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On 11/27/2012 02:43 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
After discussing it at:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/262834
...
Apache itself is in need of some attention these days. The ChangeLog
shows only Patrick committing in the last six
On 12/01/2012 09:48 PM, Duncan wrote:
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn posted on Sun, 02 Dec 2012 01:28:26 +0100 as
excerpted:
If this change is applied anyway, I suggest to at least produce a news
item in order to not surprise users about the sudden loss of their
openldap server.
I wouldn't
On 12/01/2012 10:50 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
On 01/12/2012 19:44, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
Someone's going to reboot three months after this change and their whole
office is going to be down while they try to figure out why they don't
have an LDAP server. For even a small business
On 12/01/2012 11:21 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
On 01/12/2012 20:09, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
The only way to know what's going on is to read the ebuild. And nobody
has the time to do that for every default USE flag change, especially
when you're managing multiple machines.
In this case
On 12/02/2012 04:40 AM, Duncan wrote:
As others have mentioned, equery u[ses] openldap .
Does nothing in this case.
Actually, I have a bug open at this very moment about a new ambiguous USE
flag, USE=fma, in the new sci-libs/fftw-3.3.3 ebuild. My bdver1 has
fma4, but not fma3. Does
On 12/02/2012 11:19 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
On 02/12/2012 08:02, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
I think you have Stockholm syndrome. I've updated thousands of packages
this month. I cannot do this for each one, and even if I could, there's
a huge (unnecessary) opportunity cost to doing so
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On 12/16/2012 09:22 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
net-misc/openntpd
This one's easy, I could proxy-maintain it. These two are also
maintainer-needed:
* app-doc/djbdns-man
I'm maintaining djbdns, so I suppose I should have this one too. On
the
Inspired by the number of packages being unmaintained -- why not use
some of that bug bounty money to fix up the recruitment documentation
and maybe give the webpage a makeover? Marketing is a big part of the
problem.
1. Even MediaWiki (wiki.gentoo.org) looks better than www.gentoo.org.
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On 12/16/2012 12:02 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
On 16-12-2012 11:57:35 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
3. Get off CVS for Christ's sake. Nobody wants to work with that.
I don't know how this fits into my bullet list, but it's
important.
It doesn't
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On 12/16/2012 12:23 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
On 16-12-2012 12:20:10 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
Many new developers who want to contribute to to some project
will learn git, because a large number of important projects use
git. No (new
On 12/16/2012 01:27 PM, Duncan wrote:
Michael Orlitzky posted on Sun, 16 Dec 2012 12:20:10 -0500 as excerpted:
On 12/16/2012 12:02 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
On 16-12-2012 11:57:35 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
3. Get off CVS for Christ's sake. Nobody wants to work with that.
I don't know
On 12/16/12 16:32, Michał Górny wrote:
Get off powerpoint for your god of choice's sake. Nobody wants to work
with that (well, everybody I meet outside actually wants but
whatever) :P. Sorry, couldn't resist.
I was hoping nobody would call my bluff. This is the only avenue
available to me
On 12/16/12 13:53, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
1. Even MediaWiki (wiki.gentoo.org) looks better than www.gentoo.org.
That's impressive-bad.
People still think of Gentoo as a ricer distro that's broken all
the time, when in reality, it's one of the most stable. No one
On 12/16/12 14:04, Markos Chandras wrote:
On 16 December 2012 16:57, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote:
Inspired by the number of packages being unmaintained -- why not use
some of that bug bounty money to fix up the recruitment documentation
Recruitment documentatiob? What does
On 12/17/2012 10:32 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
Hi everyone,
Give the talk on the list about attracting devs, I've should probably
mention that I'm teaching a College Course on Gentoo Development next
semester. I know two students will most likely go through the
recruitment process,
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On 01/01/2013 02:14 PM, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote:
Hi there! Long time ago I discovered that many language-specific
packages (libraries, webapps) written on languages like PHP, Ruby,
Lua and so on has (often) almost hardcoded dependence to be
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On 01/01/2013 04:53 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
On 01/01/2013 22:12, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
In lieu of that, what we do is create ebuilds like
www-apps/redmine-dependencies. I manually parse the Gemfile for
the (R)DEPENDs. My life would
On 01/05/2013 12:47 AM, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
Some early work on it using Bootstrap:
http://a3li.li/~alex/g.o/
I really like this. The (admittedly kind-of ugly) logo and the flying
saucer thing are incorporated tastefully and it makes a big difference.
