Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Java Version

2007-08-27 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Thufir escribió:

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:41:49 +0200, Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:

  

How do I get the plugin into Firefox? I have the USE flag in place, and
a 32 and 64 bit plugin appears available, but still nothing shows for
about:plugins.

  

The fetch restriction appears when downloading its documentation, not
the jvm itself; if you don't have doc use flag enabled for jvm you won't
download it, and hence, you won't experience its fetch restrictions.



I wasn't aware of this.  If ufed is properly configured, then the JVM is 
directly fetched?  :)




-Thufir

  
You may have a misunderstanding here. The fetch restriction doesn't mean 
it's not properly configured, it just means that its configuration 
implies some special conditions to download some packages. Concerning 
jdk, see the difference between have doc use flag enabled or disabled:


*
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ USE=-doc emerge -pv jdk

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  NS   ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02  USE=-X -alsa -doc -examples 
-jce -nsplugin 0 kB

[ebuild  NS   ] virtual/jdk-1.6.0  0 kB
*
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ USE=doc emerge -pv jdk

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N F  ] dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.6.0-r1  53,612 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02  USE=doc -X -alsa -examples 
-jce -nsplugin 0 kB

[ebuild  NS   ] virtual/jdk-1.6.0  0 kB
*

If you want docs you have to merge the package dev-java/java-sdk-docs. 
However, to download that package you must accept a license by Sun, 
that's why you can't download it directly through Portage.


Taking a look at the following link may help you as well:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Fetch_Restrictions

HTH,
Abraham

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Re: [gentoo-user] no shorewall

2007-08-27 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, W.Kenworthy wrote:

 No problems on multiple systems built using oldconfig and not rebuilding
 iptables.
OK, that means it's not some problem related with gentoo-sources
patches.
 
 In the kernel I turn everything on by default and build it modular -
 this might be the cause for you?
 
I don't think so. I have everything as module. Some modules (very few,
related to hw I don't have) I didn't select, but they were never needed
with former kernel versions...

Thanks.

Jorge
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Re: [gentoo-user] building a box for Gentoo (update)

2007-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Philip Webb,

  OTOH, I do have a couple of words of caution about the Motherboard.
  The new Intel chipsets do not provide an IDE controller
  so motherboard manufacturers have to go get a 3rd party IDE/PATA
  controller if they want that support on their Intel motherboards.  
 
 My new HDD wb SATA : does that need an IDE controller ?
 There wb a DVD/CD-RW drive too : perhaps that might need one ?
 It's not an issue I've encountered before.
 
  Most of the manufacturers seem to have gone with JMicron's controller,
  but my experience with it so far has been  rather frustrating.
  Supposedly its drivers have been in the mainline kernel since 2.6.18
  but it's been pretty flaky for me when I had to deal with it

I have an Asus P5B-E with the JMicron controller. I used in only for a
couple of DVD-RW drives and have had no problems at all. My hard drives
are all SATA and while there is a SATA port on the JMicron controller, I
haven't used it as there are six other SATA ports on this board, on the
Intel controller.


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Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies from eclass and from ebuild

2007-08-27 Thread David Bonnafous
Hi,

Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Friday 24 August 2007 18:24:33 David Bonnafous wrote:
 I'm working to get a stable portage overlay to keep ebuild and files
 I used to build my system.

 But even if I keep the ebuild and all the files needed, the command
 emerge --sync introduces some dependencies by modifying eclass.

 How can I know (localize) this kind of dependencies ?

 I found the first one using grep

   JAVA_PKG_PORTAGE_DEP==sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.7

 in eclass/java-utils-2.eclass (change from version 1.91 to 1.92)

 I didn't quite understand what this question is about. 

 Are you trying to figure out why that dependency were added?

No I am not trying to figure out why that dependency were added. I
think the gentoo developers have good reasons to do that in that way.

After a sync (see below what and how) when I try to re-merge a package
(same version) and emerge tell me that there is a dependency not
satified I would like to know where this dependency come from. Because
this is a new dependency, added after the sync by

- a mistake I do (wrong /etc/portage/package.mask)
- a minor revison (new CVS version) of a ebuild not so minor
- a modification of a eclass

And my question is how to know is this new dependency comme from
eclass, or more generaly what are the dependencies that come from
eclass ?

 What do you intend to do with this overlay?

I intend to be able to maintain for a long time a set of package
(ebuild and files) I use on my servers. I want to be able to recompile
them as I need even if gentoo developers remove them from the official
portage tree.

 Why do you sync at all?

In fact I have added --backup --backup-dir='/usr/local/portage' to
the rsync options. Then after a sync I have in /usr/local/portage all
the files that changed. So I clean up this tree (remove eclass
directory, redundant package ebuild,...).

Yours,


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Re: [gentoo-user] cdrom and usb automounting problem..

2007-08-27 Thread purple
ummm, anyone there who tried to help, just to let you know problem is solved
with this morning's emerge -NDuva world where new udev release (115)
apeared..i just casualy pluged stick and it was instanty automounted on
fstab defined point (/mnt/usb) as well as a cdrom with same instant mounting
few seconds from putting it in a rom..

im glad to have such power community willing to help individual under any
circumstances, once again thank yaall :)

long live gentoo :)



purple..


Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies from eclass and from ebuild

2007-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 24 August 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
 On Friday 24 August 2007 18:49:38 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  Sounds like you want to keep the old eclass around inside the
  overlay and let portage update ${PORTDIR}/eclass/* as it sees fit?
 
  I have this setup, I simply created an eclass directory in my
  overlay directory, added the ebuild to the overlay, and the ebuilds
  started using the overlay version of the eclass. Something like:
 
  /var/portage/local/alan/eclass/ is where I put my eclasses.

 Uh, that will cause the eclasses in ${PORTDIR} to be overshadowed
 (just like the same version of any ebuild in the overlay will
 overshadow the ebuilds in ${PORTDIR}. If you really want to keep two
 trees separate and use them both, you should use a package manager
 that has proper support for multiple repositories (like Paludis ;)...

Good point :-) I should add a caveat to what I said - my custom eclasses 
don't conflict with portage's and I make sure they have unique names. 
So I don't run into problems, but someone blindly following my post may 
well have name clashes and not know why.

Not that's out of the way, this sounds like a very good reason to start 
using paludis which I've had installed for a while and never used - 
mostly due to fear, nerves and a healthy dose of paranoia. One quick 
question first:

If I switch to paludis, is it relatively[1] easy to revert back to 
portage in the event of $UNKNOWN_REASON? (I'm really just looking for a 
yes or no here)

cheers

alan

[1] 'relative' is a relative term :-) If it's a similar order of 
magnitude as say the expat, xorg7 and gcc3.3 - 3.4 scenarios or 
mistakenly emerging busybox to / without symlinks on a production 
machine (yes, I did do that), then I'm happy to throw caution to 
the winds and deal with whatever happens/keep 2 broken pieces

-- 
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Pessimists say the glass is half empty,
Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be?

