ll them.
We'd just need a developer who's experienced in maintaining and
setting them up.
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idate the
disparate group types into a single group. They all serve the same
function: to tie a group of people to a Single Point of Contact to
make it easier to communicate. herds.xml and extant aliases do that
for us. Most of the work's already done; it just needs some tweaking.
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On 09/19/2015 05:12 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 09/19/2015 05:16 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
>>
>> We'd just need a developer who's experienced in maintaining and
>> setting them up.
>>
>
> Has anyo
y not sure how
to implement a GitLab or Gerrit instance while hooking into the
filesystem. Allowing users to open accounts in order to post bugs, etc
just isn't a great idea, imo, and duplicates the effort that already
exists in Bugzilla. Maybe it'd be smarter to find a way to `git-am`
patches from
'm part of the Portage team, but I am somewhat
interested in learning more about how it works. Which parts in
particular need the most attention? I'd be willing to help out if it's
anything I have a shot at understanding. :)
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tcl/tk but it's been an idle curiosity of
mine. Are there any particularly important packages that run on them?
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ackages seem to be somewhat
low-maintenance. I'm looking for a job closer to home, so when I get
one I'll have more time to work on Gentoo. I'll add myself to herd and
alias, if we have one. When I get the chance, I'll learn more about
tcl/tk.
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d user issues.
If I'm missing some detail that doesn't make my idea any good, please
tell me. It doesn't seem like trouble from where I'm looking.
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gt;
> Refs. [1] https://grsecurity.net [2]
> https://grsecurity.net/announce.php
>
Looks like a good write-up to me. Concise and clear, with the URL for
those who care enough about the fiasco.
However, does this mean the hardened kernel package must stay in ~arch
since it's technica
o only get `git log`
results from a specific directory or package? I'm aware we could pipe
git log to grep, but that seems hackish, like git has a better way to
isolate log entries.
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a unique match.
git show 3a8d9727
That'll show where Manifests were updated, variables changed in
ebuilds, and so on.
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So the workflow is basically `git log -- category/package/`, find a
commit that looks interesting, then `git show commit-id` to look at
what it did.
It's actually mu
that* shiny, that we need to start using
> it prior to stable Portage supporting it. It's a potential mess for
> a huge portion of our users.
>
>
> That said, I'd like to extend my thanks to Micha? for working on
> this.
>
>
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said, I wouldn't feel comfortable writing EAPI 6 ebuilds on
packages with any stable dependencies. At least for the time being; I
wouldn't want to disturb stable users. But once EAPI 6-compatible
portage is stabilized, I see no issue.
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was thinking of establishing a LICENSEDIR that would
> contain copies or symlinks to all needed licenses, both in source
> and binary installs.
>
> [snip]
>
I have no opinions on the others since I'm still rather inexperienced,
but LICENSEDIR seems like a sane solution to
hat *does* seem like the saner, standard
route to go about things.
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sbin for
> some fun reason yet work for normal users.
>
> But well, I'm the weird one wanting to be able to check how much
> free space I've got without going through hoops.
>
Maybe I'm missing something, but `df` is in /bin. Do you use something
else to determine
t; Please consider this an official announcement and request for
> comment related to establishing a new project.
>
> References: [0] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Crypto
>
>
Sounds good to me. I have a passing interest in crypto, so where do I
sign? :)
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;-).
>
Sounds fine to me. It's annoying when I come across something that
breaks my deptree, and I don't want my packages to break things,
either. No complaints here, as long as it's clear what the screw-up is.
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I believe one other person helped me out,
too. I went to #gentoo-keys and you guys went over it step by step.
It looks like my key is still good, too.
If you need any help with the project, Brian, I wouldn't mind
contributing. Specifically the documentation. I'd just need an idea of
atic, or is there something besides repoman that
developers should be adding to their workflow to reduce the odds of
issues? I care about building a better tree and writing better builds,
but I haven't found much in the way of a "Gentoo QA Guide" that would
help a developer like me not make
;re one of the
people who helped me become a developer, so I really appreciate what
you did for me and what you do for Gentoo!
