[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

On 2018-04-04 19:12, Wol's lists wrote: > Different horses, different courses. I believe the indent was dropped > to save a keystroke, so why the double-space is there (requiring an > extra keystroke) I don't know. > > And why use secretarial style when you're typesetting? One is for > letters,

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On 02/04/18 21:50, Philip Webb wrote: 180402 Dale wrote: After each period at the end of a sentence, I put in two spaces, not one. Something I was taught years ago somewhere and still do. I only put one after a comma tho. That is correct professional secretarial style, which I always follow

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On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 08:21:17AM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote > On 2018-04-02 03:59, Dale wrote: > > > That last bit should read can NOT win. Brain didn't quite make it all > > the way to keyboard. lol > > I read it as beautifully subtle sarcasm, so it worked fine as it was. > > BTW, your mails

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Am Dienstag, 3. April 2018, 11:02:32 CEST schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Tue, 03 Apr 2018 09:28:40 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > After each period at the end of a sentence, I put in two spaces, > > > > not one. Something I was taught years ago somewhere and still do. > > > > I only put one

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On Tue, 03 Apr 2018 09:28:40 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > After each period at the end of a sentence, I put in two spaces, > > > not one. Something I was taught years ago somewhere and still do. > > > I only put one after a comma tho. > > > > That is correct professional secretarial

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On Monday, 2 April 2018 21:50:30 BST Philip Webb wrote: > 180402 Dale wrote: > > After each period at the end of a sentence, I put in two spaces, not one. > > Something I was taught years ago somewhere and still do. > > I only put one after a comma tho. > > That is correct professional

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Philip Webb wrote: > 180402 Dale wrote: >> After each period at the end of a sentence, I put in two spaces, not one. >> Something I was taught years ago somewhere and still do. >> I only put one after a comma tho. > That is correct professional secretarial style, which I always follow too. > >>

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180402 Dale wrote: > After each period at the end of a sentence, I put in two spaces, not one. > Something I was taught years ago somewhere and still do. > I only put one after a comma tho. That is correct professional secretarial style, which I always follow too. > Could that be triggering

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Martin Vaeth wrote: > Daniel Frey wrote: >> On 04/02/18 08:21, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >>> BTW, your mails are full of strange space characters >> I don't see any extra spaces in Dale's message > After every "." there is a non-breakable space inserted. > I guess this is an attempt

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180402 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2018-04-02 08:26, Daniel Frey wrote: >> I don't see any extra spaces in Dale's message, you should also >> probably check your local configuration. > They render fine for me in mutt/neomutt, too. Same here. > I can only see the strange spaces in my editor (emacs

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

Daniel Frey wrote: > On 04/02/18 08:21, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> >> BTW, your mails are full of strange space characters > > I don't see any extra spaces in Dale's message After every "." there is a non-breakable space inserted. I guess this is an attempt of some editor to

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

On 2018-04-02 08:26, Daniel Frey wrote: > I don't see any extra spaces in Dale's message, you should also > probably check your local configuration. They render fine for me in mutt/neomutt, too. I can only see the strange spaces in my editor (emacs 24) when I start replying to him and quote his

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On 04/02/18 08:21, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2018-04-02 03:59, Dale wrote: > >> That last bit should read can NOT win. Brain didn't quite make it all >> the way to keyboard. lol > > I read it as beautifully subtle sarcasm, so it worked fine as it was. > > BTW, your mails are full of strange

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

On 2018-04-02 03:59, Dale wrote: > That last bit should read can NOT win. Brain didn't quite make it all > the way to keyboard. lol I read it as beautifully subtle sarcasm, so it worked fine as it was. BTW, your mails are full of strange space characters - I didn't investigate if they're some

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On 02/04/18 13:41, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> Bill Kenworthy wrote: >>> I use the palemoon overlay. >> There is also the octopus overlay. >> Anyway, both can only react to upstream. >> >>> builds fine with gcc-6.4 >> Yes, but it has

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Walter Dnes wrote: > Mind you, the Pale Moon team may not > have the staffing level required to write a new compiler, maintain a > politically correct "community", integrate real-time-chat into the > browser, integrate "Pocket" into the browser, rewrite the GUI every so >

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On 02/04/18 13:41, Martin Vaeth wrote: > Bill Kenworthy wrote: >> I use the palemoon overlay. > There is also the octopus overlay. > Anyway, both can only react to upstream. > >> builds fine with gcc-6.4 > Yes, but it has random crashes which do not occur with gcc-5, > and as

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On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 05:41:03AM +, Martin Vaeth wrote I don't speak officially for Pale Moon. See https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=4=7818 for the official word about the manpower situation. Mind you, the Pale Moon team may not have the staffing level required to write a new

