Re: [gentoo-dev] proposal: use only one hash function in manifest files

2022-04-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
sread the source code, which is > possible, so if somebody knows this code well and I'm wrong here, > please do speak up. Not to go off-topic, but where in Portage's source is this logic at? It seems like an easy fix for a slightly more efficient Portage. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gento

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Changing the VDB format

2022-04-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 4/11/2022 15:20, Sid Spry wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022, at 3:02 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >> I think json is the best format for storing the data on-disk. It's intended >> to be a data serialization format to convert data from a non-specific memory >> format t

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Changing the VDB format

2022-04-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
bs/glibc-2.35-r2 > glibc.json # ls -lh --block-size=1 glibc.json -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 352479 Apr 11 14:53 glibc.json # zstd glibc.json glibc.json : 21.70% ( 344 KiB => 74.7 KiB, glibc.json.zst) # ls -lh --block-size=1 glibc.json.zst -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 76498 Apr 11 14:53

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman

2022-03-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/11/2022 20:57, Sam James wrote: > > >> On 10 Mar 2022, at 23:18, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >> On 3/10/2022 14:58, Alec Warner wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:27 AM Joshua Kinard wrote: >>>> >>>> On 3/9/2022 16:00, Matt Turner

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman

2022-03-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/11/2022 20:54, Sam James wrote: > > >> On 11 Mar 2022, at 19:39, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >> On 3/11/2022 03:54, Mart Raudsepp wrote:> Ühel kenal päeval, N, 10.03.2022 >> kell 18:18, kirjutas Joshua Kinard: >>>> I stick to the officiall

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman

2022-03-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
ws. Going back into git post-commit to fix things is still something I need to learn more about, as my git-fu is still pretty amateurish beyond the common basics. Especially when dealing with kernel patch maintenance and maintaining lots of small, discrete changes that kernel upstream prefers. -- Joshu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman

2022-03-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/11/2022 03:54, Mart Raudsepp wrote:> Ühel kenal päeval, N, 10.03.2022 kell 18:18, kirjutas Joshua Kinard: >> I stick to the officially-published method of checking and committing >> changes: >> https://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-maintenance/git/index.html >> &

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman

2022-03-10 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/10/2022 14:58, Alec Warner wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:27 AM Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >> On 3/9/2022 16:00, Matt Turner wrote: >>> I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove repoman. I believe that >>> dev-util/pkgcheck and pkgcommit (from app-portag

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman

2022-03-10 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/10/2022 14:59, Alec Warner wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:28 AM Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >> On 3/9/2022 16:47, Matt Turner wrote: >>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 1:37 PM Matthias Maier wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Just a quick though:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman

2022-03-10 Thread Joshua Kinard
has and attempt to fix them? That said, I'm not terribly bothered by it. It is slow, don't get me wrong, but it's not slow enough that my workflow is significantly impacted. It catches most of the mistakes I've ever made before I make them so that I can fix them. For me, that's job well done. -- Joshu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman

2022-03-10 Thread Joshua Kinard
? If so, please say so and identify which one(s). My opinion is that any tool that replaces repoman should, at a minimum, replace like functionality with like functionality, plus benefits or enhancements. This looks more like a step backwards, not a step forwards. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman

2022-03-10 Thread Joshua Kinard
every time I commit a change. They give the RepoMan personality and a soul, and thus, contribute to the uniqueness that is Gentoo. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present c

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/30] One batch of Python eclass updates to rule them all

2022-02-09 Thread Joshua Kinard
a musl stage would solve the problem highlighted by tools blindly trying to call 'locale' and logging that it doesn't exist. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present conf

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] making rust-bin ordered first in virtual/rust

2022-01-21 Thread Joshua Kinard
version of the binpkg. For all other cases, it's fairly straight forward to build a few packages yourself via Ports with your own USES selections. E.g., I don't need python support in bind-tools, so I build that one on my appliances myself to reduce the required dependencies that need to be installed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2021-12-18 Thread Joshua Kinard
out of having an idea and wanting to contribute it to the other ideas submitted. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our l

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2021-12-17 Thread Joshua Kinard
d to things like sound, video, and graphics (the digital kind), and less about print media. sys-print implies the system-level connections that a printer has, and would be a good fit for all of the printer driver packages, but not as good a fit for things like net-print/poster. Also, the HOME

[gentoo-dev] sys-fs/udev-249.6-r1: warning that split-usr mode will be removed?

