Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Java Version
Thufir escribió: On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:41:49 +0200, Abraham Marín Pérez wrote: How do I get the plugin into Firefox? I have the USE flag in place, and a 32 and 64 bit plugin appears available, but still nothing shows for about:plugins. The fetch restriction appears when downloading its documentation, not the jvm itself; if you don't have doc use flag enabled for jvm you won't download it, and hence, you won't experience its fetch restrictions. I wasn't aware of this. If ufed is properly configured, then the JVM is directly fetched? :) -Thufir You may have a misunderstanding here. The fetch restriction doesn't mean it's not properly configured, it just means that its configuration implies some special conditions to download some packages. Concerning jdk, see the difference between have doc use flag enabled or disabled: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ USE=-doc emerge -pv jdk These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild NS ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02 USE=-X -alsa -doc -examples -jce -nsplugin 0 kB [ebuild NS ] virtual/jdk-1.6.0 0 kB * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ USE=doc emerge -pv jdk These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N F ] dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.6.0-r1 53,612 kB [ebuild NS ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02 USE=doc -X -alsa -examples -jce -nsplugin 0 kB [ebuild NS ] virtual/jdk-1.6.0 0 kB * If you want docs you have to merge the package dev-java/java-sdk-docs. However, to download that package you must accept a license by Sun, that's why you can't download it directly through Portage. Taking a look at the following link may help you as well: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Fetch_Restrictions HTH, Abraham -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no shorewall
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, W.Kenworthy wrote: No problems on multiple systems built using oldconfig and not rebuilding iptables. OK, that means it's not some problem related with gentoo-sources patches. In the kernel I turn everything on by default and build it modular - this might be the cause for you? I don't think so. I have everything as module. Some modules (very few, related to hw I don't have) I didn't select, but they were never needed with former kernel versions... Thanks. Jorge -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] building a box for Gentoo (update)
Hello Philip Webb, OTOH, I do have a couple of words of caution about the Motherboard. The new Intel chipsets do not provide an IDE controller so motherboard manufacturers have to go get a 3rd party IDE/PATA controller if they want that support on their Intel motherboards. My new HDD wb SATA : does that need an IDE controller ? There wb a DVD/CD-RW drive too : perhaps that might need one ? It's not an issue I've encountered before. Most of the manufacturers seem to have gone with JMicron's controller, but my experience with it so far has been rather frustrating. Supposedly its drivers have been in the mainline kernel since 2.6.18 but it's been pretty flaky for me when I had to deal with it I have an Asus P5B-E with the JMicron controller. I used in only for a couple of DVD-RW drives and have had no problems at all. My hard drives are all SATA and while there is a SATA port on the JMicron controller, I haven't used it as there are six other SATA ports on this board, on the Intel controller. -- Neil Bothwick Don't hate yourself in the morning, sleep until noon. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies from eclass and from ebuild
Hi, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Friday 24 August 2007 18:24:33 David Bonnafous wrote: I'm working to get a stable portage overlay to keep ebuild and files I used to build my system. But even if I keep the ebuild and all the files needed, the command emerge --sync introduces some dependencies by modifying eclass. How can I know (localize) this kind of dependencies ? I found the first one using grep JAVA_PKG_PORTAGE_DEP==sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.7 in eclass/java-utils-2.eclass (change from version 1.91 to 1.92) I didn't quite understand what this question is about. Are you trying to figure out why that dependency were added? No I am not trying to figure out why that dependency were added. I think the gentoo developers have good reasons to do that in that way. After a sync (see below what and how) when I try to re-merge a package (same version) and emerge tell me that there is a dependency not satified I would like to know where this dependency come from. Because this is a new dependency, added after the sync by - a mistake I do (wrong /etc/portage/package.mask) - a minor revison (new CVS version) of a ebuild not so minor - a modification of a eclass And my question is how to know is this new dependency comme from eclass, or more generaly what are the dependencies that come from eclass ? What do you intend to do with this overlay? I intend to be able to maintain for a long time a set of package (ebuild and files) I use on my servers. I want to be able to recompile them as I need even if gentoo developers remove them from the official portage tree. Why do you sync at all? In fact I have added --backup --backup-dir='/usr/local/portage' to the rsync options. Then after a sync I have in /usr/local/portage all the files that changed. So I clean up this tree (remove eclass directory, redundant package ebuild,...). Yours, -- Bo Andresen -- David Bonnafous Institut de Mathématiques Université Paul Sabatier Toulouse - France -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrom and usb automounting problem..
ummm, anyone there who tried to help, just to let you know problem is solved with this morning's emerge -NDuva world where new udev release (115) apeared..i just casualy pluged stick and it was instanty automounted on fstab defined point (/mnt/usb) as well as a cdrom with same instant mounting few seconds from putting it in a rom.. im glad to have such power community willing to help individual under any circumstances, once again thank yaall :) long live gentoo :) purple..
Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies from eclass and from ebuild
On Friday 24 August 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Friday 24 August 2007 18:49:38 Alan McKinnon wrote: Sounds like you want to keep the old eclass around inside the overlay and let portage update ${PORTDIR}/eclass/* as it sees fit? I have this setup, I simply created an eclass directory in my overlay directory, added the ebuild to the overlay, and the ebuilds started using the overlay version of the eclass. Something like: /var/portage/local/alan/eclass/ is where I put my eclasses. Uh, that will cause the eclasses in ${PORTDIR} to be overshadowed (just like the same version of any ebuild in the overlay will overshadow the ebuilds in ${PORTDIR}. If you really want to keep two trees separate and use them both, you should use a package manager that has proper support for multiple repositories (like Paludis ;)... Good point :-) I should add a caveat to what I said - my custom eclasses don't conflict with portage's and I make sure they have unique names. So I don't run into problems, but someone blindly following my post may well have name clashes and not know why. Not that's out of the way, this sounds like a very good reason to start using paludis which I've had installed for a while and never used - mostly due to fear, nerves and a healthy dose of paranoia. One quick question first: If I switch to paludis, is it relatively[1] easy to revert back to portage in the event of $UNKNOWN_REASON? (I'm really just looking for a yes or no here) cheers alan [1] 'relative' is a relative term :-) If it's a similar order of magnitude as say the expat, xorg7 and gcc3.3 - 3.4 scenarios or mistakenly emerging busybox to / without symlinks on a production machine (yes, I did do that), then I'm happy to throw caution to the winds and deal with whatever happens/keep 2 broken pieces -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] building a box for Gentoo (update)
Am Montag 27 August 2007 05:44:55 schrieb Philip Webb: 070826 Aaron Clark wrote: On 20-Aug-07, at 3:06 PM, Philip Webb wrote: (1bd) The mobo listed is described on the ASUS site under 'VGA' as Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100 integrated High-definition video processing with maximum resolution 2048 x 1536 bpp @ 75 Hz ; maximum shared memory 256 MB ; supports OpenGL 1.5, Pixel Shader 2.0 . It appears that with this mobo I don't need a separate graphics card unless I want very high-performance gaming or similar; also, it uses open-source drivers (can anyone confirm?). I've only had experience with the Intel GMA 950, which Lspci lists as Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller: it's worked fantastic for me so far with the opensource driver on a Fedora 7 box. In xorg.conf, the driver is intel instead of i810; iirc the intel driver is newer and has better support for the newer chipsets. I've taken a further look around this deserves a new thread. Thanks for this info, which is also very useful. OTOH, I do have a couple of words of caution about the Motherboard. The new Intel chipsets do not provide an IDE controller so motherboard manufacturers have to go get a 3rd party IDE/PATA controller if they want that support on their Intel motherboards. My new HDD wb SATA : does that need an IDE controller ? There wb a DVD/CD-RW drive too : perhaps that might need one ? It's not an issue I've encountered before. If you buy new drives, buy SATA. Although IDE is fast enough for optical drives, the cables block the airflow in your case and with SATA you don't need to think about hdparm tuning, jumpers and such like. Furthermore the next generation of mainboards might not have IDE controllers at all! The drive you've listed in your original post is SATA. I've got the same and although I experienced some trouble (after trying udftools it did no longer react to any commands) it should work out of the box. Do you use floppy drives? They should use the IDE controller, too. I'm not sure, though. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] no shorewall
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, David Snider wrote: Anybody managed to get shorewall working with gentoo-sources 2.6.22-r5? I upgraded from 2.6.20, and there went the firewall. I used oldconfig I recently updated to 2.6.22-r5. Shorewall seems to be working great. No errors on startup. I can post my .config file if you would like. OK, thanks. My firewall is for a stand-alone workstation. Jorge -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Merlin XU870
