On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 00:01:58 +0800
Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote:
Nobody's telling you _your_ system, as in the collection of programs
you use for your productivity, is broken. What we're saying is that
_the_ system, as in the general practice as compared to the
specification, is
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:01:17 -0600
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
And, what community is being divided? Fedora,OpenSuse, and Arch use
systemd by default.
From debian and hurd to slackware which will not touch systemd ever and
ubuntu and also embedded with the kernel working on
It was in fact a weirdo corner case
since day 1.
Right, a weirdo corner case that is part of best practice and the
default suggestion on debian stable used on many many servers and for
good reason.
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Are there any other cases, apart from emotional attachment based on
inertia, where a separate / and /usr are desirable? As I see it, there
is only the system, and it is an atomic unit.
You should really read the thread before posting.
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You are only considering the case of /usr being on a plain hard disk
partition, what if it in on an LVM volume, or encrypted (or both)
of mounted over the network? All of these require something to be
run before they can be mounted, and if that cannot be run until udev
has started, we
problem on gentoo.
Curious if anyone else uses e17/has this problem and maybe a fix. or
just for suggestions of where to look
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really? once upon a time I was told mounting / ro and /usr rw was a GOOD
THING
to do. I ignored that the same way I ignore it the other way round. With bind
mounting and stuff, you can make single directories rw.. so what is the
matter?
Ignorance is bliss, so good for you.
Only as root
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
with redhat's push to move everything into /usr - why not stop right there
and
move everything back into /?
I originally thought this way, but they actually reviewed the
technical and historical
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 05:46:33 +0800
Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote:
A concensus would be good. A right consensus is more likely to get a
consensus. This has no bearing on the matters at hand.
/usr as the default prefix for installed packages is the consensus
of the vast
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 00:09:50 +
Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
I certainly don't expect linux to solve these management problems,
quite the opposite in fact but I can hope.
I hope mentioning OpenBSD won't put anyone off but taking a leap out of
their book I feel could really
Surely not libs, those go
in /usr/lib or /lib. If it's variable data somehow related to libs
then someone needs to look up lib in a dictionary.
I have to say I was shocked a while back when I found /usr/bin/firefox
linking to a shell script at /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
I'd be interested if
Thankfully, I've never had to
maintain systems whose disks were small and low performing enough that
it actually mattered to separate / from /usr.
So you don't understand it much at all. Actually many of lennarts pages
such as his security.html are full of wildly incorrect claims and
://nileshgr.com
you actually can add routes on a local machine. the real trick would
be to have them pushed from the dd-wrt box so that they dont have to
be manually set each time
- -Kevin
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On 12/18/2012 09:14 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 10:39:43 PM IST, Kevin Brandstatter
wrote: On 12/18/2012 05:27 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 03:41:44 PM IST, J. Roeleveld
wrote:
On Tue
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On 12/18/2012 09:38 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 10:59:41 PM IST, Kevin Brandstatter
wrote: On 12/18/2012 09:14 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 10:39:43 PM IST, Kevin
Brandstatter wrote: On 12
So, since I have /usr separate from the rest, I could mount it read only
and reduce the chance of corruption if say my UPS failed? I already do
this for /boot. Interesting. Very interesting indeed.
If the other issues happen, computers is likely the least of our
problems. ;-)
Or if
based git tools to host your
own private repository. For the rest im not too sure since I don't know
what your requirements are of the various bits.
- -Kevin
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more than a glorified irc system. IRC is perfectly fine if your on a
closed network. but i would keep it off the general internet.
resource and task management, i think eclipse and some ides have
integrated solutions, outside of that not really sure
- -Kevin
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and some ides have
integrated solutions, outside of that not really sure
- -Kevin
irc servers are notorious for botnets and the like and yes, are often
a prime target for remote exploitation. they can be secured like the
major systems, but it can be a bit more of a challenge
- -Kevin
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on the fiber?
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On 12/17/2012 07:44 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 09:09:16 AM IST, Kevin Brandstatter
wrote:
On 12/17/2012 07:26 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
Hi,
I'm stuck with a routing issue:
I have a DD-WRT router, which has
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On 12/17/2012 08:00 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 09:24:41 AM IST, Kevin Brandstatter
wrote:
On 12/17/2012 07:44 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 09:09:16 AM IST, Kevin
Brandstatter wrote
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:32:24 +0200
nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva) wrote:
My thanks, too! There's nothing like reading on some actual experience
with this. So this was once the reason to keep / separate. Not that
important anymore (but this is still no excuse to force people to keep
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 11:18:25 +0100
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
It should be moving in the other direction for stability reasons and
busybox is no full answer.
