Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/08/2013 11:49 PM, Duncan wrote: Zac Medico posted on Tue, 08 Jan 2013 23:36:59 -0800 as excerpted: Thought: Do the CVS keyword expansion in repoman, and then feed the expanded file to CVS for commit. This gives you a fixed file, which you can then generate your manifest against.

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread justin
On 03/01/13 00:41, Pacho Ramos wrote: What is the purpose of this stuff: if [[ ${___ECLASS_ONCE_EUTILS} != recur -_+^+_- spank ]] ; then ___ECLASS_ONCE_EUTILS=recur -_+^+_- spank I don't know exactly sure if this is the source of some recent problems, but I assume it is. While fixing some

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/09/2013 12:40 AM, justin wrote: My question, did anybody else might have observed similar things? Is there a flaw in this *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff? There could well be, but even in the absence of the *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff, the problem that you're describing could be attributed to eclass

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 09-01-2013 00:31:04 -0800, Zac Medico wrote: Of course that assumes that the keywords are suitably distinct such that they won't ordinarily be found in the pre-expanded lines. Whether that's actually the case or not I've no idea... Well, I'd suggest to simply drop the keywords.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 09/01/2013 10:09, Fabian Groffen wrote: Yeah, but I'd really appreciate it if they could stay for as long as we're on CVS, so my scripts that use the version number to retrieve diffs and apply them to the Prefix' tree versions keep on working. Since we're discussing adding this on Portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread justin
On 09/01/13 10:03, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/09/2013 12:40 AM, justin wrote: My question, did anybody else might have observed similar things? Is there a flaw in this *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff? There could well be, but even in the absence of the *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff, the problem that you're

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 09/01/2013 09:40, justin wrote: Also the internals of the build are affected (probably through the difference in configure). This leads to disrespected LDFLAGS and broken tclConfig.sh. So this simple change has deep consequences. This looks like the _version_ of autoconf used is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 09-01-2013 10:14:21 +0100, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 09/01/2013 10:09, Fabian Groffen wrote: Yeah, but I'd really appreciate it if they could stay for as long as we're on CVS, so my scripts that use the version number to retrieve diffs and apply them to the Prefix' tree versions keep

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread justin
On 09/01/13 10:26, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 09/01/2013 09:40, justin wrote: Also the internals of the build are affected (probably through the difference in configure). This leads to disrespected LDFLAGS and broken tclConfig.sh. So this simple change has deep consequences. This looks

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread justin
On 09/01/13 10:26, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 09/01/2013 09:40, justin wrote: Also the internals of the build are affected (probably through the difference in configure). This leads to disrespected LDFLAGS and broken tclConfig.sh. So this simple change has deep consequences. This looks

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread justin
On 09/01/13 12:29, justin wrote: On 09/01/13 10:26, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 09/01/2013 09:40, justin wrote: Also the internals of the build are affected (probably through the difference in configure). This leads to disrespected LDFLAGS and broken tclConfig.sh. So this simple change has

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 09/01/2013 12:39, justin wrote: I assume it is a portage problem, because the log says autoconf is run but configure.in didn't change. What do you mean configure.in didn't change but autoconf is run? Does it cause a maintainer-mode rebuild? Did you use eautoreconf? -- Diego Elio

[gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Duncan
Zac Medico posted on Tue, 08 Jan 2013 23:42:39 -0800 as excerpted: Weren't we planning to drop the CVS keywords for the git migration, anyway? Talking about which... I don't want a big subthread out of this, just looking for a simple answer: Are the git migration blockers at such a point

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 09/01/2013 13:20, Duncan wrote: Are the git migration blockers at such a point that we can get an ETA yet? PLEASE ALL STOP DETOURING EVERY DAMN TOPIC OUT THERE WITH THE GIT MIGRATION, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. And yes I know it's not polite to scream. At this point I DON'T CARE. -- Diego

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Zac Medico posted on Tue, 08 Jan 2013 23:42:39 -0800 as excerpted: Weren't we planning to drop the CVS keywords for the git migration, anyway? Are the git migration blockers at such a point that we can get an ETA yet?

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread justin
On 09/01/13 12:44, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 09/01/2013 12:39, justin wrote: I assume it is a portage problem, because the log says autoconf is run but configure.in didn't change. What do you mean configure.in didn't change but autoconf is run? the build.log says Running eautoreconf

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:23:13 +0100 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: PLEASE ALL STOP DETOURING EVERY DAMN TOPIC OUT THERE WITH THE GIT MIGRATION, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. Translation: We all know that there are lots of things that would be a hell of a lot easier if we weren't the

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 09/01/2013 13:35, justin wrote: Running autoheader ...[!!] That is unfortunately common... A diff between the original and the two run build's configure.in shows only a difference by one of the two (in both cases the autoheader failed). I lost you here... can you attach the build logs?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 09/01/2013 13:37, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Translation: We all know that there are lots of things that would be a hell of a lot easier if we weren't the only project in the world still using CVS, but the Git migration is never going to happen, so mentioning it just makes everyone angry. No,

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread justin
On 09/01/13 13:40, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 09/01/2013 13:35, justin wrote: Running autoheader ...[!!] That is unfortunately common... A diff between the original and the two run build's configure.in shows only a difference by one of the two (in both cases the autoheader failed). I

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 09/01/2013 13:54, justin wrote: I found the problem. The patch works on configure and configure.in. If both files are patched sometimes autoconf doesn't run. I fixed the patch to only touch .in and everything is fine. autoconf or eautoconf problem? QA violation by patching both files

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 09/01/2013 13:37, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Translation: We all know that there are lots of things that would be a hell of a lot easier if we weren't the only project in the world still using CVS, but the Git