2021-12-06 Thread Joshua Kinard
figured I'd inquire. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, ter

[gentoo-dev] Re: You currently cannot smoothly upgrade a 4 months old Gentoo system

2021-11-03 Thread Joshua Kinard
for being playful and colorful on the command line with our tooling, so I would wonder if that depgraph output couldn't be made to looknicer? -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past t

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 0/1] Add 'notes' element to metadata.xml (GLEP 68)

2021-10-05 Thread Joshua Kinard
> glep-0068.rst | 26 +++--- Or perhaps we could use RST formatting like the GLEP source there to keep the plain text form readable, but also support visual rendering into HTML if needed? >> 1 file changed, 23 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) >> &

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Portage einfo, elog... output format change

2021-10-01 Thread Joshua Kinard
e those too at some > point? > > Final question, am I understanding correctly that normal lines are not > prefixed with something? Would it be, for consistency, alignment, and > certainty of selecting rows something to use a prefix for those lines > too (assuming they aren't at this poin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Guidance on distributed patented software

2021-09-25 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 9/24/2021 03:55, Hanno Böck wrote: > On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 03:46:51 -0400 > Joshua Kinard wrote: > >> If I remember this weekend, I'll e-mail the libtomcrypt author and >> see if they have any insight. One would hope they did their own >> research before possibl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Guidance on distributed patented software

2021-09-24 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 9/23/2021 12:10, Alec Warner wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 10:54 PM Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >> On 9/22/2021 12:37, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 08:54:40AM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>>> Is there any advice on how this impa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Guidance on distributed patented software

2021-09-22 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 9/22/2021 12:37, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 08:54:40AM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> Is there any advice on how this impacts net-misc/dropbear? That has ECC >> (both ECDSA and Ed25519) support, and I use it for SGI/MIPS netboot images. >> The b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Guidance on distributed patented software

2021-09-22 Thread Joshua Kinard
second or two, whereas RSA can take up to 10-15 seconds. So I'd like to be able to use ECC on these platforms and distribute netboot images using them. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "T

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-23 Thread Joshua Kinard
efined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?" https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/c20d9ada8e05dc1707f021ff01d28802 Seems like the sane option is to just drop the INSTALL_MASK and deal with a gaggle of systemd unit files eating up some inode space. I obviously took umbrage once upon a time,

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-22 Thread Joshua Kinard
ng to transfer eudev to another umbrella organisation or Linux s/organisation/organization/ > distribution that is willing to continue its maintenance, but > maintaining eudev cannot be done purely through proxy-maintaining and > requires an understanding of its internals. This is a steep l

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item for uClibc-ng deprecation

2021-08-17 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 8/17/2021 13:49, Sam James wrote: > > >> On 17 Aug 2021, at 16:19, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> [snip] >> >> According to the uClibc-ng website, 1.0.38 was released earlier this year >> (March 27th). Was an announcement put out somewhere about the project

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item for uClibc-ng deprecation

2021-08-17 Thread Joshua Kinard
ootstrap a new environment from scratch at some point, but just haven't gotten around to it. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future fright

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-dialup/xc

2021-08-09 Thread Joshua Kinard
# Joshua Kinard (2021-08-09) # Dead upstream and has build issues in modern times. # See bugs #551786 and #715846. Removal in 30 days. net-dialup/xc

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new category for container related packages, instead of app-emulation

2021-08-06 Thread Joshua Kinard
ginal design of Portage. That said, other distros also use categories for their packaging systems, they're just less apparent. Run aptitude in Debian for a curses-based interface to the apt system and you can browse their multi-level package organizationwhich can be quite the rabbit hol

Re: [gentoo-dev] About the 'eapi' file in profile directories

2021-08-01 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 8/1/2021 08:19, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, P, 01.08.2021 kell 00:58, kirjutas Joshua Kinard: >> numeric value of the supported EAPI > > EAPI isn't a numeric value, it is a string (section 3.1.8) - it just > happens that Gentoo official ones are logically