Am Montag 27 August 2007 07:52:35 schrieb Michael Gisbers: Am Sonntag 26 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: Am Sonntag 26 August 2007 21:53:47 schrieb Michael Gisbers: Am Samstag 25 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: Am Mittwoch 22 August 2007 17:31:33 schrieb Florian Philipp: Am Mittwoch 22 August 2007 16:12:00 schrieb Michael Gisbers: Am Wednesday 22 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: Am Montag 20 August 2007 14:11:55 schrieb Michael Gisbers: Am Montag 20 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: Hmm ... this morning I've got the idea that maybe USB selective suspend/resume and wakeup is the problem but disabling it didn't change anything. At least it's not a gentoo-only problem. Knoppix didn't far any better. I'll try a second card, a second SIM card and a second laptop. In the meantime, could you please send me your kernel config? Thank you for your help! I sent you my .config by PM. Heureka, I've found it! I used kdiff to compare your kernel config with mine. Then I've set every option (even completely unrelated stuff like parallel port) with some minor exceptions to match your settings and now it works! That's fine. Could you find out which parameter you had to change to get it working? Not yet, among other things I suspect Elan PCMCIA CardBus Adapter USB Client as well as some settings concerning networking but there are really too many to be sure. I'll deactivate them over time and post it here. Okay, umtsmon needs to be root (I have to adjust permissions, I think) and I can't make a connection but I've got the same problem on Windows so it's most certainly ISP related. Which ISP do you use? E-Plus / Base. Tomorrow I'll drive to the next town and see if it works there. Just for the records: I'm now using the scripts provided by Novatel because umtsmon did not work (and because it was the only package requiring qt on my laptop). Now I'm connecting with pppd file /etc/ppp/hsdpa_options ttyUSB0 Because their scripts do not work as long as you have to enter a PIN, I've deactivated the PIN using my mobile phone (umtsmon or the Windows tool could have worked as well). For E-Plus / Base you need the following settings: APN:internet.eplus.de user: eplus password:internet number: *99***1# I'm still searching for the kernel option(s). What about setting PIN and setting it by using 'chat' just before starting pppd? (Don't try to use a pppd - chatscript. If your pin was already entered it fails with an error.) Some time ago I created a script to set PIN just after inserting my old umts - card. I'll have a look if I can find it in the archives. Are these PINs even considered save? This PIN is your SIM-PIN equal to that one you use for your mobile phone. Without PIN everyone can take your SIM-card, put it into his/her phone and use it. It may even be possible that one can use it to make phone calls. After you enter 3 false PINs your card gets locked and you have to unlock it by a super-PIN. So, if you decide to use your card without PIN and loose it. The finder will be overjoyed to get a PIN-less SIM and use it on your cost. I thought more about reading the PIN or its hash with a modified card reader but since I could not find any information about that, it might not be possible. In fact I'm not concerned about the actual use by some thiefs. It's a flat rate, phone calls should be impossible and SMS should still be protected by a second PIN. Furthermore I can lock the SIM as soon as I realize its theft. However, now that I think about it I'm worried that they could use the SIM for illegal activities and since I can be hold responsible if my unprotected WLAN is used for spamming, frauds, etc. it might be necessary to protect my SIM as well. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:29:58 +0200, Marc Joliet wrote: Yeah, I should have set noauto the instant I found out about it. Any other recommended mount options? Right now they are defaults,noauto,user_xattr 1 2 The trouble with using noauto is that sooner or later you will forget to mount /boot before installing a new kernel. I prefer to us ro instead, so /boot is mounted read-only. It still removes the possibility of corruption, but gives a clear error if you try to install a kernel without remounting rw. Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed with modern hardware. -- Neil Bothwick You know it's going to be a bad day when you forget your new password. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: building a box for Gentoo (update)
Florian Philipp f.philipp at addcom.de writes: If you buy new drives, buy SATA. Although IDE is fast enough for optical drives, the cables block the airflow in your case and with SATA you don't need to think about hdparm tuning, jumpers and such like. Sata has one property that is identical to IDE: Don't buy Western digital, if you want the drive to last a long time. ymmv, James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies from eclass and from ebuild
