[gentoo-dev] Handling of keywording bugs with only one arch

2010-03-12 Thread Petteri Räty
There seems to be two different schools on who to assign a keywording bug with only a single arch. I have myself assigned it to the arch in question but there's a difference of opinion here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=272160#c5 Let's get agreed on a single approach and I will add a

[gentoo-dev] eqawarn for main tree

2010-03-12 Thread Petteri Räty
In eclasses there's often use for outputting QA warnings for ebuild authors (at least in java and python could immediately make use of this). Currently Portage has eqawarn available but it's considered internal. Hopefully eqawarn finds it's way to the next EAPI but in the mean while do we want:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling of keywording bugs with only one arch

2010-03-12 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/12/2010 09:39 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: On 3/12/10 8:18 PM, Petteri Räty wrote: There seems to be two different schools on who to assign a keywording bug with only a single arch. Why a special case for that? The general rule seems to be that the owner is the maintaining herd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item

2010-03-08 Thread Petteri Räty
On 8.3.2010 16.23, Peter Hjalmarsson wrote: AFAICS you are right (and that is also why I have a hard time understanding the flames here, are people so against fixing the deps in their packages and/or filing bugs and/or contacting devrel about those maintainers who refuse to fix their

Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item

2010-03-07 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/07/2010 07:11 PM, Mark Loeser wrote: Absolutely not. Its actually the opposite. Until 90+% of the tree just works with the new version of python, it should not be stabilized. The stable tree should all Just Work together. Stabilizing python-3 at this point would be the equivalent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item

2010-03-07 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/07/2010 07:32 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: +1 no need to stabilize experimental python, not even convinced it should be in ~arch yet (but package.masked for testing) I don't think upstream considers python 3 experimental so when it can be installed side by side with 2.6 so that

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] making autotools.eclass depends flexible

2010-03-07 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/07/2010 07:42 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 06 March 2010 02:11:15 Petteri Räty wrote: On 03/05/2010 08:59 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: sometimes i have optional patches (ignoring the patches should always be applied) where autotools should be run. always inheriting autotools

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] making autotools.eclass depends flexible

2010-03-07 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/07/2010 08:36 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 07 March 2010 13:31:56 Petteri Räty wrote: On 03/07/2010 07:42 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 06 March 2010 02:11:15 Petteri Räty wrote: On 03/05/2010 08:59 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: sometimes i have optional patches (ignoring

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] making autotools.eclass depends flexible

2010-03-07 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/07/2010 11:44 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 07 March 2010 14:08:29 Petteri Räty wrote: On 03/07/2010 08:36 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 07 March 2010 13:31:56 Petteri Räty wrote: On 03/07/2010 07:42 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 06 March 2010 02:11:15 Petteri Räty

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [rfc] making autotools.eclass depends flexible

2010-03-06 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/06/2010 08:28 PM, Jonathan Callen wrote: On 03/06/2010 02:11 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: What we use in Java is JAVA_PKG_OPT_USE to declare what use flag the DEPENDs should be under. This approach doesn't allow the ebuild maintainer to forget adding the depends. That approach also

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI =2

2010-03-05 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/05/2010 10:14 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: Because then people use them. Don't ask me why. I have things I deprecated over two years ago still being used by a dozen ebuilds bumped within the last three months. You should be familiar with this behaviour wrt. built_with_use. So, when I'm

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving packages to dev-vcs

2010-03-05 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/05/2010 07:18 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: On 03/05/10 18:10, Jeroen Roovers wrote: 4. Notify = [..] This step should probably include correcting all open bug reports' Summaries to point to the new category, so that CAT/PN can be found using the simple search interface.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] making autotools.eclass depends flexible

2010-03-05 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/05/2010 08:59 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: sometimes i have optional patches (ignoring the patches should always be applied) where autotools should be run. always inheriting autotools is currently annoying because it always adds the related dependencies. USE based inherits are obviously