Re: [gentoo-dev] About the 'eapi' file in profile directories

2021-08-01 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 8/1/2021 08:19, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, P, 01.08.2021 kell 00:58, kirjutas Joshua Kinard: >> numeric value of the supported EAPI > > EAPI isn't a numeric value, it is a string (section 3.1.8) - it just > happens that Gentoo official ones are logically

Re: [gentoo-dev] About the 'eapi' file in profile directories

2021-07-31 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 7/31/2021 22:02, Sam James wrote: > > >> On 1 Aug 2021, at 00:23, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >>> [snip] >> >> Yeah, I found one mention in the Wiki[1], but not under "Profiles" in the >> devmanual[2]. The Wiki description doesn't say

Re: [gentoo-dev] About the 'eapi' file in profile directories

2021-07-31 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 7/31/2021 18:47, Sam James wrote: > > >> On 31 Jul 2021, at 23:42, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >> >> I can't find much documentation on the 'eapi' file found in many of the >> profile directories. Several of the ones in >> profiles/arch/{amd64,s

[gentoo-dev] About the 'eapi' file in profile directories

2021-07-31 Thread Joshua Kinard
. Thoughts? -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-be

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] Add deblob support only for python3

2021-07-26 Thread Joshua Kinard
nux kernel >=5.10" Is used instead? Also, the die message text can drop the triple exclamation marks. One exclamation mark is enough. And someone correct me if wrong, as I am reading this thread late, but deblobbing is disabled by setting K_DEBLOB_AVAILABLE=0 in a kernel-2 inheritor ebui

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Removing SHA512 hash from Manifests

2021-07-24 Thread Joshua Kinard
irly new (Jan 2020). A quick read indicates it merges a number of the BLAKE2 variants together and is faster in some areas of execution. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Copyright lines in the profiles directory

2021-06-21 Thread Joshua Kinard
Copyright 1999-2013 Gentoo Foundation TZ=UTC git log --find-renames --find-copies --follow --pretty="format:%ad" --date="format-local:%Y" profiles/arch/mips/mips64/multilib/n64/use.force | tail -n1 2011 -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015

Re: [gentoo-dev] Copyright lines in the profiles directory

2021-06-20 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 6/21/2021 01:36, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 21 Jun 2021, Joshua Kinard wrote: > >> Doing some review/cleanups in the MIPS profiles and there's some >> degree of variability going on with the top copyright header, mainly >> in the beginning y

[gentoo-dev] Copyright lines in the profiles directory

2021-06-20 Thread Joshua Kinard
14 Gentoo Foundation -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terribl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grabs: sys-boot/lilo

2021-06-04 Thread Joshua Kinard
t mind if someone could port FreeBSD's bootloader to Linux... However, I am very time-limited, so I will defer to Hank or Peter if they wish to tackle any open bugs and I'll serve as final reviewer, tester, and committer. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-2

Re: [gentoo-dev] timezone configuration - why copying, not symlinking /etc/localtime ?

2021-03-28 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/28/2021 05:25, James Le Cuirot wrote:> On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 18:40:52 -0400 Joshua Kinard > wrote: > >> On 3/27/2021 18:16, James Le Cuirot wrote: >>> On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 17:43:34 -0400 Joshua Kinard >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I kinda wish the Li

Re: [gentoo-dev] timezone configuration - why copying, not symlinking /etc/localtime ?

2021-03-28 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/28/2021 16:05, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 10:51:11PM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 3/27/2021 20:32, William Hubbs wrote: >>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 05:43:34PM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>>> On 3/23/2021 07:31, Rich Freeman wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] timezone configuration - why copying, not symlinking /etc/localtime ?

2021-03-27 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/27/2021 20:32, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 05:43:34PM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 3/23/2021 07:31, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 6:54 PM Andreas K. Huettel >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Council deci

Re: [gentoo-dev] timezone configuration - why copying, not symlinking /etc/localtime ?

2021-03-27 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/27/2021 21:00, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 5:43 PM Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >> I kinda wish the Linux kernel had an ability to partially boot, init the >> networking subsystem, then fetch an initramfs image over TFTP like it can do >> with

Re: [gentoo-dev] timezone configuration - why copying, not symlinking /etc/localtime ?

