Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-15 Thread Philipp Riegger
On Apr 7, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Jakub Moc wrote: I bet there's a bug open for it. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117482 . How's portage 2.1 getting along? I notice it gets frequent updates. The gentoo-portage-dev list is the place to follow this. Also,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-11 Thread Tamas Sarga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Lauer wrote: On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 11:33 +0200, Grobian wrote: Maybe user-rel should, together with GWN bridge this problem by keeping the source of news anonymous? Just to use it as teasers of what kind of things are being done in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-08 Thread lnxg33k
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:51:58 +0100 Christopher O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Ideally, what I'd like is for the various dev teams to compile a | weekly status report, which could then be compiled into the weekly | newsletter (which currently seems to be lacking much

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-08 Thread Tom Wesley
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:37:01 +0100 Jonathan Coome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think planet.gentoo.org helps in this regard, but there could be a lot more done to keep end users aware of what's going on. It certainly does, but having some way to further organise this information by package or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations (fwd)

2006-04-08 Thread S. Lockwood-Childs
I apologize if this is a resend, but it seemed to me like the 1st attempt didn't get through (can't imagine why it would take longer than a couple of days to get to a gentoo-hosted mailing list from a gentoo-hosted mail account...) -- On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Christopher O'Neill

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations (fwd)

2006-04-08 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 00:40 +, S. Lockwood-Childs wrote: I apologize if this is a resend, but it seemed to me like the 1st attempt didn't get through (can't imagine why it would take longer than a couple of days to get to a gentoo-hosted mailing list from a gentoo-hosted mail account...

[gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Christopher O'Neill
As a Gentoo user, one thing that I'd very much like to see is improved communication between the dev teams and the users. At the moment it feels pretty much like I am in the dark as regarding to how we are progressing on certain things. Let me pick some examples: . A few days ago someone posted

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:51:58 +0100 Christopher O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Ideally, what I'd like is for the various dev teams to compile a | weekly status report, which could then be compiled into the weekly | newsletter (which currently seems to be lacking much useful | information). It

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Grobian
On 07-04-2006 11:07:28 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: I mean, as a purely hypothetical example... Could you imagine just how many dumb feature requests, questions and requests for code from the unwashed masses someone would get if they admitted to having an early alpha of an alternative to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Christopher O'Neill wrote: . I notice certain other popular distros are now running GCC4 (and have been for some time), yet we are still running 3.4.6 (on ~x86). I know it's a lot of work ensuring that all packages compile properly with GCC4 and that there are no introduced bugs, but I have no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:33:12 +0200 Grobian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On 07-04-2006 11:07:28 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | I mean, as a purely hypothetical example... Could you imagine just | how many dumb feature requests, questions and requests for code | from the unwashed masses someone

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Jakub Moc
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Christopher O'Neill wrote: . I notice certain other popular distros are now running GCC4 (and have been for some time), yet we are still running 3.4.6 (on ~x86). I know it's a lot of work ensuring that all packages compile properly with GCC4 and that there are no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Jonathan Coome
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 02:33:07 -0700 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The general case of the above is that if you want information, you need to find the right spot for it. That's generally either a specific relevant list or Bugzilla. The information doesn't come looking for you.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 11:33 +0200, Grobian wrote: Maybe user-rel should, together with GWN bridge this problem by keeping the source of news anonymous? Just to use it as teasers of what kind of things are being done in Gentoo's kitchen? Of course this only holds for new projects like in your

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
Heya Chris, Thank you for responding! On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 09:51 +0100, Christopher O'Neill wrote: As a Gentoo user, one thing that I'd very much like to see is improved communication between the dev teams and the users. At the moment it feels pretty much like I am in the dark as regarding

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 10:07 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:51:58 +0100 Christopher O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Ideally, what I'd like is for the various dev teams to compile a | weekly status report, which could then be compiled into the weekly | newsletter (which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Grant Goodyear
Christopher O'Neill wrote: [Fri Apr 07 2006, 03:51:58AM CDT] As a Gentoo user, one thing that I'd very much like to see is improved communication between the dev teams and the users. At the moment it feels pretty much like I am in the dark as regarding to how we are progressing on certain

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 11:33 +0200, Grobian wrote: On 07-04-2006 11:07:28 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [let's pretend I snipped a bit here, oh wait, I did!] Maybe user-rel should, together with GWN bridge this problem by keeping the source of news anonymous? Just to use it as teasers of what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 13:32 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote: On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 11:33 +0200, Grobian wrote: Maybe user-rel should, together with GWN bridge this problem by keeping the source of news anonymous? Just to use it as teasers of what kind of things are being done in Gentoo's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 02:33 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: [snip] The general case of the above is that if you want information, you need to find the right spot for it. That's generally either a specific relevant list or Bugzilla. The information doesn't come looking for you. That may have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 11:37 +0100, Jonathan Coome wrote: On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 02:33:07 -0700 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The general case of the above is that if you want information, you need to find the right spot for it. That's generally either a specific relevant list or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Martin Ehmsen
Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 10:07 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: So, from a developer pov Ciaran; if we could come up with some way of keeping up to date with what you guys do (without eating up any of your time or getting in your way) and then keep the masses informed, would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:19:35 +0100 Christel Dahlskjaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | So, from a developer pov Ciaran; if we could come up with some way of | keeping up to date with what you guys do (without eating up any of | your time or getting in your way) and then keep the masses informed, |

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 15:35 +0200, Martin Ehmsen wrote: [snip] How about a website/blog hosted on www.gentoo.org pr. project and a little tool for posting on such a website (ala echangelog). I don't have the time to set something like that up on my own, but I would use it if it was given

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 08:20 -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: [snip] On the other hand, this problem does have a solution--another level of indirection. Anybody who wishes, dev or user, could spend time tracking Gentoo development (through bugs and the mailing lists) and submit status reports to

[gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Duncan
Christopher O'Neill posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:51:58 +0100: some examples: . A few days ago someone posted on the dev list asking about KDE3.5.x and it's current masked status. As a KDE user myself I was also interested in the answer to his question,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 14:43 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:19:35 +0100 Christel Dahlskjaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | So, from a developer pov Ciaran; if we could come up with some way of | keeping up to date with what you guys do (without eating up any of | your time or