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for version control

2010-03-04 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/04/2010 11:35 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:32:47 +0100 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Christian Faulhammer wrote: My proposal would be to call it dev-scm and put all version controls, direct frontends, plugins and the like into that.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving packages to dev-vcs

2010-03-04 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/04/2010 11:28 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On Thursday 04 March 2010 23:08:06 Sebastian Pipping wrote: - Update reverse dependencies http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/misc/dindex/dev-util/${PN} http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/misc/rindex/dev-util/${PN} This might require too much

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI =2

2010-03-03 Thread Petteri Räty
On 3.3.2010 11.23, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: 2010/3/3 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org: Removing eclass functions like this is not allowed by current policy. If you want to do it, you should discuss about changing policy. ?! since when? Since ever. If you change eclass abi you need to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI =2

2010-03-03 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/03/2010 02:47 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:47:37 +0100 Tomáa Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org wrote: Removing eclass functions like this is not allowed by current policy. If you want to do it, you should discuss about changing policy. since when? Since ever. If you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI =2

2010-03-03 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/03/2010 02:40 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:09:49 +0200 Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 3.3.2010 11.23, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: 2010/3/3 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org: Removing eclass functions like this is not allowed by current policy. If you want

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI =2

2010-03-03 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/03/2010 11:39 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: Also policies should be changed when they don't make sense any more as I said in my first response but I am not sure if that's the case here. The problem is I don't think this is actually a policy. One of the first projects I did as a developer,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI =2

2010-03-03 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/04/2010 09:39 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Thu, 04 Mar 2010, Petteri Räty wrote: If we decide allowing removal of functions, we should come up with a common procedure like the eclass removal policy: http://devmanual.gentoo.org/eclass-writing/index.html I think removal of functions

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI =2

2010-03-02 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/02/2010 08:27 PM, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: Members of Gentoo Python Project have agreed to deprecate the following functions in EAPI =2: - python_version() - python_mod_exists() - python_tkinter_exists() - distutils_python_version() -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Check LICENSE and SRC_URI changes when bumping GNU packages

2010-02-24 Thread Petteri Räty
On 24.2.2010 8.19, Jeroen Roovers wrote: Oh, and one other thing. Attached is a list of ebuild that use ftp.gnu.org instead of mirror://gnu in their SRC_URI. Please make the switch. Maybe this should be a QA check as well? repoman would have all the information it needed... There's already

Re: [gentoo-dev] The importance of test suites

2010-02-21 Thread Petteri Räty
On 21.2.2010 1.11, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: Is it acceptable for another dev to jump in and add RESTRICT=test to an ebuild if the maintainer does not respond to a bug report in a timely manner? Preference order: 1. Fix the tests 2. Disable just the failing test 3. RESTRICT=test Regards,

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ACCEPT_LICENSE and deprecation of check_license

2010-02-21 Thread Petteri Räty
On 20.2.2010 14.28, Zac Medico wrote: Hi, Since portage-2.1.7.x is stable now, with ACCEPT_LICENSE support, we can think about deprecating check_license [1]. This will allow us to avoid using PROPERTIES=interactive in cases when it is due to check_license alone, since anything with a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ACCEPT_LICENSE and deprecation of check_license

2010-02-21 Thread Petteri Räty
On 21.2.2010 14.17, Zac Medico wrote: On 02/21/2010 09:08 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: On 20.2.2010 14.28, Zac Medico wrote: Hi, Since portage-2.1.7.x is stable now, with ACCEPT_LICENSE support, we can think about deprecating check_license [1]. This will allow us to avoid using PROPERTIES

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ACCEPT_LICENSE and deprecation of check_license

2010-02-21 Thread Petteri Räty
On 21.2.2010 14.49, Zac Medico wrote: On 02/21/2010 02:36 PM, Petteri Räty wrote: On 21.2.2010 14.17, Zac Medico wrote: On 02/21/2010 09:08 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: On 20.2.2010 14.28, Zac Medico wrote: Hi, Since portage-2.1.7.x is stable now, with ACCEPT_LICENSE support, we can think about