On OpenBSD which has the benefit of userland being part of it. All
the critical single user binaries
Doesn't a good cloud server also have potentially higher availability
compared to dedicated?
Perhaps at your price point through redundancy which could be applied
to dedicated all be it at higher cost and so potentially still more
reliable and certainly more secure and also tested in almost any
guaruntees 99.95% uptime. whereas dedicated
servers or VPSs can generally offer between 99,99% and 99.% (depending
on who it is).
-Kevin Brandstatter
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.netwrote:
Am 14.12.2012 11:00, schrieb Grant:
Would everyone here be in favor
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:53:35 -0800
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess the other question that's lurking here for me is why do you
have /usr on a separate partition? What's the usage model that drives
a person to do that? The most I've ever done is move /usr/portage and
/usr/src
I don't think that's right. I have a Pandaboard ES with a dual-core 1.2Ghz
CPU and 1GB RAM and I bet it would run Gnome just fine. Again, maybe
you're referring to something here that I'm not familiar with.
I think the key word was micro, but is that off topic (ignoring
subject)?
Many (such
I can send you the source code if you want. Likewise to any other
interested reader
Send to me please, Thanks
--
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'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work
together. Write programs to
mount them and see whats there?
also, what order did you mount them in? it may make a difference
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:48 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
Well I have a gentoo system I'm trying to recover.
I've got it booted up via systemrescue.
I do not have a copy of the
I've had the same problem.
it seems setting DARK=true in .eixrc fixes the problem of the almost black
on black background for me
-Kevin
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote
no have you installed the networkmanager-openconnect plugin?
as a side note, i solved the problem by reloading the dbus service which
fixed the permissions issued i was having
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Patrick Holthaus
patrick.holth...@uni-bielefeld.de wrote:
Hey Kevin,
Sorry, I
coorect, you could concievable run something like
ebuild ebuildname qmerge if all the steps have been completed
-Kevin
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:45:10 +0100
Willie WY Wong wong...@member.ams.org wrote:
Hi list
where to look.
any ideas would be appreciated.
-Kevin B
ive had my own issues with the gstreamer libs.
but its with rebuilding, for some reason its failing saying there isnt a
make file
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Silvio Siefke siefke_lis...@web.de wrote:
Hello,
i run update and by gstreamer i become the error message:
Source compiled.
I would suggest using threads
-Kevin B
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:35 PM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.auwrote:
ok, major update time and I am again in a bind with the threads use
flag.
PHP wants it, or doesnt and so does/doesnt apache and they wont play
nice. So if I have to go back
well i guess it depends if your using php that takes advantage of
concurrency. If you dont then threads arent necessary,
for apache i would recommend threads because it does make use of them.
Kevin B
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 5:13 PM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.auwrote:
why? - threads
The values of ../by-uuid/ would probably be
equally good, but I don't know how to find them any more than I know how to
find the serials...
I use my own automounter scripts and udev with nice static mountpoints
from when udisks threw lots away for a while in favour of multiseat. A
recurring
LESS='-F' to have less always do the above.
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http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
Bruceville, TX
What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:38 on Saturday 28 May 2011, Daniel da
Veiga
did opine thusly:
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 20:28, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com
wrote:
It looks like it's time to take Gentoo
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 5:59 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/26/2011 04:28 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
Now, a couple of months into my retirement
...
in 2002 when I finished my PHD
Retiring 9 years after finishing your education?
Nice to know that somebody can do the math :o).
I
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Stroller
strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.ukwrote:
On 27/5/2011, at 12:28am, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
...
* Two XEON chips. I didn't know it right away but that means 4 cores.
They are old Pentium IV-based 32-bit chips. I got the slowest still being
made, so
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote:
Am Thu, 26 May 2011 16:28:46 -0700
schrieb Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com:
It looks like it's time to take Gentoo off of my main machine. I feel a
little sad about it, or I'd just quietly go away.
A few months ago
, and the occasional mess-up
that once or twice led me to rebuild with empty-tree and took a week or so.
So I guess I shouldn't complain (and I'm not). I'm just not in the target
market for Gentoo any more. It was fun, though.
