Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New eclass osgi.eclass

2007-12-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Jean-Noël Rivasseau kirjoitti: The fact that I use the jar utility to unzip a file, combined with the fact that jar does not have an option to specify a destination directory, is troublesome. I have to copy the .jar file to the destination directory and then remove it. This .jar file can be

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] scm package version suffix

2007-12-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Portage versions prior to 2.1.2.12 (included in 2007.0) doesn't handle arbitrary version suffixes doesn't -- don't signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI placement

2007-12-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Doug Klima kirjoitti: Since it doesn't appear the question was answered by the last thread. I'm starting a new thread. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/52981/match=eapi I think it was answered. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] The return of the old fart: Mark Loeser (halcy0n)

2007-12-14 Thread Petteri Räty
I have an early Christmas present for all of you. Mark halcy0n Loeser is returning to waste all his time on Gentoo development. Perhaps now we will actually have someone to maintain devmanual. For those of you who don't know him, Mark lives in Freehold, NJ, USA. He loves to destroy the environment

[gentoo-dev] Adding pkg_preinst to java-utils-2 for QA purposes

2007-12-15 Thread Petteri Räty
I wrote a patch to add pkg_preinst to java-utils-2 to check the jars in the images for problems in the jars but it can later be used for other stuff too. If there are no objections we will need to modify the following ebuilds as not to change their behavior. I will do this in behalf of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: On 08:29 Thu 20 Dec , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:38:01 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's some other ideas for how to express EAPI. What if we: Used EAPI-named subdirectories instead of tagging it into the filename?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in rox-base/rox: ChangeLog rox-2.7-r2.ebuild

2007-12-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: Icky. chmod 0755 ${D}/usr/bin/${WRAPPERNAME} chmod 0755 ${D}/usr/bin/${WRAPPERNAME}uri fperms? make_desktop_entry ${WRAPPERNAME} ${APPNAME} ${APPNAME}.png System;Utility;Core;ROX Thought I saw something about desktop entries dropping the

[gentoo-dev] [GLEP 55] EAPI subdirectories instead of file name suffixes

2007-12-21 Thread Petteri Räty
Piotr Jaroszyński kirjoitti: This GLEP proposes usage of EAPI-suffixed file extensions for ebuilds (for example, foo-1.2.3.ebuild-1). It seems many people don't like the idea of having it in the filename but how about having subdirectories for different eapis. This should even be faster for the

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Packages up for grabs

2007-12-26 Thread Petteri Räty
Christian Heim kirjoitti: As usual you are free to pick them up, if you'd like to maintain them... - dev-java/scala-bin java herd takes this Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] has_version etc parallelisability

2007-12-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: Is it legal for ebuilds to call has_version and friends in parallel? Is it legal for ebuilds to call has_version and friends after the ebuild process has terminated? Discuss. Do you/anybody know if they are used in parallel in the tree at the moment? Regards,

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC available for testing.

2008-01-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Alon Bar-Lev kirjoitti: Publish to layman? Done. layman -a openrc after the web nodes have synced from CVS. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] has_version etc parallelisability

2008-01-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Luca Barbato kirjoitti: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 18:50:56 -0800 Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends on the implementation; for pkgcore, if that comm pipe is dead, the ebuild env *should* be dead, or dieing. Background'ing processes from that env isn't valid imo,

[gentoo-dev] RFC: length of the DESCRIPTION variable

2008-01-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Current devmanual suggest to not use line lengths over 80 characters. http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/file-format/index.html I wrote a repoman check that checks that the value doesn't go over 80. This is useful for tools like eix that show the DESCRIPTION. The thing is that lots of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Christian Faulhammer kirjoitti: Hi, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 00:35:41 +0100 Christian Faulhammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: URL:http://tinyurl.com/ypoxyg is a list of closed security bugs where mips is still cced. 163 is the total number, where surely some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:52:49 -0600 Martin Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's making the assumption that anyone looked at it, of course. Please note comment #9 on http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198346. It was still ~8 days from then that the setuptools