Here's hoping you get back to us soon! :)
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st feel the
tone should be a bit more "keep it to the facts". Otherwise, it looks
good to me. :)
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was worth a private
conversation instead of airing dirty laundry)
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On 01/16/2016 05:17 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> On 01/16/2016 04:41 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>
>> I emailed Julian earlier today and asked him to come back. He
>> state in no uncertain terms that he d
dy guide:
>
> https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html
>
> For more information on all the new features, start here:
>
> https://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/new_features_2_4.html
>
> ===
>
> A bit more concise and less personal. Better?
>
> Cheers,
th that, and let the community speak for themselves. If
packages die, it's because no developer wants to or can maintain it
and nobody in the community wanted to step up. Those that care can put
them into an overlay or step up and contribute.
My apologies if I'm coming off harsh. I d
ebuild development, and now that the gentoo repo is in git, any
ebuilds that get treecleaned can be fetched again through history, and
users can then add those to their personal overlay(s) and keep the
piece if they break.
I like the idea of encouraging people to learn good e
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>On 28 May 2016 at 11:14, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>> Markos is not having much time to handle his packages and, then, he
>> would like to get other people involved in them. The idea is to keep
>> him in met
On June 1, 2016 7:29:55 AM PDT, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
>Hello,
>
>So here's something more simple wrt GUI USE flags.
>
>Global USE=gui for
>gui - enable an optional graphics user interface or extra GUI tool
>
>(wording improvements welcome, once it's in principle agreed; but no
>point in bikeshed pa
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On June 1, 2016 6:46:28 AM PDT, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
>Ühel kenal päeval, K, 01.06.2016 kell 15:18, kirjutas Dirkjan Ochtman:
>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Michał Górny
>> wrote:
>> > Excuse me but are you really serious? We are in this swamp b
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>Hello, everyone.
>
>I have the pleasure to announce that a few improvements have been
>deployed by the Repository mirror & CI project today.
>
>
>1. The mirror for 'gentoo' repository [1] now ha
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On June 30, 2016 6:19:23 AM PDT, "Michał Górny" wrote:
>On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 05:55:42 -0700
>Daniel Campbell wrote:
>
>> On 06/30/2016 05:38 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
>> > Hello, everyone.
>> >
>>
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On October 23, 2016 11:29:49 PM PDT, "Michał Górny" wrote:
>Dnia 24 października 2016 07:32:26 CEST, Daniel Campbell
> napisał(a):
>>On 10/19/2016 02:10 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Oct
t; support and development, #gentoo-mate.
>
> Any feedback regarding the aforementioned would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>
The wiki page says "Gentoo Gnome Project" in the description. Typo?
I also think you mean an IRC channel, not an e-mail channel.
Nitpicks aside, I think
; changelogs again
>
> I've allocated time for an 8 hour freeze, but hope to be completed
> much sooner than that.
>
This is great news! I assume docs have been written for git-commit
standards as well?
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cgi?id=426944 [4]
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468600 [5]
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468604
>
What would a migration be like? For example, I manage filesystems
exclusively through fstab (to my knowledge). Would this be useful for,
say, mounting over the network?
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On 07/28/2015 06:57 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 07:25:20PM -0700, Daniel Campbell (zlg)
> wrote:
>> What would a migration be like? For example, I manage
>> filesystems exclusively through fstab (to my
;
> the output will be evaluated. This simple solution will enable the
> service to be generic and provide flexible pure configuration
> (whatever we choose), while support any source of information that
> is capable of constructing this configuration.
>
> Loose no
; implementation over others - set USE=qt if all you care about is qt
> support."
>
I like this idea. USE=qt for all apps that optionally support or need
it, qt4/qt5 for apps that support both. We can default to qt5 and
users can still choose qt4 if they prefer it.
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es supporting both qt4 and qt5, but I see little
> practical need for that.