The zebra tables, and especially
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On 01/13/2013 12:58 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
If something is a six-liner made by Gentoo and for Gentoo, noone
cares enough to create a homepage for it.
http://gentoo.org is the most useless 'homepage' value you can use.
It doesn't mean
On 01/16/2013 11:36 AM, Michael Weber wrote:
emerge --upgrade
with a predefined EMERGE_UPGRADE_OPTS in make.conf (where
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS lives).
+1 so I can stop adding --oneshot onto every upgrade.
On 01/16/2013 11:47 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 01/16/2013 11:36 AM, Michael Weber wrote:
emerge --upgrade
with a predefined EMERGE_UPGRADE_OPTS in make.conf (where
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS lives).
+1 so I can stop adding --oneshot onto every upgrade.
Oh, damn, this isn't suggesting what I
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On 01/16/2013 12:24 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
On 16/01/13 11:47 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 01/16/2013 11:36 AM, Michael Weber wrote:
emerge --upgrade
with a predefined EMERGE_UPGRADE_OPTS in make.conf (where
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS lives
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On 01/16/2013 12:24 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
--upgrade wouldn't (couldn't, imo) replace --update.
Yes, sorry for the confusion. I use more than one package manager, and
when doing an update or upgrade I'm basically flipping a coin.
I just
On 01/17/2013 09:52 AM, Zac Medico wrote:
I strongly believe that it shouldn't; nevertheless, it does.
You can avoid this by adding --select=n to EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS. Then, if
you want to add something to world, use --select (or -w in latest
portage which isn't marked stable yet).
This
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On 01/17/2013 12:11 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
... so what's the problem here, exactly?
I don't want @world to get screwed up, either by having unnecessary
packages, or by missing ones we need.
(a) 'emerge -u [pkg]' adds extra bits to @world
On 01/24/13 05:02, Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
I've recently upgraded some server from kernel-2.6.28 to kernel-3.5.7 and
encountered that the root-device was renamed from /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 to
/dev/sda1 due to some kernel driver change (took me a while to find out).
I'm not using genkernel
On 01/24/13 13:25, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote:
a fatal die in pkg_pretend could be circumvented by an environment
variable such as ${PN}_I_KNOW_WHAT_IM_DOING being set. Just a thought.
If we're going to do this I'd definitely
On 01/24/13 13:58, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
How about, you know what you're doing and are going to build a new
kernel as soon as the emerge finishes (since the emerge is also
bringing in a new gentoo-sources)??
If you're going to upgrade both anyway, you should be upgrading the
kernel
On 01/24/13 15:26, viv...@gmail.com wrote:
If you're going to upgrade both anyway, you should be upgrading the
kernel first. That way if you lose power or the system crashes, the box
can reboot.
which can be the exact opposite order if instead you have to _disable_ a
feature in the kernel
On 01/24/13 15:39, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 01/24/13 15:26, viv...@gmail.com wrote:
If you're going to upgrade both anyway, you should be upgrading the
kernel first. That way if you lose power or the system crashes, the box
can reboot.
which can be the exact opposite order if instead you
On 01/24/13 19:29, viv...@gmail.com wrote:
actually it wasn't an issue that could made a system un-bootable but was
like this:
* udev-129 could live with CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED=y
* udev-130 require CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED not set
The example was given just to underline the fact that a
On 01/24/2013 08:39 PM, Duncan wrote:
Now I've chosen to set that using package.env so it applies only to glibc,
but I imagine many users have it set in their make.conf, because a lot of
packages use it, and they were forced to set it for one or another at
some point.