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reducing the size of the system package set

2008-01-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò kirjoitti: Here comes the official proposal, copy and paste from my blog with an extra post scriptum at the end. I already ranted about the fact that the dependency tree of our ebuilds is vastly incomplete, as many lack dependency on zlib; trying to get this fixed was

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reducing the size of the system package set

2008-01-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Stefan Hellermann kirjoitti: I've tried to not use the system-set and set up a virtual called virtual/minimal-system which depends on all the packages I need (no gcc or perl, only coreutils, glibc, baselayout and some packages that are really needed for booting up). This is what I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reducing the size of the system package set

2008-01-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti: On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 21:49 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: Stefan Hellermann kirjoitti: I've tried to not use the system-set and set up a virtual called virtual/minimal-system which depends on all the packages I need (no gcc or perl, only coreutils, glibc, baselayout

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status

2008-01-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Luca Barbato kirjoitti: Please project leaders try to reply in short. Recruiters About the stuff I'm involved: Are we fine? If Calchan agrees, we are fine. What are we going to do: Keep going as usual. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:59:29 -0800 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The issue that was raised is that certain arch teams are incapable of keeping up with the minimal workload they already have and what should be done about it. The issue was raised, with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status

2008-01-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Luca Barbato kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: - Get the remaining Generation 1 stuff out of the tree (not much left) - Start using virtuals more - Eclass cleanup and new make our setup even more automatic any plan/idea about icedtea? as a ppc user I'd love too see it in portage ^^; lu Well

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reducing the size of the system package set

2008-01-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: i'd argue pretty vehemently against removing openssh from any default official Gentoo install. ssh is defacto standard for loginning into any other machines. it should be on all Gentoo desktops/severs/etc... specialized/embedded/whatever are certainly free to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Projects and subproject status

2008-01-10 Thread Petteri Räty
William L. Thomson Jr. kirjoitti: No clue on ETA. I will take a peek/poke at it. I need to double check, but pretty sure icedtea might still need sun-jdk to build. Even if that is not the case, things like the plugin and other non-open aspects aren't available yet in icedtea. So there is still

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Projects and subproject status

2008-01-10 Thread Petteri Räty
William L. Thomson Jr. kirjoitti: gcj is not even official maintained by any Gentoo Devs atm. No where near close to being added to tree. Much less in the same overlay as openjdk. Not that it's in bad shape, but there is no syncing or collaboration there. But seems moot, as IcedTea should not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last Rites: sys-devel/distcc-config

2008-01-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Josh Saddler kirjoitti: Ryan Hill wrote: # Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] (10 Jan 2008) # Duplicates functionality already in sys-devel/distcc # Masked for removal (treecleaner) # Bug #192741 sys-devel/distcc-config Given that this is being removed, can you or someone in charge of distcc

Re: [gentoo-dev] lastrite media-libs/libdts

2008-01-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Peter Volkov kirjoitti: Also why not just do package move for libdts to avoid manual unmerge libdts? Package moves don't work very well if you move an existing package to another. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] lastrite media-libs/libdts

2008-01-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: On Sunday 13 January 2008, Petteri Räty wrote: Peter Volkov kirjoitti: Also why not just do package move for libdts to avoid manual unmerge libdts? Package moves don't work very well if you move an existing package to another. unless they had a block in place

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-misc/beagle (temporary?) maintainer wanted

2008-01-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Daniel Drake kirjoitti: Hi, I'm the current beagle maintainer but am struggling to find the time needed for the simple maintenance efforts required. Is anyone interested in taking over here? A prospective developer (bheekling) would be interested in maintaining this package in future, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] sqlite/sqlite3 useflag inconsistency

2008-01-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Benedikt Morbach kirjoitti: In my humble opinion it would be nice to have a greater degree of control by separating this into two useflags, sqlite2 and sqlite3, just like e.g. qt3 and qt4 Probably. Even better would be to get rid of sqlite2 but that probably doesn't happen any time soon.