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ACCEPT_LICENSE and deprecation of check_license

2010-02-21 Thread Petteri Räty
On 21.2.2010 15.21, Zac Medico wrote: Likely there wouldn't be any breakage with it doing it in EAPI 3 but it would be against the eclass contract of not changing expected behavior. Given that check_license already returns silently if the user has accepted the appropriate license(s) via

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eutils changes wrt EAPI-3 - ebeep and epause no longer available

2010-02-17 Thread Petteri Räty
On 17.2.2010 16.33, Torsten Veller wrote: --- eutils.eclass 15 Feb 2010 02:10:39 - 1.330 +++ eutils.eclass 17 Feb 2010 14:13:16 - @@ -50,6 +50,15 @@ done fi } +else + ebeep() { + eqawarn ebeep is not defined in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eutils changes wrt EAPI-3 - ebeep and epause no longer available

2010-02-17 Thread Petteri Räty
On 17.2.2010 20.03, Jeremy Olexa wrote: What is going on with all these undocumented changes? When I look at the council logs to see what is in EAPI3, I don't see anything about removing functions. This is just silly and wastes alot of people's time for no practical gain. In my EAPI3

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item: MySQL 5.1 bump

2010-02-16 Thread Petteri Räty
On 15.2.2010 22.26, Robin H. Johnson wrote: As soon as the 72 hours on this news announcement are done, I'm going to be unmasking it. I do expect most of the breakage to come from the client libraries, and NOT any actual data storage issues. If MySQL detects that it's not safe to access a

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge -C eselect-python disaster

2010-01-25 Thread Petteri Räty
On 01/25/2010 02:02 AM, Dale wrote: Is there something that I am missing here? For me, system should include the things needed for booting and for the package manager to work. If it can't contain python then portage has a problem. As I pointed out in another reply, portage won't let you

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge -C eselect-python disaster

2010-01-25 Thread Petteri Räty
On 25.1.2010 13.02, Dale wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: On 01/25/2010 04:28 AM, Dale wrote: Well put. I would agree that a simple warning should be given before removing a system package or a package that system must have, especially portage. Maybe what portage needs is a reverse -n feature

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge -C eselect-python disaster

2010-01-25 Thread Petteri Räty
On 25.1.2010 13.30, Petteri Räty wrote: So there is already a option that is the reverse of -n ? Dale :-) :-) You would first have to define the reverse to avoid misunderstanding. --noreplace (-n) Skips the packages specified on the command-line that have already been installed. Reverse

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge -C eselect-python disaster

2010-01-25 Thread Petteri Räty
On 25.1.2010 18.20, Jacob Godserv wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 06:32, Petteri Rätybetelge...@gentoo.org wrote: I should also add that this is not a user support mailing list as there's gentoo-user for that purpose. I think the original purpose of the thread was already fulfilled. So then

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge -C eselect-python disaster

2010-01-25 Thread Petteri Räty
On 25.1.2010 18.06, Dale wrote: I am subscribed to -user as well. I been using Gentoo since the 1.4 days. This is about improving portage which is a good thing to talk about here. The devs do it, not the user. ;-) Also, I already know how to use portage pretty good. I'm not asking for support

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge -C eselect-python disaster

2010-01-25 Thread Petteri Räty
On 01/25/2010 07:07 PM, Dale wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: On 25.1.2010 18.20, Jacob Godserv wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 06:32, Petteri Rätybetelge...@gentoo.org wrote: I should also add that this is not a user support mailing list as there's gentoo-user for that purpose. I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: don't define ebeep and epause in eutils in EAPI 3

