Hi Grant, Rémi and Yuri,
On 25-04-2007 20:30:45 -0500, Yuri Vasilevski wrote:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:39:47 +0200
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Grant Goodyear a écrit :
Fabian Groffen wrote: [Sat Apr 14 2007, 03:33:03AM CDT]
For people that like reading it in html or via
are
using muttng now, consider moving to the latest Mutt.
Please speak up now if there are major reasons to keep muttng in the
tree, despite being unmaintained and out of date.
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over. Removal after 30 days.
On 26-05-2007 10:52:07 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
Hi all,
mail-client/muttng currently sits in the tree as some sort of orphan.
It used to be a fork of Mutt, having many patches applied
it in the back of your head when designing new profile
structures, such that it in some way or another can be put into the
model using the same structure.
Thanks
[1]
http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/alt/browser/trunk/prefix-overlay/profiles/default-prefix
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On 29-07-2007 22:26:54 +0200, Christian Heim wrote:
...
So please welcome Dimitry as a new (old) fellow developer among us !
Welkom!
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making binaries more
resistant to a library SONAME changes [1].
While this is sort of the end result, I'd suggest making a more correct
statement here, like and more importantly possibly reducing breakage of
binaries and libraries after a library SONAME changes.
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year?
chances are reasonable I will be there, and if we get a devroom, I can
give a talk on some to be defined subject for sure
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a ChangeLog
entry, but I think it should refrain if the ChangeLog has been modified.
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in keeping them
around for any platform at all).
Maybe it is necessary for our static-libs only platform(s).
In any case, a switch that can e.g. also be controlled through a profile
sounds like a nice thing if you people are going to push this forward.
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| ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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() {
+ tc-export CC
+ econf
+}
+
src_install() {
- dobin aggregate aggregate-ios
- doman aggregate.1 aggregate-ios.1
- dodoc LICENSE HISTORY
+ dobin aggregate aggregate-ios || die
+ doman aggregate{,-ios}.1
+ dodoc HISTORY
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, or find them too slow/bothersome),
because you can't tell others they don't do things you don't bother to
do yourself either, do you?
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. It's likely
to give problems with filesystems, and much more, such as scripts
looking at grep's output for instance.
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result somewhere at the top. (Last time
I needed it, I couldn't find it any more.)
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role in this.
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think new package releases should be announced on
these developer-related lists.
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On 20-01-2011 21:47:19 +0100, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
On 01/20/11 21:38, Fabian Groffen wrote:
Like Jeroen, I don't think new package releases should be announced on
these developer-related lists.
It's not about the package, it's about the release itself.
I don't send mails on package
is already EAPI 0?
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for approval.
* The QA team will work with Recruiters to keep related documentation and
quizzes up to date, so that up and coming developers will have access to
all
of the necessary information to avoid past problems.
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their own
replacements then, do you?
If QA were just a normal team like most others, I couldn't care less
about how they are chosen and who is their lead.
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be a common process
across all of Gentoo.
I already think there's too much time wasted on bureaucratic stuff that
distracts us from actually getting work done.
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On 04-02-2011 03:26:16 +0100, Christian Ruppert wrote:
b) gentoo-comm...@lists.gentoo.org/mailinglist commit mails.
Thanks a ton, this is really appreciated!
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caring about them.
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roughly one year after no
affected package is in tree anymore.
Well, it's not too bad lately:
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-announce/
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a security vulnerability
until the vulnerability is patched in the tree AND the notice to
update has been sent out.
Excellent, take this up with the security team. Reevaluate which archs
are security supported, and see if you can get a timeout policy
implemented.
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-configured with the right options) is useful for certain
scenarios, and I would like to give it a shot to see how easy such thing
could be provided.
The installer in mind here, would also possibly work for Gentoo Prefix
bootstraps, for which we would use a bootstrap cd.
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it anyway, so why bothering trying to
cover their needs, it would be a straight way to fail again.
Just FYI:
Interestingly, it were the power/experienced users that requested a
simple installer, because they got tired of copypaste-ing the same
commands from the manual over and over again.
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files.
Is there any resource you can point me to where it explains more
carefully why and when this has changed?
1.2 profiles/prefix/darwin/macos/10.4/x86/make.defaults
-USE=${USE} mmx mmxext sse sse2
+USE=mmx mmxext sse sse2
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we needed it in
order to have USE-flags retained.
Thanks
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-through-couple-of-times before you
can access bugzilla is sort of annoying
As outsider, I don't like to accept another certificate thing, just to
view a bugtracker.
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On 07-03-2011 16:52:23 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
In any case, I don't see poor browser design as a valid reason for
avoiding the use of SSL...
Please use a MUA that properly honours Reply-To: headers. I'm on the
list.
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On 07-03-2011 17:25:02 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote:
As outsider, I don't like to accept another certificate thing, just to
view a bugtracker.
if we're only forcing *login*, then this isnt an issue
+1
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the literal '*' and
hence will return /foo/bar/* in link_source.
