Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: joining the Software Freedom Conservancy

2007-07-22 Thread Josh Saddler
Ryan Hill wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: >> While I think this would be an excellent move, there are a few topics >> that concern me a bit: >> 1) just to be sure, did someone check the transfer agreement between the >> Foundation and the old Gentoo, Inc for potential problems? >> 2) what would this m

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Josh Saddler
Roy Marples wrote: > On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 17:25 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: >> Archiving the handbook isn't possible. > > Why? Unless I'm missing something, it should be fairly trivial. It ain't. It's an old issue. Current networked (requires a net connection

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Josh Saddler
Roy Marples wrote: > On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 11:48 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: >> (GDP): you give us the info, we'll document it for you. Or I will at least. > > Well, the changes are as outlined in my first email. > The user changes are mainly a few variables in the /et

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Josh Saddler
Roy Marples wrote: > On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 12:15 -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: >> Roy Marples wrote: >>> This is just a heads up for getting baselayout-2 stable. Next week I >>> plan to put baselayout-2.0.0_rc1 into the tree without any keywords and >>> it will be removed from package.mask (keeping th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Zombie: Sven Vermeulen (swift)

2007-07-18 Thread Josh Saddler
Petteri Räty wrote: > Your doc zombie Sven Vermeulen has risen from his grave and is back to > beat www.gentoo.org/doc/en with his fingers. Give him the usual welcome > with nice head shots. Hi SwifTy. See you 'round our channel! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-14 Thread Josh Saddler
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > -core Internal Private List, Public R/O after period of time > -core Internal Private List, Public R/O after period of time No. -core should not ever be public. It's not for development anyway. -core contains things like personal issues the developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-13 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 08:13:53PM -0400, Seemant Kulleen wrote: >> My thought is this: everyone should try and evaluate their own behaviour >> on this list, and the method in which they treat others. If each of us >> actually thought about the effects of our attitudes, t

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-12 Thread Josh Saddler
Jim Ramsay wrote: > Mike Doty wrote: >> devs who moderate in bad posts will be subject to moderation >> themselves. > > Will this be monitored/enforced by the proctors? > See the council meeting logs when they're posted. Having just watched the meeting "live," I saw that the proctors project was

Re: [gentoo-dev] Call for more photos on planet.g.o

2007-07-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Rémi Cardona wrote: > People with funky pictures > - dirtyepic > - nightmorph > - beandog Maybe that *is* my real face! Or maybe it's my pet penguin. Whatcha think about that?!? > Please send in a nice picture of yourselves, I'll cut it out nicely and > forward it to infra. Well, if you're will

Re: [gentoo-dev] Non-new developer: Tobias Heinlein (keytoaster)

2007-07-06 Thread Josh Saddler
Denis Dupeyron wrote: > He will > initially work for that other desktop environment, also known as KDE. > So please, everybody, give a warm non-welcome to Tobias. KDE? Boo! How's that for a non-greeting? ;) Just kidding. Congrats on completing your extra quizzes, Tobias! signature.as

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Linux-PAM stabling plans

2007-07-04 Thread Josh Saddler
Ned Ludd wrote: > Forwarded by request of somebody thats smart/lucky enough to not > be on this list but still monitoring it. > > Forwarded Message > From: Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: New Linux-PAM stabling plans > Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 20:51:36 +020

Re: [gentoo-dev] how to handle sensitive files when generating binary packages

2007-06-20 Thread Josh Saddler
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 20 June 2007, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Wednesday 20 June 2007, Josh Saddler wrote: >>> Do potential licensing/copyright issues like these factor into your >>> proposal in any way? >> no, that's an exercise for the user

Re: [gentoo-dev] how to handle sensitive files when generating binary packages

2007-06-20 Thread Josh Saddler
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:19:46 -0500 > Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm not sure that's really a feasible solution (but then you probably >> weren't suggesting it with that intention). Being able to create a >> "backup" of any installed package without re-emer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Pony Colour Schemes [was: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree]

2007-06-18 Thread Josh Saddler
Ryan Hill wrote: > Andrew Gaffney wrote: >> Chris Gianelloni wrote: >>> If the Gentoo developers as a whole decided to dedicate this list to >>> pink ponies, we can. >> Are pretty purple ponies acceptable as well? > > As *everybody* knows, purple ponies aren't pretty. > > > > > Well, maybe a l