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alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za
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Re: [gentoo-user] building a box for Gentoo (update)

2007-08-27 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Montag 27 August 2007 05:44:55 schrieb Philip Webb:
 070826 Aaron Clark wrote:
  On 20-Aug-07, at 3:06 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
  (1bd) The mobo listed is described on the ASUS site under 'VGA' as
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100
integrated High-definition video processing
with maximum resolution 2048 x 1536 bpp @ 75 Hz ;
maximum shared memory 256 MB ; supports OpenGL 1.5, Pixel Shader 2.0
  . It appears that with this mobo I don't need a separate graphics card
  unless I want very high-performance gaming or similar;
  also, it uses open-source drivers (can anyone confirm?).
 
  I've only had experience with the Intel GMA 950, which Lspci lists
  as Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller:
  it's worked fantastic for me so far with the opensource driver
  on a Fedora 7 box.  In xorg.conf, the driver is intel instead of
  i810; iirc the intel driver is newer
  and has better support for the newer chipsets.

 I've taken a further look around  this deserves a new thread.
 Thanks for this info, which is also very useful.

  OTOH, I do have a couple of words of caution about the Motherboard.
  The new Intel chipsets do not provide an IDE controller
  so motherboard manufacturers have to go get a 3rd party IDE/PATA
  controller if they want that support on their Intel motherboards.

 My new HDD wb SATA : does that need an IDE controller ?
 There wb a DVD/CD-RW drive too : perhaps that might need one ?
 It's not an issue I've encountered before.

If you buy new drives, buy SATA. Although IDE is fast enough for optical 
drives, the cables block the airflow in your case and with SATA you don't 
need to think about hdparm tuning, jumpers and such like. 

Furthermore the next generation of mainboards might not have IDE controllers 
at all!

The drive you've listed in your original post is SATA. I've got the same and 
although I experienced some trouble (after trying udftools it did no longer 
react to any commands) it should work out of the box. 

Do you use floppy drives? They should use the IDE controller, too. I'm not 
sure, though.


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Re: [gentoo-user] no shorewall

2007-08-27 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, David Snider wrote:

 Anybody managed to get shorewall working with gentoo-sources
 2.6.22-r5?
 I upgraded from 2.6.20, and there went the firewall. I used oldconfig
   
 I recently updated to 2.6.22-r5.  Shorewall seems to be working great.  No
 errors on startup.   I can post my .config file if you would like.
OK, thanks. My firewall is for a stand-alone workstation.

Jorge
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Re: [gentoo-user] Merlin XU870

2007-08-27 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Montag 27 August 2007 07:52:35 schrieb Michael Gisbers:
 Am Sonntag 26 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp:
  Am Sonntag 26 August 2007 21:53:47 schrieb Michael Gisbers:
   Am Samstag 25 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp:
Am Mittwoch 22 August 2007 17:31:33 schrieb Florian Philipp:
 Am Mittwoch 22 August 2007 16:12:00 schrieb Michael Gisbers:
  Am Wednesday 22 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp:
   Am Montag 20 August 2007 14:11:55 schrieb Michael Gisbers:
Am Montag 20 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp:
 Hmm ... this morning I've got the idea that maybe USB
 selective suspend/resume and wakeup is the problem but
 disabling it didn't change anything.

 At least it's not a gentoo-only problem. Knoppix didn't far
 any better.

 I'll try a second card, a second SIM card and a second
 laptop. In the meantime, could you please send me your
 kernel config?

 Thank you for your help!
   
I sent you my .config by PM.
  
   Heureka, I've found it!
  
   I used kdiff to compare your kernel config with mine. Then I've
   set every option (even completely unrelated stuff like parallel
   port) with some minor exceptions to match your settings and now
   it works!
 
  That's fine. Could you find out which parameter you had to change
  to get it working?

 Not yet, among other things I suspect Elan PCMCIA CardBus Adapter
 USB Client as well as some settings concerning networking but
 there are really too many to be sure. I'll deactivate them over
 time and post it here.

   Okay, umtsmon needs to be root (I have to adjust permissions, I
   think) and I can't make a connection but I've got the same
   problem on Windows so it's most certainly ISP related.
 
  Which ISP do you use?

 E-Plus / Base. Tomorrow I'll drive to the next town and see if it
 works there.
   
Just for the records: I'm now using the scripts provided by Novatel
because umtsmon did not work (and because it was the only package
requiring qt on my laptop). Now I'm connecting with
pppd file /etc/ppp/hsdpa_options ttyUSB0
   
Because their scripts do not work as long as you have to enter a PIN,
I've deactivated the PIN using my mobile phone (umtsmon or the
Windows tool could have worked as well).
   
For E-Plus / Base you need the following settings:
APN:internet.eplus.de
user:   eplus
password:internet
number: *99***1#
   
   
I'm still searching for the kernel option(s).
  
   What about setting PIN and setting it by using 'chat' just before
   starting pppd?
  
   (Don't try to use a pppd - chatscript. If your pin was already entered
   it fails with an error.)
  
   Some time ago I created a script to set PIN just after inserting my old
   umts - card. I'll have a look if I can find it in the archives.
 
  Are these PINs even considered save?

 This PIN is your SIM-PIN equal to that one you use for your mobile phone.
 Without PIN everyone can take your SIM-card, put it into his/her phone and
 use it. It may even be possible that one can use it to make phone calls.

 After you enter 3 false PINs your card gets locked and you have to unlock
 it by a super-PIN.

 So, if you decide to use your card without PIN and loose it. The finder
 will be overjoyed to get a PIN-less SIM and use it on your cost.

I thought more about reading the PIN or its hash with a modified card reader 
but since I could not find any information about that, it might not be 
possible.

In fact I'm not concerned about the actual use by some thiefs. It's a flat 
rate, phone calls should be impossible and SMS should still be protected by a 
second PIN. Furthermore I can lock the SIM as soon as I realize its theft.

However, now that I think about it I'm worried that they could use the SIM for 
illegal activities and since I can be hold responsible if my unprotected WLAN 
is used for spamming, frauds, etc. it might be necessary to protect my SIM as 
well.