Re: [gentoo-dev] lastrite media-libs/libdts

2008-01-16 Thread Petteri Räty
Peter Volkov kirjoitti: В Пнд, 14/01/2008 в 02:10 +0200, Petteri Räty пишет: Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: On Sunday 13 January 2008, Petteri Räty wrote: Peter Volkov kirjoitti: Also why not just do package move for libdts to avoid manual unmerge libdts? Package moves don't work very well

Re: [gentoo-dev] sqlite/sqlite3 useflag inconsistency

2008-01-16 Thread Petteri Räty
Alin Năstac kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: Benedikt Morbach kirjoitti: In my humble opinion it would be nice to have a greater degree of control by separating this into two useflags, sqlite2 and sqlite3, just like e.g. qt3 and qt4 Probably. Even better would be to get rid of sqlite2

Re: [gentoo-dev] sqlite/sqlite3 useflag inconsistency

2008-01-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Alin Năstac kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: Alin Năstac kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: Benedikt Morbach kirjoitti: In my humble opinion it would be nice to have a greater degree of control by separating this into two useflags, sqlite2 and sqlite3, just like e.g. qt3 and qt4 Probably. Even

[gentoo-dev] Ebuild quiz and staff quiz updated to reflect mailing list changes

2008-01-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Regards, Petteri [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/proj-en/devrel/quiz $ cvs diff Index: ebuild-quiz.txt === RCS file: /var/cvsroot/gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en/devrel/quiz/ebuild-quiz.txt,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -r1.8 ebuild-quiz.txt ---

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Upcoming Infra maintenance/downtimes: anon{cvs,svn,git}, archives, bouncer, overlays

2008-01-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Robin H. Johnson kirjoitti: On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 06:41:44PM +0100, Christian Faulhammer wrote: 2. Trac doesn't scale well enough, as users of the existing overlay machine have noted performance problems before. Being replaced with ViewVC and as yet undecided which Wiki application. Am I

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-java/jsx

2008-01-19 Thread Petteri Räty
+# Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] (19 Jan 2008) +# Commercial application for which the devs don't have +# licenses. Lagging behind in versions. If you want to +# see this maintained contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for paying +# us a license. Otherwise in junkyard after 30 days. +dev-java/jsx

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: java-ant-2.eclass

2008-01-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: On 21:57 Tue 22 Jan , Petteri Raty (betelgeuse) wrote: Revision ChangesPath 1.26 eclass/java-ant-2.eclass file : http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/eclass/java-ant-2.eclass?rev=1.26view=markup plain:

Re: [gentoo-dev] detecting if a file is used or not

2008-01-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Alin Năstac kirjoitti: How could I detect in a init script if a socket file is used or not? I need to be sure I can delete it before starting the service. I would hate to add sys-process/psmisc to RDEPEND just for this (fuser seems to be the only way of doing that). [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of digest files from the tree

2008-01-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen kirjoitti: On 26-01-2008 17:35:37 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: Related to the top level of the tree, can we get a release of repoman that detects if a checkout is a subset only (eg no top level), for folk that have subtree checkouts only? (Probably look for skel.*/profile items

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of digest files from the tree

2008-01-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Robin H. Johnson kirjoitti: On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 04:06:47PM +0200, Petteri R??ty wrote: Fabian Groffen kirjoitti: On 26-01-2008 17:35:37 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: Related to the top level of the tree, can we get a release of repoman that detects if a checkout is a subset only (eg no

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Yuri Vasilevski kirjoitti: On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:23:18 -0500 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now that the mktemp binary has been moved out of debianutils and integrated straight into coreutils, perhaps it's time to ask how important this package is to everyone. current debianutils is

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Krzysiek Pawlik kirjoitti: Yuri Vasilevski wrote: I would say drop it from system and add to RDEPEND in kernel-2.eclass for ${ETYPE} == sources. IMHO that's a bad idea - everybody use some kernel sources, but not everybody runs `make install'. I'm for dropping debianutils from system.