On Monday 27 August 2007 10:58:02 Alan McKinnon wrote: If I switch to paludis, is it relatively[1] easy to revert back to portage in the event of $UNKNOWN_REASON? (I'm really just looking for a yes or no here) [SNIP] [1] 'relative' is a relative term :-) If it's a similar order of magnitude as say the expat, xorg7 and gcc3.3 - 3.4 scenarios or mistakenly emerging busybox to / without symlinks on a production machine (yes, I did do that), then I'm happy to throw caution to the winds and deal with whatever happens/keep 2 broken pieces Heh. You can always enable portage_compatible if you want (see the configuration guide). The only real issue is keeping your Paludis and Portage configurations synchronized (unless you use the portage environment with Paludis)... So I'd definitely say, yes. -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] no shorewall
Jorge Almeida wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, David Snider wrote: Anybody managed to get shorewall working with gentoo-sources 2.6.22-r5? I upgraded from 2.6.20, and there went the firewall. I used oldconfig I recently updated to 2.6.22-r5. Shorewall seems to be working great. No errors on startup. I can post my .config file if you would like. OK, thanks. My firewall is for a stand-alone workstation. Jorge Here's my .config # # Automatically generated make config: don't edit # Linux kernel version: 2.6.22-gentoo-r5 # Sun Aug 26 20:36:52 2007 # CONFIG_X86_32=y CONFIG_GENERIC_TIME=y CONFIG_CLOCKSOURCE_WATCHDOG=y CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS=y CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS_BROADCAST=y CONFIG_LOCKDEP_SUPPORT=y CONFIG_STACKTRACE_SUPPORT=y CONFIG_SEMAPHORE_SLEEPERS=y CONFIG_X86=y CONFIG_MMU=y CONFIG_ZONE_DMA=y CONFIG_QUICKLIST=y CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y CONFIG_GENERIC_IOMAP=y CONFIG_GENERIC_BUG=y CONFIG_GENERIC_HWEIGHT=y CONFIG_ARCH_MAY_HAVE_PC_FDC=y CONFIG_DMI=y CONFIG_DEFCONFIG_LIST=/lib/modules/$UNAME_RELEASE/.config # # Code maturity level options # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y CONFIG_INIT_ENV_ARG_LIMIT=32 # # General setup # CONFIG_LOCALVERSION= CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO=y CONFIG_SWAP=y CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y # CONFIG_IPC_NS is not set CONFIG_SYSVIPC_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE=y # CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set # CONFIG_TASKSTATS is not set # CONFIG_UTS_NS is not set CONFIG_AUDIT=y CONFIG_AUDITSYSCALL=y CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=14 # CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED is not set # CONFIG_RELAY is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE= # CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE is not set CONFIG_SYSCTL=y # CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set CONFIG_UID16=y CONFIG_SYSCTL_SYSCALL=y CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y # CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS is not set CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y CONFIG_PRINTK=y CONFIG_BUG=y CONFIG_ELF_CORE=y CONFIG_BASE_FULL=y CONFIG_FUTEX=y CONFIG_ANON_INODES=y CONFIG_EPOLL=y CONFIG_SIGNALFD=y CONFIG_TIMERFD=y CONFIG_EVENTFD=y CONFIG_SHMEM=y CONFIG_VM_EVENT_COUNTERS=y CONFIG_SLAB=y # CONFIG_SLUB is not set # CONFIG_SLOB is not set CONFIG_RT_MUTEXES=y # CONFIG_TINY_SHMEM is not set CONFIG_BASE_SMALL=0 # # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD=y # CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is not set # CONFIG_MODULE_SRCVERSION_ALL is not set CONFIG_KMOD=y # # Block layer # CONFIG_BLOCK=y CONFIG_LBD=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IO_TRACE is not set # CONFIG_LSF is not set # # IO Schedulers # CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_CFQ=y CONFIG_DEFAULT_AS=y # CONFIG_DEFAULT_DEADLINE is not set # CONFIG_DEFAULT_CFQ is not set # CONFIG_DEFAULT_NOOP is not set CONFIG_DEFAULT_IOSCHED=anticipatory # # Processor type and features # CONFIG_TICK_ONESHOT=y CONFIG_NO_HZ=y CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS=y # CONFIG_SMP is not set CONFIG_X86_PC=y # CONFIG_X86_ELAN is not set # CONFIG_X86_VOYAGER is not set # CONFIG_X86_NUMAQ is not set # CONFIG_X86_SUMMIT is not set # CONFIG_X86_BIGSMP is not set # CONFIG_X86_VISWS is not set # CONFIG_X86_GENERICARCH is not set # CONFIG_X86_ES7000 is not set # CONFIG_PARAVIRT is not set # CONFIG_M386 is not set # CONFIG_M486 is not set # CONFIG_M586 is not set # CONFIG_M586TSC is not set # CONFIG_M586MMX is not set # CONFIG_M686 is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMII is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMM is not set # CONFIG_MCORE2 is not set CONFIG_MPENTIUM4=y # CONFIG_MK6 