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On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Mark Shields laebsh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.comwrote:
It looks like it's time to take Gentoo off of my main machine. I feel a
little sad about it, or I'd just quietly go away.
A few months ago
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Sebastian Beßler sebast...@darkmetatron.de
wrote:
Am 19.05.2011 04:09, schrieb Kevin O'Gorman:
I've been using dev-util/lafilefixer ever since I learned about it. Now
I've bumped into a thread whose latest posts suggests that it is now
obsolete
some packages that are hardwired for one reason or
another. Some search engine results suggest this may be true, but they're
mostly old. Is this still and permanently true?
If so, why is it still in portage and no mention of its obsolesence in the
elogs?
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, etc etc.
[snippage]
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
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be made into a feature request. What does the
list think? If there's support I will log it.
+1 It bit me, and just seems stupid.
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the timezone and UTC/local settings for you clock, but
you also have to make sure it is set. Unfortunately, adding this
specific problem to a FAQ is problematic because there are dozens of
errors and problems that can come from a mis-set clock. It would be
difficult to cover them all.
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resolve
the proxy ''.
While bash arrays probably aren't required for this, the following seems
to work OK:
curl_opts=(-x )
curl $url -d \mydata\ ${curl_opts[@]}
But I'm sure there's a quotes-only solution, too.
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maintainers and see if I can help get
Arduino up-to-date in Portage...
[1] http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Linux/Gentoo
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is
happening.
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On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 03:25:31PM -0300, Rafael Barrera Oro wrote:
2011/5/6 Kevin McCarthy sign...@gentoo.org
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 01:45:01PM -0300, Rafael Barrera Oro wrote:
Attached to this message are the contents of the afforementioned file,
thanks for the help!!!
This seems
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 10:45:31PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
Kevin, can you upload your PGP/GPG key to a public keyserver, otherwise
the only point of signing your mails is to cause mailers to slow down
while trying to check a signature against an unavailable key.
I know what you mean. I
sense out of what happens with 'reload' and it always happens.
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of the livedvd to help me in this,
as wicd was among the broken things and i couldn't connect to the net to
download the required packages to update python.
so thanks everyone for the hints that led me to the solution and particular
thanks to helmut, alan, kevin and stroller.
i'll follow your
apache apache158 Jan 22 03:10 ssl_request_log-20110122.gz
-rw-rw-rw- 1 apache apache197 Jan 30 03:10 ssl_request_log-20110130.gz
-rw-rw-rw- 1 apache apache103 Feb 6 03:10 ssl_request_log-20110206.gz
treat apache2 #
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On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay, there was already a thread about that, and my Python problem seems
solved. I still have no log entries.
Ok, as root, try lsof | grep
, and no special logfile paths, so it seems it must use the
default.
However in /var/log/apache2 I find log files that have not been touched
since February.
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On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 23:04:35 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
I just noticed a failure in a dynamic web page that I haven't touched
in years. So I looked in
/var/log/apache2 and found that no files have been touched
ncurses
readline ssl threads tk wide-unicode xml -build -doc -elibc_uclibc -examples
-sqlite -wininst)
Homepage:http://www.python.org/
I'm right now trying to see if eselect python set 3 will let emerge, vim
and tar run again. 3 is version 2.7.
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On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Davide Carnovale
francesco.davide.carnov...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/5/2 Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de
On 05/02/2011 05:38:03 PM, Davide Carnovale wrote:
Hi all!
i
.
that would be python-updater.
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On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 23:04:35 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
I just noticed a failure in a dynamic web page that I haven't touched
in years. So
(it's a feature not commonly used). I want to
find out the exact error
from my CGI program (the web error says the system logs will have more
info but they don't).
How do I find out where/if Apache thinks its logging things?
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--justfixit
-perl-cleaner all
-locale-gen --keep --quiet
You have to be prepared to respond to dispatch-conf, but the others run to
completion by themselves.
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an' a man can raise a thirst
from Mandalay by Rudyard Kipling
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monitor and all.
The only thing to dislike is that the machine does not have an indicator LED
for caps lock -- on Win 7 it uses an on-screen icon each time the status
changes.
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setting in /etc/slim.conf.
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want to emerge too. While optional, it should give zeitgeist more data
to work with, so you may want to emerge -av zeitgeist-datahub too.
Please open a bug at bugs.gentoo.org if you have any issues with it.
Enjoy.
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On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com
wrote:
I just ran emerge -p --depclean and the only thing it wants to remove
is
gentoo-sources-2.6.35-r12. So my system's pretty clean, but I'm quite
use
K3B a lot.