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:59:39 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BSD, prefix etc. I would say breaking make install is worse than requiring people to keep debianutils installed. They can just use package.provided if they want to get rid of it. ...which

Re: [gentoo-dev] looking for a mentor

2008-01-31 Thread Petteri Räty
Iain Buchanan kirjoitti: jsin is a bit busy (and not at 6 months yet) so he can't mentor me, although he still offers help as time permits. I would therefore like to see if anyone wants to volunteer their mentoring prowess to get me to developer status :) I presume no-one has yet contacted

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changes to some profiles

2008-02-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti: base/packages: removed debianutils I don't think we reached a decision on whether debianutils should go to kernel-2.eclass before this is done. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Adding two USE flags to 2008.0's profiles

2008-02-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti: Understandable, bluetooth isn't the most mature thing in Linux. It tends to either work or it doesn't. Actually bluetooth support is in quite a good shape. The thing was there was a urgent need to get bluez-utils-3* stable for which I need some doc updates etc

Re: [gentoo-dev] I want to steal your tools

2008-02-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Alec Warner kirjoitti: So it seems to me that we have tons of tools out there that people have writtten and we need to aggregrate and document them. https://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/java/scripts signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: VDB access

2008-02-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: Incidentally, if anyone is still thinking that built_with_use is fine... It doesn't handle IUSE defaults, which means package managers have to store a hacked version of IUSE in VDB for EAPI 1. This isn't documented anywhere and is highly unobvious. I don't

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: www-servers/orion

2008-02-07 Thread Petteri Räty
+# Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] (08 Feb 2008) +# Masked for removal to java junkyard in 30 days. +# Proprietary software that is not used by anyone +# in the java herd. Unmigrated to generation 2. +# Lagging behind in versions. If you have a need for +# this, please contact the java herd

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding available as a mentor bit to LDAP

2008-02-11 Thread Petteri Räty
Often we have someone wanting to become a dev and we need a to find a mentor for him. What do you think about adding a status bit to LDAP that would mark you as available for mentoring? Recruiters could then use this info to forward people to these developers. Regards, Petteri

[gentoo-dev] RFC: adding support for running eautoconf to base.eclass

2008-02-12 Thread Petteri Räty
What do you think about adding support to base.eclass for running eautoreconf? so instead of src_unpack() { unpack ${A} cd ${A} eautoreconf } would just add EAUTORECONF=yes inherit base Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: adding support for running eautoconf to base.eclass

2008-02-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen kirjoitti: On 13-02-2008 08:50:19 +0100, Rémi Cardona wrote: Petteri Räty a écrit : What do you think about adding support to base.eclass for running eautoreconf? In most of the ebuilds where we need to run eautoreconf, we usually apply patches. I can't remember of an ebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: adding support for running eautoconf to base.eclass

2008-02-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen kirjoitti: I think it should not be added as it hides something quite important. - it takes a lot of time on most platforms I run - it may break (especially during bootstrapping, eautoreconfs are hell) - it may introduce extra deps/caution (e.g. gettext macros being available) So

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: adding support for running eautoconf to base.eclass

2008-02-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Alec Warner kirjoitti: The former is much clearer...I don't see the gain... also in the former example you neglected to inherit autotools ;) That would happen conditionally in base.eclass Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: adding support for running eautoconf to base.eclass

2008-02-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Matthias Schwarzott kirjoitti: How can I use PATCHESwithout quoting issues? Attached is a patch that fixes this. Regards, Petteri Index: base.eclass === RCS file: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/eclass/base.eclass,v retrieving

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: adding support for running eautoconf to base.eclass

2008-02-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Samuli Suominen kirjoitti: And if you can't run eautoreconf but instead one of specific commands, eautoconf, eautomake.. Or what if you need to run AT_M4DIR=/path/to/macros eautoreconf? Or when you are about to remove eautoreconf, spot that fbsd is keyworded and need to substitute it with

Re: [gentoo-dev] clean deprecated eclasses(?)