2010-01-25 Thread Petteri Räty
On 01/17/2010 11:12 PM, David Leverton wrote: On Sunday 17 January 2010 20:38:48 Petteri Räty wrote: With GLEP 42 and proper logging of e* messages I think we shouldn't annoy users any more with ebeep or epause so attached is a patch only defines these functions for EAPIs 0, 1 and 2. Anyone

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge -C eselect-python disaster

2010-01-24 Thread Petteri Räty
On 01/24/2010 07:12 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote: should not be marked as system ? it removes python-wrapper and this remove python link from /usr/bin/python linked to /usr/bin/python-wrapper so all portage does not work after this, but i solved it with a quickpkg from another host my dump

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge -C eselect-python disaster

2010-01-24 Thread Petteri Räty
On 01/24/2010 07:12 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote: should not be marked as system ? it removes python-wrapper and this remove python link from /usr/bin/python linked to /usr/bin/python-wrapper so all portage does not work after this, but i solved it with a quickpkg from another host my dump

[gentoo-dev] built_with_use removal

2010-01-24 Thread Petteri Räty
I looked at what kind of a difference cvs up made to built_with_use usage. betelge...@pena /usr/portage $ grep --include *.ebuild built_with_use -r . | wc -l 690 cvs up betelge...@pena /usr/portage $ grep --include *.ebuild built_with_use -r . | wc -l 708 There should be no legitimate reason

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge -C eselect-python disaster

2010-01-24 Thread Petteri Räty
On 01/24/2010 03:02 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: 2010/1/24 Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org: The meaning of the system set is to have only the packages directly required to have a minimal functioning system. Having python by itself is not a requirement for that but having package management

Re: [gentoo-dev] built_with_use removal

2010-01-24 Thread Petteri Räty
On 01/24/2010 08:09 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: On 1/24/10 5:51 PM, Petteri Räty wrote: There should be no legitimate reason for the number to go up so please whenever bumping ebuilds, remove the usage of built_with_use. How about adding a repoman check for that? Paweł Already done

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge -C eselect-python disaster

2010-01-24 Thread Petteri Räty
On 01/24/2010 08:20 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: 2010/1/24 Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org: On 01/24/2010 03:02 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: You can't have functioning package management without the hard dependencies it requires. So both portage and python should be in the system set. Why should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] built_with_use removal

2010-01-24 Thread Petteri Räty
On 01/24/2010 10:12 PM, Diego Elio “Flameeyes” Pettenò wrote: Il giorno dom, 24/01/2010 alle 18.51 +0200, Petteri Räty ha scritto: There should be no legitimate reason for the number to go up so please whenever bumping ebuilds, remove the usage of built_with_use. There is still legitimate

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-3 times and dates

2010-01-22 Thread Petteri Räty
On 01/22/2010 10:58 AM, Torsten Veller wrote: EAPI-3 was approved by the council during their last meeting (2010-01-18). Which portage versions do support it? (I wasn't able to find it in the docs.) I haven't heard of a release that would. When can we stabilize EAPI-3 ebuilds? (I guess

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn

2010-01-20 Thread Petteri Räty
On 18.1.2010 4.17, Richard Freeman wrote: On 01/17/2010 08:23 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: What about something like: if a bug has been open for 2 months without any apparent maintainer activity, anyone can step in and commit a fix? How about - anybody at any time can at their discretion post a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: don't define ebeep and epause in eutils in EAPI 3

2010-01-19 Thread Petteri Räty
On 01/19/2010 10:37 AM, Peter Volkov wrote: В Втр, 19/01/2010 в 01:22 +0200, Petteri Räty пишет: On 01/18/2010 03:02 PM, Tiziano Müller wrote: The proper replacement for such interactive notifications when called in pkg_setup is pkg_pretend, which will (hopefully) be available in EAPI 4. Thus

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: don't define ebeep and epause in eutils in EAPI 3

