Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo's problems

2007-03-16 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 16 March 2007 18:58, Luca Barbato wrote: > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > That's not entirely true. The main trouble with refactoring portage code > > is that there is no defined public API and so even the littlest changes > > are likely to break things in gentoolkit

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev vs lkml?

2007-03-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
Rearranging and snipping a bit to clarify my points. On Friday 16 March 2007 09:17, Daniel Drake wrote: > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > 2) Each technical area usually has a clear authority - ie. a spokesman > > whom is listened to and usually has one's posts challenged with clear

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo's problems

2007-03-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
no > way of evaluating the impact. That's not entirely true. The main trouble with refactoring portage code is that there is no defined public API and so even the littlest changes are likely to break things in gentoolkit and several of the portage gui front end packages. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev vs lkml?

2007-03-14 Thread Jason Stubbs
re solving the right problem? (That's not a rhetorical > question; I really don't know the answer.) Good question. I wouldn't have a clue as to the best resolution either. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-03 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 04 March 2007 02:05, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 01:51:39 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > There were two separate specifications - glep42 and multiple > > repositories - that should have been discussed seperately. On a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-03 Thread Jason Stubbs
This is really irrelevant. It's not matter of "if" he gets access but only as to "when". After the initial work is done and the team is ready to go public all his "noise" will come out. I can only think of two choices here: 1) whether you and he both continue to be visceral or instead try to build a good working relationship; and 2) whether you discuess any issues with the spec now or when it goes public. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reliance upon || ( use? ( ) ) behaviour

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 24 February 2007 13:17, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 13:09:40 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | Okay, I must be missing something here. If package foo can work with > | either bar or baz equily as well but not both, why should it force an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reliance upon || ( use? ( ) ) behaviour

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 24 February 2007 12:34, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:27:35 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | For the 14 cases you mentioned that were making a mistake, they > | probably can be rewritten so as to force an install of the first

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reliance upon || ( use? ( ) ) behaviour

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 24 February 2007 03:57, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:56:19 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | Disallowing it would be the cleaner in terms of package manager > | responsibilities, but ... > > Well, I looked through the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reliance upon || ( use? ( ) ) behaviour

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
e an error because there was no successful result among the possibilities? While my gut feeling says "yes" and (I think) portage currently says "no", I can't really see any strong reason for either case. Disallowing use clauses directly beneath || constructs would completely sidestep that issue too. ;) But I still what TGL described even if only for EAPI-1 or beyond... -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dependencies on system packages

2006-12-16 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 17 December 2006 16:04, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:10:57 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | I've tried to be objective here so if my viewpoint isn't obvious I'll > | state it outright. I think all packages should depe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dependencies on system packages

2006-12-16 Thread Jason Stubbs
every package that they need to build and/or run. Whether this is done explicitly or with meta-packages, I don't really care. The only reason for not being explicit with deps is to cater for old sloppy versions of portage. Unless there are other reasons not stated here? -- Jason Stubbs app-admin/

Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-18 Thread Jason Stubbs
eck_license and ebuilds for packages that must have their license explicitly accepted. In other words there should be no "*" and the default ACCEPT_LICENSE should default to everything except ebuilds that are currently using check_license. The NON-INTERACTIVE group specified in the original GLEP specified that set. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Ignoring/overwriting IUSE from an eclass

2006-11-07 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 06 November 2006 17:55, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 02:18:41 +0000 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | Yes, I'm also sick of this negative level of civility. If I don't > | preempt it now, I'll likely be told that I'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Ignoring/overwriting IUSE from an eclass

2006-11-06 Thread Jason Stubbs
100+ comment bug about this, though, which ended up with his dismissal so discussing it further won't help any. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users

2006-10-10 Thread Jason Stubbs
t;if you want a job done right, you've got to do it yourself." -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users

2006-10-10 Thread Jason Stubbs
l licenses, it boils down to "This software is provided AS IS - except that you can't make copies, resell, use on more than one computer or by more than one person, etc." > In any event, when was the decision made to kill the Universal LiveCD for > x86 and replace it with the installer? I'd like to read the discussion. I have a feeling the discussion took place about 18 months ago on -core, but I'm not sure as to the answer to this. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Profile masking and profiles package.mask

2006-10-01 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 02 October 2006 16:03, Jason Stubbs wrote: > 1) Specifying >=sys-libs/glibc-2.4 and thus a corresponding entry in package.mask ... is redundant -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Profile masking and profiles package.mask

