Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping phpgroupware from the Portage tree

2005-11-20 Thread Petteri Räty
for an alternative. >> >>Best regards, >>Stu > > > This looks like one of those things that should be announced in GWN or > something. phpgroupware is still widely used and users need to know Gentoo > is dropping support for it in favor of egroupware. > gentoo-announce mailing list too if it is still widely used Regards, Petteri Räty signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] the upcoming ppp ebuild need to remove files from /etc

2005-11-21 Thread Petteri Räty
Alin Nastac wrote: > Hi gang, > > The new ppp ebuild should erase /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0 and > /etc/init.d/net.ppp0 installed by previous versions of net-dialup/ppp. > The upcoming sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre11 will be able to handle any > kind of PPP links. > > What would be the best way of doi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords

2005-11-21 Thread Petteri Räty
R Hill wrote: > Daniel Ahlberg wrote: > > >>* if ebuild installs COPYING and/or INSTALL into doc. > > > Is this actually important? There are a hell of a lot of ebuilds that fail > under this rule. I'd like to start filing patches for some of the packages in > this list so I'm interested in k

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Petteri Räty
Lance Albertson wrote: > Curtis Napier wrote: > > >>If you have access to a Macintosh, Windows, *BSD or any other OS or >>Browser please test the site and include your OS and the browser version >>in your feedback. I haven't received feedback from Konqueror or Safari >>so feedback from those brow

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Petteri Räty
Aaron Kulbe wrote: >>I have the same consern. I use a TFT-display (Dell 2005FPW) that has a >>quite bright back light which might be the cause of the light colors >>being hard to read. > > > Petteri, > > I have that same display. I turn the brightness down to 40%, since > it's way too bright at

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Petteri Räty
Curtis Napier wrote: > This has been cross posted to gentoo-dev and www-redesign. > > http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org > > After receiving a ton of very useful feedback from the developer > community I have updated the redesign. It should now be closer to 100% > accessible and it should (hopefully)

Re: [gentoo-dev] new developer Joshua Nichols (nichoj)

2005-11-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Jochen Maes wrote: > Hello all, > > > I'd appreciate a nice welcome and a descent slap on the butt when you > pass him... > > Joshua, welcome! > > http://tinyurl.com/n9qb I hope to see this list near hundred soon! Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: new developer Joshua Nichols (nichoj)

2005-11-23 Thread Petteri Räty
Duncan wrote: > Petteri Räty posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on > Wed, 23 Nov 2005 00:26:57 +0200: > > >>Jochen Maes wrote: >> >>>Hello all, >>> >>> >> >>>I'd appreciate a nice welcome

Re: [gentoo-dev] festival use flag

2005-11-26 Thread Petteri Räty
William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > The following packages have festival as a use flag: > > media-plugins/mythphone:festival - Enable festival support > media-radio/xastir:festival - Enable festival support > > I would like to add this use flag to > app-accessibility/speech-dispatcher also. > > Is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-26 Thread Petteri Räty
Ned Ludd wrote: > Good afternoon, > > Would you be willing to give up space in $ROOT/usr/lib/debug for ELF > executables by default in order to aid in better debugging by or do we > want to only emit it when a FEATURE= is defined. > > Having a split debug pretty much obsoletes the need to add nos

[gentoo-dev] Are there valid uses for repoman --ignore-other-arches?

2005-11-27 Thread Petteri Räty
--ignore-other-arches Instructs repoman to ignore arches that are not relevent to the committing arch. REPORT/FIX issues you work around. Are there any valid uses for this switch or can it be deprecated? From a QA point of view this seems like a very bad option. Regards, Petteri signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86

2005-11-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Mark Loeser wrote: > > So, let me know if marking it stable in the next day or two is completely > stupid and I should wait to announce this via the GWN or something, or if its > an alright move and people aren't going to stab me for marking it stable. > gentoo-announce at least. I wish emerge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86

2005-12-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 17:34 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > > > Technically, you don't need to rebuild world. You only need to rebuild > stuff that uses C++ and links to libstdc++. > > How about giving the following as an alternative: revdep-rebuild --library=libstdc++.s