Using package.env
On 01/24/2013 10:12 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
Otherwise we're just finding creative ways to drive away users. Sure,
we can call them stupid on their way out the door, but while I can't
speak for anybody else, I'm mainly here because I'd like to do some
good, and I wouldn't mind it if I found
On 03/10/2013 02:11 PM, hasufell wrote:
On 03/10/2013 07:04 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 12:44:18 +0100
Tomáš Chvátal tomas.chva...@gmail.com wrote:
If I remember correctly the damn rule is to put it for 30 days into
testing, and as you said there was no previous version on
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On 03/23/2013 02:50 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El sáb, 23-03-2013 a las 14:40 -0400, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
escribió:
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On 03/23/2013 02:06 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
Today I tried to boot latest install ISO
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On 05/23/2013 04:02 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
I can't speak for others who wish to rid their systems of systemd,
but personally I look for any excessive use of space on my HDD,
despite it being rather large. Since you brought it up, which
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On 06/12/2013 01:13 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 19:05:29 +0200 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org
wrote:
Isn't it more an indication that Gentoo needs better package
management support for overlays?
No.
You make a persuasive
On 06/12/2013 06:31 PM, Greg Turner wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com
wrote:
On 06/12/2013 01:13 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 19:05:29 +0200 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org
wrote:
Isn't it more an indication that Gentoo needs
On 06/13/2013 12:56 AM, Alexander V Vershilov wrote:
The main reason it isn't is because nobody wants to use CVS. For
good
examples, see sunrise or
gentoo-haskell.
As a part of gentoo-haskell team, I'd like to say that CVS issue is
not strongest one, there are much more meaningful reasons
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On 08/04/2013 04:37 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
I thought about gentoo-networking, but that sucks in a way too
because it implies that everyone on gentoo should be using it.
...
How about gen-net? It's nice, short and the name is more
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On 08/04/2013 06:20 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 10:15:35PM +, Duncan wrote:
Michael Orlitzky posted on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:01:40 -0400 as
excerpted:
Since it was pulled out of openrc, the name netrc also
suggests itself
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On 08/04/2013 06:36 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
Since it was pulled out of openrc, the name netrc also suggests
itself.
'net run control'?
Sounds about right. We can say it's net run configuration if that's
better politically.
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On 08/05/2013 06:09 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
- netrc (conflicts)
Would naming it net-rc alleviate the perceived conflict?
On 08/05/2013 09:45 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 08/05/2013 06:09 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
- netrc (conflicts)
Would naming it net-rc alleviate the perceived conflict?
Or, duh, networkrc.
On 08/18/2013 12:39 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
The current epatch() would remain available in eutils.eclass for cases
where its more advanced modes of operation are needed.
...
2. Should the function do automatic -p* detection, or should it
default to -p1? Both would be overridable by an
On 08/20/2013 02:19 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
My question is, how can we improve our stabilization procedures/policies
so we can convince people not to run production servers on ~arch and
keep the stable tree more up to date?
Just delete /etc/conf.d/net with an ~arch update every once in a
On 08/21/2013 12:35 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
On 21 August 2013 04:12, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote:
[snip]
Ok, this one is ridiculous. The stable version of Rails is 2.3.18, and
3.0 was released almost exactly three years ago. Every time rails-3.x
gets bumped, I have to manually
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On 09/21/2013 11:42 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
GRUB2 will be stabilized soon (bug 455544). Here's a draft of a
news item to hopefully prevent any confusion. Please review.
The FAQ / Known Problems / Gotchas section of the guide is still
empty. Maybe
On 03/07/2012 03:41 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
*** Proposal 2: EAPI in header comment ***
A different approach would be to specify the EAPI in a specially
formatted comment in the ebuild's header. No syntax has been suggested
yet, but I believe that the following would work as a specification:
On 03/08/2012 07:03 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
Someone suggested using a standard shebang the last time this came
up, and if I remember correctly it was one of the least-disagreeable
solutions proposed. We could of course define our own custom format,
but I think something like,
On 03/07/2012 03:41 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
*** Proposal 1: Parse the EAPI assignment statement ***
There's also libbash now:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/libbash/index.xml
Anyone know how close we are to being able to use it to parse the EAPI?