2010-01-18 Thread Petteri Räty
On 01/18/2010 03:02 PM, Tiziano Müller wrote: The proper replacement for such interactive notifications when called in pkg_setup is pkg_pretend, which will (hopefully) be available in EAPI 4. Thus I'd keep them around until then. Cheers, Tiziano ebeep or epause don't make your ebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: don't define ebeep and epause in eutils in EAPI 3

2010-01-18 Thread Petteri Räty
On 01/18/2010 10:07 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Sun, 17 Jan 2010, Petteri Räty wrote: With GLEP 42 and proper logging of e* messages I think we shouldn't annoy users any more with ebeep or epause Agreed. so attached is a patch only defines these functions for EAPIs 0, 1 and 2. Anyone

[gentoo-dev] RFC: don't define ebeep and epause in eutils in EAPI 3

2010-01-17 Thread Petteri Räty
With GLEP 42 and proper logging of e* messages I think we shouldn't annoy users any more with ebeep or epause so attached is a patch only defines these functions for EAPIs 0, 1 and 2. Anyone have a reason to keep these around for EAPI 3? If not I will apply the attached patch. Regards, Petteri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: ccc.eclass

2010-01-16 Thread Petteri Räty
On 01/12/2010 12:23 AM, Brian Harring wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 09:25:51PM +0100, Raaal Porcel wrote: scarabeus told me that the eclass can't be removed until two years since the deprecation date, so... Removal of the eclass on 2012/01/11 Reasoning? Prior to env saving we couldn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy maintainership and gentoo-x86 scm

2010-01-14 Thread Petteri Räty
On 01/15/2010 12:54 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: That top item is the largest blocker. The actual conversion time is down to 9 hours, but with more than that again in setting it up. I'd like to get the conversion time down to UNDER 4 hours. It's mostly single-threaded, and we've got lots of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why do packages which will not build remain in the distribution list?

2009-12-30 Thread Petteri Räty
On 12/30/2009 12:11 PM, Robert Bradbury wrote: For the last week or so, there have been packages in the world distribution list which previously installed fine which currently do not, these include ruby-gdkpixbuf2, ruby-pango, ruby-gtk2, ruby-gnomecanvas2, ruby-gnome2 and ruby-libglade2 (this

Re: [gentoo-dev] x11-libs/lib*: wrong RDEPENDs bug

2009-12-28 Thread Petteri Räty
On 12/28/2009 11:10 AM, lx...@gentoo.org wrote: To x11, just don't get angry (eheh), let's discuss concerns here (actually I don't see any and I am willing to fix all the ebuilds and close all my bugs if you ack). Filing bugs first and then opening discussion here doesn't make sense. It

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA last rites for media-gfx/viewer

2009-12-25 Thread Petteri Räty
On 12/25/2009 10:41 PM, Jeremy Olexa wrote: James Cloos wrote: Diego == Diego E Petten� flamee...@gmail.com writes: Diego # Fails to build if /usr/X11R6 is not present (bug #247737, A bit trivial of an issue to drop a package, ja? The QA team should generate more patches and fewer kills.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Heads up: cmake-utils.eclass changes

2009-12-14 Thread Petteri Räty
On 12/13/2009 04:28 PM, Jonathan Callen wrote: Recently a change was made to cmake-utils.eclass, changing the mycmakeargs parameter from a flat string to an array. This change was also made to kde4-{base,meta}.eclass. The primary reason for this change was to allow parameters passed to cmake

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 27 Bump

2009-11-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Doug Goldstein wrote: GLEP 27 [1] seems pretty stagnant and I'm planning on giving it a bit of a refresh and actually implementing it. Now before I do this I'm not in love with the format in tree but I haven't decided on a format exactly in my head. So that being said, I'm sending this out

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-themes/auroare: metadata.xml ChangeLog aurorae-0.2.1.ebuild