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-17 Thread Josh Saddler
_JusSx_ wrote: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 05:36:22PM +0100, Gustavo Felisberto wrote: >> A little background info: Right now there are three versions of >> net-im/skype in the tree: >> >> 1 - the 1.2 series (with a stable version) >> 2- the 1.3 series also with a stable version >> 3- the 1.4 series

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-12 Thread Josh Saddler
Peter Gordon wrote: > On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 01:19 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> Supporting this would be a huge policy violation, and not so merely as >> a technicality. I suggest simply removing ion support from the main >> tree, and sticking it in an overlay that comes with a big warning >> te

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Optional Package Dependencies for netscape-flash -> libflashsupport

2007-05-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Ryan Hill wrote: > net-www/netscape-flash-9.0.31.0 USE="libflashsupport -debug" > media-lib/libflashsupport-1.2 USE="esd gnutls oss pulseaudio ssl" > > is the right way to do it. Absolutely! I was about to post the same thing -- put some kind of use on netscape-flash to pull in libflashsupport

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optional Package Dependencies for netscape-flash -> libflashsupport

2007-05-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Jim Ramsay wrote: > Olivier Crête wrote: >> On Thu, 2007-10-05 at 14:20 -0400, Patrick McLean wrote: >>> Jim Ramsay wrote: 1) Create a single local USE flag (flashsupport or something) that will just pull in this dependency. 2) Use the same set of USE flags as libflashsupport ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] tests

2007-05-01 Thread Josh Saddler
Stephen Bennett wrote: > On Tue, 01 May 2007 14:52:30 -0700 > Josh Saddler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> anyway, on the subject of tests...as others have covered the *first* >> time this was discussed on the lists, mandatory tests being run every >> time the use

Re: [gentoo-dev] tests

2007-05-01 Thread Josh Saddler
Maurice van der Pot wrote: >>> fex: >> Please don't abuse the English language in that manner. > > Since you took the time to highlight this apparently grave injustice to > the English language, would you please explain it to me so I can do > better next time? he just doesn't like it because it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: theology

2007-04-28 Thread Josh Saddler
Nathan Smith wrote: > On 4/28/07, Rémi Cardona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Josh Sled wrote: >> >> > If that's the case, might not "humanities" be a better name? >> >> s/theology/humanities/ sounds good. +1 from me. >> >> Rémi >> -- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list >> >> > > Indeed. Even if we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: new herd: theology

2007-04-27 Thread Josh Saddler
Steve Dibb wrote: > Dominique Michel wrote: > >> I fully agree, theology is the worst possible name if the herd will >> include >> both religious and scientific softwares. > > No worries, app-misc/gramps was dropped from the theology herd, and is > herdless once again. It's interesting that peop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing retired developers from project pages

2007-04-17 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 04:10:14PM +0300, Petteri R??ty wrote: >> I made a patch to remove all retired developers from the project pages. >> If anyone doesn't object I will commit this next week. > Removing the tags is fine, but please don't remove the > tags. They show

Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

2007-04-08 Thread Josh Saddler
Michael Cummings wrote: > So, fellow devs, what's new with development? 2007.0 handbooks. I am t3h master of the handbooks. They're basically done, unless I actually hear from arch teams that changes are needed. I've been working my keister off; I think I racked up >100 commits for these things. P

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2007-04-05 Thread Josh Saddler
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 16:00 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> Honestly, the only reason there is any suggestion of a conspiracy is >> because of the threats being made by certain people to keep a certain >> log a secret... > > The log contains information that was given to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-30 Thread Josh Saddler
Anant Narayanan wrote: > Hi Mike, > > On 31-Mar-07, at 2:21 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> not really, why dont you apply some of your logic: >> - you are not wanted as an official Gentoo developer ... the past >> clearly >> shows this >> - the official package manager of Gentoo would need to be >

Re: [gentoo-dev] {Guide,Project, Foo}XML too confusing for many devs?