2008-02-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Peter Volkov kirjoitti: May be we should punt them from the tree? Eclasses can't be removed... Maybe we should have a deprecated eclass for showing a common messaged that certain eclasses should not be used. Then deprecated eclasses could be detected by looking if they inherit deprecated.

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Ben de Groot (yngwin)

2008-02-16 Thread Petteri Räty
Another slacker to join the ranks. Took 8 months for him to get the quizes done and reviewed but finally there. He will be working on multimedia ebuilds. Ben hails from Arnemuiden, NL. He should be a familiar nick for many from our IRC channels. As a tip to all of our female readers out there,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Deprecating an eclass

2008-02-18 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:19:55 -0500 Doug Klima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, that depends upon whether you want it to be part of the C/P-V metadata... If you do, it's a cache format change (and you can't easily do DEPRECATED_*). But then, deprecation is a property of

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Bo Ørsted Andresen (zlin)

2008-02-28 Thread Petteri Räty
He has been breaking the tree for a while now but as Calchan has been having availability problems I get to insult him a little bit later than usual. Bo hails from Aalborg, Denmark. He studies to become a control engineer. On the Gentoo side he is one of the people who enabled KDE4 coming to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Please elaborate on how a full.fledged developer would differ from a package maintainer technically. What requirements and/or priviledges do you think could be reduced? Marius Perhaps there could be some honor code system at least, where the package maintainer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Arch Testers don't have tree access. This proposal gives the package maintainer the ability to commit their changes. How would you ensure ebuild quality for these package maintainers? Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: On Wednesday 05 March 2008 16:05:09 Petteri Räty wrote: Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Arch Testers don't have tree access. This proposal gives the package maintainer the ability to commit their changes. How would you ensure ebuild quality for these package maintainers

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Jeroen Roovers kirjoitti: On 01 Mar 2008 05:30:01 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Ricardo Mendoza (ricmm)

2008-03-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Hailing from the Venezuela, more precisely Caracas, we have Ricardo ricmm Mendoza. When he's not fighting in the jungles, he likes to play around with those expensive paper weights that some people call mips computers. Luckily for him he will be soon moving to the comfort of Europe. Now it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Markus Ullmann kirjoitti: So giving both (devs and users) an automated way of working with that would help a lot IMHO. like the user submits using echangelog My cool change repoman submit then the dev gets a diff or whatever against current state and then just does repoman accept or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Ulrich Mueller kirjoitti: Isn't what you wrote the existing policy? If it is, then the last question of the end-quiz should be changed: | 19. You are bumping foomatic's ebuild from version 1.5 to version | 2.0. This new version is a massive rewrite which introduces | huge changes to

[gentoo-dev] New keyword monkey: Kenneth Prug (ken69267)

2008-03-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Joining us from the zoos of Florida, we have Kenneth keninsert random numbers here Prugh. Ken did such a fine job testing all those random packages for amd64 that it will be the sole purpose of his life from now on. He tells me his hobby is to learn new programming languages so I guess he

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Tobias Klausmann (klausman)

2008-03-10 Thread Petteri Räty
One of those people working on those weird paper weights. This time our monkey comes from the world of alphas. Tobias hails from Germany (there seems to be no end). He works as a sysadmin so perhaps he will some idea about stability. He is the author of pymetar and carl (emerge and try).

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Tobias Klausmann (klausman)

2008-03-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty kirjoitti: One of those people working on those weird paper weights. This time our monkey comes from the world of alphas. Tobias hails from Germany (there seems to be no end). He works as a sysadmin so perhaps he will some idea about stability. He is the author of pymetar and carl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Natanael Copa kirjoitti: On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 00:35 +0100, Fabio Erculiani wrote: I offer my help to fix DEPEND/RDEPEND split issues which is causing me a lot of headaches (along with localizations). For reference, please have a look here: http://planet.sabayonlinux.org/?p=105 I'm another

Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabio Erculiani kirjoitti: [02:31] Halcy0n lxnay: we offer all of our work that you base your distribution off, and you don't contribute back at all, in any way. ^^ This is a really stupid sentence. It seems some of you don't even realize how many users we brought to Gentoo, and this is really

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-13 Thread Petteri Räty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: Well I'm a newcomer to Gentoo and never heard of Sabayon (great project btw). Knowing no one here or there, nor any history: Never heard of and you say it's a great project? This conversation reminds me of Human Resources. They always have 'procedures' and

[gentoo-dev] FYI clarifications to skel.ebuild EAPI usage

2008-03-13 Thread Petteri Räty
solar reported that he had ebuild submissions blindly using EAPI=1 so we hopefully made the text better reflect that it should not be used unless absolutely needed. Regards, Petteri [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/portage $ cvs diff -r 1.44 skel.ebuild Index: skel.ebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-14 Thread Petteri Räty
David Leverton kirjoitti: On Friday 14 March 2008 07:14:23 Rémi Cardona wrote: - the gnome2 eclass now has a pkg_preinst, if you do multiple inherits, make sure that gnome2_pkg_preinst is called too. The _games_eclass_ is one of those. Maybe worth adding a dummy to the current version of

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Rémi Cardona kirjoitti: This is where I kindly request the help of fellow Gentoo devs and PM developers : - the gnome2 eclass now has a pkg_preinst, if you do multiple inherits, make sure that gnome2_pkg_preinst is called too. The _games_eclass_ is one of those. I only found two ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-14 Thread Petteri Räty
David Leverton kirjoitti: On Friday 14 March 2008 12:14:39 Petteri Räty wrote: David Leverton kirjoitti: Maybe worth adding a dummy to the current version of the eclass so that ebuilds can be updated now, instead of suddenly all at once as soon as the new eclass is committed? And break

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Rémi Cardona kirjoitti: Now, basically, if the portage metadata or QA people could tell me a way to figure *all* the ebuilds that inherit gnome2 *and* have a pkg_preinst() function somewhere (either in the ebuild or in an eclass somewhere) I'd really appreciate it, as I really don't want to

Re: [gentoo-dev] bzr.eclass into Portage

2008-03-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Christian Faulhammer kirjoitti: Hi, in the Emacs overlay we imported the bzr.eclass from the xeffects overlay. In the near future Emacs development will switch from CVS to Bazaar and thus we need the new eclass in Portage to still provide our live ebuilds from app-editors/emacs-cvs. Question

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-18 Thread Petteri Räty
Rémi Cardona kirjoitti: Petteri Räty a écrit : http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_a57bf5f459324975bae8843fe7cdf469.xml Sorry I didn't respond to you Petteri, but this is clearly missing packages. For sure, it's missing gnome-games which inherits both the gnome2 and the games

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: RFC: New build types

2008-03-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Steve Long kirjoitti: I don't see how it would wreak more havoc than a novice using, eg ANT from Java which s/he is comfortable with, and then further having to learn BASH peculiarities when things don't fit with the eclass. But yeah, the fun is what attracts me to the idea more than anything.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-apps/iproute2: ChangeLog iproute2-2.6.24.20080108.ebuild

2008-03-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:18:44 -0400 Mark Loeser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it is something we want to move forward with, it should be introduced at the package manager level instead of being an in-tree package manager specific feature. cat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Auty kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: Defining required amount of activity for ebuild devs. I would like us to raise the required amount of activity for ebuild devs. Given that the low number of developers is ranked as our number one problem in Donnie's informal survey[1], taking any kind

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Wulf C. Krueger kirjoitti: On Wednesday, 02. April 2008 22:46:16 Petteri Räty wrote: How does having the average time between commits be at most a week sound and if it goes under that, undertakers will get a notification? It sounds like you're trying to get rid of someone. I don't have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Auty kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: If you can't manage weekly commits, you can't respond to security issues either. I can see your point, I was more thinking about developers who have maybe one or two small packages that don't have many version bumps or bugs. They may be entirely