2009-11-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 08:04:59PM +, Tomas Chvatal (scarabeus) wrote: scarabeus09/11/13 20:04:59 Added:metadata.xml ChangeLog aurorae-0.2.1.ebuild Log: Initial commit. From sabayon overlay, basic ebuild from Thev00d00. (Portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: Peter Volkov wrote: Looks like this will not work for all noarch packages. Stardict dictionary itself is noarch, but it RDEPENDS on stardict package which is keyworded only on some archs. So we'll be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Patrick Lauer wrote: On Sunday 08 November 2009 15:21:18 Peter Volkov wrote: В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 11:56 +, Patrick Lauer (patrick) пишет: patrick 09/11/08 11:56:46 Log: Bump file : http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/app-forensics/foremost/fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Patrick Lauer wrote: So I'd appreciate if y'all stopped obsessing about such details and just fix it instead of whining at me until my motivation takes a long walk on the beach and doesn't return for quite some time. At least I'm trying to keep these packages alive, which noone else

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory

2009-11-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 08 November 2009 10:25:56 Peter Volkov wrote: В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 09:40 -0500, Mike Frysinger пишет: On Sunday 08 November 2009 08:35:10 Joe Sapp wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Joe Sapp (nixphoeni) wrote: nixphoeni09/10/27 11:21:25 Log: Directory

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Tobias Klausmann wrote: Hi! On Wed, 04 Nov 2009, Ryan Hill wrote: Is there any interest in allowing certain packages to be stabilized by the maintainer without going through the arch teams? I always feel guilty when i file stabilization bugs for app-doc pkgs. I think for bugs which

Re: [gentoo-dev] client/server consistency: USE flags / split packages

2009-11-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Peter Volkov wrote: Hi. How do we handle packages that provide client, server, and possibly extra tools/libraries? Do we split packages like binary distros do or do we use USE flags? What USE flags? Currently some packages are split other use client, server or minimal USE flag(s). Back in

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Richard Freeman wrote: Mart Raudsepp wrote: Is it stated in any documentation that 30 days is a policy? Not that I'm aware of - it is a guideline as you indicate. However, don't expect anybody to actually take action on a STABLEREQ if there isn't some kind of rationale for going stable

Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE3 deprecation news item. [ the GLEP 42 based variant ]

2009-10-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Please turn your KDE radio on, and make sure to turn the volume to its maximum level for this important message. When I am reading the news item I have already actively done it with eselect news so I think it should be better to just start with the actual content.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 14:46:31 Petteri Räty wrote: Normally old versions are not kept around as already said if you read the thread. normal is not the same thing as always. unless you're the maintainer, you have no idea whether old versions are kept

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: Several KDE3-only applications.

2009-10-28 Thread Petteri Räty
# Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (26 Oct 2009) # Doesn't work with new xfce-base/exo API, bug #289867. # Replaced by media-video/parole. # Masked for removal in 30 days. media-video/xfmedia This is not a KDE3-only application. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 02:07:02 Ryan Hill wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:48:39 +0200 Petteri Räty wrote: James Cloos wrote: When you first psoted this list I noticed some (or several?) live ebuilds. Git- is the one I remember. Those should not get nuked during

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-27 Thread Petteri Räty
James Cloos wrote: Petteri == Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org writes: Petteri Their maintainers should be active and switch their ebuilds to Petteri EAPI 2. If they don't have an active maintainer, then do we Petteri want to keep live ebuilds for them around? What possible benefit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 09:09:48 Petteri Räty wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 02:07:02 Ryan Hill wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:48:39 +0200 Petteri Räty wrote: James Cloos wrote: When you first psoted this list I noticed some (or several?) live

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-25 Thread Petteri Räty
James Cloos wrote: When you first psoted this list I noticed some (or several?) live ebuilds. Git- is the one I remember. Those should not get nuked during global cleanups, as they are likely to be in active use notwithstanding their keywording or masking. -JimC Their maintainers