Re: [gentoo-dev] contents of /dev after initial installation

2005-12-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Matthias Langer wrote: > revealed that there are in fact hundrets of premade device nodes in the /dev > directory. > And this is not only true for the box where i discovered this, which was > brought up from a > 2004.x cd, but also true for the box where i just installed gentoo from > 2005.1-r1

[gentoo-dev] Changing description for the xml global use flag

2005-12-19 Thread Petteri Räty
/usr/portage/profiles/use.desc:xml - Check/Support flag for XML library (version 1) I think the xml use flag should be more generic. There are after all other alternatives for xml support than dev-libs/libxml. Maybe something like Adds xml support? Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: Op

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing description for the xml global use flag

2005-12-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:48:52PM +0200, Petteri R??ty wrote: > >>/usr/portage/profiles/use.desc:xml - Check/Support flag for XML library >>(version 1) >> >>I think the xml use flag should be more generic. There are after all >>other alternatives for xml support than dev

[gentoo-dev] Portage 2.0.53 now stable on x86

2005-12-21 Thread Petteri Räty
-f, --fixattempt to fix problems Regards, Petteri Räty (Betelgeuse) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Commiting of ~arch virtual/* ebuilds causes deptree issues

2005-12-21 Thread Petteri Räty
Mark Loeser wrote: > Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >>Hello here, >> >>the virtual/ thingy broke the deptree again with virtual/libstdc++ (see Bug >>116253), essentially the same issue like with virtual/x11. These virtuals >>need to go straight stable if any of their RDEPEND atoms is stable

[gentoo-dev] 2006 and ebuild headers

2005-12-21 Thread Petteri Räty
# Copyright 1999-2005 Gentoo Foundation # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 # $Header: $ I remember last year the mirror system having problems when some people went and changed tons of ebuild headers. What I don't remember is if we set some kind of policy then, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing description for the xml global use flag

2005-12-23 Thread Petteri Räty
Stuart Herbert wrote: > > I can see where you're coming from, but I'm not sure it's worth the > potential disruption that this will cause our users. > > Unless I'm missing something, won't every user who has any form of > USE=xml, USE=-xml, USE=xml2, or USE=-xml2 in make.conf and packages.use >

[gentoo-dev] checdeps.rb for getting deps out of elf files

2005-12-23 Thread Petteri Räty
http://dev.gentoo.org/~betelgeuse/scripts/checkdeps.rb Some people will probably find this useful. Basically it does ldd on all the elf files in a package and then checks to which packages those libraries belong. I think portage people are working on integrating something like this to portage in th

Re: [gentoo-dev] mozextension.eclass

2005-12-25 Thread Petteri Räty
Lance Albertson wrote: > Bryan Østergaard wrote: > >>On Sun, Dec 25, 2005 at 02:00:19PM -0600, Jory A. Pratt wrote: >> >> >>>Once thunderbird 1.5 comes out same will be done for locales support in >>>ebuilds. I am gonna push this eclass rather fast as it benefits so many >>>users/devs. Any objecti

[gentoo-dev] making dodoc and dohtml die when they fail and stricter is on

2005-12-25 Thread Petteri Räty
gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 12:54:04AM +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: > Currently there are quite a few ebuilds in the tree that execute dodoc > or dohtml for files that do not exist. I think it would be nice to have > ebuil

Re: [gentoo-dev] making dodoc and dohtml die when they fail and stricter is on

2005-12-26 Thread Petteri Räty
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Monday 26 December 2005 03:28, Chris White wrote: > >>I'm not sure if we're on the same page as far as the target audience of >>this change. The target audience is developers/those with strict in their >>features. > > Actually "stricter", and there are way t

Re: [gentoo-dev] making dodoc and dohtml die when they fail and stricter is on

2005-12-26 Thread Petteri Räty
Jakub Moc wrote: > >>>Currently there are quite a few ebuilds in the tree that execute dodoc or >>>dohtml for files that do not exist. I think it would be nice to have >>>ebuilds die if this is the case. To not break current ebuilds this would >>>only happen with FEATURES="stricter". > > > Sigh.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stupid USE defaults that need cleaning

2005-12-26 Thread Petteri Räty
Bastiaan Visser wrote: > On Monday 26 December 2005 09:33, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >>On Monday 26 December 2005 02:24, Doug Goldstein wrote: >> >>>well there is always USE enabling... (i.e. When I emerge x11-libs/qt, >>>it'll turn on the "qt" USE flag) >> >>which we've already established quite cl