2006-10-01 Thread Jason Stubbs
was a long time ago though, so masking should really be dropped from packages altogether at this late stage. However, masking in packages only is still supported. If there is a reason that the plans for killing off that support should be suspended, that's also viable. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open

2006-03-20 Thread Jason Stubbs
The resolver as it stands now is not overly difficult. One does really need to know it back to front though. I should really make splitting it out and documenting it my big project for 2.2. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND in IUSE ( again )

2006-03-10 Thread Jason Stubbs
there > were no QA warnings when there should have been...etc.. I also committed support for a USE_EXPAND_HIDDEN. Individual flags don't need to be added to it. USE_EXPAND_HIDDEN="USERLAND ARCH ..." is enough. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-04 Thread Jason Stubbs
sounds the most reasonable. I can't see portage ever supporting "the 'foo' and 'bar' flags can be used together except when 'baz' is also used" type flag interdepency complexity. As Mike pointed out, check_license also needs to be accounted for as well as possible others. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] "emerge -NDuvp world" takes forever after "emerge sync"

2006-02-25 Thread Jason Stubbs
t; takes between > five and ten minutes > >emerge -NDuvp world 321.05s user 77.90s system 94% cpu 7:02.77 total > > I am using sys-apps/portage-2.1_pre4-r1. Open a bug for this please. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Passing the buck

2006-02-09 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 09 February 2006 20:23, Jason Stubbs wrote: ... Wrong list :/ -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Passing the buck

2006-02-09 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 09 February 2006 15:00, Brian Harring wrote: > On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 03:04:08PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Time again for one of those mails; this time from me. Due to time > > constraints, > > real life and coming close to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Binary packages

2006-02-08 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 09 February 2006 09:30, Mark Loeser wrote: > Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > It was my understanding that it is needed for the 3.3 -> 3.4 upgrade. > > Various packages that will build fine against either are broken until > > being recompiled

Re: [gentoo-dev] Binary packages

2006-02-08 Thread Jason Stubbs
this with dependencies. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-31 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 31 January 2006 22:39, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 31 January 2006 06:31, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Monday 30 January 2006 20:54, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > 1. Because for things like LINGUAS, there are arbitrarily many legal > > > values, and docum

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-31 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 01 February 2006 02:28, Mark Loeser wrote: > Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Is there any need for the packages to go into stable without the X deps > > being > > fixed? Why not just open a bug for the package maintainer and mark it >

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-31 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 30 January 2006 20:54, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:46:28 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | On Monday 30 January 2006 16:43, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | > On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:17:36 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pett

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-31 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 31 January 2006 13:49, Joshua Jackson wrote: > Mark Loeser gentoo.org> writes: > > Donnie Berkholz gentoo.org> said: > > > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > > The patch now has the debugging output and x11-base/xorg-x11 check > > > > removed.

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-30 Thread Jason Stubbs
ds? More precisely, how should they be documented if not via use.desc? -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-30 Thread Jason Stubbs
ge difference but not exactly minor either. And of course LINGUAS="" wouldn't be shown at all if nothing had changed with regard to it and --verbose wasn't specified. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-26 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 26 January 2006 22:09, Jason Stubbs wrote: > There is no way that I can see around this without highly increasing the > possibility of false positives. I extracted a list of cps from repoman, modified your script to check all cpvs (rather than only the best) and compared tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-26 Thread Jason Stubbs
hat I can see around this without highly increasing the possibility of false positives. Are you planning to treat arch flags separately? -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-25 Thread Jason Stubbs
That's a standard repoman thing. Details are only printed if there are less than 12 occurrences of a specific warning unless "repoman full" is run. Not sure why it wasn't being displayed if there was only one occurrence. The patch now has the debugging output and x11-base/xorg-x11 check removed. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-25 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 21:47, Brian Harring wrote: > On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 09:18:28PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > There's no other way to do it given repoman's state and the requirements. > > I was talking long term. One time kludges suck (but occur), would l

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-25 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 20:46, Brian Harring wrote: > On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 08:27:22PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Wednesday 25 January 2006 18:10, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > > DEPEND="x11-base/xorg-x11"

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-25 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 18:10, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > DEPEND="x11-base/xorg-x11" # wrong > > DEPEND="virtual/x11"# wrong > > DEPEND="|| ( x11? ( virtual/x11 ) )"# wrong

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-25 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 17:43, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "broken" in the first paragraph nor > > how a check can help with unmaintained (=no commits, no?) packages, but if > > a repoman che