is not set # CONFIG_MK7 is not set # CONFIG_MK8 is not set # CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set # CONFIG_MEFFICEON is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set # CONFIG_MGEODEGX1 is not set # CONFIG_MGEODE_LX is not set # CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set # CONFIG_MVIAC3_2 is not set # CONFIG_MVIAC7 is not set # CONFIG_X86_GENERIC is not set CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=7 CONFIG_X86_XADD=y CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y # CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_ILOG2_U32 is not set # CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_ILOG2_U64 is not set CONFIG_GENERIC_CALIBRATE_DELAY=y CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_INTEL_USERCOPY=y CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y CONFIG_X86_TSC=y CONFIG_X86_CMOV=y CONFIG_X86_MINIMUM_CPU_MODEL=4 CONFIG_HPET_TIMER=y CONFIG_HPET_EMULATE_RTC=y CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE=y # CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY is not set # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC=y CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_MCE=y CONFIG_X86_MCE_NONFATAL=y CONFIG_X86_MCE_P4THERMAL=y CONFIG_VM86=y # CONFIG_TOSHIBA is not set # CONFIG_I8K is not set # CONFIG_X86_REBOOTFIXUPS is not set # CONFIG_MICROCODE is not set # CONFIG_X86_MSR is not set # CONFIG_X86_CPUID is not set # # Firmware Drivers # # CONFIG_EDD is not set # CONFIG_DELL_RBU is not set CONFIG_DCDBAS=m CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies from eclass and from ebuild
On Monday 27 August 2007 10:39:25 David Bonnafous wrote: After a sync (see below what and how) when I try to re-merge a package (same version) and emerge tell me that there is a dependency not satified I would like to know where this dependency come from. Because this is a new dependency, added after the sync by - a mistake I do (wrong /etc/portage/package.mask) Obviously a new dependency cannot come from a package.mask. I suppose this question relates to how to figure out whether a hardmasked package is masked due to a user mask, a repository mask or a profile mask (using the terms that Paludis use). With Portage (at least the latest version) you can see this from the path to the package.mask in the mask message. - a minor revison (new CVS version) of a ebuild not so minor - a modification of a eclass And my question is how to know is this new dependency comme from eclass, or more generaly what are the dependencies that come from eclass ? Stating the obvious (I think).. Any dependency that doesn't come from the ebuild comes from an eclass. Heh. Having said that... I know of no tool which can show which dependencies of a package come from the ebuild or which eclass each of the remaining deps come from. Still there are a couple of tools which might be of some help. Those include qgrep (portage-utils), dep (udept) and of course grep.. ;) What do you intend to do with this overlay? I intend to be able to maintain for a long time a set of package (ebuild and files) I use on my servers. I want to be able to recompile them as I need even if gentoo developers remove them from the official portage tree. It's still far from clear to me what the point of this exercise is. If the gentoo developers remove a package from the official tree then you still have unlimited access to the complete version history of said tree. Even though cvs may be a pain to work with it's not *that* hard. Why do you sync at all? In fact I have added --backup --backup-dir='/usr/local/portage' to the rsync options. Then after a sync I have in /usr/local/portage all the files that changed. So I clean up this tree (remove eclass directory, redundant package ebuild,...). One other option you do have is to import the tree to a more useful revision control system and try to keep them synced (although obviously you wouldn't get every cvs revision).. -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Default group for users
Hi All, I have a box which until recently had only one user. When I created this user as e.g. user_name1 his home became owned by user_name1:users. This cascaded to directories below /home/user_name1. No directory called user_name1 was created at the time. More recently, I created a new user, user_name2 and the ownership of /home/user_name2 became user_name2:user_name2 (the latter being a group for user_name2). Is this how it should be these days? If so then I assume that this is because of changes in the skeleton file over the years. Meanwhile /home looks like this: drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 216 Dec 24 2006 home Is this also what your /home looks like? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?