2021-03-27 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/27/2021 18:16, James Le Cuirot wrote: > On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 17:43:34 -0400 > Joshua Kinard wrote: > >> I kinda wish the Linux kernel had an ability to partially boot, init the >> networking subsystem, then fetch an initramfs image over TFTP like it can do >> with

Re: [gentoo-dev] timezone configuration - why copying, not symlinking /etc/localtime ?

2021-03-27 Thread Joshua Kinard
unless I have over looked something. Otherwise in the future, I may just have to setup an initramfs into an NFS Root and teach the SGI's to somehow deal with it. Which all still seems unnecessarily complicated because some other distro thinks it knows what's best for everyone else (but I digres

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [Python-Dev] Move support of legacy platforms/architectures outside Python

2021-02-21 Thread Joshua Kinard
iku. That project is coming along rather nicely. >> >> -- >> >> There is also a "Stable Buildbot" category used by the "Release >> Status" web page: >> https://buildbot.python.org/all/#/release_status >> >> There is no clear rule why

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dealing with global /usr/bin/libtool use vs CC/CXX etc.

2021-01-10 Thread Joshua Kinard
I'm not sure if this executable isn't required for some obscure > reason anyway. Second option seems better, and basically just enforces what's been a standard habit anyways (I at least try to manually rebuild libtool when changing gcc major versions, but not so much for minor versions).

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last-rites: sys-power/pm-utils, sys-power/pm-quirks, app-admin/cgmanager and sys-libs/libnih

2021-01-09 Thread Joshua Kinard
te --> s2disk pm-suspend-hybrid --> s2both -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip away, mom

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: dropping support for uclibc-ng

2021-01-05 Thread Joshua Kinard
for MIPS/o32. musl quite literally >> JustWorks(). It's great. Even with that tiny bit of bloat in the netboot >> build (workable, cause I needed to make NFS Root an option anyways). > >> So long story short, I won't shed any tears if uclibc-ng goes away. > >> Jos

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: dropping support for uclibc-ng

2021-01-05 Thread Joshua Kinard
hich breaks emerge. Never figured it out. I can trace the failure using GDB to a point in Python, but not much farther beyond that. I assume the true cause is something in uclibc-ng itself. Upstream seems to like to borrow chunks of glibc for things, and I wonder if that may be partly to blame.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pushing to distfiles?

2020-11-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 11/11/2020 19:38, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 7:23 PM Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >> Forgive me for being a dunce, but what is the current procedure to push >> files to distfiles for distribution to the mirrors? The devmanual is blank >> on this t

[gentoo-dev] Pushing to distfiles?

2020-11-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
that details how to get new distfiles onto the mirrors. Thanks, -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-10 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 8/10/2020 22:08, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 9:55 PM Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >> On 8/10/2020 11:22, William Hubbs wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 12:00:44AM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>>> >>>> If eudev is not broken, th

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-10 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 8/10/2020 11:22, William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 12:00:44AM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 8/8/2020 14:51, William Hubbs wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> I would like to propose that we switch the default udev provider o

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-09 Thread Joshua Kinard
some verifiable reason why eudev is no longer suitable to be the default udev provider. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us.

[gentoo-dev] Bug #733802, USE 'scp' now defaults to off in net-misc/openssh

2020-07-25 Thread Joshua Kinard
So I stumbled into Bug #733802, which now defaults the 'scp' USE flag to off in net-misc/openssh. This seems like something that needs a news entry, or at least a "heads up" on the mailing list? Potential for some scripts to break if scp suddenly goes missing after an openssh update.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning up the installation handbook (Legacy boot / MBR / ...)