So make sure you check the existence of whatever is in link_source
before using it.
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clear enough. It seems the mp3 USE-flag is
overloaded with multiple functions, this is likely the cause of the
problem here.
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On 31-03-2011 09:41:10 +0200, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
Dne 31.3.2011 09:33, Fabian Groffen napsal(a):
On 31-03-2011 09:23:16 +0200, justin wrote:
instead of the default
mp3 - Add support for reading mp3 files
I find the default clear enough. It seems the mp3 USE-flag is
overloaded
for two different things, which is wrong if the flag is global.
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#
# = HANDLING OF METADATA
=
#
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on prefix systems?
does such thing exist?
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that in most cases this makes finding the real error
easier. Has the drawback that it isn't always perfect/working, and that
one has to use a separate tool (or emerge --report-bug or something).
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a sample of the script output for net-p2p/transmission
for convenience.
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cvsps2changelog.sh
Description: Bourne shell script
ChangeLog.gen
Description: GENbank data
that you just think
removal information isn't useful to anyone. This argument is too funny
to be taken serious.
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On 01-05-2011 17:04:18 +0400, Peter Volkov wrote:
В Вск, 01/05/2011 в 12:25 +, Fabian Groffen (grobian) пишет:
grobian 11/05/01 12:25:59
Fix econf call for Prefix: don't mix Prefix compatible and incompatible
code
src_configure() {
econf \
- --libdir
On 01-05-2011 14:55:24 +, Duncan wrote:
Fabian Groffen posted on Sun, 01 May 2011 12:00:17 +0200 as excerpted:
Attachment not shown: MIME type chemical/x-genbank; filename
ChangeLog.gen
Had to laugh at that one. =:^)
Apologies, the .gen extension apparently made the MIME match
On 01-05-2011 19:43:48 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
My personal feeling is that we should keep the changelogs as-is, and
include removals, until we're on git. Then we should re-evaluate.
git doesn't magically solve all the problems!
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since his last update.
How about forgetting the time constraint, but just keeping all changelog
entries for all ebuilds that are in the tree?
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to write an intermediate file.
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On 21-05-2011 19:34:34 +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
On Fri, 20 May 2011 17:56:00 +0200
Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote:
sed -e pattern ${file} | diff ${file} -
followed by the actual sed -i -e ...
This way I didn't need to write an intermediate file.
The problem
/master/sci-
mathematics/sage/sage-4.7.ebuild
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, and ChangeLogs will be
used entirely to convey information to users.
I don't see how that simplifies. I only see how that would completely
change things/intents. Can you elaborate?
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# ChangeLog for sys-apps/openrc
# Copyright 1999-2011 Gentoo Foundation
the ability to edit the ChangeLog
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made of constructive, and sort of
objective replies. It would be nice, and probably most useful for the
council, if we could keep it this way.
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?
I guess figuring out something here is useful both now as well as in the
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(as nominated for
next meeting) thread, but disregarded as unnecessary bureaucratic
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approach, simply
detecting binaries that depended on now-absent libs and rebuilding them
to depend on what's currently available instead.
Yup, but when the library is already gone, you sometimes cannot run the
necessary tools any more. Funny one is bash, for instance.
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specify ranges and more should just go, to be replaced by something
which is much less powerful in expressiveness, but much easier to
understand in the general picture, such as the USE-flags from the ruby
eclass.
Just my €0.02
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, as some platforms have options
for their toolchain that includes colons.
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+character is a vertical bar: '|' (the pipe).
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it possible
to have no openrc, or some openrc-light, then that would certainly
improve things from our perspective.
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On 04-07-2011 16:23:11 -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 07:56:25PM +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
Just one little note, which is that Prefix is stuck with a modified
version of baselayout-1. If your virtual is going to make it possible
to have no openrc, or some openrc
On 05-07-2011 03:00:27 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Monday, July 04, 2011 13:56:25 Fabian Groffen wrote:
Just one little note, which is that Prefix is stuck with a modified
version of baselayout-1.
why ?
Because original baselayout-1 doesn't compile, and we don't need all it
provides
On 02-06-2011 11:13:38 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
Following up on the recent discussions about ChangeLogs, and what should
be in there, versus what not, this email tries to describe the pros and
cons of the frequently mentioned generation of ChangeLogs from the VCS
we use.
I would like
are drawbacks to this system as well. I, however, only
see big advantages for the moment.
Comments, thoughts, ideas welcome.
[1] http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/
[2] http://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html
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requires centralised administration to ensure
minimal incidents in the infrastructure mechanisms.
Absolutely. Typically the rsync generation file is in its own repo, and
requires as much centralisation as the current CVS tree, or the proposed
git variant of that tree.
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On 07-08-2011 00:07:41 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote:
In short, the repo-per-package model means that each package
(my-cat/package) is a separate repository in some VCS.
Instead of having a huge tree that will only
desireable.
Git submodules fit the bill perfectly.