On 03/08/2012 12:28 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
And something will need to provide that /usr/bin/eapi4 thing. And that
introduces new problems:
I'm just parroting someone else's suggestion; I don't really know enough
about the details to answer these properly. Not that that will stop me.
1)
On 03/08/2012 12:53 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 12:48:51 -0500
Michael Orlitzkymich...@orlitzky.com wrote:
On 03/08/2012 12:28 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
And something will need to provide that /usr/bin/eapi4 thing. And
that introduces new problems:
I'm just parroting
On 03/08/2012 01:48 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
If they're code, they're code, and we need to execute them somehow.
The notion of execute them somehow that's used doesn't fit in with
the #! interpreter model. You aren't executing ebuilds via an
interpreter. You're performing an action that
On 03/09/2012 12:04 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
This is of course isomorphic to requiring a specific EAPI=4 format,
but does allow you to do stupid things like x=`seq 4 4`; eapi $x; if
you want.
What advantage does it give us? We still can't change ebuild syntax in
global scope because bash will
On 03/09/12 00:51, Zac Medico wrote:
On 03/08/2012 09:35 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
The function can do any crazy thing you want.
We don't need a function. We need to know the EAPI before we source the
ebuild, and a function doesn't give us that.
Surely we can source one or two lines
On 03/09/12 10:05, Zac Medico wrote:
Surely we can source one or two lines of the ebuild safely, like the
example shows?
Why would we though, when sourcing is a relatively costly operation, and
there are much more efficient ways to get the EAPI?
There do not seem to be any that people
On 03/09/12 10:58, Zac Medico wrote:
On 03/09/2012 07:51 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 07:41:09 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 03/09/2012 07:21 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
The advantage that the eapi function has over a comment is that
it's not magic -- it's
On 03/09/12 11:29, Michał Górny wrote:
What if bash starts to parse the script completely and barfs at 'syntax
error' before it starts executing stuff?
It doesn't parse the script completely, it executes line-by-line, so we
can bail out early.
This returns 1:
exit 1
On 03/09/12 12:11, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
On Fri, 09 Mar 2012, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
What if bash starts to parse the script completely and barfs at
'syntax error' before it starts executing stuff?
It doesn't parse the script completely, it executes line-by-line, so
we can bail out early
On 03/09/12 12:47, Zac Medico wrote:
Ulrich is talking about extensions which require a newer version of
bash. These kinds of extensions are quite common and don't cause
massive breaking because people simply have to upgrade bash in order
to use the new extensions, and their old scripts
On 03/09/12 13:02, James Broadhead wrote:
On 9 March 2012 17:31, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote:
At any rate, I'm now convinced that we all want GLEP 55, but with a
different name.
I think that moving the data to the filename is probably a better
approach than semi- or repeat
On 03/09/12 13:56, Zac Medico wrote:
On 03/09/2012 10:33 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 03/09/12 13:02, James Broadhead wrote:
On 9 March 2012 17:31, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote:
At any rate, I'm now convinced that we all want GLEP 55, but with a
different name.
I think
On 03/12/12 13:12, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:05:46 +0100
Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote:
See above, even if we should ever move away from bash, GLEP 55 is
still not needed.
...but we might as well go with GLEP 55 anyway, since GLEP 55
definitely works, whereas
On 03/13/2012 08:29 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
I'm answering Ciaran's and Brian's posts together, because the answer
is the same for both... namely, we need a 2-pass processor, regardless
of whether it's bash/perl/python/whatever. Pass 1 checks for syntax
errors and retrieves special variables,
On 03/13/2012 10:05 PM, Zac Medico wrote:
On 03/13/2012 06:42 PM, Brian Harring wrote:
Leaving it such that the PM has to enforce things like don't have
multiple EAPI assignments means by default, one of them isn't going
to... leading to the ebuilds breaking... specifically the common case
On 03/13/2012 10:36 PM, Zac Medico wrote:
On 03/13/2012 07:23 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
Someone should really throw up a table on wiki.g.o with a comparison of
the proposed methods.