2007-03-28 Thread Josh Saddler
Denis Dupeyron wrote: > I find that as long as you read and follow the Gentoo XML Guide, > writing docs is easy and using XML is handy. What I like the most is, > as it was already noted, that I don't have to take care of the layout. > > However I have never found anything about writing project pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] New ALSA maintainers

2007-03-28 Thread Josh Saddler
Jakub Moc wrote: > Uhm... Sorry to see this issue brought up yet again. Just a couple of > brief notes: > > - The in-kernel drivers seriously are not an equivalent alternative, let > alone the preferred one, for stuff like hda-intel or any similar drivers > that are under permanent heavy developme

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-23 Thread Josh Saddler
Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: > Hello, > > I have already submitted my application, but want to advertise it over here > too :] Comments are welcome! > > Summary: > Create Python bindings, associated documentation and test cases for the > Paludis public API, and allow subclassing of Paludis classes

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Josh Saddler
Pierre-Yves Rofes wrote: > Well, I'd tend to say that it's not noticeable even under $(HOME) because > one issues a "ls [-l]" more often than a "ls -a[l]". > Besides, moving all into ~/.config is just moving the problem somewhere > else, not really solving it. Agreed. It's just moving the problem

Re: [gentoo-dev] TeX maintainer needed

2007-03-12 Thread Josh Saddler
Christian Faulhammer wrote: > [TeX stuff] Along with this, if anyone wants to take a look at bug 118405[1], the GDP could really use the help, especially since it was nattfodd who first requested a TeX document in the first place. It's been sitting there for a long time now, so unless someone writ

Re: [gentoo-dev] NTP and DST problem

2007-03-08 Thread Josh Saddler
Caleb Cushing wrote: if I'm using a pre-fix timezone file and using ntp will it correct my machine to the correct time? The forums are the appropriate place for these kinds of questions, not the development mailing list. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-05 Thread Josh Saddler
Grant Goodyear wrote: > The > original devmanual was written using Restructured Text (like our GLEPs), > along with various scripts that ciaranm wrote to assemble all of the > bits and pieces properly into a coherent online guide. Plasmaroo and > halcy0n converted the restructured text to guidexml

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-03 Thread Josh Saddler
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > If it's later on, there won't be lots > of holes that we know are there that he can use as some kind of twisted > proof that PMS sucks. zOMG Cabal conspiracy!!1oneone! So, who'se conspiring against you now? Devrel? The Council? Oh...*Brian* this time. Or just anyone whom

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-03 Thread Josh Saddler
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > (Pkgcore is in parts based upon Portage code -- whether or not this is > a good thing is irrelevant to this discussion) Nice way of adding in that little "cover my ass so's I can snipe at a competing project" parenthetical statement. That statement is in itself irrelevant

Re: [gentoo-dev] more up to date minimal install cd

2007-03-03 Thread Josh Saddler
Denis Dupeyron wrote: > On 3/3/07, Daniel Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Right now, installing Gentoo is a chore, and the many wonderful >> choices of Gentoo end up making the install rather complicated. So I >> definitely support ideas to help make our installation process >> better/streaml

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing Daniel Robbins (drobbins)

2007-02-27 Thread Josh Saddler
Petteri Räty wrote: > It's my please to introduce to you Daniel "drobbins" Robbins. Daniel is > going to work with the amd64 arch team but will probably venture to > other areas too. Daniel doesn't have much experience with Gentoo so > let's give him a helping hand in the start. > > In his dark pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement plans for =net-nds/openldap-2.{1,2}*

2007-02-24 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > This is an announcement that =net-nds/openldap-2.1* is going into p.mask > now, and will be removed in 30 days. It contains security > vulnerabilities that have been fixed in new major versions from > upstream, and upstream no longer provides support for it. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Slacker archs

2007-02-19 Thread Josh Saddler
Brian Harring wrote: > [many statistics] > Aside from that, aparently props should be given to sparc; seem to be > on top of things. > > Either way, data to chew on. > > ~harring Much thanks for the stats, Brian, it does help to have extra perspective. And yes, eroyf is doing a heckuva lot to g

Re: [gentoo-dev] punt raidtools and move people to mdadm

2007-02-12 Thread Josh Saddler
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > Migration is from my experience painless. Even if detecting does not > work, the mdadm.conf syntax is easier IMHO. > > However a nice little guide or doc on it, should cover and address most > all user issues stemming from migration. If such a document does not > al

Re: [gentoo-dev] New network config for baselayout-ng

2007-02-08 Thread Josh Saddler
Roy Marples wrote: > On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:26:40 +0100 > Francesco Riosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> lol, >> anyway stop this thread, Roy stated that the installed cfg files will >> be managed via use flags that would satisfy everyone. > > I say maybe a USE flag or something else. May not need

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Maintainer Timeout

2007-02-02 Thread Josh Saddler
Alec Warner wrote: > Don't be an asshole > Don't screw up* > * Corollary: if you do screw up, take responsibility and fix it/find > someone to help you. DON'T MAKE IT WORSE. Indeed, agreed. An excellent response. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Ideas for projects...