>
> So I propose to add somewhere to devmanual/policies the following
> recommendation: "If package supports several versions of the same
> technology (e.g. qt4 and qt5) and more than one is enabled b
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On 08/03/2015 12:47 AM, Brian Dolbec wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 00:22:42 -0700 "Daniel Campbell (zlg)"
> wrote:
>
>
>> I'm having a hard time understanding why we need daemons to
>> handle our filesystems.
else who's worked on the Git
migration. It's not a trivial undertaking and I look forward to
working on ebuilds with Git! The workflow wiki page is very helpful;
I've added it to my Watchlist so I can stay up to date on changes.
Than
t;>> guideline [0] to the wiki as well, so that it is clear that we
>>> also allow/use Acked-by, Reviewed-by, Suggested-by and
>>> whatnot.
>>>
>>> I'll wait for more ++ though.
>>
>> I like Gentoo-Bug. Much nice
;
> Just no magical numbers which are meaningless without the context.
>
The issue with linking is that we may not be using show_bug.cgi (or
'id' in GET) forever. Bug numbers would be feasible to migrate outside
of Bugzilla, and technically a webserver can be used to translate
thos
uired as long as Gentoo-Bug: or the bug's number is in the
description/summary.
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sync, etc. I imagine that this is
> a configuration that many developers will tend to use, and with
> the advent of git we may see more users who tend to contribute
> doing the same.
>
++
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of the arguments:
[snip]
/usr/bin/keychain --agents ssh,gpg ~/.ssh/id_rsa ${GPGKEY}
source ~/.keychain/sporkbox-sh > /dev/null
source ~/.keychain/sporkbox-sh-gpg > /dev/null
[snip]
For some reason, it's important that ssh comes before gpg. I got this
advice straight from drobbins,
yngwin Gentoo developer
>>
>
>
I'm interested in this meeting as well, as maintainer of a package
that can be built with one of two toolkit versions. At the moment, I'm
using REQUIRED_USE with a preference preset for users that don't care,
but it does cause a problem wh
equire extra effort when 'assigning' PRs but at least I
> don't have to lookup the same people over and over again.
>
> With some Wiki people help, we could even implement updating
> GitHub teams automatically following Wiki member changes.
>
> Your thoughts?
&
it can make a few hundred KB difference. When expanded, that number
multiplies. Is it worth adding this extra bloat to something that a
standard utility can expose better than a hash?
Just my two cents.
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ntainer
> to make that decision? Regardless of where non-devs develop
> packages for gentoo, using gitignore might be useful during the
> development of the packages, particularly if it is destine for the
> portage tree (eventually).
>
> Apologies in advance if I have missed
now*, but it would be going forward
and still meets the needs of understanding what and where work needs
to be done.
I have a 10 day work week coming up soon so I can't work on it
immediately, but I wouldn't mind assisting in the creation of this tool.
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jects) full URI
> should be used.
>
>
> Best regards, Andrew Savchenko
>
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re that way, I'd gladly help out with that.
As it stands, I haven't figured out how to get a few games I'd like to
see in the tree (Wizorb and A Virus Named Tom). With the games.eclass
deprecated, I don't really have a "good practice" guide for making
gaming ebuilds.
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On 08/21/2015 03:31 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 4:31 AM, Daniel Campbell (zlg)
> wrote:
>> Based on what I'm seeing in this thread, the problem seems to
>> center around the description and applic
if it's defunct, I
want to see what's necessary to fix it. I'm still a new dev (May
2015), but I wouldn't mind doing some dirty work if it means we can
put squabbles like this behind us and get enough devs together to give
game ebuilds the attention they deserve. I don't h
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On 08/21/2015 02:09 PM, James Le Cuirot wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 12:42:07 -0700 "Daniel Campbell (zlg)"
> wrote:
>
>>> Sure, we did drop this, but I don't really see this line of
>>> argument
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On 08/22/2015 04:10 AM, hasufell wrote:
> On 08/22/2015 09:33 AM, Daniel Campbell (zlg) wrote:
>> On 08/21/2015 02:09 PM, James Le Cuirot wrote:
>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 12:42:07 -0700 "Daniel Campbell (zlg)"
>>>
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I don't see why backwards compatibility would be a problem. The older news
format spec supports fewer features, so the new spec should be much like newer
EAPIs and 'just work'.
I'm in favor of all the changes you laid out. A good number of us are
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