2020-05-03 Thread Joshua Kinard
o its own section below the more modern approach, with appropriate disclaimers that it is legacy. But odds are likely, it will need to be retained for quite a few more years. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-fs/ncpfs, net-misc/ipx-utils

2020-03-28 Thread Joshua Kinard
# Joshua Kinard (2020-03-28) # In Linux ~4.18, IPX (Internetwork Packet eXchange) protocol and # NCPFS (NetWare Core Protocol Filesystem) support was removed due # to lack of maintenance. Due to both being dead from a technology # standpoint and lack of any upstream activity, mask the below

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] flag-o-matic.eclass: add some missing MIPS CPU errata options to ALLOWED_FLAGS

2020-03-28 Thread Joshua Kinard
, and the -mr10k-cache-barrier to control the generation of cache barriers to work around the side-effects of R1's speculative execution capabilities. Signed-off-by: Joshua Kinard --- eclass/flag-o-matic.eclass | 4 +++- 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/eclass/flag-o

Re: [gentoo-dev] musl doesn't provide execinfo.h

2020-03-26 Thread Joshua Kinard
5 from the lead musl developer: https://www.openwall.com/lists/musl/2015/04/09/3 -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our l

Re: [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade

2020-01-13 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 1/13/2020 01:52, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 2020-01-12 at 17:07 -0500, Joshua Kinard wrote: [snip] > Joshua, > > I understand that you don't do much Python ebuild work, or probably > Python development in general. I understand that you may feel like you > need more

Re: [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade

2020-01-12 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 1/12/2020 19:21, William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:17:36AM +0100, David Seifert wrote: >> On Sun, 2020-01-12 at 17:55 -0500, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>> On 1/12/2020 17:46, David Seifert wrote: >>>> On Sun, 2020-01-12 at 17:43 -0500, Joshua Kinard w

Re: [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade

2020-01-12 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 1/12/2020 17:46, David Seifert wrote: > On Sun, 2020-01-12 at 17:43 -0500, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 1/12/2020 17:32, Andreas Sturmlechner wrote: >>> On Sonntag, 12. Januar 2020 23:07:24 CET Joshua Kinard wrote: >>>> It might be worthwhile to treat the removal of

Re: [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade

2020-01-12 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 1/12/2020 17:32, Andreas Sturmlechner wrote: > On Sonntag, 12. Januar 2020 23:07:24 CET Joshua Kinard wrote: >> It might be worthwhile to treat the removal of Python-2.7 from the tree in >> the same manner as an EAPI deprecation and removal, given how ingrained it >> is

Re: [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade

2020-01-12 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 1/12/2020 17:17, David Seifert wrote: > On Sun, 2020-01-12 at 17:07 -0500, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 12/5/2019 09:24, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 8:59 AM Jason A. Donenfeld >>> wrote: >>>> It's quite another to mask random packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade

2020-01-12 Thread Joshua Kinard
how ingrained it is due to its longevity. That will minimize the whiplash-effect of emerge complaining about slot conflicts and dependency conflicts. Like I just ran into w/ setuptools-45.0.0.0's release. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 19

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-27 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/27/2019 12:12, Matt Turner wrote: > On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 3:06 AM James Le Cuirot wrote: >> >> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 05:38:48 -0400 >> Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >>> Why do I not like an initramfs, though? Well, for one, it complicates the >>&

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-27 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/27/2019 06:06, James Le Cuirot wrote: > On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 05:38:48 -0400 > Joshua Kinard wrote: > >> Why do I not like an initramfs, though? Well, for one, it complicates the >> kernel compiles (and it makes them bigger, something which is an issue on >> t

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-27 Thread Joshua Kinard
ate. ZFS is completely reliant on checksums, and ARC needs gobs upon gobs of RAM. So that right there means ZFS might not be viable on those old systems (at least w/ SHA checksumming -- fletcher4 might be fine). And that's assuming ZFS even compiles for a mips64 target and runs without turning a dis

Re: [gentoo-dev] New distfile mirror layout

2019-10-22 Thread Joshua Kinard
llowing discussion. Having the discussion, then waiting a few years before implementing them leads to discussions like this where we're arguing about the color of the boat after the boat has sailed off into the distance. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 201

Re: [gentoo-dev] New distfile mirror layout

2019-10-22 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/21/2019 06:13, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 16:57:54 -0400 > Joshua Kinard wrote: > >> I know we've got a ton of Perl packages for the core set of Perl modules, >> but doesn't the CPAN eclass also have the capability to auto-generate an >> ebuild pac

Re: [gentoo-dev] New distfile mirror layout

2019-10-20 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/20/2019 16:57, Joshua Kinard wrote:> On 10/20/2019 05:44, Michal Górny wrote: >> On Sun, 2019-10-20 at 05:21 -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>> On 10/20/2019 04:32, Michal Górny wrote: [snip] >> You believe it to be a problem. Don't expect others to bother upstream