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Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:29:58 +0200, Marc Joliet wrote:

 Yeah, I should have set noauto the instant I found out about it. Any
 other recommended mount options? Right now they are
 
 defaults,noauto,user_xattr 1 2

The trouble with using noauto is that sooner or later you will forget to
mount /boot before installing a new kernel. I prefer to us ro instead, so
/boot is mounted read-only. It still removes the possibility of
corruption, but gives a clear error if you try to install a kernel
without remounting rw.

Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed
with modern hardware.


-- 
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You know it's going to be a bad day when you forget your new password.


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[gentoo-user] Re: building a box for Gentoo (update)

2007-08-27 Thread James
Florian Philipp f.philipp at addcom.de writes:


 If you buy new drives, buy SATA. Although IDE is fast enough for optical 
 drives, the cables block the airflow in your case and with SATA you don't 
 need to think about hdparm tuning, jumpers and such like. 


Sata has one property that is identical to IDE:
Don't buy Western digital, if you want the drive to
last a long time.

ymmv,


James

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Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies from eclass and from ebuild

2007-08-27 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Monday 27 August 2007 10:58:02 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 If I switch to paludis, is it relatively[1] easy to revert back to
 portage in the event of $UNKNOWN_REASON? (I'm really just looking for a
 yes or no here)
[SNIP]
 [1] 'relative' is a relative term :-) If it's a similar order of
 magnitude as say the expat, xorg7 and gcc3.3 - 3.4 scenarios or
 mistakenly emerging busybox to / without symlinks on a production
 machine (yes, I did do that), then I'm happy to throw caution to
 the winds and deal with whatever happens/keep 2 broken pieces

Heh. You can always enable portage_compatible if you want (see the 
configuration guide). The only real issue is keeping your Paludis and Portage 
configurations synchronized (unless you use the portage environment with 
Paludis)... So I'd definitely say, yes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] no shorewall

2007-08-27 Thread David Snider

Jorge Almeida wrote:

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, David Snider wrote:

  

Anybody managed to get shorewall working with gentoo-sources
2.6.22-r5?
I upgraded from 2.6.20, and there went the firewall. I used oldconfig
  


I recently updated to 2.6.22-r5.  Shorewall seems to be working great.  No
errors on startup.   I can post my .config file if you would like.


OK, thanks. My firewall is for a stand-alone workstation.

Jorge
  

Here's my .config


#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
# Linux kernel version: 2.6.22-gentoo-r5
# Sun Aug 26 20:36:52 2007
#
CONFIG_X86_32=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_TIME=y
CONFIG_CLOCKSOURCE_WATCHDOG=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS_BROADCAST=y
CONFIG_LOCKDEP_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_STACKTRACE_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_SEMAPHORE_SLEEPERS=y
CONFIG_X86=y
CONFIG_MMU=y
CONFIG_ZONE_DMA=y
CONFIG_QUICKLIST=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_IOMAP=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_BUG=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_HWEIGHT=y
CONFIG_ARCH_MAY_HAVE_PC_FDC=y
CONFIG_DMI=y
CONFIG_DEFCONFIG_LIST=/lib/modules/$UNAME_RELEASE/.config

#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y
CONFIG_INIT_ENV_ARG_LIMIT=32

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO=y
CONFIG_SWAP=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
# CONFIG_IPC_NS is not set
CONFIG_SYSVIPC_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
# CONFIG_TASKSTATS is not set
# CONFIG_UTS_NS is not set
CONFIG_AUDIT=y
CONFIG_AUDITSYSCALL=y
CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y
CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y
CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=14
# CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED is not set
# CONFIG_RELAY is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y
CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE=
# CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE is not set
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
# CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set
CONFIG_UID16=y
CONFIG_SYSCTL_SYSCALL=y
CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y
# CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS is not set
CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
CONFIG_PRINTK=y
CONFIG_BUG=y
CONFIG_ELF_CORE=y
CONFIG_BASE_FULL=y
CONFIG_FUTEX=y
CONFIG_ANON_INODES=y
CONFIG_EPOLL=y
CONFIG_SIGNALFD=y
CONFIG_TIMERFD=y
CONFIG_EVENTFD=y
CONFIG_SHMEM=y
CONFIG_VM_EVENT_COUNTERS=y
CONFIG_SLAB=y
# CONFIG_SLUB is not set
# CONFIG_SLOB is not set
CONFIG_RT_MUTEXES=y
# CONFIG_TINY_SHMEM is not set
CONFIG_BASE_SMALL=0

#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y
CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD=y
# CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is not set
# CONFIG_MODULE_SRCVERSION_ALL is not set
CONFIG_KMOD=y

#
# Block layer
#
CONFIG_BLOCK=y
CONFIG_LBD=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IO_TRACE is not set
# CONFIG_LSF is not set

#
# IO Schedulers
#
CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_CFQ=y
CONFIG_DEFAULT_AS=y
# CONFIG_DEFAULT_DEADLINE is not set
# CONFIG_DEFAULT_CFQ is not set
# CONFIG_DEFAULT_NOOP is not set
CONFIG_DEFAULT_IOSCHED=anticipatory

#
# Processor type and features
#
CONFIG_TICK_ONESHOT=y
CONFIG_NO_HZ=y
CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS=y
# CONFIG_SMP is not set
CONFIG_X86_PC=y
# CONFIG_X86_ELAN is not set
# CONFIG_X86_VOYAGER is not set
# CONFIG_X86_NUMAQ is not set
# CONFIG_X86_SUMMIT is not set
# CONFIG_X86_BIGSMP is not set
# CONFIG_X86_VISWS is not set
# CONFIG_X86_GENERICARCH is not set
# CONFIG_X86_ES7000 is not set
# CONFIG_PARAVIRT is not set
# CONFIG_M386 is not set
# CONFIG_M486 is not set
# CONFIG_M586 is not set
# CONFIG_M586TSC is not set
# CONFIG_M586MMX is not set
# CONFIG_M686 is not set
# CONFIG_MPENTIUMII is not set
# CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set
# CONFIG_MPENTIUMM is not set
# CONFIG_MCORE2 is not set
CONFIG_MPENTIUM4=y
# CONFIG_MK6 is not set
# CONFIG_MK7 is not set
# CONFIG_MK8 is not set
# CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set
# CONFIG_MEFFICEON is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set
# CONFIG_MGEODEGX1 is not set
# CONFIG_MGEODE_LX is not set
# CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set
# CONFIG_MVIAC3_2 is not set
# CONFIG_MVIAC7 is not set
# CONFIG_X86_GENERIC is not set
CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y
CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=7
CONFIG_X86_XADD=y
CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y
# CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_ILOG2_U32 is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_ILOG2_U64 is not set
CONFIG_GENERIC_CALIBRATE_DELAY=y
CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y
CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y
CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_INTEL_USERCOPY=y
CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y
CONFIG_X86_TSC=y
CONFIG_X86_CMOV=y
CONFIG_X86_MINIMUM_CPU_MODEL=4
CONFIG_HPET_TIMER=y
CONFIG_HPET_EMULATE_RTC=y
CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE=y
# CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY is not set
# CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set
CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC=y
CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_MCE=y
CONFIG_X86_MCE_NONFATAL=y
CONFIG_X86_MCE_P4THERMAL=y
CONFIG_VM86=y
# CONFIG_TOSHIBA is not set
# CONFIG_I8K is not set
# CONFIG_X86_REBOOTFIXUPS is not set
# CONFIG_MICROCODE is not set
# CONFIG_X86_MSR is not set
# CONFIG_X86_CPUID is not set