2007-01-22 Thread Josh Saddler
Rémi Cardona wrote: > Josh Saddler a écrit : >> Ryan Hill wrote: >>> Chris Gianelloni wrote: >>> >>>> Submit your ideas here, so we can discuss them. I will be choosing one >>>> idea that we think we can accomplish to test out the idea of >&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Ideas for projects...

2007-01-12 Thread Josh Saddler
Ryan Hill wrote: > Chris Gianelloni wrote: > >> Submit your ideas here, so we can discuss them. I will be choosing one >> idea that we think we can accomplish to test out the idea of >> Council-driven projects. > > How far was Curtis from finishing www-redesign? > The whole thing was pretty muc

Re: [gentoo-dev] deprecating /etc/make.profile

2007-01-10 Thread Josh Saddler
Simon Stelling wrote: > Hi all, > > As per bug 148388 [1] comment 1, I'd like to discuss the deprecation of > /etc/make.profile and the use of a PORTAGE_PROFILE variable instead. > Reason for this change aside from consistency with all other portage > settings is the annoyance of re-adjusting the

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Raúl Porcel (ar min76)

2007-01-07 Thread Josh Saddler
Petteri Räty wrote: > It's my pleasure to introduce to you Raúl "armin76" Porcel. He is > joining us to put maintainer-wanted stuff to the tree and remove stuff > via treecleaners. The teams he targets now are net-p2p, mozilla and > treecleaners. > > He hails from Barcelona, Spain. His hobbies and

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: making USE_EXPANDed variables incremental

2007-01-02 Thread Josh Saddler
Marius Mauch wrote: The main problem I see is that if it's becoming a real incremental (across all config layers) it would change behavior for users as they'd need to prefix their use-expanded vars with -* to retain their current config. But I guess that's why you added that final clause about pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] openmosix maintainer needed

2007-01-01 Thread Josh Saddler
Daniel Drake wrote: > Hi, > > openmosix has been hardmasked for a long time: > > # Tim Yamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (07 Aug 2006) > # Security mask > # Bugs #135167, #137623, #137626, #138617, #139321, > # #139475, #139641, #140444, #141503, #142616, #142617 > sys-kernel/openmosix-sources > sys-clus

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-misc/ltsp

2006-12-23 Thread Josh Saddler
Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Hi all, > > net-misc/ltsp will be removed on 15 Jan 2007, it has been hard masked > today. There is no maintainer, we have an open security issue [1], so it > will be punted. If someone steps to take it over, you know what to do. > > [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Big change ideea

2006-12-06 Thread Josh Saddler
Alexandru Mincu wrote: > Hi all, > I don't know if this has come up before so excuse me if I am repeating. > I recently stumbled upon the following Linux distribution: > http://www.gobolinux.org/ > They have an idea that Mac OS X implemented it when it first came out to > be more user friendly. > T

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Versioning the tree

2006-11-29 Thread Josh Saddler
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > While I truly appreciate your ability to give your opinion, I don't > care. As I said, I am working on this concept as an experiment. It is > being done by Release Engineering. We aren't really *asking* anyone for > their opinion. We're simply stating what we plan on w

Re: [gentoo-dev] IMPORTANT: lists.g.o hardware issues

2006-11-23 Thread Josh Saddler
Lance Albertson wrote: > (I apologize if this is sent twice, it didn't through the first time it > seems) > > All- > > We've been having some hardware issues with the machine that runs > lists.g.o in the last week or so. Unfortunately, lcars (the person who > manages it) is going out of town this