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-25 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 16:40, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:08:07 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > | The premise for not doing this is that packages will never be fixed, > > | right? Why not m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 16:19, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > Only by modifying every ebuild that has a virtual/x11 dependency. The atom > > "virtual/x11" cannot be limited to specific versions on its own with old > > style virtuals. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Jason Stubbs
ng pulled in. The premise for not doing this is that packages will never be fixed, right? Why not make the modular X provide virtual/x11 and just institute a policy that no new packages can go into stable with a virtual/x11 dependency? It could even be easily enforcable if necessary. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] [POLL] portage-2.1 USE flag ordering

2006-01-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
) There's also a more general poll at http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-423275.html which also allows further discussion if anybody is wanting to offer detailed opinions. Thanks in advance. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] SuperH (sh) KEYWORD spam

2005-12-31 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 31 December 2005 18:57, Mike Frysinger wrote: > i'm injecting sh KEYWORDS as quickly as my lantank can emerge ... So that's one package every two weeks then? ;) -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-30 Thread Jason Stubbs
ounds messy given the current redesign of atom handling, but it would seem to offer a better chance of not being bug-ridden... -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-30 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 30 December 2005 21:17, Spider (DmD Lj) wrote: > On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 10:35 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Friday 30 December 2005 01:35, Spider (DmD Lj) wrote: > > > On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 19:06 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > > On Tue, 27 Dec 2005

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-29 Thread Jason Stubbs
SLOT... I suggested this last Tuesday.. > I can smell sooo much breakage from this solution. Even though it could > work : ) I'm not sure to interpret this as "yet another snide remark" or not so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're referring to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-27 Thread Jason Stubbs
ge. If backtracking was all there was to it, it could be done very quickly of course. However, it's essentially a brute force method; I'm not very good with O notation but I think it's O(n^n). I've got an algorithm in my head that'll do it but it goes into an infinite

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-27 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 27 December 2005 22:45, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Tuesday 27 December 2005 14:00, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > If all three of those packages were first built against kdelibs:3.4 and > > then kdelibs:3.5 became available then rebuilding any one of them without > > rebui

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-27 Thread Jason Stubbs
verload the meaning of SLOT. If overloading, dependencies would be flattened (meaning "|| ( kdelibs:3.5 kdelibs:3.4 )" would have became "kdelibs:3.4" for the original install) within the installed package database but there's also there's the implication that only one slot of a package be allowed in a connected set of nodes. Is that what you're getting at? -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] making dodoc and dohtml die when they fail and stricter is on

2005-12-26 Thread Jason Stubbs
uilds, etc. > etc. Sigh... None of these issues have made there way to dev-portage. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] making dodoc and dohtml die when they fail and stricter is on

2005-12-25 Thread Jason Stubbs
d by it (for us it's just an api change). As a side note, dodoc didn't return non-zero when specified files don't exist up until a month or two ago. dohtml was updated yesterday. Hence, up until now the above was not possible. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: how to contribute to use/slot deps: was Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-24 Thread Jason Stubbs
s done to prioritized according to what I see as the needs of users. Needs of "those of us who provide the tree" are prioritized by how much benefit will be translated to end users combined with how much work will be required. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-24 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 24 December 2005 12:58, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:50:33 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | SLOT is currently an arbitrary string (without spaces) so general > | matching of "*" might be useful. Of course, there&#x

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
so general matching of "*" might be useful. Of course, there's no restriction of not using "*" in SLOTs at the moment either... -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 24 December 2005 05:45, Spider (DmD Lj) wrote: > On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 03:37 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Saturday 24 December 2005 03:23, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > > On Friday 23 December 2005 19:12, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_{pre,post}inst misusage

2005-12-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 24 December 2005 03:42, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 02:22:06 +0900 > > Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > PackageA is installed, PackageB is installed, PackageB is > > uninstalled -> PackageA is broken. Does this c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: pkg_{pre,post}inst misusage

2005-12-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 24 December 2005 03:43, Duncan wrote: > Jason Stubbs posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted > > below, on Sat, 24 Dec 2005 02:22:06 +0900: > > A quick patch makes symlinks handled similarly to regular files and > > solves the issue. I'll put it into te

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
se them. > > > > Not in anything end users should be using. The syntax is pretty much > > decided upon though... > > Glad that they are comming though. Even though I'd probably not hold my > breath. Trolling? -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
ctions work. *shrug* I guess it's down to whether you consider a > > Do those already work then? I'd like to be able to use them. :slot and [use]? Not yet. I'm sure that once they do the shouts will be resounding across the globe such that it would not be possible for you to be unaware of it... ;) -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_{pre,post}inst misusage