#
# Firmware Drivers
#
# CONFIG_EDD is not set
# CONFIG_DELL_RBU is not set
CONFIG_DCDBAS=m
CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set

Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies from eclass and from ebuild

2007-08-27 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Monday 27 August 2007 10:39:25 David Bonnafous wrote:
 After a sync (see below what and how) when I try to re-merge a package
 (same version) and emerge tell me that there is a dependency not
 satified I would like to know where this dependency come from. Because
 this is a new dependency, added after the sync by

 - a mistake I do (wrong /etc/portage/package.mask)

Obviously a new dependency cannot come from a package.mask. I suppose this 
question relates to how to figure out whether a hardmasked package is masked 
due to a user mask, a repository mask or a profile mask (using the terms that 
Paludis use). With Portage (at least the latest version) you can see this 
from the path to the package.mask in the mask message.

 - a minor revison (new CVS version) of a ebuild not so minor
 - a modification of a eclass

 And my question is how to know is this new dependency comme from
 eclass, or more generaly what are the dependencies that come from
 eclass ?

Stating the obvious (I think).. Any dependency that doesn't come from the 
ebuild comes from an eclass. Heh. Having said that...

I know of no tool which can show which dependencies of a package come from the 
ebuild or which eclass each of the remaining deps come from. Still there are 
a couple of tools which might be of some help. Those include qgrep 
(portage-utils), dep (udept) and of course grep.. ;)

  What do you intend to do with this overlay?

 I intend to be able to maintain for a long time a set of package
 (ebuild and files) I use on my servers. I want to be able to recompile
 them as I need even if gentoo developers remove them from the official
 portage tree.

It's still far from clear to me what the point of this exercise is. If the 
gentoo developers remove a package from the official tree then you still have 
unlimited access to the complete version history of said tree. Even though 
cvs may be a pain to work with it's not *that* hard.

  Why do you sync at all?

 In fact I have added --backup --backup-dir='/usr/local/portage' to
 the rsync options. Then after a sync I have in /usr/local/portage all
 the files that changed. So I clean up this tree (remove eclass
 directory, redundant package ebuild,...).

One other option you do have is to import the tree to a more useful revision 
control system and try to keep them synced (although obviously you wouldn't 
get every cvs revision)..

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[gentoo-user] Default group for users

2007-08-27 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I have a box which until recently had only one user.  When I created this user 
as e.g. user_name1 his home became owned by user_name1:users.  This cascaded 
to directories below /home/user_name1.  No directory called user_name1 was 
created at the time.

More recently, I created a new user, user_name2 and the ownership 
of /home/user_name2 became user_name2:user_name2 (the latter being a group 
for user_name2).  Is this how it should be these days?  If so then I assume 
that this is because of changes in the skeleton file over the years.

Meanwhile /home looks like this:

drwxr-xr-x   6 root root  216 Dec 24  2006 home

Is this also what your /home looks like?
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Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Mick
On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote:

 Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed
 with modern hardware.

Please tell us more.
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Re: [gentoo-user] The big clean up

2007-08-27 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Monday 27 August 2007 03:28:34 W.Kenworthy wrote:
 Some files did turn out to be from currently installed packages (curl,
 gnuplot, glade, ...) that revdep-rebuild didnt pick up - a bit of a
 worry ...

Probably the most reliable version of revdep-rebuild currently in the tree is 
in gentoolkit 0.2.4_pre5. Might want to use that for a while. Also
/etc/revdep-rebuild/ contains some files that affect what revdep-rebuild 
finds.

 Is there a script that uses the equery check functionality and lists
 both broken packages and orphans in the system directories not accounted
 for? - this seems like a good start.

I'm sure there are some nasty scripts flowing around on the forums. qcheck -a 
and qfile -o are available in portage-utils, however, there are *lots* af 
files not owned by any package that are essential on a gentoo system. Proceed 
with extreme caution.. ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Mick,

  Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't
  needed with modern hardware.  
 
 Please tell us more.

A separate /boot is to get round BIOS limitation that prevent accessing
beyond the first so many cylinders (1024?) of a drive, so it was
essential to have the kernel stored within that area of the disk. That's
why the Gentoo handbooks only recommend a separate /boot for certain
architectures, basically x86-based ones. For other architectures, like
PPC, the handbook does not suggest using /boot, at least it didn't when I
installed on this iBook.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Default group for users

2007-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 27 August 2007, Mick wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have a box which until recently had only one user.  When I created
 this user as e.g. user_name1 his home became owned by
 user_name1:users.  This cascaded to directories below
 /home/user_name1.  No directory called user_name1 was created at the
 time.

 More recently, I created a new user, user_name2 and the ownership
 of /home/user_name2 became user_name2:user_name2 (the latter being a
 group for user_name2).  Is this how it should be these days?  If so
 then I assume that this is because of changes in the skeleton file
 over the years.

There's two ways of doing this, either new users all have the same 
inital primary group, or they get one based on their user name. The 
second is preferred as homw dirs are then not open by default like they 
would be if they were all owned by the users groups, and the user sets 
a umask of 0002

You can actually do it any way you want and that suits your needs, but 
the current gentoo default is a sane default. CHange it if you want 
with the usual tools to manipulate /etc/passwd|group|shadow|gshadow

 Meanwhile /home looks like this:

 drwxr-xr-x   6 root root  216 Dec 24  2006 home

Yes, that is correct. Only root can create users so only root has the 
ability to write to /home to create the home dirs. Everyone else can 
still cd and ls /home, as they need that to navigate to lower 
directories

alan


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Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies from eclass and from ebuild

2007-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 27 August 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
 On Monday 27 August 2007 10:58:02 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  If I switch to paludis, is it relatively[1] easy to revert back to
  portage in the event of $UNKNOWN_REASON? (I'm really just looking
  for a yes or no here)

 [SNIP]

  [1] 'relative' is a relative term :-) If it's a similar order of
  magnitude as say the expat, xorg7 and gcc3.3 - 3.4 scenarios or
  mistakenly emerging busybox to / without symlinks on a production
  machine (yes, I did do that), then I'm happy to throw caution
  to the winds and deal with whatever happens/keep 2 broken pieces

 Heh. You can always enable portage_compatible if you want (see the
 configuration guide). The only real issue is keeping your Paludis and
 Portage configurations synchronized (unless you use the portage
 environment with Paludis)... So I'd definitely say, yes.