Re: [gentoo-dev] New distfile mirror layout

2019-10-20 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/20/2019 05:44, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 2019-10-20 at 05:21 -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 10/20/2019 04:32, Michał Górny wrote: >>> On Sun, 2019-10-20 at 04:25 -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>>> Why is having a max ~24k files in a directory a bad

Re: [gentoo-dev] New distfile mirror layout

2019-10-20 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/20/2019 04:32, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 2019-10-20 at 04:25 -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 10/20/2019 02:51, Michał Górny wrote: >>> On Sat, 2019-10-19 at 19:24 -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>>> On 10/18/2019 09:41, Michał Górny wrote: >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] New distfile mirror layout

2019-10-20 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/20/2019 02:51, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sat, 2019-10-19 at 19:24 -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 10/18/2019 09:41, Michał Górny wrote: >>> Hi, everybody. >>> >>> It is my pleasure to announce that yesterday (EU) evening we've switched >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] New distfile mirror layout

2019-10-19 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/19/2019 19:57, Alec Warner wrote: > On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 4:24 PM Joshua Kinard wrote: > >> On 10/18/2019 09:41, Michał Górny wrote: >>> Hi, everybody. >>> >>> It is my pleasure to announce that yesterday (EU) evening we've switched >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-19 Thread Joshua Kinard
mping everything into one spot -- which is something I do at home WAY too much -- just strikes me as a bad idea. Binning stuff into different buckets offers SOME degree of organization. It also means 'ls -l /bin' is still somewhat readable on a system with a full desktop installed. -- Joshua Ki

Re: [gentoo-dev] New distfile mirror layout

2019-10-19 Thread Joshua Kinard
tfile is at. No math, statistical analysis, or deep-rooted knowledge of filesystems behind that paragraph. Just a plain old unfiltered opinion. Sometimes, I need to go get a distfile off the Gentoo mirrors, and being able to quickly find it in the mirror root is great. Having to do hash calculatio

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-15 Thread Joshua Kinard
>>>> >>>> >>>> William has confirmed on IRC that USE=-split-usr performs the >>>> complete >>>> Fedora-esque /usr merge (which makes sense IMO). >>> >>> William's opinion is not the only one that matters. >> >

[gentoo-dev] Re: toolchain.eclass musl changes

2019-05-21 Thread Joshua Kinard
ce that I oughta know about? -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping net-fs/ncpfs and net-misc/ipx-utils around?

2019-03-26 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/26/2019 10:22, Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 2019-03-25 at 15:19 -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> Throwing a question out there on whether to keep both the net-fs/ncpfs and >> net-misc/ipx-utils packages around any longer. Kernel upstream removed both >> the IPX (Interne

[gentoo-dev] Keeping net-fs/ncpfs and net-misc/ipx-utils around?

2019-03-25 Thread Joshua Kinard
?: sys-apps/mlocate/files/updatedb.conf Remove reference to 'ipx-utils': profiles/license_groups Thoughts? -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confus

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: some old X11 packages

2019-03-03 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/3/2019 14:15, Matt Turner wrote: > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:09 AM Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >> On 3/2/2019 13:46, Matt Turner wrote: >>> # Matt Turner (02 Mar 2019) >>> # Old, unused drivers. >>> # Masked for removal in 30 days. Bug #67

Re: [gentoo-dev] util-linux build time increase?

2019-03-03 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/1/2019 10:01, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, N, 28.02.2019 kell 04:13, kirjutas Joshua Kinard: >> On 2/25/2019 05:18, Alexander Tsoy wrote: >>> В Пн, 25/02/2019 в 13:07 +0300, Alexander Tsoy пишет: >>>> В Чт, 21/02/2019 в 04:36 -0500, Joshua Kinard

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: some old X11 packages

2019-03-03 Thread Joshua Kinard
t maintained upstream? My Indy is dead due to a bad RTC, so I can't test it for the foreseeable future. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the fu

Re: [gentoo-dev] util-linux build time increase?

