Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Saturday 10/15/11 00:05:35 CST, Lavender wrote: > It's my fault, there're no line-breaks because I wrote the letters > exactly like what the screenshot shows . I will write just like > this letter. No more questions , good evening and tomorrow is > a nice day ! > A little tip about your mail

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On 10/15/2011 4:42 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Which one? That /var is not going into /? It's not disinformation, it is th true. If not, please be so kind of showin one single developer reference that says so. One. Single. One. Email, blog post, wiki, you choose it. But one single one. I d

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:46:31 -0300, Claudio Roberto França Pereira wrote: > Wow. Just wow. > > GREAT way to confuse and welcome the poor-English Chinese guy. Good point. Sorry Lavender, please feel free to start another thread... which may or may not get hijacked. > Please ignore all the FUD an

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

Hi Canek, On Saturday, 15. October 2011 04:04:05 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > I got that points wrong, I admit. I repeat, 3am here ;) I apogolize > for saying that to you Michael; I shouldn't have, even if I would have > been right (and I wasn't). Again, no excuse, but it's (actually) 4am > here n

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

Hi Claudio, hi Lavender, On Saturday, 15. October 2011 13:46:31 Claudio Roberto França Pereira wrote: > Wow. Just wow. :) > GREAT way to confuse and welcome the poor-English Chinese guy. > Welcome Lavender. You are now officially recognized as a human being, not a > bot. > We'll be glad to help

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Saturday, October 15, 2011 03:34:27 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:47:26 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > On

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:34:10 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > I noticed the other day that when LVM tries to start, it fails. I have > > /var on a separate partition here. It was complaining about something > > on /var missing. So, you may be late in reporting this. I think it is > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Dale wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: I would. But given the way udev people "solve" those issues, I don't. If something on /var is needed during boot in the next ten

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

Wow. Just wow. GREAT way to confuse and welcome the poor-English Chinese guy. Welcome Lavender. You are now officially recognized as a human being, not a bot. We'll be glad to help you with Gentoo. Please ignore all the FUD and discussion about /var needing (or not) to be in the root partition,

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On 2011-10-15 11:02, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > Yes, as I said in my last mail, if you need LVM, you need an > initramfs. Remove the LVM, and you can have /var (and /usr for that > matter) withouth an initramfs. Where/when did I say something > different? I assume you mean: "if you need LVM fo

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:34:10 -0700 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > It basically removes the need for a "pesky init* thingy", although for > the life of me I cannot understand why someone will not see the > technical advantages of actually using an initramfs. I'll use your own opening comment as a r

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:34:10 -0700 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > /var != /var/run > /var != /var/lock > > /var/run is going in /run, but /var/run (by definition) only contains > things like PID files and runtime sockets. In the same vein, /var/lock > also is going into /run/lock. I have acknowled

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:31:24 +0100 schrieb Neil Bothwick : > On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 03:10:37 -0700, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > It's arbitrary (basically) on executables and libraries. If an > > script needs something more (from /var, lets say), then the rule > > should be written in such a way

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 03:10:37 -0700, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > It's arbitrary (basically) on executables and libraries. If an script > needs something more (from /var, lets say), then the rule should be > written in such a way that it can be called after that directory is > mounted. If you try t

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:45 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 03:34:27 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer > wrote: >> > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:47:26 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:34 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer > wrote: >> On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:47:26 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer >> wrote: >>> > On Saturday, 15. Octobe

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Saturday, 15. October 2011 03:34:27 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:47:26 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > On Sat

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:47:26 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer > wrote: >> > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:11:43 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:53 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:34:10 -0700, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> /var != /var/run >> /var != /var/lock >> >> /var/run is going in /run, but /var/run (by definition) only contains >> things like PID files and runtime sockets. In the same ve

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:47:26 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:11:43 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > On Sat

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Dale wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer >>  wrote: >>> >>> I would. But given the way udev people "solve" those issues, I don't. >>> If something on /var is needed during boot in the next ten years, the

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:34:10 -0700, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > /var != /var/run > /var != /var/lock > > /var/run is going in /run, but /var/run (by definition) only contains > things like PID files and runtime sockets. In the same vein, /var/lock > also is going into /run/lock. I have acknowled

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:21:18 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer > wrote: >> > Hi Canek, >> > >> > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:02:13 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> O

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:11:43 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer > wrote: >> > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 01:42:10 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> > /var/lib usually st

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: I would. But given the way udev people "solve" those issues, I don't. If something on /var is needed during boot in the next ten years, they will propose to move it to /. They do it with /run, they do it

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:21:18 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > Hi Canek, > > > > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:02:13 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Dale wrote: > >> > Canek Peláez Valdés

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:11:43 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 01:42:10 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> > /var/lib usually stores whole > >> > databases. The difference is important and relevant.