Magic, maybe now that emerge spinner will take itself out of my life :-)

/me goes looking for a few spare hours in the calendar...

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Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 27 August 2007, Mick wrote:
 On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote:
  Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't
  needed with modern hardware.

 Please tell us more.

Many many many years ago, back in the dark days of small drives and 
broken BIOSes, we all had a little problem at boot time. The BIOS was 
unable to read anything on the disk beyond what it thought was cylinder 
1024 (it was a BIOS hard limit).

So, no boot loader could find a kernel anywhere beyond that cylinder and 
if you weren't careful to make 100% sure the boot loader could find the 
kernel image, then the machine wouldn't boot. The solution is to create 
a small partition of around 50M-100M and make it the first. if you put 
your kernel images there, you are guaranteed that the BIOS will find 
them.

Nowadays of course we know better. We still build drives with insane 
geometries, but they are saner than way back then. Today's boot loaders 
still have to cope with the insane x86 architecture, 16 bit code and 
all sorts of other wierd legacy baggage, but we did at least solve the 
hard drive limits thing. This happened around 1995 and no pc machine 
made since then has this problem that I have ever seen, so you don't 
really need a separate /boot for that reason.

Some people still prefer to do it though. Most of them are like me (i.e. 
slightly off our rockers) are do stuff like 2 Linux OSs on one box, or 
just simply prefer to have the kernel images nice and safe in 
unwritable locations at run time. The first scenario is much easier 
with a shared /boot as you don't have to tiptoe around two / 
directories or get into silly schemes with two grubs, one in the MBR, 
one in a partition's boot sector and one of them the master (and then 
forget which one that was)

So there are good reasons for a separate /boot, but hardware limits 
isn't one of them. Unfortunately we have not yet taken this to it's 
logical conclusion yetand rid the planet entirely of that beast who 
should not be suffered to live called the BIOS But that's a 
different thread for a different time.

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't install Gentoo on Dell Inspiron 530

2007-08-27 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 23:22:56 -0400 Walter Dnes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Now that I have a working keyboard and a busybox shell, I'm trying
 to mount a USB key.  I did...
 
 mknod /dev/sda b 8 0
 mknod /dev/sda1 b 8 1
 
 ...inserted a USB key, and tried mounting it.  dmesg indicates that
 the USB driver did find sda and sda1.  However, the mount command
 always fails with a cryptic, and useless, error message.  Is there an
 example somewhere of how busybox's mount command works?  Or does it
 not support msdos or vfat filesystem types?

FS support has got to be inside the kernel. When module autoloading
doesn't work, you'll have to make sure that everything needed is
present. While the mount error message might be useless, is there any
reasonable error report in dmesg?

BTW, you can mount /proc and then look for PCI dev information and
partitioning information there.

$ mount -t proc none /proc
$ cat /proc/bus/pci/devices
(vendor/device string is on position 2)
$ cat /proc/partitions

and

$ cat /proc/filesystems

are your friends.

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Re: [gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant+ndiswrapper, Dell E1505, Broadcom 4311 wireless problem

2007-08-27 Thread Willie Wong
The following lines worries me a bit. 

On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 12:16:23AM -0400, Penguin Lover Lingyun Yang squawked:
 Starting AP scan (specific SSID)
 Scan SSID - hexdump_ascii(len=6):
  41 50 54 32 32 42 APT22B
 Trying to get current scan results first without requesting a new scan to
 speed up initial association
 ioctl[SIOCGIWSCAN]: Resource temporarily unavailable
 Scan results: -1
 Failed to get scan results
 Failed to get scan results - try scanning again
 Setting scan request: 0 sec 0 usec
 Starting AP scan (broadcast SSID)
 Scan timeout - try to get results
 ioctl[SIOCGIWSCAN]: Resource temporarily unavailable
 Scan results: -1
 Failed to get scan results
 Failed to get scan results - try scanning again

The resource temporarily unavailable error is probably not good. 
Two things you can try:
  1) Can you even scan the network (without using wpa_supplicant). If
  you have wireless-tools installed (you should), after loading the
  kernel module, try running 'iwlist eth1 scan', does it produce a
  nice list of the cells in your area?

  2) Is this a WPA problem or a problem on hardware/driver? Can you
  connect to other types of networks? Unencrypted? WEP? 

Dmesg output in regards to the bcm43xx driver and possibly softmac
would also be useful.

How did you install the 4311 drivers? Try following the directions
here?
 
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-409194-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-0.html

Best of luck,

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[gentoo-user] Shutting down WLAN and network

2007-08-27 Thread Florian Philipp
Hi!

I've already tried my luck on gentoo-laptop but that list seems to be dead.

Is there a neat and easy way to shut down the ethernet and WLAN adapters of my 
notebook when I don't need them?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Shutting down WLAN and network

2007-08-27 Thread Michael Gisbers
Am Montag 27 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp:
 Hi!

 I've already tried my luck on gentoo-laptop but that list seems to be dead.

 Is there a neat and easy way to shut down the ethernet and WLAN adapters of
 my notebook when I don't need them?

Hi, it's me again ;-)

Do you want to shut them down completely (rmmod etc.) or do you only want them 
to standby until it is needed (network plug)?

If you are thinking about the second have a look on sys-apps/netplug and 
sys-apps/ifplugd. I'm using netplug for my eth0 and my hardware-switch for 
wlan0. ;-)

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[gentoo-user] [solved] Re: gensplash problem with X

2007-08-27 Thread Marc Blumentritt
Marc Blumentritt schrieb:
 Hi,
 
 when I boot my new system with gensplash, the console is OK up until X
 is started via gdm. Afterward all consoles are smeared and broken.
 Starting X via startx results in a similar problem plus X is not
 starting. I try to give you all relevant data in the hopes to get some
 clues for my problem. System is stable (kernel 2.6.22-r2, xorg-x11 7.2),
 I'm using a Nvidia 8500GT (nvidia-drivers 100.14.09). Framebuffer is
 vesafb with these relevant kernel options vga=0x318
 video=vesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap splash=silent,theme:AquaMatrix CONSOLE=/dev/tty1.
 
