets.conf;h=1f4c4263f48e5360606c1acc97fbab64b03541b7;hb=HEAD ... a static identifier. I would usually call that a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:56:09 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On 08/14/2013 10:17 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:07:32 +0400 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org wrote: Why it was not added as a part of the PMS? Some implementation

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:58:01 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:53:09 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 11:44 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:41:56 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: The discussion at stake here is Can we add sets to the tree? If so, should everyone be able to do that free or by prior discussion? and I don't think that any reply to this whole sub thread benefits anyone. So, I already

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 18:54:40 +0200 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:56:09 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On 08/14/2013 10:17 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:07:32 +0400 Sergey Popov

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:09:40 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: Er, look at the first post in the thread: That was about the repository, not about the PMS; the question was whether we need to respect the PMS and why it misses this _feature_, for which no proposed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:57:57 +0200 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:09:40 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: Er, look at the first post in the thread: That was about the repository, not about the PMS; the question was whether we need to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread hasufell
On 08/14/2013 03:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-08-14, o godz. 16:53:17 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org napisał(a): 14.08.2013 16:05, Rich Freeman пишет: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote: Right now, however, it might be useful if only

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/14/2013 09:28 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Using the conventional view of what a set is, the point is to allow you to mask, say, kde7 using a single line, and then define what kde7 is using a set. Then the user can unmask kde7 without having

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:34:51 +0200 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 03:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-08-14, o godz. 16:53:17 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org napisał(a): 14.08.2013 16:05, Rich Freeman пишет: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Michael Palimaka

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/14/2013 09:51 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Perhaps these basic notions of how Gentoo development works should be added to the new developer quiz, so we can be sure people understand the appropriate ways of making changes and where the power

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:53:26 +0200 Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 09:51 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Perhaps these basic notions of how Gentoo development works should be added to the new developer quiz, so we can be sure people

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread hasufell
On 08/14/2013 09:51 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:34:51 +0200 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 03:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-08-14, o godz. 16:53:17 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org napisał(a): 14.08.2013 16:05, Rich Freeman пишет: On Wed, Aug

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Zac Medico
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/14/2013 09:28 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Using the conventional view of what a set is, the point is to allow you to mask, say, kde7 using a single line, and then

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:28:02 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: [.. SNIP ..] Thank you. In order for sets to be added to the tree, we need a spec, we need to decide where sets are allowed (package.mask?), and we need an implementation. Sets in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:59:37 +0200 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: You're fundamentally misunderstanding how PMS and Gentoo development works. I think you are fundamentally misunderstanding. I think gentoo should stop supporting downstreams IF supporting them means blocking progress.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread hasufell
On 08/14/2013 10:07 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:59:37 +0200 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: You're fundamentally misunderstanding how PMS and Gentoo development works. I think you are fundamentally misunderstanding. I think gentoo should stop supporting downstreams

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 22:03:38 +0200 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: Using the conventional view of what a set is, But what kind of view would that be, a mathematical set, a set from a prior discussion or a completely different set? I assume the first one. The rather outdated GLEP 21

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On 14 August 2013 21:13, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 22:03:38 +0200 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: Using the conventional view of what a set is, But what kind of view would that be, a mathematical set, a set from a prior discussion or a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, hasufell wrote: And their lack of time (to be polite) should not block general progress in gentoo. Perhaps these basic notions of how Gentoo development works You certainly are not an authority when it comes to that question... Well no exactly Stop it. Now.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On 14 August 2013 21:17, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, hasufell wrote: And their lack of time (to be polite) should not block general progress in gentoo. Perhaps these basic notions of how Gentoo development works You certainly are not an authority when it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:16:18 +0100 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: My understanding is that the cvs tree should be PMS compatible and since 'sets' are not part of PMS that means that it would be wise not to use them yet. It is unfortunate that nobody seems to have realized that all

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
I've always found those class = something.that.is.clearly.portage.specific lines a bit of a bummer, since they're very tied to the internal functioning of portage and not a generic standard for how things should be defined. Before we add sets to the tree, maybe there should be some discussion

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread hasufell
On 08/14/2013 10:17 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, hasufell wrote: And their lack of time (to be polite) should not block general progress in gentoo. Perhaps these basic notions of how Gentoo development works You certainly are not an authority when it comes to that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 22:41:02 +0200 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Why don't you respond to my technical points then? PMS is blocking progress, again, because it does not reflect reality. I don't even see a reason why we should keep up that effort. PMS reflects the most recent Council

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On 14 August 2013 21:41, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 10:17 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, hasufell wrote: And their lack of time (to be polite) should not block general progress in gentoo. Perhaps these basic notions of how Gentoo development works

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-14, o godz. 16:56:09 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com napisał(a): On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:50:56 -0400 Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 11:41 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: On 08/14/2013 10:17 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013

Re: [gentoo-dev] punt PMS (was: Sets in the tree)

2013-08-14 Thread hasufell
On 08/14/2013 10:56 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: If you want PMS to go away, and call portage the one-and-true PM for Gentoo, then it's probably something for the Council to decide. I think that would make sense. We don't have enough resources for such fun and overcoming PMS burdens has been