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > Hi Canek, > > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:02:13 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Dale wrote: >> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale  wrote: >> >>> Pandu Poluan

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

Hi Canek, On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:02:13 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Dale wrote: > > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale wrote: > >>> Pandu Poluan wrote: > >>> > >>> On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" wrote: > Neil

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 01:42:10 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> > /var/lib usually stores whole >> > databases. The difference is important and relevant." > >> My systems has directories alsa, bluetooth, hp and many more >> ther

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Dale wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale  wrote: >>> >>> Pandu Poluan wrote: >>> >>> On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale"  wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:15:24 -0500, Dale wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Saturday, 15. October 2011 01:42:10 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > /var/lib usually stores whole > > databases. The difference is important and relevant." > My systems has directories alsa, bluetooth, hp and many more > there that are not databases at all. > > So? > Which one? That /var is not

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > Hi Canek, Hi Michael. > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 00:50:22 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés > wrote: >> > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale wrote: >> >> Pandu Poluan wro

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale wrote: Pandu Poluan wrote: On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:15:24 -0500, Dale wrote: A'right now. I'm going to start on hal and /usr being on / again. :-P Jeez, 43 years

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

Hi Canek, On Saturday, 15. October 2011 00:50:22 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale wrote: > >> Pandu Poluan wrote: > >> > >> On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" wrote: > >>> Neil Bothwick wrote: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale wrote: >> Pandu Poluan wrote: >> >> On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" wrote: >>> >>> Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:15:24 -0500, Dale wrote: > A'right now.  I'm goi

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale wrote: > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" wrote: >> >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:15:24 -0500, Dale wrote: >>> A'right now.  I'm going to start on hal and /usr being on / again.  :-P >>> >>> Jeez, 43 years

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Oct 15, 2011 1:58 PM, "Dale" wrote: > > Pandu Poluan wrote: >> >> >> On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" wrote: >> > >> > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:15:24 -0500, Dale wrote: >> >> >> >>> A'right now. I'm going to start on hal and /usr being on / again. :-P >> >> >> >

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Pandu Poluan wrote: On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" > wrote: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:15:24 -0500, Dale wrote: >> >>> A'right now. I'm going to start on hal and /usr being on / again. :-P >> >> Jeez, 43 years on and you're still goi

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" wrote: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:15:24 -0500, Dale wrote: >> >>> A'right now. I'm going to start on hal and /usr being on / again. :-P >> >> Jeez, 43 years on and you're still going on about it... >> >> > > Dang, I was only a year old w

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Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:15:24 -0500, Dale wrote: A'right now. I'm going to start on hal and /usr being on / again. :-P Jeez, 43 years on and you're still going on about it... Dang, I was only a year old when hal came out? That just doubled my age. It's closer to wh

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:15:24 -0500, Dale wrote: > A'right now. I'm going to start on hal and /usr being on / again. :-P Jeez, 43 years on and you're still going on about it... -- Neil Bothwick "Be strict when sending and tolerant when receiving." RFC 1958 - Architectural Principles of the

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Michael Mol wrote: Hey, we've all got lives outside this mailing list. Except Dale, perhaps. :) A'right now. I'm going to start on hal and /usr being on / again. :-P Dale :-) :-)

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: 2011年10月14日(星期五) 晚上11:52 收件人: "gentoo-user"; 主题: Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional On Fri, Oct 14, 82011 at 11:43 AM, Lavender <448463...@qq.com> wrote: > First of all I think I should apologize for my poor English , you must be > very p

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On Fri, Oct 14, 82011 at 11:43 AM, Lavender <448463...@qq.com> wrote: > First of all I think I should apologize for my poor English , you must be > very painful to read my letters. > I'm a Chinese student and my English is not very well , actually  it's suck. > So I will pay attention to making > l

[gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

First of all I think I should apologize for my poor English , you must be very painful to read my letters. I'm a Chinese student and my English is not very well , actually it's suck. So I will pay attention to making letters more clear to understand. To be honest, I'm not good at writing e-ma