Updating to the newest nvidia driver (100.14.11) solved my problem.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Default group for users

2007-08-27 Thread Mick
On Monday 27 August 2007, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
 Am Montag, 27. August 2007 schrieb ext Mick:
  I have a box which until recently had only one user.  When I created this
  user as e.g. user_name1 his home became owned by user_name1:users.  This
  cascaded to directories below /home/user_name1.  No directory called
  user_name1 was created at the time.

 Would you mind telling us _how_ you created this user?

Just like the handbook told me to, but that was something like 4 years ago.

Something I need to say here is that a couple of years after I created the 
user, I restored the system from tar files using a Knoppix CD.  Not sure if 
this messed things up (e.g. at some point I discovered that my /home 
directory was set as drwxr_xr_t).

  More recently, I created a new user, user_name2 and the ownership
  of /home/user_name2 became user_name2:user_name2 (the latter being a
  group for user_name2).

 see above.

# useradd -m -G users,wheel,audio,plugdev -s /bin/bash user_name

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Re: [gentoo-user] Shutting down WLAN and network

2007-08-27 Thread Noud Aldenhoven
On 8/27/07, Michael Gisbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Montag 27 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp:
  Hi!
 
  I've already tried my luck on gentoo-laptop but that list seems to be dead.
 
  Is there a neat and easy way to shut down the ethernet and WLAN adapters of
  my notebook when I don't need them?

 Hi, it's me again ;-)

 Do you want to shut them down completely (rmmod etc.) or do you only want them
 to standby until it is needed (network plug)?

 If you are thinking about the second have a look on sys-apps/netplug and
 sys-apps/ifplugd. I'm using netplug for my eth0 and my hardware-switch for
 wlan0. ;-)

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  http://www.lugor.de



Perhaps a stupid remark, but most laptops are supported with a
wireless hardware on/off button.
Your wireless adapter will be shut down for sure then.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Default group for users

2007-08-27 Thread Mick
On Monday 27 August 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Monday 27 August 2007, Mick wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I have a box which until recently had only one user.  When I created
  this user as e.g. user_name1 his home became owned by
  user_name1:users.  This cascaded to directories below
  /home/user_name1.  No directory called user_name1 was created at the
  time.
 
  More recently, I created a new user, user_name2 and the ownership
  of /home/user_name2 became user_name2:user_name2 (the latter being a
  group for user_name2).  Is this how it should be these days?  If so
  then I assume that this is because of changes in the skeleton file
  over the years.

 There's two ways of doing this, either new users all have the same
 inital primary group, or they get one based on their user name. The
 second is preferred as homw dirs are then not open by default like they
 would be if they were all owned by the users groups, and the user sets
 a umask of 0002

From what you're saying the current default Gentoo set up is to have a 
separate primary group, based on the user's name.  Was this the case 3-4 
years ago?

 You can actually do it any way you want and that suits your needs, but
 the current gentoo default is a sane default. CHange it if you want
 with the usual tools to manipulate /etc/passwd|group|shadow|gshadow

I am aware of these files, but what tools are the usual tools?

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Re: [gentoo-user] no shorewall

2007-08-27 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, David Snider wrote:


 Here's my .config
 
Thanks, David. Your configuration works for me. Meanwhile, I ended up by
selecting all modules in my former config, even those that are plainly
irrelevant (according to the help in menuconfig) and shorewall now
starts OK. I just wish I were any wiser, which I'm not.

Cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Mick
On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:29:58 +0200, Marc Joliet wrote:
  Yeah, I should have set noauto the instant I found out about it. Any
  other recommended mount options? Right now they are
 
  defaults,noauto,user_xattr 1 2

 The trouble with using noauto is that sooner or later you will forget to
 mount /boot before installing a new kernel. I prefer to us ro instead, so
 /boot is mounted read-only. It still removes the possibility of
 corruption, but gives a clear error if you try to install a kernel
 without remounting rw.

 Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed
 with modern hardware.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Shutting down WLAN and network

2007-08-27 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Montag 27 August 2007 19:45:47 schrieb Noud Aldenhoven:
 On 8/27/07, Michael Gisbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Am Montag 27 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp:
   Hi!
  
   I've already tried my luck on gentoo-laptop but that list seems to be
   dead.
  
   Is there a neat and easy way to shut down the ethernet and WLAN
   adapters of my notebook when I don't need them?
 
  Hi, it's me again ;-)
 
  Do you want to shut them down completely (rmmod etc.) or do you only want
  them to standby until it is needed (network plug)?
 
  If you are thinking about the second have a look on sys-apps/netplug and
  sys-apps/ifplugd. I'm using netplug for my eth0 and my hardware-switch
  for wlan0. ;-)
 
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   http://www.lugor.de

 Perhaps a stupid remark, but most laptops are supported with a
 wireless hardware on/off button.
 Your wireless adapter will be shut down for sure then.


Yes, but it's just a simple hotkey (Fn+F2) and it does not seem to work. 

I think I'll create three runlevels: default for dhcp, home for static ip 
and routing and nonetwork.

Maybe I can use netplug for automatically switching to nonetwork.

At the moment I'm thinking about the init-scripts necessary to load and unload 
the network drivers, network profiles etc.


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Re: [gentoo-user] no shorewall

2007-08-27 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Jorge Almeida wrote:
 Meanwhile, I ended up by selecting all modules in my former
 config, even those  that are plainly irrelevant (according to the
 help in menuconfig) and shorewall now starts OK. I just wish I
 were any wiser, which I'm not.

Sure you are.  You've learned that shorewall sets up rules that are 
plainly irrelevant.  :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant issues

2007-08-27 Thread Eric Martin
What pid does it get when you stop the process and start a new one; 5872 or
is that only when you first start up?  I had a problem similar to that a
while ago but I haven't used my wireless card in ages...

On 8/22/07, Daniel V. Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I use wpa_supplicant with madwifi and everything works perfectly with
 one strange exception.  At boot time, when net.ath0 tries to start, it
 complains that the address is still in use and doesn't start!  I look at
 the process list and find wpa_supplicant is always running when I start.
 Interesting, also, is the fact that it is always running with the same
 pid (5872).  I can stop the process and net.ath0 starts perfectly.

 I've checked over the configuration and all is well, and I've looked
 over the logs and nothing seems askew.  Hell, I can't even find the
 error in the logs...  This means, unfortunately, that I have nothing to
 present in the way of an error...  I do remember that the error at boot
 has something to do with wpa_ctrl.

 I hope you fine fellows can piece something together with this or give
 me some documentation I might read.

 Thanks.




Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?':
Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed
with modern hardware.