We've got one already:
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Alternate_EAPI_mechanisms
*facepalm*
On 03/16/12 11:18, Greg KH wrote:
At least find a package that people use :)
www-client/httrack?
On 03/22/2012 03:29 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 03/22/2012 09:25 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
If anyone is intrested in helping around with Xfce we have 2 bigger
tasks on going:
1) Pass --libexecdir=${EPREFIX} to all plugins installing to
/usr/libexec/xfce4/ as opposed to /usr/lib/xfce4/
On 05/05/12 14:40, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
Hiya,
there's a growing culture of libreoffice extensions, and (with the help of an
eclass prepared by scarabeus) it would be nice to get some of them into the
portage tree. Now we have to decide where to put them.
Suggestion: new category
How about introducing e.g. FEATURES=nouserpriv, and make the current
userpriv behavior the default?
The migration might be a bit more confusing, but it allows portage to
gradually adopt better stuff without having FEATURES=everything under
the sun.
On 05/29/12 15:58, Mike Gilbert wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com
wrote:
How about introducing e.g. FEATURES=nouserpriv, and make the current
userpriv behavior the default?
Portage currently defaults to running the build process as root
On 05/30/2012 05:23 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday 30 May 2012 13:01:24 Michał Górny wrote:
This issue was given my attention through bug 418217 [1]. Long
story short -- there are applications which call pager
implicitly. Those are git systemd. They don't actually require
any pager
On 05/31/12 16:09, Michał Górny wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2012 15:58:43 -0400
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org
wrote:
What would git signing work with rebased commits? Would all of them
have to be signed once again?
The
On 06/15/12 09:32, Michał Górny wrote:
It is a little confusing when the function reports .a removal when no
such file exists. Also, explain why the file is removed.
Why keep the -f?
---
eclass/eutils.eclass |6 --
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git
On 07/17/12 07:21, Eray Aslan wrote:
On 07/17/2012 02:00 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
It may be a small issue, but since the potential pain is quite large,
Yes, that's the idea.
since postfix config file changes are usually
pretty hard to review for merges.
Hmm, that's a failure on our
On 07/24/12 09:21, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
Given that this just affects new installs, is a news item (via
portage) a particularly good way to inform everyone? I was wondering
if it'd make more sense to notify on the website and *definitely*
change the Handbook...
..and maybe include an
On 07/24/12 14:52, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote:
This is a big enough change that it will throw users who do not know,
and my first impression of /etc/make.conf et all missing on a new stage
is file a bug report for a broken stage and assign it to those morons
in releng. (please note the
On 07/26/12 14:26, Rich Freeman wrote:
I've been messing around with namespaces and some of what systemd has
been doing with them, and I have an idea for a portage feature.
But before doing a brain dump of ideas, how useful would it be to have
a FEATURE for portage to do a limited-visibility
On 07/27/12 16:16, Aaron W. Swenson wrote:
No user will be happy with whatever we decide to use as a default.
The defaults should be what's best for the most people, with a bias
towards safety. Why don't we just take a survey and choose the most
common utf8 response?
On 07/30/12 10:41, Michał Górny wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:35:36 -0400
Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote:
On 07/27/12 16:16, Aaron W. Swenson wrote:
No user will be happy with whatever we decide to use as a default.
The defaults should be what's best for the most people
On 07/30/12 12:28, Michał Górny wrote:
My point here is that you want the thing to change. So you first try to
convince people here to change. We practically did a small survey here
and in the result we didn't agree on doing the change.
So you're saying we should do another survey on
On 07/30/12 15:02, Walter Dnes wrote:
Would forcing UTF-8 cause problems for packages that expect
specific ISO encodings in X fonts?