On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed with modern hardware. Please tell us more. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] The big clean up
On Monday 27 August 2007 03:28:34 W.Kenworthy wrote: Some files did turn out to be from currently installed packages (curl, gnuplot, glade, ...) that revdep-rebuild didnt pick up - a bit of a worry ... Probably the most reliable version of revdep-rebuild currently in the tree is in gentoolkit 0.2.4_pre5. Might want to use that for a while. Also /etc/revdep-rebuild/ contains some files that affect what revdep-rebuild finds. Is there a script that uses the equery check functionality and lists both broken packages and orphans in the system directories not accounted for? - this seems like a good start. I'm sure there are some nasty scripts flowing around on the forums. qcheck -a and qfile -o are available in portage-utils, however, there are *lots* af files not owned by any package that are essential on a gentoo system. Proceed with extreme caution.. ;) -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?
Hello Mick, Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed with modern hardware. Please tell us more. A separate /boot is to get round BIOS limitation that prevent accessing beyond the first so many cylinders (1024?) of a drive, so it was essential to have the kernel stored within that area of the disk. That's why the Gentoo handbooks only recommend a separate /boot for certain architectures, basically x86-based ones. For other architectures, like PPC, the handbook does not suggest using /boot, at least it didn't when I installed on this iBook. -- Neil Bothwick Of all the people I've met you're certainly one of them. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Default group for users
On Monday 27 August 2007, Mick wrote: Hi All, I have a box which until recently had only one user. When I created this user as e.g. user_name1 his home became owned by user_name1:users. This cascaded to directories below /home/user_name1. No directory called user_name1 was created at the time. More recently, I created a new user, user_name2 and the ownership of /home/user_name2 became user_name2:user_name2 (the latter being a group for user_name2). Is this how it should be these days? If so then I assume that this is because of changes in the skeleton file over the years. There's two ways of doing this, either new users all have the same inital primary group, or they get one based on their user name. The second is preferred as homw dirs are then not open by default like they would be if they were all owned by the users groups, and the user sets a umask of 0002 You can actually do it any way you want and that suits your needs, but the current gentoo default is a sane default. CHange it if you want with the usual tools to manipulate /etc/passwd|group|shadow|gshadow Meanwhile /home looks like this: drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 216 Dec 24 2006 home Yes, that is correct. Only root can create users so only root has the ability to write to /home to create the home dirs. Everyone else can still cd and ls /home, as they need that to navigate to lower directories alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies from eclass and from ebuild
On Monday 27 August 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Monday 27 August 2007 10:58:02 Alan McKinnon wrote: If I switch to paludis, is it relatively[1] easy to revert back to portage in the event of $UNKNOWN_REASON? (I'm really just looking for a yes or no here) [SNIP] [1] 'relative' is a relative term :-) If it's a similar order of magnitude as say the expat, xorg7 and gcc3.3 - 3.4 scenarios or mistakenly emerging busybox to / without symlinks on a production machine (yes, I did do that), then I'm happy to throw caution to the winds and deal with whatever happens/keep 2 broken pieces Heh. You can always enable portage_compatible if you want (see the configuration guide). The only real issue is keeping your Paludis and Portage configurations synchronized (unless you use the portage environment with Paludis)... So I'd definitely say, yes. Magic, maybe now that emerge spinner will take itself out of my life :-) /me goes looking for a few spare hours in the calendar... alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?