[gentoo-dev] Installing COPYING or LICENSE files

2005-12-26 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty wrote: > R Hill wrote: > >>Daniel Ahlberg wrote: >> >> >> >>>* if ebuild installs COPYING and/or INSTALL into doc. >> >> >>Is this actually important? There are a hell of a lot of ebuilds that fail >>under this rule

Re: [gentoo-dev] Installing COPYING or LICENSE files

2005-12-26 Thread Petteri Räty
Drake Wyrm wrote: > Petteri R??ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Petteri R??ty wrote: >> >>>R Hill wrote: >>> Daniel Ahlberg wrote: >* if ebuild installs COPYING and/or INSTALL into doc. Is this actually important? There are a hell of a lot of ebuilds that fail under thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Installing COPYING or LICENSE files

2005-12-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Harald van Dijk wrote: > On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 01:01:10AM -0600, R Hill wrote: > >>>Removing these files and relying on LICENSE=foo in the ebuild could be seen >>>as >>>a copyright violation. There are lots of samples in /usr/src/licenses that >>>aren't generic, but include a copyright notice

Re: [gentoo-dev] Installing COPYING or LICENSE files

2005-12-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty wrote: > Petteri Räty wrote: > >>R Hill wrote: >> >> >>>Daniel Ahlberg wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>* if ebuild installs COPYING and/or INSTALL into doc. >>> >>> >>>Is this actua

Re: [gentoo-dev] Putting qa warnings to a text file instead of showing them to the world

2005-12-27 Thread Petteri Räty
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 12:54:04AM +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: > >>Currently there are quite a few ebuilds in the tree that execute dodoc >>or dohtml for files that do not exist. I think it would be nice to have >>ebuilds die if this is the case. To not break current e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Putting qa warnings to a text file instead of showing them to the world

2005-12-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Lares Moreau wrote: > On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 21:41 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: > >>>On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 12:54:04AM +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Currently there are quite a few ebuilds in the tree that execute dodoc >>>>or doh

Re: [gentoo-dev] checdeps.rb for getting deps out of elf files

2005-12-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 01:09:08PM +0200, Petteri R??ty wrote: > >>Basically it does ldd on all >>the elf files in a package and then checks to which packages those >>libraries belong. > > > ldd is garbage for this purpose > > use `readelf -d ELF | grep NEEDED` or just `

Re: [gentoo-dev] checdeps.rb for getting deps out of elf files

2005-12-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Paul de Vrieze wrote: > On Tuesday 27 December 2005 23:12, Petteri Räty wrote: > >>This has the side affect that the library location code is not used >>until I code or take the logic from glibc from example. >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/bin $ checkdeps.rb subversion

Re: [gentoo-dev] checdeps.rb for getting deps out of elf files

2005-12-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Paul de Vrieze wrote: > On Wednesday 28 December 2005 17:26, Petteri Räty wrote: > >>I just picked some package as an example of the output with >>openoffice-bin. My understanding here is that if you link against those >>libraries, it will break break binary packages beca

Re: [gentoo-dev] mozextension.eclass last call!

2005-12-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Jory A. Pratt wrote: > Unless there are any major objections tomorrow night I will commit > mozextension.eclass to the tree. You can find mozextension.eclass at > http://dev.gentoo.org/~anarchy/eclass . You can also find the firefox > and firefox-bin ebuilds at http://dev.gentoo.org/~anarchy/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Split ebuilds for GCC

2006-01-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Duncan wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted > below, on Wed, 04 Jan 2006 08:44:18 +: > > >>On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 09:32:44 +0100 Dirk Heinrichs >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>| Am Mittwoch, 4. Januar 2006 09:16 schrieb ext Ciaran McCreesh: >>| > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuilds creating mountpoints

2006-01-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Stefaan wrote: > Hi! > > I'm having an issue with the openafs-ebuild, and I don't see a > solution for the moment. I wondered if someone on the list would: > > Prerequisite: > The ebuild needs to create the /afs directory, and remove that same > directory when it is uninstalled. > > The obvious

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuilds creating mountpoints

2006-01-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty wrote: > Stefaan wrote: > >>Hi! >> >>I'm having an issue with the openafs-ebuild, and I don't see a >>solution for the moment. I wondered if someone on the list would: >> >>Prerequisite: >>The ebuild needs to create the /

Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE, metapackages, and monolithic packages

2006-02-25 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Myers wrote: > Hello! > > Currently, as you all surely already know, KDE is currently handled with > metapackages or monolithic packages. The metapackages is very > convenient for a more complete install of KDE, and the monolithic > packages are better or a more modular install. However, wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Natanael Copa kirjoitti: On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 00:35 +0100, Fabio Erculiani wrote: I offer my help to fix DEPEND/RDEPEND split issues which is causing me a lot of headaches (along with localizations). For reference, please have a look here: http://planet.sabayonlinux.org/?p=105 I'm another di

Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabio Erculiani kirjoitti: [02:31] lxnay: we offer all of our work that you base your distribution off, and you don't contribute back at all, in any way. ^^ This is a really stupid sentence. It seems some of you don't even realize how many users we brought to Gentoo, and this is really sad. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-13 Thread Petteri Räty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: Well I'm a newcomer to Gentoo and never heard of Sabayon (great project btw). Knowing no one here or there, nor any history: Never heard of and you say it's a great project? This conversation reminds me of Human Resources. They always have 'procedures' and 'car

[gentoo-dev] FYI clarifications to skel.ebuild EAPI usage

2008-03-13 Thread Petteri Räty
solar reported that he had ebuild submissions blindly using EAPI=1 so we hopefully made the text better reflect that it should not be used unless absolutely needed. Regards, Petteri [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/portage $ cvs diff -r 1.44 skel.ebuild Index: skel.ebuild ===

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-14 Thread Petteri Räty
David Leverton kirjoitti: On Friday 14 March 2008 07:14:23 Rémi Cardona wrote: - the gnome2 eclass now has a pkg_preinst, if you do multiple inherits, make sure that gnome2_pkg_preinst is called too. The _games_eclass_ is one of those. Maybe worth adding a dummy to the current version of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Rémi Cardona kirjoitti: This is where I kindly request the help of fellow Gentoo devs and PM developers : - the gnome2 eclass now has a pkg_preinst, if you do multiple inherits, make sure that gnome2_pkg_preinst is called too. The _games_eclass_ is one of those. I only found two ebuilds to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-14 Thread Petteri Räty
David Leverton kirjoitti: On Friday 14 March 2008 12:14:39 Petteri Räty wrote: David Leverton kirjoitti: Maybe worth adding a dummy to the current version of the eclass so that ebuilds can be updated now, instead of suddenly all at once as soon as the new eclass is committed? And break a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-gfx/inkscape: ChangeLog inkscape-0.46-r1.ebuild

2008-03-16 Thread Petteri Räty
Dawid Węgliński kirjoitti: Sunday, 16 of March 2008 23:58:45 Mart Raudsepp wrote: On P, 2008-03-16 at 23:29 +0100, Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:51:12 +0100 Dawid Węgliński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not if COPYING file is inside $DOCS and is installed in the loop. Doing somet

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Rémi Cardona kirjoitti: Now, basically, if the portage metadata or QA people could tell me a way to figure *all* the ebuilds that inherit gnome2 *and* have a pkg_preinst() function somewhere (either in the ebuild or in an eclass somewhere) I'd really appreciate it, as I really don't want to r

Re: [gentoo-dev] bzr.eclass into Portage

2008-03-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Christian Faulhammer kirjoitti: Hi, in the Emacs overlay we imported the bzr.eclass from the xeffects overlay. In the near future Emacs development will switch from CVS to Bazaar and thus we need the new eclass in Portage to still provide our live ebuilds from app-editors/emacs-cvs. Question i

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-18 Thread Petteri Räty
Rémi Cardona kirjoitti: Petteri Räty a écrit : http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_a57bf5f459324975bae8843fe7cdf469.xml Sorry I didn't respond to you Petteri, but this is clearly missing packages. For sure, it's missing gnome-games which inherits both the gnome2 and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: RFC: New build types

2008-03-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Steve Long kirjoitti: I don't see how it would wreak more havoc than a novice using, eg ANT from Java which s/he is comfortable with, and then further having to learn BASH peculiarities when things don't fit with the eclass. But yeah, the fun is what attracts me to the idea more than anything.