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.13 going into ~ARCH soon

2006-11-06 Thread Josh Saddler
Patrick McLean wrote: > Matthew Snelham wrote: >> >>> If you want that level of flexability then simply symlink /lib/rcscripts >>> to /var/rcscripts or where-ever you like. >> But then baselayout is still 'behaving badly' by sttempting to store >> dynamic state information in /lib. Something it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-05 Thread Josh Saddler
Ryan Tandy wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:35:43 -0800 Peter Gordon >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> | On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 08:40 +, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> | > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even >> | > vote on, let us know ! Simply re

Re: [gentoo-dev] New doc developer: Naoaki Shindo

2006-11-04 Thread Josh Saddler
Christian Heim wrote: > Its my pleasure to introduce to you Naoaki Shindo (also known as shindo), our > latest addition helping with the Japanese translations. > > Naoaki hails from Sapporo, Japan (that's where they eat Sushi, *yummy*), > where > he lives with his wife. He's currently working f

Re: [gentoo-dev] New GDP developer: Dimitry Bradt

2006-11-04 Thread Josh Saddler
Petteri Räty wrote: > It's my pleasure to introduce to you Dimitry "diox" Brad. He is joining > us to translate our documentation into Dutch. Let's see if he is able to > bring us more Dutch users by improving our documentation. He is also > looking into taking the ebuild quiz later on and getting

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

2006-11-03 Thread Josh Saddler
Jon Portnoy wrote: > I've been mostly inactive for a good while but hanging on mostly for > sentimentality's sake, it's past time for that to stop. > > I mostly only maintain a small handful of ebuilds, I'm sure they can > find proper homes quickly. None are maintenance-intensive. > > And of co

Re: [gentoo-dev] firefox-2.0

2006-10-29 Thread Josh Saddler
Michal Kurgan wrote: > Hello! > > Recently new firefox-2.0 was released. > I (and probably many other users) am interested when this new version would > be unmasked and stabilized. If there are any problems, what are they and what > to expect if i would force installation now? Is there any roadmap

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for XMMS

2006-10-22 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > So, Luis gave up on this, and now it's time againf or removing xmms from the > tree. > > I've masked the xmms useflag and the following packages: > > dev-perl/Xmms-Perl > dev-python/pyxmms > gnome-extra/gxmms > med

Re: [gentoo-dev] Troubleshooters for Gentoo

2006-10-13 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joshua Nichols wrote: > Maurice van der Pot wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've noticed in the past that a lot of people come to irc with problems >> in some area (say networking) that are easy to solve just by first >> asking a number of questions to identify th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide

2006-10-05 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer wrote: > Most devs run ~arch Says who? Did you pull that fact out of a hat, or something? Do you have any hard numbers to back that statement? Let's have an informal poll some time: I know I don't run ~arch, and there are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide

2006-10-04 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Gianelloni wrote: >>> - Project status reports once a month for every project >> Totally agree on this one! > > OK. > > I'll give you Release Engineering's "status reports" for September, > October, and November: > > September: taking a well-d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide

2006-10-04 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Cort wrote: > [. . ] My, that's an awful lot of work on top of everything else we have to do. D'you plan on getting us all paid, as well? That'd be motivation to stay and be even more productive. Also, it's not necessary for every dev to also

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changes in Developer Relations and log of devrel meeting

2006-10-04 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 06:29:14 -0400 Michael Cummings > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 11:08 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | > You mean devrel still hold secret meetings behind people's backs, > | > and sa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Linking to Gentoo-wiki from www.gentoo.org

2006-10-03 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Ross wrote: > Daniel Ostrow wrote: > >> Gentoo-wiki does not now nor will it ever get linked to from official >> Gentoo media, documentation, or anything else within the www.gentoo.org >> namespace... > > Really? > > http://www.gentoo.org/new

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-10-03 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lionel Bouton wrote: > Here's an updated draft. I included most of your remarks and added some > notes on append-flags/filter-flags. I'll probably submit it to Ulrich > around the end of the week. > > --- Draft BEGIN --- > > CFLAGS > > > > Being a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Delay in approval of new developers

2006-09-22 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Seemant Kulleen wrote: > (well, it's run more like a commune, but anyway). I *knew* someone else was using my soap!!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFE+t8rsJQqN81j74RAuYUAJ4qa9GuyISG5PdVHq3Nuo58lBmmFgCgk4z/ v9O

