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On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 21:10 +0200, Torsten Veller wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wolf31o2
While I thank you for the nomination for next year's Gentoo Council, I
have decided that I no longer wish to be associated with the Gentoo
Council or any other form of "management" or &
was planning on
making a new profile tree. I wasn't planning on using it for 2007.1's
official media, though, but rather just /experimental stuff, since I'd
rather get much more testing on it before it goes "live" as the default.
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tion, or its capabilities. For the best
documentation, grab the tarball (or emerge catalyst) and look at the
examples.
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signa
reply-to munging in this case is appropriate IMO.
Correct. This actually *is* a good case for it, but, as you said,
List-Post is probably still better, if it weren't for some very popular
clients have abysmal list support.
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nd overridden on the command
line) so I don't have to remember to put --iamsureidontcareaboutsecurity
or whatever on the command line every time.
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On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 23:35 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:31:32 -0700
> Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 22:01 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > The specific underlying question being, what are the use case
GS/etc on multiple machines is an egregious waste of
resources, especially in a corporate environment where maintenance
windows simply aren't large enough to allow for a multiple-hour compile
job to run. Plus, who keeps GCC on their production servers,
anyway? ;]
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On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 05:32 +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> Hey,
>
> On E, 2007-06-18 at 11:34 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > Also, remember that stabilization is *supposed* to be about the
> > stabilization of the *ebuild* and not the *package* itself.
>
> This
megalomaniacs can possibly even imply that we owe them recognition on
every Linux system is beyond me. I'm just waiting for the annual "You
should change your name to Gentoo GNU/Linux" email. ;]
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e (which *is* against
policy and I suspect the reason this discussion was started).
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in from these kinds of "arguments" that have no technical
bearing. Internet Explorer doesn't even *run* on Gentoo. If it did, it
would likely be in the tree since quite a few people would likely use
it, even if just for testing. I know that if I were able to test things
on IE fro
x27;s nothing we
can do about the actual quality of the package. Having a working and
usable package, in this case, is more important than some policy which
is really designed for open source software.
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> > What happened to mjolnir (as in Martin Jackson) ? Didn't he also join the
> > bind
> > herd, to help you fix stuff ?
>
> I'm still here...somewhat arch-limited and having a real life too. :)
> The latest stabilization problems cropped up on arches I do
ho, for whatever reason, are not
> actually full scale developers.
I'm just asking, but isn't this exactly what Sunrise is supposed to be?
Isn't this the reason it was approved by the previous Council?
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On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 01:08 +0100, George Prowse wrote:
> from http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/coc.xml
Look at the Council logs from the CoC being approved and the ones since.
We asked for real guidelines so we could specifically avoid this sort of
problem from happening.
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personally, but I am not. I didn't mean it to be personal, and am not
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e proctors blind support.
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barriers, cultural differences etc. it's
> > difficult to judge.
> The guideline, as far as I understood it, was (and is?) to ban people who
> dont
> abide by the time-outs.
What guideline? Where is it? When was it approved by the Council, like
we had said that proctors pol
can't expect that to ever change.
> I apologise for the long mail but I wanted to state clearly and without
> too much emotions why I think we don't need the proctors and why we
> should thank them for attempting to bring some order to the chaos and
> give up on the concept
o morale and inter-developer trust. While the
individual members might be doing what they think is best and trying
their best, they've failed at the goals of improving our communications
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s, I no longer wish to be a part of Gentoo.
>
> While at this point there is very little chance of anyone convincing me to
> return, I hope that the people who can still derive enjoyment from Gentoo
> continue to do so.
>
> Infra, please remove my accounts at your earliest c
r the immediate disbanding of the Proctors.
As much as I dislike many of the posts from geoman/ciaranm, they really
had not done anything worthy of being banned. I ask that this ban is
undone *immediately* and that the Proctors have their powers revoked.
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y in the tree. I just
used it as a simple example. The point is that in cases where the herd
name doesn't equal the email address used for that herd, the maintainer
tag should probably be filled in with the proper email address.