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Ahmed Ammar (b33fc0d3)

2008-03-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Joining us from the land of the pyramids, we have Ahmed "b33fc0d3" Ammar. Although originally from Egypt, nowadays he lives in UK and studies Computer Engineering there. He will be joining us to help with Gnome and all sorts of miscellaneous packages. He says he enjoys a good debate so I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-apps/iproute2: ChangeLog iproute2-2.6.24.20080108.ebuild

2008-03-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:18:44 -0400 Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If it is something we want to move forward with, it should be introduced at the package manager level instead of being an in-tree package manager specific feature. cat /etc/paludis/hooks/ebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Auty kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: Defining required amount of activity for ebuild devs. I would like us to raise the required amount of activity for ebuild devs. Given that the low number of developers is ranked as our number one problem in Donnie's informal survey[1], taking any

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Wulf C. Krueger kirjoitti: On Wednesday, 02. April 2008 22:46:16 Petteri Räty wrote: How does having the average time between commits be at most a week sound and if it goes under that, undertakers will get a notification? It sounds like you're trying to get rid of someone. I don&#

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Auty kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: If you can't manage weekly commits, you can't respond to security issues either. I can see your point, I was more thinking about developers who have maybe one or two small packages that don't have many version bumps or bugs. They

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: I agree with the above point. Also, as I recall, both Pettery (betelgeuse) and Denis (calchan) have stated before that we no longer have any queue of people waiting on recruiters to join Gentoo. I'm not seeing an avalanche of new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen kirjoitti: On 02-04-2008 21:21:25 -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: Would it make more sense to just make a policy that failure to maintain packages that you're maintainer on will result in getting removed as the maintainer, with said packages going up for grabs? Devs who keep claim

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:35:20 + "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: True, but with some acls we could also have a different model where people worked on parts of the tree and where commit privileges didn't pose so many security risks. With the c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Chrissy Fullam kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty kirjoitti: I checked the current slacker script and it checks for having at least one commit in last 60 days. We could of course just change the slacker script to list the activity for everyone during the last 60 days and leave the interpretation to undertakers. Regards

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Pagano kirjoitti: On Monday 07 April 2008 04:37:18 pm Petteri Räty wrote: Petteri Räty kirjoitti: So I wrote a new slacker script that gets the active developers from LDAP and checks the activity for the last 60 days. One repoman commit should equal a couple entries on history but not

Re: [gentoo-dev] escaping variables in sed expressions

2008-04-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) kirjoitti: Hi list, it seems I have been using some fragile sed expression and I'd like to tap the collective wisdom for avoiding doing that in the future. dev-scheme/slib-3.1.5-r1 currently does sed "s_prefix = /usr/local/_prefix = ${D}/usr/_" -i Makefile to make it

Re: [gentoo-dev] What are blocks used for?

2008-04-16 Thread Petteri Räty
Mateusz A. Mierzwin'ski kirjoitti: Richard Freeman pisze: Mateusz A. Mierzwin'ski wrote: And I strongly suggest to leave old mechanism of portage, because we saw couple times what _GREAT_ automatic makes with distro - eg. Mandriva with all creators and cheap installer - couple apps not runnin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing .la files...

2008-04-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Luca Barbato kirjoitti: Alistair Bush wrote: ++. I actually have no problem with agreeing with it, currently my problem is the complete and utter lack of any _planned_ upgrade path. What do we think users are going to be saying at the end of the year when after every sync they have to revdep

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Removing .la files...

2008-04-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò kirjoitti: Probably the best thing would be to get a better tool than revdep-rebuild to handle broken .la files, as revdep-rebuild forces a timewasting rebuild, while a good fix could be just a sed -i -e 's:/usr/lib\(64\)\?/lib\(.*\).la:-l\2:' on all the .la files, inst

Re: [gentoo-dev] DevRel policy update

2008-04-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Wulf C. Krueger kirjoitti: How to gain power the easy way and obsolete conflict resolution in just one commit: http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en/devrel/policy.xml?r1=1.18&r2=1.19 Please use the appropriate mailing list. Nothing technical here. This thread belong

OT: [gentoo-dev] Nazi symbols on Gentoo (and other offending content)