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds

2006-09-20 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oh look, we just got Slashdotted by someone doing their level best to create a smear campaign, or at least to spread FUD: http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/06/09/20/2246231.shtml As I said on IRC, new project, new whiteboard. why don't we leave it up to

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds

2006-09-20 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:42:02 +0200 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Not that bugging people w/ pointless paperwork would contribute > | anything useful to this new project or get any work done... What > | exactly is the

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds

2006-09-20 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 20:00:59 +0100 Stuart Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | I've created a new project, called Gentoo Seeds [1]. The aim of the > | project is to create stage4 tarballs which can be used to 'seed' new >

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds

2006-09-20 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stuart Herbert wrote: > On 9/20/06, Danny van Dyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> As long as we have no package sets support in portage, I do indeed think >> that this is the best way to go. Didn't realize that you mentioned it, >> too. >> @Stuart: What

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds

2006-09-20 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Gaffney wrote: > That's not the issue. The issue is that there should *already* be a > releng liason, but nobody from releng seems to know anything about this > project. > I dunno . . . does releng really need to be involved, except if these s

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 52 - GLEP 23 revisited

2006-09-20 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Stelling wrote: > Hello all, > > I would like you to share your comments on the attached GLEP with me. > > Thanks in advance! While this has a novel approach to the problem (at least, I haven't seen anything else that tries to solve the LICENS

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Bugzilla access for contributors

2006-09-04 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan Schweizer wrote: > they are not defined by their status. I wonder why this word is causing > problems .. > > The status is maybe being an arch tester. This GLEP is not about status, > only about giving some people bugzilla access when needed. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Bugzilla access for contributors

2006-09-04 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Josh Saddler wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Stefan Schweizer wrote: >> [. . .] >> >> Define "contributors" -- is this a special

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Bugzilla access for contributors

2006-09-03 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan Schweizer wrote: [. . .] Define "contributors" -- is this a special status? If it is, how does one *become* a "contributor" to get these rights? This is potentially a big problem, the way I see it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: [gentoo-dev] council voting reminder

2006-08-28 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 28 August 2006 14:50, Tuan Van wrote: >> where do I get "I voted" sticker? > > http://www.cafepress.com/spankgentoo.13531918 > -mike I'm _so_ voting for the Rice Party next election. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Ver

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-26 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul de Vrieze wrote: > Who cares. It works (mostly), it is lightweight, and there are enough people > using it to keep it in the tree. As long as things don't break beyond repair > I see no reason whatsoever to remove xmms (or any other largely unma

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-23 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Luis Medinas wrote: > On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 20:07 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Wednesday 23 August 2006 16:30, Luis Medinas wrote: >>> So i'm asking for a solution either remove xmms, move the maintainer for >>> anyone who volunteer or the sound

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation

2006-07-27 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > To my former fellow Gentoo developers and users, > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 11:58:09PM +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: >> To my fellow Gentoo developers and users, >> >> In last weeks council meeting [1] it was decided th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo/Java staffing needs

2006-07-26 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joshua Nichols wrote: > * JBoss maintainer > > JBoss is a pretty important app in the enterprise world of Java. It has > been pretty unmaintained for some time now, and could use some love. > Because of the nature of this beast, I would want someone t

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Treecleaners - More Cowbell]

2006-07-17 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alec Warner wrote: [. . .] You win the Thread Title of the Month award! There's no such thing as too much cowbell. :p -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEvCkDrsJQqN81j74RAhIiAJ9qX2Eh5qM8/4BHACsm+7GpjnsJWwCfVQWx vt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Yet Another Victim

2006-07-16 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Cummings wrote: > I'm happy to announce a new addition to the perl team (no, not that kind > of addition - Dr. says that's in September folks;). You may know him > from such bugzilla favorites as "libeperl dies on `awk`" and > "libwww-perl has

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making procfs mount as nosuid,noexec by default

2006-07-16 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Drake wrote: > Hi, > > The local root exploit-of-the-week would have been unable to run if our > users systems had /proc mounted with nosuid and/or noexec > > It would be worthwhile considering making this a default. What are > people's though

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals: virtual/jre and virtual/jdk

2006-07-11 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joshua Nichols wrote: > Krzysiek Pawlik wrote: >> Two new new-style virtuals have been added today to the tree: >> >> - virtual/jdk >> - virtual/jre >> >> This allows migration to generation 2 of Java build system to advance. >> All virtual/{jdk,jre}