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# Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (17 May 2007)
# Masked for removal, See bug #169546 for more information. Will be
removed on
# 17 Jun 2007.
games-fps/unreal-tounrament-infiltration
If you want to save this mod, rewrite the ebuild to use the zip version.
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change
> anything, just have stable keywords, and you mask that revision
> specifically.
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On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 20:33 +0200, Rémi Cardona wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > It's simple. You mask expat-2.0.0 on all the current profiles, we mark
> > it stable in the snapshot and don't have it masked in the 2007.1
> > profile. When we release (actu
using a <=2007.0 profile
never see the upgrade. New users use the new expat. Users changing to
the 2007.1 profile run revdep-rebuild.
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We're taking a couple months off. We deserve it. There's no way we're
making an August release. If you would have checked
http://releng.gentoo.org before asking, you wouldn't have needed to ask.
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gt; I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how you justify calling Java a
> dead language.
It's called baiting. He's purposefully calling Java dead in a
conversation with someone from the Java team in an attempt to bring on
an emotional response rather than technical. In case
On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 19:52 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 16 May 2007, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
>
> >> virtual/emacs
>
> > You made a new-style virtual with the same name as a package? This
> > can cause problems with binary packa
On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 20:08 +0200, Rémi Cardona wrote:
> Duncan wrote:
> > It's probably a bit late now (unless we want to wait yet another few
> > months), but tying this to a profile upgrade might have been a more
> > practical solution. 2007.0, or now 2007.1. Old profiles would stick
> > wi
On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 15:25 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 May 2007, Jakub Moc wrote:
>
> >> virtual/emacs
> >> virtual/flim
>
> > Oh, and naming the new-style virtuals the same as the real thing
> > kills binpkgs. :/
>
> Sorry, I don't get your point here.
>
> The "real thing"
On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 12:44 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> The Emacs team has converted the following virtual packages:
>
>virtual/emacs
You made a new-style virtual with the same name as a package? This can
cause problems with binary package usage, as you will now end up with
two packages w
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 15:50 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> I do not yet know how buildin an stage1 actually works
No offense, but before you suggest a change, shouldn't you try to
determine how and why things are done the way they are currently?
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cause upstream were being tools
about it. We still have cedega in the tree.
We also have *tons* of other commercial software in the tree.
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ase media. You want a function called dhcpcd
that runs with -I on the LiveCD? We can add that to root's .bashrc
easily on the CD. It also wouldn't populate into the installed
environment, since we don't copy root's .bashrc as our default is to not
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On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 20:43 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 04 May 2007 15:36:51 -0400
> Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The point of policy is *not* to impede progress. It is supposed to be
> > to provide our users the best quality distribution. I
. It is supposed to be
to provide our users the best quality distribution. If policy gets in
the way of progress without gain for our users, then the policy needs to
be revisited.
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ng ~arch for stable, since it is,
well, more stable.
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ut a particular
icon being used, it can be deferred to the trustees to determine.
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> [1]. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/artwork/index.xml
Please get with me some time over the next week as I'd like to discuss a
few things. We've been doing some artwork wrt our releases and would
*love* to have your project take over that work, which means I might
have a r
ons for many, IMHO.
Release Engineering has had labels for some time. It's just that nobody
asks for them. Look on the store for examples of what they look like.
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running around acting like the Council is doing
something wrong when they're doing their job. Honestly, all this has
done is made me not want to make any decisions, which will turn us into
the previous leadership, which I don't blame for the inaction from their
group, as that was all th
On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 09:35 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> Hereby I would like to request the counsel to discuss this mini-GLEP in
> the first meeting for which this request is in time.
You got this in just in time for the next Council meeting.
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y, nevermind. I digress. You're right. The Council screwed up.
Feel free to give us all our 50 lashings and we'll be done with this
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ld like an answer
> to my question, that is all.
I've answered it to the best of my ability and it is hard to not get
defensive when every decision your group makes is attacked on multiple
fronts by people that put you in the position to make those exact same
decisions. It really has m
sing its power.
Welcome to the story of the developers that cried "abuse"...