On Monday 27 August 2007, Mick wrote: On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed with modern hardware. Please tell us more. Many many many years ago, back in the dark days of small drives and broken BIOSes, we all had a little problem at boot time. The BIOS was unable to read anything on the disk beyond what it thought was cylinder 1024 (it was a BIOS hard limit). So, no boot loader could find a kernel anywhere beyond that cylinder and if you weren't careful to make 100% sure the boot loader could find the kernel image, then the machine wouldn't boot. The solution is to create a small partition of around 50M-100M and make it the first. if you put your kernel images there, you are guaranteed that the BIOS will find them. Nowadays of course we know better. We still build drives with insane geometries, but they are saner than way back then. Today's boot loaders still have to cope with the insane x86 architecture, 16 bit code and all sorts of other wierd legacy baggage, but we did at least solve the hard drive limits thing. This happened around 1995 and no pc machine made since then has this problem that I have ever seen, so you don't really need a separate /boot for that reason. Some people still prefer to do it though. Most of them are like me (i.e. slightly off our rockers) are do stuff like 2 Linux OSs on one box, or just simply prefer to have the kernel images nice and safe in unwritable locations at run time. The first scenario is much easier with a shared /boot as you don't have to tiptoe around two / directories or get into silly schemes with two grubs, one in the MBR, one in a partition's boot sector and one of them the master (and then forget which one that was) So there are good reasons for a separate /boot, but hardware limits isn't one of them. Unfortunately we have not yet taken this to it's logical conclusion yetand rid the planet entirely of that beast who should not be suffered to live called the BIOS But that's a different thread for a different time. alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't install Gentoo on Dell Inspiron 530
Hi, On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 23:22:56 -0400 Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that I have a working keyboard and a busybox shell, I'm trying to mount a USB key. I did... mknod /dev/sda b 8 0 mknod /dev/sda1 b 8 1 ...inserted a USB key, and tried mounting it. dmesg indicates that the USB driver did find sda and sda1. However, the mount command always fails with a cryptic, and useless, error message. Is there an example somewhere of how busybox's mount command works? Or does it not support msdos or vfat filesystem types? FS support has got to be inside the kernel. When module autoloading doesn't work, you'll have to make sure that everything needed is present. While the mount error message might be useless, is there any reasonable error report in dmesg? BTW, you can mount /proc and then look for PCI dev information and partitioning information there. $ mount -t proc none /proc $ cat /proc/bus/pci/devices (vendor/device string is on position 2) $ cat /proc/partitions and $ cat /proc/filesystems are your friends. -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant+ndiswrapper, Dell E1505, Broadcom 4311 wireless problem
The following lines worries me a bit. On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 12:16:23AM -0400, Penguin Lover Lingyun Yang squawked: Starting AP scan (specific SSID) Scan SSID - hexdump_ascii(len=6): 41 50 54 32 32 42 APT22B Trying to get current scan results first without requesting a new scan to speed up initial association ioctl[SIOCGIWSCAN]: Resource temporarily unavailable Scan results: -1 Failed to get scan results Failed to get scan results - try scanning again Setting scan request: 0 sec 0 usec Starting AP scan (broadcast SSID) Scan timeout - try to get results ioctl[SIOCGIWSCAN]: Resource temporarily unavailable Scan results: -1 Failed to get scan results Failed to get scan results - try scanning again The resource temporarily unavailable error is probably not good. Two things you can try: 1) Can you even scan the network (without using wpa_supplicant). If you have wireless-tools installed (you should), after loading the kernel module, try running 'iwlist eth1 scan', does it produce a nice list of the cells in your area? 2) Is this a WPA problem or a problem on hardware/driver? Can you connect to other types of networks? Unencrypted? WEP? Dmesg output in regards to the bcm43xx driver and possibly softmac would also be useful. How did you install the 4311 drivers? Try following the directions here? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-409194-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-0.html Best of luck, W -- Cross Product is an Abomination. ~Prof. Edward Nelson. MAT 217. P-Town Sortir en Pantoufles: up 262 days, 14:04 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Shutting down WLAN and network
Hi! I've already tried my luck on gentoo-laptop but that list seems to be dead. Is there a neat and easy way to shut down the ethernet and WLAN adapters of my notebook when I don't need them? Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Shutting down WLAN and network
Am Montag 27 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: Hi! I've already tried my luck on gentoo-laptop but that list seems to be dead. Is there a neat and easy way to shut down the ethernet and WLAN adapters of my notebook when I don't need them? Hi, it's me again ;-) Do you want to shut them down completely (rmmod etc.) or do you only want them to standby until it is needed (network plug)? If you are thinking about the second have a look on sys-apps/netplug and sys-apps/ifplugd. I'm using netplug for my eth0 and my hardware-switch for wlan0. ;-) -- Michael Gisbers http://www.lugor.de signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] [solved] Re: gensplash problem with X