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: I agree with the above point. Also, as I recall, both Pettery (betelgeuse) and Denis (calchan) have stated before that we no longer have any queue of people waiting on recruiters to join Gentoo. I'm not seeing an avalanche of new blood

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen kirjoitti: On 02-04-2008 21:21:25 -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: Would it make more sense to just make a policy that failure to maintain packages that you're maintainer on will result in getting removed as the maintainer, with said packages going up for grabs? Devs who keep

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:35:20 + Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, but with some acls we could also have a different model where people worked on parts of the tree and where commit privileges didn't pose so many security risks. With the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Chrissy Fullam kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty kirjoitti: I checked the current slacker script and it checks for having at least one commit in last 60 days. We could of course just change the slacker script to list the activity for everyone during the last 60 days and leave the interpretation to undertakers. Regards

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Pagano kirjoitti: On Monday 07 April 2008 04:37:18 pm Petteri Räty wrote: Petteri Räty kirjoitti: So I wrote a new slacker script that gets the active developers from LDAP and checks the activity for the last 60 days. One repoman commit should equal a couple entries on history

Re: [gentoo-dev] escaping variables in sed expressions

2008-04-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) kirjoitti: Hi list, it seems I have been using some fragile sed expression and I'd like to tap the collective wisdom for avoiding doing that in the future. dev-scheme/slib-3.1.5-r1 currently does sed s_prefix = /usr/local/_prefix = ${D}/usr/_ -i Makefile to make it

Re: [gentoo-dev] What are blocks used for?

2008-04-16 Thread Petteri Räty
Mateusz A. Mierzwin'ski kirjoitti: Richard Freeman pisze: Mateusz A. Mierzwin'ski wrote: And I strongly suggest to leave old mechanism of portage, because we saw couple times what _GREAT_ automatic makes with distro - eg. Mandriva with all creators and cheap installer - couple apps not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing .la files...

2008-04-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Luca Barbato kirjoitti: Alistair Bush wrote: ++. I actually have no problem with agreeing with it, currently my problem is the complete and utter lack of any _planned_ upgrade path. What do we think users are going to be saying at the end of the year when after every sync they have to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Removing .la files...

2008-04-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò kirjoitti: Probably the best thing would be to get a better tool than revdep-rebuild to handle broken .la files, as revdep-rebuild forces a timewasting rebuild, while a good fix could be just a sed -i -e 's:/usr/lib\(64\)\?/lib\(.*\).la:-l\2:' on all the .la files,

Re: [gentoo-dev] DevRel policy update

2008-04-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Wulf C. Krueger kirjoitti: How to gain power the easy way and obsolete conflict resolution in just one commit: http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en/devrel/policy.xml?r1=1.18r2=1.19 Please use the appropriate mailing list. Nothing technical here. This thread

OT: [gentoo-dev] Nazi symbols on Gentoo (and other offending content)

2008-04-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Santiago M. Mola kirjoitti: Thoughts? Isn't there anyone else willing to keep Nazi symbols outside forums? If yes, at the expense of punting all politics or just as a special case? Again this is the wrong mailing list. I don't see this thread having any technical content. Regards, Petteri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-util/lincvs

2008-05-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Pagano kirjoitti: Mike Pagano [EMAIL PROTECTED] (19 May 2008) Masked for removal in 30 days. Upstream has changed name to crossvc, which is available in the tree. (bug #213496) --- Mike Pagano Gentoo Developer - Kernel Project E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Josh Saddler kirjoitti: Łukasz Damentko wrote: Hi guys, Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009 are open now and will be open for the next two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2008). Now that nominations are officially open, I nominate the current council members (again): amne

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP56] USE flag descriptions in metadata

2008-06-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Doug Goldstein kirjoitti: All, Here's a GLEP for the addition of USE flag descriptions to package metadata. It does not address any future ideas that others may have had or suggested. It merely gives developers the necessary tools to document their USE flag usage it better detail on a per

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