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ers of... nothing. Now, if only we can get
all these pesky developers out of the way, we could rule the world!
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(Ashamed to call myself a de
ever would have even known that someone requested
the package get keyword changes.
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e. Again, I ask everyone to quit
being so confrontational and quit trying to prove other people wrong or
otherwise try to be argumentative just for the sake of being
argumentative. We really don't need such behavior in what is supposed
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; quite some time).
Finally! Another minion^Wvolunteer joins the fold. Welcome to the
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On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 11:36 +0100, Steve Long wrote:
> And from the comments of others, *he gets the result*.
So what?
We are a community. We cannot allow poisonous attitudes to flourish in
our community, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR CONTRIBUTION.
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On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 09:50 +0200, Christian Faulhammer wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to add a comment to the gtk2 USE flag description in
> use.desc stating that is deprecated. Any objections?
Please do.
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On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 21:53 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
> On 2007.04.18 12:49, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 10:30 +0200, Wernfried Haas wrote:
> > > blackace, jmbsvicetto, marienz, pilla and mark_alec.
> >
> > Are they at least wearing differen
eate (and save) an advanced search that will
> > filter them out, while still being able to check them in a different
> > search. Might be also useful for arch teams to separate stabling and
> > keywording bugs?
>
> I think that's a great idea. Who do we bug to get this in
On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 10:30 +0200, Wernfried Haas wrote:
> blackace, jmbsvicetto, marienz, pilla and mark_alec.
Are they at least wearing different color outfits so we can tell them
apart?
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of the
great things about Gentoo, our ability to teach people how to think
differently and work differently.
Of course, it isn't my call. ;]
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say something along the lines of
"last architecture to stable, please remove $ebuild when you're done" on
the bugs in question.
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On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 11:19 +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 April 2007 01:10:20 Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> [ ... ]
>
> > Yeah, ulimit won't do it. We hit this issue with mimedefang, actually.
> > Our problem is that the kernel is doing the limiting.
On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 05:03 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 07:50:58AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 05:41 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > > Anybody that feels like inspecting C code, look at mlmmj-1.2.14/src.
> > >
pen? We have had a similar
problem at my current employer.
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t you guys switch off reply-to munging, already?!
> http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_120444.xml
http://dev.gentoo.org/~wolf31o2/xml/reply-to.xml for those of you that
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his since
every single task has to be duplicated for every architecture.
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o answer the
floods of questions we *used* to get when we posted dates everywhere.
The nature of the tree simply makes it impossible for us to accurately
estimate a release date. This release we even went so far as to create
a completely new snapshot due to there being so many changes necessary
On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 20:23 +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > I'm simply amazed at the level of complete and total bullshit that some
> > people spout off on this list without bothering to check facts or take
> > 3 seco
You can blame the abnormally high number of security
vulnerabilities in large packages for the delays. Also, the dates given
on the Release Engineering pages are nothing more than guesses made by
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are still some things that are sent to -core that
don't need to be, but the volume has come way down from the worst prior
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#x27;t had much sex on this list, or we'd all have left
long ago. :P
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On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 20:37 +0200, Jan Kundrát wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > What "news" exactly? That catalyst still supports a code branch it's
> > had for some time now? *grin* There's nothing "new" to report.
>
> I've been
On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 17:45 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:31:01 -0400
> Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That's really the point here. You should *never* have to contact the
> > maintainer first for minor QA issues like changi
ges ahead of time so they know where
to focus their time.
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On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 17:15 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:04:15 -0400
> Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Just because stuff isn't maintained doesn't mean that it's not being
> > > used, and if it's
On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 18:13 +0200, Jan Kundrát wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > Wow. I'm glad to see that yet another thing I spend so much time
> > working on is marginalized or otherwise discounted because someone
> > couldn't take 3 seconds to check their f
#x27;ve come up with
plenty of things that once discussed with someone else, turn out to be
complete crap. ;]
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r package foo is
being renamed bar, then I would fully expect you to change all instances
of foo in dependencies in the tree to bar, as it really only "affects"
you since it was your package that changed. If you're adding a new
default local USE that only affects your package, ther
ed, and if it's not broken I fail to see why it should be removed.