Unless you want to use LVM.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Java Version

2007-08-27 Thread sean

Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:

The instructions on Gentoo's site differ a bit from the actual results.


eselect java-nsplugin list results as below

Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
Available 64-bit Java browser plugins

No numbered options as to choose one.

I am on AMD64 and using the 64 bit version, so I figured the 64-bit 
version should support the 64 bit firefox compiled?
There are no number options because you don't seem to have any Java 
browser plugin available. This is the output I get when I run eselect 
java-nsplugin list:


Available Java browser plugins
 [1]   sun-jdk-1.5  current

Since I have sun-jdk available. Could you please run both eix ^jre$ 
and eix ^jdk$ and post the output?


Abraham



Hello Abraham,

Sorry for the slow reply, been away for about a week.
Anyway, I have since recalled the nspluginwrapper package since last I 
was here, so all but my java plugin appears.


Your eix commands do not work, but here is the output of java -version

java version 1.5.0_12
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_12-b04)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.5.0_12-b04, mixed mode)


I saw the other posting of no 64 bit java plugin, but how is the above 
of Available 64-bit Java browser plugins listed?


I still get the above in response of eselect java-nsplugin list

Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
Available 64-bit Java browser plugins

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Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Dave Jones
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote on 27/08/07 22:52:
 On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 about 'Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?':
 Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed
 with modern hardware.

 Unless you want to use LVM.

Trying to boot a partition which starts above the 160GB BIOS limit won't
 work either. Grub cannot cope with it.

Creating a small boot partition under the 160GB line got the system
booted fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:52:39 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

 Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't
 needed with modern hardware.  
 
 Unless you want to use LVM.

In which case it's just as easy to use a small root partition,
including /boot, /lib, /bin etc. and shove everything else onto LVM.
Either way, you still need one non-LVM partition, but making it root
removes the need for an initrd.

There are always at least two ways of doing things, and the other way is
generally considered inferior :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] no shorewall

2007-08-27 Thread William Kenworthy
Checking the obvious: you have gone through and manually checked that
the modules are still being built?

There has been some renaming going on within netfilter that just using
oldconfig misses a few (leaves them unselected, but didnt ask if I
wanted them built).  Not sure which kernel versions were involved but
its recent, and caught me out - I was using the monmotha script at the
time and the error messages were a good pointer.  Is dmesg showing
anything after applying shorewall?

BillK

On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 08:43 +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote:
 On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, W.Kenworthy wrote:
 
  No problems on multiple systems built using oldconfig and not rebuilding
  iptables.
 OK, that means it's not some problem related with gentoo-sources
 patches.
  
  In the kernel I turn everything on by default and build it modular -
  this might be the cause for you?
  
 I don't think so. I have everything as module. Some modules (very few,
 related to hw I don't have) I didn't select, but they were never needed
 with former kernel versions...
 
 Thanks.
 
 Jorge
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[gentoo-user] [maybe solved] Can't install Gentoo on Dell Inspiron 530

2007-08-27 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote
   I got a shiny new Dell Inspiron from the PC fairy.  Windows Vista
 works OK (at least good enough for Windows).  It does not want to be
 formattedg.  I insert the latest minimal install CD, and things start
 off OK at the beginning of the boot process.  *THE USB KEYBOARD WORKS OK
 AT THE BEGINNING*  I can type in gentoo or gentoo-nofb.  A bunch of
 modules load, and eventually we get to the default keymap stage, at
 which point, things fall apart.
 
   1) The keyboard (USB) now types each character twice.  If I attempt to
 type 41, it comes out as 4411, and the install program complains
 about an invalid keymap number.
 
   2) Even though the CD managed to boot initially, it now complains
 about not being able to find any bootable medium.

  Finally getting somewhere.  Checked dell.com's support knowledgebase.
Only the most recent kernels support SATA drives in IDE mode, and it
looks like the Gentoo 2007.0-r1 kernel isn't recent enough.  After
screwing around a bit, I finally found a way to boot the CD.  I don't
know if the following will boot the hard drive when I finish, but at
least...
1) It fixes the keyboard without passing extra parameters
2) It does recognize my CD/DVD drives as /dev/sro and /dev/sr1 and the
hard drive as /dev/sda.  I was able to mount the hard drive and found
command.com and a whole bunch of .exe and .bat files.  This is the pre-
installed Vista.  The following instructions apply to my Dell Inspiron
530.  YMMV for other models.

***WARNING***
You will *NOT* be able to boot Windows in the following setup
(One... Two... Three... aww)

- reboot and go into BIOS setup (usually {F2} key)
- go to integrated peripherals
- change sata mode from IDE to RAID
- save and reboot (usually {F10} key)
- go into BIOS setup (usually {F2} key). Yes again.
- comment; if you watch carefully during the boot, you may notice the
  AHCI BIOS installed message.
- go into boot device configuration.  It will behave slightly differently
  thanks to AHCI BIOS being installed.
- set boot device priority.  Note; if you have more than 1 CD/DVD, you need
  to specify them separately, if you want to be able to boot off both of
  them. There are only 3 available slots, so I sacrificed the floppy.  This
  left me with the 2 CD/DVD drives and the hard drive as the boot order
- save and reboot (usually {F10} key)

  I'll report back later if the install works.  The knowledgebase
article recommeded a bare install, a file dump of the install CD, and
then rebuild and burn the install CD, with the latest kernel.  If I can
avoid that, I'll leave the drive in RAID mode.  Just call me lazy.

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[gentoo-user] Re: FQDN v. localhost

2007-08-27 Thread Thufir
Here's what I did, but I didn't do all of the steps specified.  Is this 
correct?  I want to configure a FQDN for leafnode:


localhost ~ # 
localhost ~ # 
localhost ~ # 
localhost ~ # cat /etc/conf.d/net
# This blank configuration will automatically use DHCP for any net.*
# scripts in /etc/init.d.  To create a more complete configuration,
# please review /etc/conf.d/net.example and save your configuration
# in /etc/conf.d/net (this file :]!).
iface_eth1=dhcp
dhcpcd_eth1=
localhost ~ # 
localhost ~ # cat /etc/conf.d/hostname
#HOSTNAME=livecd
#HOSTNAME=localhost arrakis.doesntexist.org
HOSTNAME=arrakis
#HOSTNAME=localhost
localhost ~ # 
localhost ~ # cat /etc/hosts
# /etc/hosts: Local Host Database
#
# This file describes a number of aliases-to-address mappings for the for 
# local hosts that share this file.
#
# In the presence of the domain name service or NIS, this file may not be 
# consulted at all; see /etc/host.conf for the resolution order.
#

# IPv4 and IPv6 localhost aliases
#127.0.0.1  localhost
127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain   localhost
192.168.2.110   arrakis.doesntexist.org arrakis
::1 localhost




