Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-29 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:44:57 -0700 Luca Barbato lu_z...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10/04/12 11:45, William Hubbs wrote: There are binaries in /{bin,sbin} which link against libraries in /usr/lib for example. We could try to have an exact list and figure out exactly what is it and how impacting

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-29 Thread Luca Barbato
On 28/04/12 23:44, Michał Górny wrote: I have already opened bugs for many of them. But the list will increase in time, and we'll either move a lot of libraries to /lib* or decide to go the other way. repeat after me EARLY BOOT, as in initramfs. In initramfs you don't have /usr with everything

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-29 Thread Zac Medico
On 04/29/2012 12:04 AM, Luca Barbato wrote: On 28/04/12 23:44, Michał Górny wrote: I have already opened bugs for many of them. But the list will increase in time, and we'll either move a lot of libraries to /lib* or decide to go the other way. repeat after me EARLY BOOT, as in initramfs.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-29 Thread Luca Barbato
On 29/04/12 15:40, Zac Medico wrote: Maybe it's reasonable for the initramfs to utilize a config file from /etc of the future root filesystem, but having in depend on files from the future /usr seems like a strange idea. Wouldn't it make more sense to bundle all dependencies into the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-28 Thread Luca Barbato
On 10/04/12 11:45, William Hubbs wrote: Also, I am going to reiterate what Greg said. This is not an issue with udev, but with the entire linux ecosystem. As in bluez using dbus and some mount helpers requiring libraries in /usr. There are binaries in /{bin,sbin} which link against libraries

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-22 Thread Steven J Long
Ulrich Mueller wrote: | 3. New udev and separate /usr partition (30 minutes) | |See [4]: Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a supported |configuration. If it is, newer udev can not be stabled and |alternatives should be investigated. If it isn't, a lot of |

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-22 Thread Mike Gilbert
On 04/22/2012 05:28 AM, Steven J Long wrote: Ulrich Mueller wrote: | 3. New udev and separate /usr partition (30 minutes) | |See [4]: Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a supported |configuration. If it is, newer udev can not be stabled and |alternatives should be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-22 Thread Zac Medico
On 04/22/2012 10:55 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On 04/22/2012 05:28 AM, Steven J Long wrote: Ulrich Mueller wrote: | 3. New udev and separate /usr partition (30 minutes) | |See [4]: Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a supported |configuration. If it is, newer udev can not be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-11 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:45:04 -0500 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 03:04:22PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 04:30:01PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: New udev and separate /usr partition Decide on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-10 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 03:04:22PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 04:30:01PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: New udev and separate /usr partition Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a supported configuration. If it is, newer udev can

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-08 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 04:30:01PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: New udev and separate /usr partition Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a supported configuration. If it is, newer udev can not be stabled and alternatives should be investigated. If

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 04:30:01PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: The council has voted in favour of a separate /usr being supported (5 yes, 1 no vote). What? Perhaps the council should be the ones to clarify, but I think the