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/09/2013 01:09 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: On 09-01-2013 00:31:04 -0800, Zac Medico wrote: Of course that assumes that the keywords are suitably distinct such that they won't ordinarily be found in the pre-expanded lines. Whether that's actually the case or not I've no idea... Well,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 09-01-2013 05:06:15 -0800, Zac Medico wrote: If we had a live cvs - git sync, then I'd suggest that you migrate your scripts to use that instead. However, it looks like this one is not synced regularly (last sync was about 2 months ago):

[gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Duncan
Diego Elio Pettenò posted on Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:23:13 +0100 as excerpted: On 09/01/2013 13:20, Duncan wrote: Are the git migration blockers at such a point that we can get an ETA yet? PLEASE ALL STOP DETOURING EVERY DAMN TOPIC OUT THERE WITH THE GIT MIGRATION, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. And

[gentoo-dev] changes to tested bugzilla keyword proposal

2013-01-09 Thread Vicente Olivert Riera
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello everyone :-) some devs and I were talking about the fact that TESTED bugzilla keyword may need a change on his description, or, maybe it's needed to create new TESTED_${ARCH} keywords. Personally, I was using TESTED keyword when an ebuild was

Re: [gentoo-dev] changes to tested bugzilla keyword proposal

2013-01-09 Thread Markos Chandras
On 9 January 2013 18:17, Vicente Olivert Riera per...@carrosses.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello everyone :-) some devs and I were talking about the fact that TESTED bugzilla keyword may need a change on his description, or, maybe it's needed to create new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Wordiness

2013-01-09 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 23:33:02 -0600 Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote: On 05:31 Fri 21 Dec , Matt Turner wrote: My point is that you consistently write long essays that I, and apparently most others, don't bother to read. I'm not sure if you're aware of this. Someone said

Re: [gentoo-dev] changes to tested bugzilla keyword proposal

2013-01-09 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 18:39:09 +0200 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On 9 January 2013 18:17, Vicente Olivert Riera per...@carrosses.com some devs and I were talking about the fact that TESTED bugzilla keyword may need a change on his description, or, maybe it's needed to create

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 05:06:15 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/09/2013 01:09 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: On 09-01-2013 00:31:04 -0800, Zac Medico wrote: Of course that assumes that the keywords are suitably distinct such that they won't ordinarily be found in the pre-expanded

Re: [gentoo-dev] changes to tested bugzilla keyword proposal

2013-01-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: A lot clearer than a single text field littered with keywords would be some tick boxes, indeed. In fact, it makes me wonder why we use a half-obscured list in a select field for adding/removing arch teams now. Agree -

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 07-01-2013 a las 10:34 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: [...] This will install a README.gentoo file But there are still pending issues I don't know how to handle: - Eclass was originally oriented to cover those kind of messages that could be shown by elog first time the package is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/09/2013 12:31 AM, Zac Medico wrote: I guess we could use the cvs -ko option [1] on all files. That's apparently what prevents $Header expansion for $PORTDIR/skel.ebuild. Actually, we should use -kb rather than -ko, since -kb disables transformations entirely [1]. The -ko mode is identical

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/09/2013 11:53 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: This changes the name of eclass to readme.gentoo.eclass and gets information from ${FILESDIR}/README.gentoo What if there are multiple versions/slots that have different README.gentoo content? Maybe the eclass should accommodate that somehow? --

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 09-01-2013 a las 12:04 -0800, Zac Medico escribió: On 01/09/2013 11:53 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: This changes the name of eclass to readme.gentoo.eclass and gets information from ${FILESDIR}/README.gentoo What if there are multiple versions/slots that have different README.gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 09-01-2013 a las 22:15 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: El mié, 09-01-2013 a las 12:04 -0800, Zac Medico escribió: On 01/09/2013 11:53 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: This changes the name of eclass to readme.gentoo.eclass and gets information from ${FILESDIR}/README.gentoo What if there

[gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-09 Thread William Hubbs
All, as you probably know by now, udev-197 has hit the tree. This new version implements a new feature called predictable network interface names [1], which I have currently turned off for live systems, because it will require migration on the part of the user. When you upgrade to this new

Re: [gentoo-dev] EFI stub booting, was: borked release media

2013-01-09 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Greg KH schrieb: On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:21:29AM +0100, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: Greg KH schrieb: No, all we need is to enable EFI stub support in the kernel, and integrate the initramfs using CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE and place it in some location where UEFI looks for it

Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-09 Thread Christopher Head
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:13:10 -0600 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames This seems like a good thing for some systems. Will there be a news item when 197 (or greater) goes stable informing people that the

Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-09 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 02:59:10PM -0800, Christopher Head wrote: On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:13:10 -0600 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames This seems like a good thing for some systems. Will there be a

Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-09 Thread Christopher Head
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 18:13:21 -0600 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: There is a way for users to opt out if we default this to on, but I think the new naming scheme has advantages over the traditional eth* wlan* etc names. I think it should be taken with a grain of salt. The page

Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-09 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/09/2013 04:13 PM, William Hubbs wrote: All, as you probably know by now, udev-197 has hit the tree. This new version implements a new feature called predictable network interface names [1], which I have currently turned off for live

Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Daniel Campbell dlcampb...@gmx.com wrote: So long as users retain the choice of keeping eth* or wlan*, no complaints from me. I (and others) came to Gentoo to get away from systemd, and this smells of a systemd-ism. Will eudev be pursuing this as well? Keep in

Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-09 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 01/09/2013 10:33 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Daniel Campbell dlcampb...@gmx.com wrote: So long as users retain the choice of keeping eth* or wlan*, no complaints from me. I (and others) came to Gentoo to get away from systemd, and this smells of a systemd-ism.