2008-04-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Santiago M. Mola kirjoitti: Thoughts? Isn't there anyone else willing to keep Nazi symbols outside forums? If yes, at the expense of punting all politics or just as a special case? Again this is the wrong mailing list. I don't see this thread having any technical content. Regards, Petteri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-util/lincvs

2008-05-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Pagano kirjoitti: Mike Pagano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (19 May 2008) Masked for removal in 30 days. Upstream has changed name to crossvc, which is available in the tree. (bug #213496) --- Mike Pagano Gentoo Developer - Kernel Project E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Josh Saddler kirjoitti: Łukasz Damentko wrote: Hi guys, Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009 are open now and will be open for the next two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2008). Now that nominations are officially open, I nominate the current council members (again): amne betelgeuse

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP56] USE flag descriptions in metadata

2008-06-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Doug Goldstein kirjoitti: All, Here's a GLEP for the addition of USE flag descriptions to package metadata. It does not address any future ideas that others may have had or suggested. It merely gives developers the necessary "tools" to document their USE flag usage it better detail on a per p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+="-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common"

2008-06-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis kirjoitti: I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the following flags: "-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common". -O1 enables some basic optimizations. > At least adding -O1 should not be problematic. I think vapier was already sugges

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+="-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common"

2008-06-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: On Saturday 28 June 2008, Petteri Räty wrote: Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis kirjoitti: I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the following flags: "-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common". -O1 enables some basic optimizations.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastriting dev-libs/libffi (replaced by USE libffi in gcc itself)

2008-07-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Albert Zeyer kirjoitti: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:35 +0200, Tiziano Müller wrote: Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 14:52 Thu 05 Jun , Samuli Suominen wrote: # Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (05 Jun 2008) # Masked for removal in ~30 days by treecleaners. # Replaced by USE libffi in sys-devel/

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: 0-day bump requests

2008-07-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Jeroen Roovers kirjoitti: - 1) How do you feel when you receive an early version bump request? I don't mind as I don't have the time to follow upstreams that closely for the hundreds of Java packages out there. 2) If you had your way, would you discourage users from filing early vers

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2008/2009 - RESULTS

2008-07-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Łukasz Damentko kirjoitti: Dear Gentoo Community, Here are your verified and long-awaited results. Gentoo Council for term 2008/2009 will be: Donnie Berkholz (dberkholz) Mark Loeser (Halcy0n) Diego Petteno (Flameeyes) Petteri Raty (Betelgeuse) Luca Barbato (lu_zero) Markus Ullmann (Jokey) Tobi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 July 2008

2008-07-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:16:23 -0700 "Alec Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As far as could be determined by the members at the meeting there no compelling examples in Gentoo who to change or add global scope functions in future EAPIs. As such those problems as stated

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: auto-detection of unpack dependencies

2008-07-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Marius Mauch kirjoitti: So, is this something ebuild maintainers would like in general, or does such a feature cause you nightmares? I have actually been thinking about writing support for this into the Java eclasses because most Java upstreams use .zip files and we need app-arch/unzip in D

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 July 2008

2008-07-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:58:01 +0300 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes I can think a lot of features like this that would be of great use in the main tree but as long as Portage is the only official and stable package manager and doesn't support the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: auto-detection of unpack dependencies

2008-07-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:14:18 +0200 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As a result of Cardoes earlier mail we talked a bit about possible solutions in #gento-portage, and I suggested to let portage automatically inject the deps based on SRC_URI pattern matching. A

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: auto-detection of unpack dependencies

2008-07-18 Thread Petteri Räty
Marius Mauch kirjoitti: If someone wants to use it I can add it on the tree (after the normal review process and being better tested), but I'll only be doing it when there is an actual demand for it (no point in adding an eclass that nobody uses). I have been long thinking about adding suppor

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Should 'imlib' USE flag be on by default in x86 and amd64 desktop profiles?

2008-07-25 Thread Petteri Räty
Jim Ramsay kirjoitti: I've run into it a few times now that fluxbox users running Gentoo wonder why they can't get icons to work in the fluxbox menus. The short answer is that 'imlib' is off by default in many profiles, including default-linux/amd64/2007.0/desktop and default-linux/x86/2007.0/de

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jeeves IRC replacement now alive - Willikins

2008-08-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Robin H. Johnson kirjoitti: Hi folks, Sorry that it's taken this long to get completed, but the Jeeves replacement, Willikins, is finally 99% done, and ready to join lots of channels. Getting the bot out there - If you would like to have the new bot in your #gentoo-* cha

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default_* functions

2008-08-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Hi, Currently we have default_* functions implemented in portage(paludis has these too) which allow the default implementation of a particular phase to be called. Another handy function in the default_* series is function 'defaul

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] What features should be included in EAPI 2?