Re: [gentoo-dev] punt PMS (was: Sets in the tree)

2013-08-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 00:19:40 +0200 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 10:56 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: If you want PMS to go away, and call portage the one-and-true PM for Gentoo, then it's probably something for the Council to decide. I think that would make sense. We

Re: [gentoo-dev] punt PMS (was: Sets in the tree)

2013-08-14 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-15, o godz. 00:19:40 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On 08/14/2013 10:56 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: If you want PMS to go away, and call portage the one-and-true PM for Gentoo, then it's probably something for the Council to decide. I think that would make

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/15/2013 04:21 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 14 August 2013 21:17, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, hasufell wrote: And their lack of time (to be polite) should not block general progress in gentoo. Perhaps these basic notions of how Gentoo development works

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/15/2013 04:21 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 14 August 2013 21:17, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, hasufell wrote: And their lack of time (to be polite) should not block general progress

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/15/2013 04:56 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 14 August 2013 21:41, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/14/2013 10:17 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, hasufell wrote: And their lack of time (to be polite) should not block general progress in gentoo. Perhaps these

Re: [gentoo-dev] punt PMS

2013-08-14 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/15/2013 01:23 AM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-08-15, o godz. 00:19:40 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On 08/14/2013 10:56 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: If you want PMS to go away, and call portage the one-and-true PM for Gentoo,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 07:42:21 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/15/2013 04:21 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 14 August 2013 21:17, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, hasufell wrote: And their lack of time (to be polite) should not block general

Re: [gentoo-dev] punt PMS

2013-08-14 Thread Tom Wijsman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 02:13:07 +0200 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: I have no idea what that means. Global changes are _always_ discussed in the community. PMS doesn't add anything to that process. It puts the consensus and / or decisions in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/15/2013 02:48 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: Multiple cases like mandating bash 3.2 that we don't even have in tree anymore, There is =app-shells/bash-3.2_p51 in the Portage tree. Fun facts: It is in unstable branch. So while I write ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-dev] punt PMS

2013-08-14 Thread hasufell
On 08/15/2013 02:52 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 02:13:07 +0200 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: I have no idea what that means. Global changes are _always_ discussed in the community. PMS doesn't add anything to that process. It puts the consensus and / or decisions in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changes in libreoffice ebuild

2013-08-14 Thread Luca Barbato
On 14/08/13 17:56, Peter Stuge wrote: Luca Barbato wrote: [3] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/gerrit And all boils down to the fact gerrit needs to be fixed to take patches from a mailing list Usually Gerrit just needs an OpenID in order to accept git push via SSH. That

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 07:50:16 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: Because if you want to allow multiple package managers as an option, If - but why would we do that? To give our users choice. http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/philosophy.xml

Re: [gentoo-dev] punt PMS

2013-08-14 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 02:56:18 +0200 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/15/2013 02:52 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 02:13:07 +0200 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: I have no idea what that means. Global changes are _always_ discussed in the community. PMS doesn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Tom Wijsman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 02:54:46 +0200 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/15/2013 02:48 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: Multiple cases like mandating bash 3.2 that we don't even have in tree anymore, There is =app-shells/bash-3.2_p51 in the

[gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH 0/3] Implement a more verbose User-Agent HTTP-header

2013-08-14 Thread Mark Kubacki
From: W-Mark Kubacki wm...@hurrikane.de Before this patch series Portage identified itself as Gentoo Portage Now it will be the output of ```emerge --version```, i.e.: Gentoo Portage 2.1.13.7 (default/linux/amd64/13.0, gcc-4.6.2, glibc-2.18, 3.9.0-rc8-mark-signed+ x86_64, Intel(R) Core(TM)

[gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH 2/3] Send output of ```emerge --version``` as User-Agent HTTP-header

2013-08-14 Thread Mark Kubacki
From: W-Mark Kubacki wm...@hurrikane.de The remote server logs will read like this: 2001:db8::4 - - [14/Aug/2013:20:58:02 +0200] GET /Packages HTTP/1.1 304 0 - Gentoo Portage 2.1.13.7 (default/linux/amd64/13.0, gcc-4.6.2, glibc-2.18, 3.9.0-rc8-mark-signed+ x86_64) This will enable

[gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH 1/3] Send exact version with User-Agent HTTP-header

2013-08-14 Thread Mark Kubacki
From: W-Mark Kubacki wm...@hurrikane.de Signed-off-by: W-Mark Kubacki wm...@hurrikane.de --- pym/portage/util/_urlopen.py | 3 ++- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/pym/portage/util/_urlopen.py b/pym/portage/util/_urlopen.py index 768ccb8..798e7b4 100644 ---

[gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH 3/3] Add CPU model name to output of getportageversion as fifth element

2013-08-14 Thread Mark Kubacki
From: W-Mark Kubacki wm...@hurrikane.de It will read like this: Portage 2.1.13.7 (default/linux/amd64/13.0, gcc-4.6.2, glibc-2.18, 3.9.0-rc8-mark-signed+ x86_64, Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770T CPU @ 2.50GHz) That new fifth element will be the CPU model name of the host running Portage. It is not