#
# Imaginary network.
#10.0.0.2   myname
#10.0.0.3   myfriend
#
# According to RFC 1918, you can use the following IP networks for 
private 
# nets which will never be connected to the Internet:
#
#   10.0.0.0-   10.255.255.255
#   172.16.0.0  -   172.31.255.255
#   192.168.0.0 -   192.168.255.255
#
# In case you want to be able to connect directly to the Internet (i.e. 
not 
# behind a NAT, ADSL router, etc...), you need real official assigned 
# numbers.  Do not try to invent your own network numbers but instead get 
one 
# from your network provider (if any) or from your regional registry 
(ARIN, 
# APNIC, LACNIC, RIPE NCC, or AfriNIC.)
#
localhost ~ # 
localhost ~ # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart
 * Caching service 
dependencies ...   [ ok ]
 * Stopping 
apache2 ...   [ ok ]
 * Unmounting network 
filesystems ... [ ok ]
 * Stopping eth0
 *   Bringing down eth0
 * Stopping dhcpcd on 
eth0 ...[ ok ]
 * Shutting down 
eth0 ... [ ok ]
 * Starting eth0
 *   Configuration not set for eth0 - assuming DHCP
 *   Bringing up eth0
 * dhcp
 *   Running 
dhcpcd ...   [ ok ]
 *   eth0 received address 192.168.2.110/24
 * Mounting network 
filesystems ...   [ ok ]
 * Starting 
apache2 ...   [ ok ]
localhost ~ # 
localhost ~ # 
localhost ~ # hostname -vf
gethostname()=`arrakis'
Resolving `arrakis' ...
Result: h_name=`arrakis.doesntexist.org'
Result: h_aliases=`arrakis'
Result: h_addr_list=`192.168.2.110'
arrakis.doesntexist.org
localhost ~ # 
localhost ~ # date
Mon Aug 27 19:07:10 PDT 2007
localhost ~ # 
localhost ~ # 



thanks,

Thufir

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Re: [gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant issues

2007-08-27 Thread Dan Cowsill
On 8/27/07, Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What pid does it get when you stop the process and start a new one; 5872 or
 is that only when you first start up?  I had a problem similar to that a
 while ago but I haven't used my wireless card in ages...


  On 8/22/07, Daniel V. Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I use wpa_supplicant with madwifi and everything works perfectly with
  one strange exception.  At boot time, when net.ath0 tries to start, it
  complains that the address is still in use and doesn't start!  I look at
  the process list and find wpa_supplicant is always running when I start.
  Interesting, also, is the fact that it is always running with the same
  pid (5872).  I can stop the process and net.ath0 starts perfectly.
 
  I've checked over the configuration and all is well, and I've looked
  over the logs and nothing seems askew.  Hell, I can't even find the
  error in the logs...  This means, unfortunately, that I have nothing to
  present in the way of an error...  I do remember that the error at boot
  has something to do with wpa_ctrl.
 
  I hope you fine fellows can piece something together with this or give
  me some documentation I might read.
 
  Thanks.
 
 



No, it's always 5872.  Before and after startup.  Glad you could make it :D
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[gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-27 Thread Shaochun Wang
Hi guys:

I wouldn't like, but i have to say that all current available linux
desktop search engines are rubbish. Keep reading, and you'll know why.

1. Beagle is full of buggy. Can you imagine what makes a software consumes
five hundrend Megabits of memory? On my system, this beast consumes
almost all of memory and makes my swap half full. Besides, it also
monopolizes CPU and makes my system unusable. When you search something,
beagle gives you some hints which is not good enough. Beagle can search
chm, pdf etc. files.

2. Tracker is boasting itself of consuming little system resource and
quick responding speed. It's true when compared with beagle and google
desktop search. It consumes about twenty five megabits on idle state and
gives you something in an acceptable time. But what can be called a
search engine when it returns nothing you want? In other hand, tracker
can't index chm file.

3. Google desktop search is heavy like beagle. It makes my system so
slow that I wonder whether it is the product of google. It is source
closed and only binary distributed. But this is unimportant, and who
will be interested in the source of such ugly software :-)

In one word, there is no useable desktop search engine for linux.


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Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-27 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag, 28. August 2007, Shaochun Wang wrote:
 Hi guys:

 I wouldn't like, but i have to say that all current available linux
 desktop search engines are rubbish. Keep reading, and you'll know why.

 1. Beagle is full of buggy. Can you imagine what makes a software consumes
 five hundrend Megabits of memory? On my system, this beast consumes
 almost all of memory and makes my swap half full. Besides, it also
 monopolizes CPU and makes my system unusable. When you search something,
 beagle gives you some hints which is not good enough. Beagle can search
 chm, pdf etc. files.

 2. Tracker is boasting itself of consuming little system resource and
 quick responding speed. It's true when compared with beagle and google
 desktop search. It consumes about twenty five megabits on idle state and
 gives you something in an acceptable time. But what can be called a
 search engine when it returns nothing you want? In other hand, tracker
 can't index chm file.

 3. Google desktop search is heavy like beagle. It makes my system so
 slow that I wonder whether it is the product of google. It is source
 closed and only binary distributed. But this is unimportant, and who
 will be interested in the source of such ugly software :-)

 In one word, there is no useable desktop search engine for linux.


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they are called 'locate', 'find' and 'grep'.

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Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-27 Thread Norberto Bensa

Quoting Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


there is no useable desktop search engine for linux.


That's the best thing about opensource!!! Code one yourself :-P




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Re: [gentoo-user] Shutting down WLAN and network

2007-08-27 Thread Michael Gisbers
Am Montag 27 August 2007 schrieb Noud Aldenhoven:
 On 8/27/07, Michael Gisbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Am Montag 27 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp:
   Hi!
  
   I've already tried my luck on gentoo-laptop but that list seems to be
   dead.
  
   Is there a neat and easy way to shut down the ethernet and WLAN
   adapters of my notebook when I don't need them?
 
  Hi, it's me again ;-)
 
  Do you want to shut them down completely (rmmod etc.) or do you only want
  them to standby until it is needed (network plug)?
 
  If you are thinking about the second have a look on sys-apps/netplug and
  sys-apps/ifplugd. I'm using netplug for my eth0 and my hardware-switch
  for wlan0. ;-)
 
  --
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   http://www.lugor.de

 Perhaps a stupid remark, but most laptops are supported with a
 wireless hardware on/off button.
 Your wireless adapter will be shut down for sure then.

Like you say: most laptops.

Even newer laptops don't support keyboard shortcuts running with linux. And 
some laptops even don't start with wireless enabled.

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