Not that I know of (and setting a default wouldn't force anything).
xfreecell's readme states Make sure there is a font named 7x14 and
another thread mentions
On 08/01/12 16:18, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
If it turns out that C or POSIX is the most common response, we should
then default the locale to en_US.UTF-8 if we really want to default to
a UTF-8 setting. The reason being it makes sense to have the default
locale set to the country of
On 09/02/2012 09:46 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org
wrote:
What I dont actually understand at all is why bumping the EAPI should be so
complicated or involved that it even deserves so much resistance...
rantOk, it REALLY
On 09/04/2012 05:06 PM, Brian Harring wrote:
As a compromise, it could be made policy that bump to EAPI=foo bugs
are valid. If someone would benefit from such a bump, he can file a bug
and know that it won't be closed WONTFIX. On the other hand, the dev is
under no more pressure than usual to
On 09/05/2012 12:15 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote:
On 09/04/2012 05:06 PM, Brian Harring wrote:
As a compromise, it could be made policy that bump to EAPI=foo bugs
are valid. If someone would benefit from such a bump, he
On 09/05/2012 05:29 PM, Brian Harring wrote:
Yes, I stated it because I view it as useful/sane.
and isn't a compromise at all.
I think you're mistaken in assuming a compromise is the required
outcome of this. Given the choice between something productive, and
something not
On 09/07/2012 07:45 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Since DEPENDENCIES hasn't been written up in a Gentoo-friendly
manner, and since the Exherbo documentation doesn't seem to suffice
to explain the idea here, here's some more details on the
DEPENDENCIES proposal.
It seems to me that the problem
On 09/08/2012 02:43 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:55:10 -0400 Michael Orlitzky
mich...@orlitzky.com wrote:
I think that dependencies are ultimately not hierarchical
Situations like foo? ( bar? ( || ( a ( b c ) ) ) ) do happen, so
any new syntax would have to be able
On 09/19/2012 06:59 AM, Duncan wrote:
Ben de Groot posted on Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:22:06 +0800 as excerpted:
On 16 September 2012 21:15, Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote:
So... basically, people are already doing this manually with their own
intermediate vars.
And this works fine, so
On 10/31/2012 10:05 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:18 AM, li...@aixah.de wrote:
Maybe you should remember that non-devs simply /aren't allowed/ to
assign bugs correctly...
And if you look closer into these bugs, you might discover that jer
instructed this guy to file
On 11/05/2012 10:39 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
On 05/11/2012 07:31, Steven J. Long wrote:
Are you really missing the fact that by testing someone's overlay, the
package
would by definition not be in the tree, and you wouldn't have to file any
bugs
at all, just (automatically) email the
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On 11/05/2012 12:15 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
On 05/11/12 12:00 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
1) Over time, unstable has become too stable (I know, I know).
People expect things to work, and nobody wants to break working
systems by committing
On 11/14/2012 06:17 AM, Peter Stuge wrote:
Samuli Suominen wrote:
so unless you are willing to go that far as introducing yourself at the
xfce devel mailing list and accepting the mantle of upstream of them, we
are really stuck at this distribution level patching just like others
That
On 11/04/2013 04:46 PM, Duncan wrote:
I imagine were emerge being written today, -1 /would/ be the default, and
there'd be an option like --select to add to the @world file if
necessary. That's actually the way I setup my scripts, with -1 the
default, and an extra 2 suffix script variant
On 11/05/2013 09:49 AM, mingdao wrote:
Flameeyes wrote the following blog post concerning this issue:
http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2012/10/may-i-have-a-network-connection-please
and the link gives me a (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert).
You should disable OCSP anyway. In Firefox,
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On 11/06/2013 02:11 PM, Thomas D. wrote:
This is going OT but I cannot leave this statement uncommented,
because from my knowledge this is wrong/you are hiding important
information everyone should know about:
I figure everyone here is smart
On 12/10/2013 09:18 PM, Paul B. Henson wrote:
I'd say go one step further and get rid of vixie-cron completely, is
there anything it does that cronie can't do as well or better?
Is cronie a drop-in replacement, or do I have to do some thinking when
replacing vixie-cron?
On 12/11/2013 03:03 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
Is cronie a drop-in replacement, or do I have to do some thinking when
replacing vixie-cron?
It should be a drop-in. The only change to make would be to remove
vixie-cron and add cronie to the default runlevel.
I noticed two small differences:
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