2008-08-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Zac Medico kirjoitti: * Default phase function implementations for older EAPIs are accessible via functions having names that start with 'eapi', followed by the EAPI value. What's the benefit of this feature? Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] best way to use profiles and package.use.mask?

2008-08-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Steve Dibb kirjoitti: > Are there ever any cases where we could just simply put the use flag as restricted in the global package.use.mask and then unrestrict them in the profiles ones if, for example, it only worked on one or a few arches? Or is the best policy always to mask it on each profil

Re: [gentoo-dev] best way to use profiles and package.use.mask?

2008-08-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Friedrich Oslage kirjoitti: Maybe we should ask Recruiters what most people answered to that eom-quiz question :) > I have been instructing people to adjust the files themselves. The changes affect only the package in question and as such it falls under the responsibility of the maintainer of

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] What features should be included in EAPI 2?

2008-08-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Zac Medico kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: Zac Medico kirjoitti: * Default phase function implementations for older EAPIs are accessible via functions having names that start with 'eapi', followed by the EAPI value. What's the benefit of this feature? In some ca

[gentoo-dev] News item: World file handling changes in Portage-2.2

2008-08-16 Thread Petteri Räty
. Unless objections come out the new news item will be committed at the same time as rc8 (rc8 will have an update man portage page describing world_sets). Title: World file handling changes in Portage-2.2 Author: Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Author: Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of poppler-0.8

2008-08-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Peter Alfredsen kirjoitti: Hi, It won't be long before I ask for poppler-0.8 and -bindings to be stabilized. This will bump the soname for poppler and force a rebuild of all packages depending on it. I've opened a tracker bug at http://bugs.gentoo.org/235897 where you can add a comment or plac

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] EAPI 2 Draft

2008-09-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Alec Warner kirjoitti: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David Leverton wrote: 2008/9/5 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Both approaches are essentially equivalent but it's a little simpler for ebuild writer if they don't have to customize the output file nam

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2

2008-09-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto kirjoitti: and cardoe's earlier request to the council ml, can the council members discuss this proposal and consider voting it? Does anyone have any objections to this proposal? I won't approve it for use in the tree before it's written as a GLEP in order to avoid

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2

2008-09-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:31:08 +0300 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto kirjoitti: and cardoe's earlier request to the council ml, can the council members discuss this proposal and consider voting it? Does anyone have any ob

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2

2008-09-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Zac Medico kirjoitti: Petteri Räty wrote: Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:31:08 +0300 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto kirjoitti: and cardoe's earlier request to the council ml, can the council members discuss this proposal a

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Glep 55 use case: moving slot to file name

2008-09-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Icedtea has two release tracks. One for the 1.7 OpenJDK code base and one for the 1.6 code base. They have independent version numbering so they can have collisions. By moving the slot to the file name we could have icedtea-1.2:1.6.ebuildN and icedtea-1.2:1.7.ebuildN. This particular situation

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Glep 55 use case: moving slot to file name

2008-09-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: On 14:56 Fri 12 Sep , Doug Goldstein wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: Icedtea has two release tracks. One for the 1.7 OpenJDK code base and one for the 1.6 code base. They have independent version numbering so they can have collisions. By moving the slot to the file

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Glep 55 use case: moving slot to file name

2008-09-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: On 22:21 Fri 12 Sep , Petteri Räty wrote: I do know how to get around it, I did state that in my original email. As it happens we are having a discussion on gentoo-java mailing list on whether we should use icedtea-..ebuild or have different packages for the

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2

2008-09-14 Thread Petteri Räty
David Leverton kirjoitti: On Thursday 11 September 2008 21:06:48 Doug Goldstein wrote: Tobias Scherbaum wrote: Luca Barbato wrote: I don't see any problems with it. +1 Tobias +1 Since this latest version hasn't generated any noticeable disagreement, could the Council please formally vo

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