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty wrote: I wrote a script to check which ebuilds use built_with_use and have keywords in never versions making the ebuild unused. This means that neither arch or ~arch users are likely to install the ebuild. The script and the list of ebuilds is attached. I plan on removing all

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME

2009-10-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: 2009/10/24 Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com: If you have any comments, suggestions, important notices regarding this change, please keep discussion in gentoo-desktop mailing list. What about people who like to install both gnome and kde on their systems? (Perhaps

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-10-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen wrote: On 18-10-2009 14:31:15 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: On 18-10-2009 13:57:10 +0200, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Hi, You know i am totaly supporting prefix but i have one point. Why on earth portage simply does not detect the prefix enviroment is being run and then INTERNALY

Re: [gentoo-dev] Amount of useflags enabled by default

2009-10-23 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Sachau wrote: In addition, i see a trend to enabled more more more USE flags (either over profiles or via IUSE +flag). Whats the reason for forcing a big load of default enabled USE flags on every user including more dependencies, more compile time, more wasted disk space and more

Re: [gentoo-dev] eapi files and profiles

2009-10-23 Thread Petteri Räty
Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Fri, 23 Oct 2009, Samuli Suominen wrote: So I was told Council needs to approve inheritance of eapi files from parent profiles? Doesn't http://bugs.gentoo.org/288320#c7 cover this? Why would you need explicit inheritance? Well technically you still shouldn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: News item for default-linux removal (bug #287976)

2009-10-21 Thread Petteri Räty
Samuli Suominen wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: For http://bugs.gentoo.org/287976, A news item: Would this work? Does this mean that you haven't tested it? If it's tested with the oldest Portage version that people are expected to be using, then fine by me. I don't think this bug comes to play

Re: [gentoo-dev] New ebuild metadata to mark how robust the package is?

2009-10-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Tobias Klausmann wrote: Come to think of it, how about an ewarn/einfo that is only triggered on fresh installs, but not on upgrades? You can still warn that foobard needs an etc-update and a restart, but I don't need to be reminded where the examples are every time. Ideally, one would be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving real multilib support into main tree portage with request for council decision

2009-10-11 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Sachau wrote: Hi together, as announced in a previous mail, i created a fork of portage, which has support to create 32bit libs during compile phase for 64bit platforms (currently amd64 tested, ppc64 untested). In short, it does execute every src_* phase twice with keeping a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Patrick Lauer wrote: And that's with all the forced migrations for features like use-deps or the removal of built_with_use. So unless there's some strongly needed features there's no need for it. I can't remember any feature in the EAPI 3 list that really looked useful to me, so not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Tomáš Chvátal wrote: On čtvrtek 08 Říjen 2009, 23:34:10 Petteri Räty wrote: Even this is wrong because: Hi ... betelge...@pena ~ $ portageq metadata / ebuild sys-libs/glibc-2.2.5-r10 IUSE nls For most packages old versions are not kept around so just doing =cat/foo-X.Y[use] is fine

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-news repository

2009-10-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Alex Alexander wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 14:07, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Crowded? I don't think so :) The number of news items is quite small, so I think we can afford having them all in the same folder I'm assuming devs will eventually pick this feature up and use it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: I wrote a script to check which ebuilds use built_with_use and have keywords in never versions making the ebuild unused. This means that neither arch or ~arch users are likely to install the ebuild. The script and the list of ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Stelian Ionescu wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 16:32 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: I wrote a script to check which ebuilds use built_with_use and have keywords in never versions making the ebuild unused. This means that neither arch or ~arch users are likely to install the ebuild. The script

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Jeremy Olexa wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: Stelian Ionescu wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 16:32 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: I wrote a script to check which ebuilds use built_with_use and have keywords in never versions making the ebuild unused

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Xorg 1.6/libxcb 1.4 stabilization news item