2019-02-28 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 2/21/2019 16:18, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 2/21/19 1:29 PM, Guilherme Amadio wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 04:36:24AM -0500, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>> Does anyone have an idea why util-linux's build time would go up >>> significantly from 2.32.x to 2.33

Re: [gentoo-dev] util-linux build time increase?

2019-02-28 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 2/25/2019 05:18, Alexander Tsoy wrote: > В Пн, 25/02/2019 в 13:07 +0300, Alexander Tsoy пишет: >> В Чт, 21/02/2019 в 04:36 -0500, Joshua Kinard пишет: >>> Does anyone have an idea why util-linux's build time would go up >>> significantly from 2.32.x to 2.33.x? It

[gentoo-dev] util-linux build time increase?

2019-02-21 Thread Joshua Kinard
sys-apps/util-linux-2.33.1 merge time: 1 hour, 23 minutes and 37 seconds. Thu Feb 21 04:14:33 2019 >>> sys-apps/util-linux-2.33.1 merge time: 1 hour, 25 minutes and 15 seconds. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecation and removal of 13.0 profiles is imminent

2019-02-20 Thread Joshua Kinard
les. The default 13.0 profiles should be left alone a bit longer, though. Transition shouldn't be a problem with those, as I last did a catalyst run from Sept 18 to Nov 18 that had no issues, but end of year obligations sidetracked me, so I need to eventually start over again with a more recent cat

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v5 03/16] glep-0063: 'Gentoo subkey' → 'Signing subkey'

2018-07-25 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 7/25/2018 1:38 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu śro, 25.07.2018 o godzinie 01∶28 -0400, użytkownik Joshua Kinard > napisał: >> On 7/8/2018 2:38 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> Replace the 'Gentoo subkey' term that might wrongly suggest that >>> the developers are ex

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v5 03/16] glep-0063: 'Gentoo subkey' → 'Signing subkey'

2018-07-24 Thread Joshua Kinard
three years on their committer keys: """ A three year key lifespan is short enough to obsolete keys weakened by advancing computer power, but long enough to reduce key management problems. """ https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/articl

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 07/11] glep-0063: Allow ECC, curve 25519 keys

2018-07-04 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 7/4/2018 7:22 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 07/05/2018 01:07 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>> @@ -64,6 +66,8 @@ not be used to commit. >>> >>> b. RSA, >=2048 bits (OpenPGP v4 key format or later only) >>> >>> + c. ECC, cu

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 07/11] glep-0063: Allow ECC, curve 25519 keys

2018-07-04 Thread Joshua Kinard
and clarify that they don't allow for a key length, as I think that's hardcoded in some capacity. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 09/11] glep-0063: Make recommended expiration terms mandatory

2018-07-04 Thread Joshua Kinard
see no problem with three years like the primary key. Especially since people will typically just change the expiration and advance it the minimum number of years, lather, rinse, and repeat. It's a solution looking for a problem. NAK on this. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly mips@ project status for April 2018

2018-04-02 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 4/2/2018 4:32 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu pon, 02.04.2018 o godzinie 13∶27 -0400, użytkownik Joshua Kinard > napisał: >> On 4/2/2018 5:41 AM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> W dniu nie, 01.04.2018 o godzinie 20∶40 -0700, użytkownik Matt Turner >>> napisał: >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly mips@ project status for April 2018

2018-04-02 Thread Joshua Kinard
o knowledge of scheduling for the old CPU families, like R10K. I helped write the current R10K scheduling code for gcc a few years ago, so maybe could do something for clang/llvm, though I have no idea how they implement CPU scheduling logic. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org 6144R/F5C6

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-mips] Monthly mips@ project status for April 2018

2018-04-02 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 4/2/2018 3:37 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote: > On 4/1/2018 11:40 PM, Matt Turner wrote: >> I'd like to start giving ~monthly updates on the status of mips@ in >> Gentoo. >> >> Recently I received a Loongson 3A system (quad-core 1.35GHz, 16GB RAM, >> AMD graphi

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-mips] Monthly mips@ project status for April 2018

2018-04-02 Thread Joshua Kinard
ill be command line only. The X11 world has moved so far ahead, that even if Octane's X11 Impact driver got fixed, I doubt the experience would be anything but "fun". -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org 6144R/F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3

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