2005-12-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 24 December 2005 02:52, Harald van Dijk wrote: > On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 02:22:06AM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > Symlinks are handled within portage differently to regular files. Regular > > files get an mtime check and are removed if it matches. Symlinks don't &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_{pre,post}inst misusage

2005-12-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
dosym /usr/bin /test > > } > > > > When unmerging, portage won't remove /test/bin because its target still > > exists. > > That is fixed in portage-2.0.53 (latest stable). > > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59593 Similar characteristics but slightly different. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_{pre,post}inst misusage

2005-12-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 23 December 2005 22:13, Harald van Dijk wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 10:00:20PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Friday 23 December 2005 21:39, Harald van Dijk wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 08:31:06PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > > On Friday

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_{pre,post}inst misusage

2005-12-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 23 December 2005 21:39, Harald van Dijk wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 08:31:06PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Friday 23 December 2005 20:19, Stefan Schweizer wrote: > > > Well, you should know that those are because of portage bugs or some > > > po

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_{pre,post}inst misusage

2005-12-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 23 December 2005 21:39, Harald van Dijk wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 08:31:06PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Friday 23 December 2005 20:19, Stefan Schweizer wrote: > > > Well, you should know that those are because of portage bugs or some > > > po

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_{pre,post}inst misusage

2005-12-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
Log that I can see nor in the ebuilds themselves... -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] pkg_{pre,post}inst misusage

2005-12-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
-fR /usr/share/doc/${PF} net-print/cups/cups-1.1.23-r4.ebuild: [ -n "${PN}" ] && rm -fR /usr/share/doc/${PN}-* net-print/cups/cups-1.1.23-r5.ebuild: [ -n "${PN}" ] && rm -fR /usr/share/doc/${PN}-* I'll let others do the yelling. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-16 Thread Jason Stubbs
ver... I don't see the need for this. Resolution will the same repository to satisfy a package's dependencies where possible. If you just want to be able to state that a package from one repository needs packages from a different repository, wouldn't something like REPO_URI="mirror://gentoo/repo" suffice just as well without making a mess of the atom syntax? -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP XX: Fix the GLEP process

2005-12-14 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 14 December 2005 06:16, Grant Goodyear wrote: > Jason Stubbs wrote: [Mon Dec 12 2005, 08:06:54PM CST] > > > The purpose of GLEPs is to coordinate several teams into providing an > > overall enhancement to Gentoo. However, the GLEP itself is written by > > a sin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-14 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 14 December 2005 09:52, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:11:51 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | newsdir="$(portageq envvar PORTDIR)/metadata/news" > | newsdir="$(portageq newsdir gentoo)" > | > | Both h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-13 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 14 December 2005 08:54, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:44:39 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | Modifications are required to portage anyway. Why postpone it until > | after several readers are written and force all

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-13 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 14 December 2005 07:12, Grant Goodyear wrote: > Jason Stubbs wrote: [Mon Dec 12 2005, 07:51:51PM CST] > > > | As I said already, there will immediately be a bug asking for overlay > > > | support. Portage already supports multiple in a form whether anybody > &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP XX: Fix the GLEP process

2005-12-13 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 11:58, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:39:49 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | > So... If, hypothetically speaking, someone were to write a GLEP > | > saying "move developer documentation into the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-13 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 11:48, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:39:14 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | And how can that be adapted to work with overlays, completely > | ignoring the possibility of distinct repositories. Overlays is >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-13 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 11:45, Andrew Muraco wrote: > Jason Stubbs wrote: > >On Tuesday 13 December 2005 11:22, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >>On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:17:30 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >>wrote: > >>| So what

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP XX: Fix the GLEP process

2005-12-12 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 11:24, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:15:43 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | A GLEP should list whom has been solicited and provide evidence that > | each has given their explicit approval of the GLEP. A GLEP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-12 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 11:22, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:17:30 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | So what are you going to do? I asked already but you didn't answer. > | How are you going to find $PORTDIR/metadata/news? > &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-12 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 11:11, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:51:51 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | Without a list of future features, you think the best way to go must > | be the least agile? As Zac said, all that matters to keep f

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP XX: Fix the GLEP process

2005-12-12 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 11:06, Jason Stubbs wrote: > Abstract > > The purpose of GLEPs is to coordinate several teams into providing an > overall enhancement to Gentoo. However, the GLEP itself is written by a > single person rather than a cooperative effort between the teams. &

