Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-07-11 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 07:24 +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > - 23 only make .config checks (should be non-fatal anyway) I couldn't agree more. This bites us in the ass every single release. People who make .config checks fatal should be forced to maintain mozilla-* for a month... ;] > - 4 use lin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-07-10 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 09/07/2006-17:17:59(+0100): John Mylchreest types > I've tried to clarify my point fairly well above, but the dependancy > is fairly strict by design. What in linux-mod except for my specific > example above would continue to work if there were no kernel sources > present? (I do of course

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-07-09 Thread John Mylchreest
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 02:32:36PM +0200, "Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>This is duplicating the superb efforts of the kernel team and of > > >>linux-info eclass. As such I would like to deprecate $KV in favor > > >>of using linux-info eclass. I don't see the need for portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-07-09 Thread John Mylchreest
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 11:13:33AM +, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Portage currently exports $KV as the current kernel version. We detect > this by attempting to mess around with the things in /usr/src/linux > (.config, make files, etc...) > > This is duplicating the superb effo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 20 June 2006 20:18, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > By handling it better, I mean that the code should at runtime try both > interfaces, rather than pick one to compile into the binary. yeah, this differentiates good packages and mediocre packages ;) -mike pgpp6T4cBLu01.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-20 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 08:49:41PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > > Could upstream have handled it better? Yes, most definitely. Did they? > > No, not yet. We're stuck picking up the pieces. > What does upstream have to do with the decision to "chmod u+s,go-r > /usr/bin/gpg" or not? If using a ker

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-20 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 14:32 +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > In summary, I agree that $KV should disappear from portage, and that > anything that depends on kernel configuration should use > linux-info.eclass. Also I'd like to see the dependency on > virtual/linux-sources removed from linux-info.ecl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-20 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:38:49 + Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Georgi Georgiev wrote: > > maillog: 19/06/2006-11:13:33(+): Alec Warner types > > > >>Portage currently exports $KV as the current kernel version. We > >>detect this by attempting to mess around with the things > >>i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-20 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 19/06/2006-17:15:37(-0700): Robin H. Johnson types > On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 05:00:41PM -0700, infowolfe wrote: > > >Kernel headers being the virtual/linux-headers dependency that Georgi > > >mentioned. `uname -r` works, but is annoying because you can't build > > >for a kernel other than

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-20 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 19/06/2006-16:34:55(-0700): Ryan Tandy types > Arek (James Potts) wrote: > >If they don't actually build against the kernel, > >couldn't/shouldn't they look at either kernel-headers or the output of > >`uname -r`? > > Kernel headers being the virtual/linux-headers dependency that Georgi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-19 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 05:00:41PM -0700, infowolfe wrote: > >Kernel headers being the virtual/linux-headers dependency that Georgi > >mentioned. `uname -r` works, but is annoying because you can't build > >for a kernel other than the one you're running. > Which only applies to kernel modules, not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-19 Thread infowolfe
On 6/19/06, Ryan Tandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Arek (James Potts) wrote: > If they don't actually build against the kernel, > couldn't/shouldn't they look at either kernel-headers or the output of > `uname -r`? Kernel headers being the virtual/linux-headers dependency that Georgi mentioned.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-19 Thread Ryan Tandy
Arek (James Potts) wrote: If they don't actually build against the kernel, couldn't/shouldn't they look at either kernel-headers or the output of `uname -r`? Kernel headers being the virtual/linux-headers dependency that Georgi mentioned. `uname -r` works, but is annoying because you can't b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-19 Thread Arek (James Potts)
Alec Warner wrote: Georgi Georgiev wrote: maillog: 19/06/2006-11:13:33(+): Alec Warner types Portage currently exports $KV as the current kernel version. We detect this by attempting to mess around with the things in /usr/src/linux (.config, make files, etc...) This is duplicating the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-19 Thread Alec Warner
Georgi Georgiev wrote: maillog: 19/06/2006-11:13:33(+): Alec Warner types Portage currently exports $KV as the current kernel version. We detect this by attempting to mess around with the things in /usr/src/linux (.config, make files, etc...) This is duplicating the superb efforts of th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-19 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 19/06/2006-11:13:33(+): Alec Warner types > Portage currently exports $KV as the current kernel version. We detect > this by attempting to mess around with the things in /usr/src/linux > (.config, make files, etc...) > > This is duplicating the superb efforts of the kernel team and