I don't see any use flags to change with respect to k3b, so I'm feeling I''m
missing something.
Help?
++ kevin
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com
wrote:
I don't really want it, but my system still has hal installed.
According to equery depends, it seems that there are still two packages
picked on this one of the five?
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but does not disclose which process is
listening.
Does anybody know how to find this out?
++ kevin
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On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote:
Eeek!!
Just fooling around with some software on my laptop, I found that my Gentoo
desktop has an even dozen open inet ports with something listening to them,
in addition to the ones I would expect (25, 80 and so
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:18 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
On 2010-12-13 22:08, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
Netstat agrees that they're open but does not disclose which process is
listening.
Does anybody know how to find this out?
netstat only lists listening processes when you're root
ImportError: No module named set
Are you sure it's even it gentoolkit? I have that but no auditworld on x86.
It's not in gentoolkit-dev either.
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an emerge -e and regretted it. It kept
stopping because something wasn't
configured right, and I had to go through dispatch-conf on everything up to
that point before I could get it to
proceed. Good luck with your few days. Mine was more like 2 weeks of
stop-and-go.
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On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:47 PM, kashani kashani-l...@badapple.net wrote:
On 11/15/2010 8:37 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
Color me stupid. It was stopped. It started when I told it to in
/etc/init.d.
Now I have to wonder what stopped it. Judging from the mail that got
through all
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:57:42 -0800, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
I don't even know where to start on this.
I'd start by looking at the logs, I think Postfix logs to syslog by
default. The first question is is it even
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.eduwrote:
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 09:57:42PM -0800, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
Some time ago, it appears, postfix stopped working for me. I am no
longer
able
to use it to send mail (usually to my ISP, where it gets routed
a shove in the
right direction. I'm pretty good at this, but I only configured Postfix
once and it
was a long time ago.
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-rtc.htmlhttp://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/%7Emgk25/mswish/ut-rtc.html
--
Regards,
Mick
You guys had me scared for a bit. But I'm in the USA, where the change
happens in
the morning of the first Sunday in November, which will be the 7th.
I can wait.
++ kevin
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does not include the DISPLAY variable, and it
happens to work fine that way. Try just keeping HOME.
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into root if something goes wrong in
bootup: with this in mind, I need a root PW anyway, until that bottleneck
gets fixed.
The above form is actually only used in a debugging mode I've defined, and
is silent otherwise.
++ kevin
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On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.ukwrote:
On 25 Sep 2010, at 03:17, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
...
I've heard good things about it, but I'm under the impression it is
not free (as in beer). Is that true?
I don't know but I can emerge -q icc
on Ubuntu let
alone Vista, which makes me take your suggestion about build parameters
seriously.
++ kevin
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On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.comwrote:
On 09/24/10 09:48, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.comwrote:
On 09/22/10 07:31, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Monday 20 September 2010 16:38:05 Paul Hartman wrote
.
Wouldn't that be kind of senseless since the source code is distributed?
Knowing it would not be hard to bypass the activation key, if they wanted
money for it they wouldn't let the source code out, license or no license.
Just my $.02
++ kevin
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to jump back to 4.4 but if
someone can confirm this fixes the issue, I'd certainly be greatful!
I'm still at 4.3.4, and having these problems. I wouldn't be holding my
breath for a silver bullet. I'm writing this on chormium, having just given
up on Opera for being slow as FF. Sigh.
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On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 3:02 AM, András Csányi sayusi.a...@gmail.comwrote:
On 19 September 2010 10:09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:28 on Sunday 19 September 2010, András
Csányi did opine thusly:
On 19 September 2010 00:14, Kevin
not
help to clear the profiles (rename ~/.mozilla) and re-emerge.
Grr.
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is doing. For me, case
closed and I can go back to doing what I want.
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to wherever
you
like. I yet another gmail account like that for some specific sensitive
traffic that I
want semi-anonymous. I'm sure there are other free accounts that can do the
same.
Save your money for the things you really need.
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big /tmp (mine has 19GB free at the moment), and
to keep
using the same name in case you forget to delete the (possibly huge) file.
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however you like.
If using less(1) or more(1), I would do it this way
emerge -NDpvu world 21 | less
under the bash shell.
There are a lot of advantages to less, but perhaps the most important is
that you can scroll backwards if you've gone too far -- you don't have to
start over.
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