[gentoo-dev] GLEP XX: Fix the GLEP process

2005-12-12 Thread Jason Stubbs
Abstract The purpose of GLEPs is to coordinate several teams into providing an overall enhancement to Gentoo. However, the GLEP itself is written by a single person rather than a cooperative effort between the teams. Motivation Recent GLEPs have attempted to force things on other teams. This

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-12 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 02:16, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:49:31 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | No need for a glep as far as portage support goes anymore than Ciaran > | needs a glep to change or add syntax highlighting in vim.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-12 Thread Jason Stubbs
. What should be of concern is establishing a robust API between the readers and portage such that future changes won't cause breakage. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-12 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 12 December 2005 09:20, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:11:53 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | Regardless of what you think about the current plans for multiple > | repository support, the details that readers will need to

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-11 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 12 December 2005 09:01, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:44:00 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | Repositories will be user-labelled. However, all that readers need be > | concerned with is how to extract the repository name from the

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-11 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 12 December 2005 02:43, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:32:05 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | Repositories will definitely have a unique identifier. Perhaps it > | would be better to use the repository-identifing format from the

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-10 Thread Jason Stubbs
'suggested' > display tool; other display tools (for example, a news to email forwarder, > which would be ideal for users who sync on a ``cron``) are left as options > for those who desire them. By "suggested" you mean that it should be referenced in the news help? -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] The deal with epkgmove

2005-12-10 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 11 December 2005 00:56, Luca Barbato wrote: > svn so far was good but I don't know which big projects had it deployed. KDE uses subversion, depending on what you call big of course. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X porting: dependency changes

2005-12-07 Thread Jason Stubbs
es what the macos profiles have in package.provided... > I plan to remove the virtual/x11 definition from base/virtuals in a > couple of days, because this should provide a full (and non-broken) > replacement. This can be easily tested in advance by adding the following: # cat /etc/po

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] .53, .54 and beyond...

2005-12-06 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 06 December 2005 21:37, Alec Warner wrote: > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 December 2005 11:17, Ned Ludd wrote: > > > On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 23:06 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > > Okay, new suggestion. > > > > > > > > Postpo

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge -e question Was: GCC-3.4 will be marked stable in ~1 hour on x86

2005-12-03 Thread Jason Stubbs
> bring up2date an old installation snapshot.) Perhaps you were using one of the broken versions? -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 28 November 2005 00:05, Jason Stubbs wrote: > 3) FEATURES="noman" is dropped in favour of USE="man" or USE="manpages" > > In light of the above requirements and the fact that dyn_* will likely be > moved into the tree down the track, #3 seems

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 27 November 2005 23:50, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Sunday 27 November 2005 15:39, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > Core packages or not, they are all broken. When the requirement came up, > > the respective maintainers should have spoken up so that a proper &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 27 November 2005 23:43, Jakub Moc wrote: > 27.11.2005, 15:39:48, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Sunday 27 November 2005 22:09, Ned Ludd wrote: > >> On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 07:58 -0500, Ned Ludd wrote: > >> > On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 12:46 +0200, Marius Mauch wrot

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 27 November 2005 23:50, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Sunday 27 November 2005 15:39, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > Core packages or not, they are all broken. When the requirement came up, > > the respective maintainers should have spoken up so that a proper &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-27 Thread Jason Stubbs
spective maintainers should have spoken up so that a proper solution could be found. When are the quick hacks going to stop? :| -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of auto-use in portage-2.0.54

2005-11-27 Thread Jason Stubbs
rtageq has_version ${ROOT} sys-fs/udev && use !udev && ( ewarn "You have udev installed but do not the udev USE flag enabled." ewarn "${PN} might behave incorrectly." ) Except with better bash style of course.. But that's just what I'd do. Once

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-25 Thread Jason Stubbs
#x27;ll ask the council to add the decision to the > agenda for its next meeting (sorry, just don't want to be the bad guy > here ;) /me adds a vote for later to even it up. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-25 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 25 November 2005 08:58, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Of course, if FEATURES were in the USE expand list, you could use > ! features_noman ? ( ) ... All the way up until FEATURES="noman" is changed to FEATURES="man"... -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-24 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 24 November 2005 10:07, Marius Mauch wrote: > On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:49:20 +0900 > > Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 24 November 2005 09:32, Marius Mauch wrote: > > > On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 01:04:32 +0100 > > > >

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