I assumed something like this possible to be able to get all easily or
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git is inefficient. I think our current model is not
very flexible. An alternatives like the one I proposed solves certain
problems that currently exist within Gentoo.
[1] http://stats.prefix.freens.org/timing-rsync0.png
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On 06-08-2011 20:55:05 +, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 04:13:52PM +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
In this email, I step away from the current model that Gentoo uses for
the gentoo-x86 repository. Instead, I consider a repo-per-package
model, as in use by e.g. Fedora [1
On 07-08-2011 11:21:51 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote:
This can be done with a single commit to the rsync tree script, and it
doesn't necessarily need git repos.
And have you considered the function PoV on this?
With clean git repo: few commits, git
, and many
people seem to intend doing things with a git-based tree that cannot be
done with now CVS, and an assembled tree wouldn't really support it out
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-}
else
CMAKE_USE_DIR=${S}/src
fi
fi
if-elif-else-fi.
This sounds like a kind of bogus suggestion to me. Mixing use of [ and
[[, on the other hand, is more what deserves attention here.
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On 18-08-2011 20:42:23 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
elif [[ ${PN} != leechcraft-core ]]; then
CAKE_USE_DIR=${S}/src/plugins/${PN#leechcraft-}
Don't quote that. It looks bad that the left-side is unquoted and right
side is quoted.
it's a string, what's the problem?
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On 18-08-2011 21:41:47 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 20:43:59 +0200
Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 18-08-2011 20:42:23 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
elif [[ ${PN} != leechcraft-core ]]; then
CAKE_USE_DIR=${S}/src/plugins/${PN#leechcraft
.
*) And in the next step, after showing the data set(s): Send? [y/n]
(why do all those words have to start with an 's'??)
send
display/view
later
:)
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-ext_add_extension() {
debug-print-function ${FUNCNAME} $@
local ext=$1
local tmpdir=$(mktemp -d --tmpdir=${T})
Isn't it just as important to doublequote ${T} as it is to doublequote
${D}?
yes
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their CFLAGS,
and nothing else. Setting USE=custom-cflags there just overrides
upstream's flags in that case, which means you can expect upstream to
immediately flag any question/bug/complaint as invalid.
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# ChangeLog for dev-libs/libffi
# Copyright 1999-2011 Gentoo Foundation; Distributed under the GPL v2
+
+ 06 Sep 2011; Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org -libffi-3.0.9.ebuild,
+ -libffi-3.0.10_rc8.ebuild:
+ [This is a placeholder. Please ignore.]
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On 08-09-2011 14:54:24 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 09/06/2011 11:31 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
On 06-09-2011 20:24:54 +, Samuli Suominen wrote:
Modified: ChangeLog
Removed: libffi-3.0.10_rc8.ebuild libffi-3.0.9.ebuild
Log:
[This is a placeholder. Please ignore
up, as decided by the
Council in their last meeting. So also to you, please write a sensical
commit message, please, or just don't make a separate commit for
removals, which avoids the entire problem. (Weren't you both
complaining about the speed of echangelog and repoman commit?)
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uses for its own services and graphical stuff. So, /System doesn't
hide any BSD-nature to me. It's true that a normal user really has
nothing to do in /System.
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} ]] and [[ ! ${foo} ]]?
The shortest possible form is not always the one that's best readable.
+1
The style used is up to the maintainer.
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On 27-09-2011 17:51:04 +, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
Next time, I'll just specify the epoch time.
Ohw, eh, by the way, thanks for doing the maintenance!
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All,
In less than two weeks, the council will meet again. This is the time
to raise and prepare items that the council should put on the agenda to
vote on.
Please respond to this email with agenda items.
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? Possibly a question for the Council to adjudicate?
Please refer to Mike's thread on this.
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_7210bc8a18140db8f18ff89245efacd5.xml
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In fact, like Samuli said, the waiting period is 14+days for ATs to
test is an become stable which will be more than 30. No reason to
s/14/30/
No reason then to confuse people by suggesting the opposite either.
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that Gentoo has that
you just don't like can be ignored because, well, you just don't like
it.
We can discuss whether or not the policy is ok, but should we ignore the
policy for that reason? I think not.
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mean that each policy in its current form is
de-facto the best thing or something like that.
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for example),
and I do allow you to make a lot of changes to my packages. Just don't
force your style and preferences on me.
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On 11-10-2011 21:01:40 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 10/11/2011 08:05 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
On 11-10-2011 19:59:13 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
So I've missed one ${EPREFIX} for docdir= ? How about just fixing that,
and not crapping all over the package?
How about first asking
/ebuild-writing/functions/src_prepare/epatch/index.html
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rarely makes sense to call epatch multiple times, and
certainly doesn't improve maintainability.
Conclusion doesn't follow from argumentation.
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On 11-10-2011 23:00:19 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
The devmanual doesn't suggest this is the way to go, does it?
No, but it should.
different topic
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suggested one (since the last meeting).
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On 26-10-2011 18:35:51 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:30:25 +0200
Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote:
In less than two weeks, the council will meet again. This is the time
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