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage: missing pieces

2006-07-09 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 22:10:48 +0200 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | > Not true. According to the 2006.0 x86 profile, for example, you're > | > required to have ">=sys-devel/gcc-3.3.4-r1". There is no requirement > | > t

Re: [gentoo-dev] IMPORTANT: bugs performance issues

2006-07-06 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lance Albertson wrote: > All- > > Just thought I'd update you on some of issue's we've been having with > bugzilla.g.o lately. Yes, its been slow in the last few months, but > today has been even slower than normal. The primary reason being another >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Mobile Computing herd severely understaffed

2006-07-04 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > Hi all, > > The mobile herd, a group of laptop and mobile-computing related > ebuilds, desperately needs more maintainers. > > We are severely understaffed with only 8 maintainers (several which > are not active in the h

Re: [gentoo-dev] GWN Comments

2006-06-20 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Josh Saddler wrote: >> With all the talk about forums and comments, that got me thinking: Heck, why >> not >> just have it posted to the forums? That way it and the comments can be >> viewed by &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] 1/2 OT: Comprehensive Source Database

2006-06-20 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Tuesday 20 June 2006 04:02, Andrew Cowie wrote: >> I'm not sure if any other distros besides Ubuntu are using it yet, but >> certainly things will improve geometrically as they start to. > Considering it's not Free

Re: [gentoo-dev] GWN Comments

2006-06-20 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 With all the talk about forums and comments, that got me thinking: Heck, why not just have it posted to the forums? That way it and the comments can be viewed by the general public, but if you want to comment, you can just use your existing forum accou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise thread -- a try of clarification

2006-06-11 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Gianelloni wrote: > [. . .] Right on! :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEi/j4rsJQqN81j74RAsRHAKCJsN09KKGlLq5CD4Bh/7r9QYJ12QCgnFx1 lRWrDI1euePCP0MrwoP/Emg= =G9qu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-de

Re: [gentoo-dev] July Council Meeting: Requested Agenda Item

2006-06-11 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:00:43 +0200 > Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 11:37 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: >>> Have the GWN posted to -core in a sane time period prior to it's >>> release. I seriou

Re: [gentoo-dev] What is "official"?

2006-06-09 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To me, "official" means it's found anywhere within the gentoo.org/ webspace. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEif8drsJQqN81j74RApMAAJ9/e3txjQTIz1RHmpRAkbVc5DV4ggCfRhn1 T1D2O5hZMuUIouwc1iHYQhw= =A7/n -END PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage-2.1 released

2006-06-09 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alec Warner wrote: > Portage-2.1 final is released, Thanks for the hard work, Portage team. 2.1 is fabulous. Really, really good job! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEif5ArsJQqN81j74RAjq9AJ9mle+qd7Gb9Gc8dV2uL

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Thursday 08 June 2006 02:42, Stefan Schweizer wrote: >> Initially jokey and myself will be working on this. The current focus is to >> migrate ebuilds from bugzilla into the overlay and to get contributors to >> commit their

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA subproject, TreeCleaners

2006-06-05 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alec Warner wrote: > [...] Gets my vote. Good idea. :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEhFG6rsJQqN81j74RAsO1AKCybk+IHs6Bta0Jj/ZCoo2UP3YqZACeNLms bJowAD/7a9ukWOzX+qPVcAo= =a6gy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 encoding and file format of manuals

2006-06-01 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jan Kundrát wrote: > Wiktor Wandachowicz wrote: > >>Summing up: >>* UTF-8 manuals: good or bad? > > > The Only Way To Go (tm), IMHO. Let's let the legacy encodings die in piece. Agreed. I'd like to see much more extensive use of Unicode throughout

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Forums Staff : NeddySeagoon

2006-05-28 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shyam Mani wrote: > Please take a moment to welcome our latest addition to the Forums gang, > Roy Bamford aka NeddySeagoon. Welcome to the team! Wow, you've some credentials. I've certainly seen your unfailingly polite, helpful presence around the for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-18 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > The desired end result is installing a system. Paludis can do that > already, if you really want, and it will be able to do it much more > elegantly in the future. Aren't we looking (or trying to look) a *little beyond* just a

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