I've seen many times people say "well, this hasn't been touched
since..." when a package has no bugs. Of *course* it hasn't been
touched. It just works. I wouldn't be surprised if there were
s like to me
there would be no change in how we operate currently.
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organization will solve
our most pressing current issues. I'd rather clean the house up a bit
before we decide to try to remodel it.
The ideas of having differing metrics for different packages is really a
good one. It doesn't require overlays to accomplish, either. The only
real
obal problems, and forcing lots of individual
groups to reinvent the wheel and tackle the same problems individually?
Where are all of the unofficial projects going to get infrastructure
from? Mirror space?
Who is going to what is considered "Gentoo" and what isn't?
How is this going to im
On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 00:17 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti:
> > On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 23:34 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
> >> Then we require this file to be updated
> >> monthly. What do you think?
> >
> > I think Release Engineerin
On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 00:41 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti:
> > On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 22:50 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> it's just so easy to step on other
> >> ppls feet these days ;)
> >
> > I tend to agree that
page
- maintain said parser
when we could simply have a single page for everybody to edit with the
given information?
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ypo fixes due to the territoriality of some
of our developers. We need to fix this and have a more open and
welcoming feeling for new developers and old developers alike.
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n a regular cycle.
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ndependent projects with no central
authority make Gentoo better?
Will it make the distribution better for our users?
Reading back over your proposal with my questions in mind leaves me with
exactly one last question.
What, exactly, is your proposal supposed to actually accomplish?
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Does this mean we're hosting the project now?
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On Sat, 2007-04-07 at 19:16 +0100, George Prowse wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 09:45 -0700, Ned Ludd wrote:
> >
> >> Here is what I'm doing these days..
> >>
> >
> > Let's see. I'm currently lea
n go to the gentoo-council mailing
list. Topics to be discussed with/about the Trustees or the Foundation
should go to gentoo-nfp.
I think we all should do our part in asking people to keep things on
topic, and for discussions to move to the proper lists. If it isn't
about development, i
he Catalyst
Reference Manual, which I expect to have ready soon to allow me to
stabilize catalyst 2.0.x and finally put catalyst 1.x to pasture.
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ing
as publicly as possible. It keeps complete wastes of time like this
current thread from cropping up as easily, for one.
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equences for doing. I'm sticking with my principles and simply
ignoring the continued noise on this subject.
If anyone feels like talking to me about it, they can contact me
privately so we can have a secret conspiracy discussion that nobody else
knows about. Oh noes! Cabal! *roll eyes*
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On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 09:04 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 16:00 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> >> Honestly, the only reason there is any suggestion of a conspiracy is
> >> because of the threats being made by certa
How
much plainer do I have to make it? We can not, and WILL NOT break that
trust. It really is that simple.
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that being a whiny bitch and trying to pressure people into doing
something will get people what they want. I surely don't want to set
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al and political things within
> Gentoo itself. I could be wrong about this, but that's how I read it.
Correct. Currently, the Council (or anyone, really) would have to do
something to endanger our copyrights, trademarks, or our legal standing
for the trustees to do anything.
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quot; and actually try to
enact some good, and when we do, you hear a few vocal individuals
running around screaming like we killed their kitten. So which is it?
Would you rather have a strong Council that is capable of making
decisions without having to worry about whether that decision is popular
ing to
test it with a newer git that does this well, then that is something we
can look at as something that has changed.
> I also learned that darcs does not support enough architectures, most
> importantly mips. Therefore
> I'd like to know what architectures need to be supported by a cand
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message without even reading it or giving it a second thought.
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Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering Strategic Lead
Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams
Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee
Gentoo Foundation
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itical or personal, about given SCM software. I honestly
don't care what anybody *thinks* about any particular SCM. I am
interested in the facts and numbers. I don't have much preference
myself other than that I already know CVS/SVN. If we were to make a
change, even to SVN, I'd
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