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tu...@posteo.de wrote: > On 04/02 05:41, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> Bill Kenworthy wrote: >>> I use the palemoon overlay. >> There is also the octopus overlay. >> Anyway, both can only react to upstream. >> >>> builds fine with gcc-6.4 >> Yes, but it has random crashes which do

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On 04/02 08:23, Martin Vaeth wrote: > tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > On 04/02 05:41, Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> It seems currently that mozilla, google, and apple are the only > >> oranganizations with enough resources to maintain full browsers, > >> and any forks of their browsers

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

tu...@posteo.de wrote: > On 04/02 05:41, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> It seems currently that mozilla, google, and apple are the only >> oranganizations with enough resources to maintain full browsers, >> and any forks of their browsers which diverge more than a patchset >> of

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On 04/02 05:41, Martin Vaeth wrote: > Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > I use the palemoon overlay. > > There is also the octopus overlay. > Anyway, both can only react to upstream. > > > builds fine with gcc-6.4 > > Yes, but it has random crashes which do not occur with gcc-5, >

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Bill Kenworthy wrote: > I use the palemoon overlay. There is also the octopus overlay. Anyway, both can only react to upstream. > builds fine with gcc-6.4 Yes, but it has random crashes which do not occur with gcc-5, and as somebody familiar with the code posted somewhere,

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On 02/04/18 08:28, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2018-04-01 18:22, Dale wrote: > >> Just for giggles, I tried to re-emerge palemoon. This is part of the >> output I got. >> >> * Supported GCC versions: 4.7, 4.9 >> * Selected GCC version: 6.4 > I no longer use the overlay; I have my own private ebuild

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On 2018-04-01 18:22, Dale wrote: > Just for giggles, I tried to re-emerge palemoon. This is part of the > output I got. > > * Supported GCC versions: 4.7, 4.9 > * Selected GCC version: 6.4 I no longer use the overlay; I have my own private ebuild series. I tried to remove the old gcc

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I've been using Palemoon, built with gcc/6.40-r1, for about a month now with only two crashes that I can think of. Otherwise it has been doing everything I need in a browser and I'm very happy with it. I still keep Firefox around, but rarely fire it up anymore. I am curious, however, what the

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Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2018-04-01 16:29, Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> An alarm sign for me was that palemoon was eventually dropped for >> android after being practically unmaintained (i.e. with known open >> security holes) for months/years. A similar alarm sign concerning >> linux is that they

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

On 2018-04-01 16:29, Martin Vaeth wrote: > An alarm sign for me was that palemoon was eventually dropped for > android after being practically unmaintained (i.e. with known open > security holes) for months/years. A similar alarm sign concerning > linux is that they were not able to pull the

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2018-04-01 09:15, Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> noscript, ublock-origin, and https-everywhere (maybe for privacy also >> coupled with decentraleyes, duckduckgo{-privacy-esesntials}, >> canvasblocker, skip-redirect) I had forgottten to mention: These

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

On 2018-04-01 09:15, Martin Vaeth wrote: > If you speak about defenses like noscript, there are safer variants > available. I guess the usage of the already mentioned user.js (of > course adapted to your needs) together with current Webextensions > noscript, ublock-origin, and https-everywhere

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2018-03-31 08:18, Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> As usual, there is the balance >> "convenience" (old plugins) <-> "security". >> In the beginning (say, until firefox-52 is no longer supported >> upstream), there is a certain choice. But after that

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On 2018-03-31 08:18, Martin Vaeth wrote: > As usual, there is the balance > "convenience" (old plugins) <-> "security". > In the beginning (say, until firefox-52 is no longer supported > upstream), there is a certain choice. But after that staying on the > "convenience" side is not sane

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tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > There two reasons for which I have switched to waterfox: Privacy and > memory. > > About:config and search for "telemetry" Telemetry can be switched off. > Or check how many URLS are configured under about:config. It is in "about:config", so they can

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On 03/31 12:17, Arve Barsnes wrote: > On 31 March 2018 at 10:18, Martin Vaeth wrote: > > Exceptions are only certain well-defined APIs which will presumably > > not change dramatically in future versions. > > For instance, there is a tab API, but essentially it is limited > > to

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On 31 March 2018 at 10:18, Martin Vaeth wrote: > Exceptions are only certain well-defined APIs which will presumably > not change dramatically in future versions. > For instance, there is a tab API, but essentially it is limited > to basic things like

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Dale wrote: > > I been holding off on upgrading Firefox. Basically, it breaks addons > that I just can't go without. Tab groups and some other tab utilities > are among them. Basically the situation is the following: >=firefox-57 support so-called WebExtensions which