2009-10-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Rémi Cardona wrote: Le 02/10/2009 09:43, Ulrich Mueller a écrit : On Fri, 02 Oct 2009, Rémi Cardona wrote: We're pleased to announce the stabilization of xorg-server-1.6. Users are strongly encouraged to read the following two guides before upgrading: GLEP 42 says that you should wrap

[gentoo-dev] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-09-29 Thread Petteri Räty
I wrote a script to check which ebuilds use built_with_use and have keywords in never versions making the ebuild unused. This means that neither arch or ~arch users are likely to install the ebuild. The script and the list of ebuilds is attached. I plan on removing all these ebuilds two weeks from

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: jpeg upgrade news item

2009-09-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Josh Sled wrote: Display-If-Installed: media-libs/jpeg media-libs/jpeg-7, perhaps? Yes there should be such a restriction to avoid hitting people who have already upgraded. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: jpeg upgrade news item

2009-09-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Dawid Węgliński wrote: People may have upgraded but not have followed the advice in the news item. If they had upgraded, they also probably have it fixed already. So for everybody it's obvious how to fix it? If you argue like this, then you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: opengl-manpages, xorg-docs, xorg-sgml-doctools

2009-09-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Samuli Suominen wrote: Łukasz P. Michalik wrote: Oh, so there was a change in dependencies without a revbump? Package managers have always picked up dep. changes without revbump. -Samuli s/Package managers have/Portage has/ Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of Python 3.1

2009-09-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Alex Alexander wrote: *On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 23:21, Robert Bridge rob...@robbieab.com wrote: So the question isn't SHOULD python-3 be stabilised, it's what will break if it is surely? There seems to be a misunderstanding on what will happen if/when python 3 gets stabilized. The short

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI and system packages

2009-09-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Ryan Hill wrote: (Yes, this has EAPI in the title, so that means everyone will chime in) I'd like to clarify and (eventually) set in stone our ideas of best practices when it comes to bumping EAPI for system packages. I was of the belief that we had decided that system packages should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of Python 3.1

2009-09-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2009-09-20 16:44:09 Jesús Guerrero napisał(a): On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:09:38 +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 19:06, Alex Legler a...@gentoo.org wrote: What is the point of stabilizing it if users shouldn't use it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of Python 3.1

2009-09-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2009-09-19 20:20:10 AllenJB napisał(a): Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 19:06, Alex Legler a...@gentoo.org wrote: What is the point of stabilizing it if users shouldn't use it as main interpreter? Just leave it in ~arch until it can be

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Deprecation of Python 2.4

2009-08-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: Python 2.4 is deprecated. There are plans to mask for removal it when remaining packages incompatible with Python 2.5 are fixed. (We will announce masking of Python 2.4 at least 1 month before masking it.) Please don't add new packages to the tree

[gentoo-dev] Road towards EAPI 3 main tree approval

2009-08-30 Thread Petteri Räty
As many of you know EAPI 3 has been waiting for Portage to implement it for many months now and I asked zmedico for his estimate on whether it will be done this year: 19:50 Betelgeuse zmedico: Let's put it this way. How likely in percentages is EAPI 2 this year? 19:50 Betelgeuse s/2/3/ 19:51

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy

2009-08-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Samuli Suominenssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: I've just closed http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105016. But bugs like these shouldn't be around in the first place. When you remove a package from tree, please grep the profiles/

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Moving ssl from individual profile make.defaults to base

2009-07-31 Thread Petteri Räty
I run: find /usr/portage/profiles/ -name make.defaults -exec grep ssl {} + It seems quite a few profiles enable ssl. To me it seems makes sense to enable it by default in base instead. If any profiles want it off by default they can start disabling it. Any objections? Regards, Petteri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Qt3 deprecation

2009-07-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Ben de Groot wrote: Dear fellow devs, We would like to draw your attention to the fact that the Gentoo Qt team now officially discourages further usage of Qt3. Version 3 is no longer being developed or supported upstream. All users are strongly encouraged to use Qt version 4 where

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