Marc Blumentritt schrieb: Hi, when I boot my new system with gensplash, the console is OK up until X is started via gdm. Afterward all consoles are smeared and broken. Starting X via startx results in a similar problem plus X is not starting. I try to give you all relevant data in the hopes to get some clues for my problem. System is stable (kernel 2.6.22-r2, xorg-x11 7.2), I'm using a Nvidia 8500GT (nvidia-drivers 100.14.09). Framebuffer is vesafb with these relevant kernel options vga=0x318 video=vesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap splash=silent,theme:AquaMatrix CONSOLE=/dev/tty1. Updating to the newest nvidia driver (100.14.11) solved my problem. Regards, Marc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Default group for users
On Monday 27 August 2007, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag, 27. August 2007 schrieb ext Mick: I have a box which until recently had only one user. When I created this user as e.g. user_name1 his home became owned by user_name1:users. This cascaded to directories below /home/user_name1. No directory called user_name1 was created at the time. Would you mind telling us _how_ you created this user? Just like the handbook told me to, but that was something like 4 years ago. Something I need to say here is that a couple of years after I created the user, I restored the system from tar files using a Knoppix CD. Not sure if this messed things up (e.g. at some point I discovered that my /home directory was set as drwxr_xr_t). More recently, I created a new user, user_name2 and the ownership of /home/user_name2 became user_name2:user_name2 (the latter being a group for user_name2). see above. # useradd -m -G users,wheel,audio,plugdev -s /bin/bash user_name -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Shutting down WLAN and network
On 8/27/07, Michael Gisbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag 27 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: Hi! I've already tried my luck on gentoo-laptop but that list seems to be dead. Is there a neat and easy way to shut down the ethernet and WLAN adapters of my notebook when I don't need them? Hi, it's me again ;-) Do you want to shut them down completely (rmmod etc.) or do you only want them to standby until it is needed (network plug)? If you are thinking about the second have a look on sys-apps/netplug and sys-apps/ifplugd. I'm using netplug for my eth0 and my hardware-switch for wlan0. ;-) -- Michael Gisbers http://www.lugor.de Perhaps a stupid remark, but most laptops are supported with a wireless hardware on/off button. Your wireless adapter will be shut down for sure then. -- :3 )~ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Default group for users
On Monday 27 August 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 27 August 2007, Mick wrote: Hi All, I have a box which until recently had only one user. When I created this user as e.g. user_name1 his home became owned by user_name1:users. This cascaded to directories below /home/user_name1. No directory called user_name1 was created at the time. More recently, I created a new user, user_name2 and the ownership of /home/user_name2 became user_name2:user_name2 (the latter being a group for user_name2). Is this how it should be these days? If so then I assume that this is because of changes in the skeleton file over the years. There's two ways of doing this, either new users all have the same inital primary group, or they get one based on their user name. The second is preferred as homw dirs are then not open by default like they would be if they were all owned by the users groups, and the user sets a umask of 0002 From what you're saying the current default Gentoo set up is to have a separate primary group, based on the user's name. Was this the case 3-4 years ago? You can actually do it any way you want and that suits your needs, but the current gentoo default is a sane default. CHange it if you want with the usual tools to manipulate /etc/passwd|group|shadow|gshadow I am aware of these files, but what tools are the usual tools? Thanks for all the answers. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] no shorewall
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, David Snider wrote: Here's my .config Thanks, David. Your configuration works for me. Meanwhile, I ended up by selecting all modules in my former config, even those that are plainly irrelevant (according to the help in menuconfig) and shorewall now starts OK. I just wish I were any wiser, which I'm not. Cheers, Jorge -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?
On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:29:58 +0200, Marc Joliet wrote: Yeah, I should have set noauto the instant I found out about it. Any other recommended mount options? Right now they are defaults,noauto,user_xattr 1 2 The trouble with using noauto is that sooner or later you will forget to mount /boot before installing a new kernel. I prefer to us ro instead, so /boot is mounted read-only. It still removes the possibility of corruption, but gives a clear error if you try to install a kernel without remounting rw. Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed with modern hardware. Thank you all for your explanations. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Shutting down WLAN and network
Am Montag 27 August 2007 19:45:47 schrieb Noud Aldenhoven: On 8/27/07, Michael Gisbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag 27 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: Hi! I've already tried my luck on gentoo-laptop but that list seems to be dead. Is there a neat and easy way to shut down the ethernet and WLAN adapters of my notebook when I don't need them? Hi, it's me again ;-) Do you want to shut them down completely (rmmod etc.) or do you only want them to standby until it is needed (network plug)? If you are thinking about the second have a look on sys-apps/netplug and sys-apps/ifplugd. I'm using netplug for my eth0 and my hardware-switch for wlan0. ;-) -- Michael Gisbers http://www.lugor.de Perhaps a stupid remark, but most laptops are supported with a wireless hardware on/off button. Your wireless adapter will be shut down for sure then. Yes, but it's just a simple hotkey (Fn+F2) and it does not seem to work. I think I'll create three runlevels: default for dhcp, home for static ip and routing and nonetwork. Maybe I can use netplug for automatically switching to nonetwork. At the moment I'm thinking about the init-scripts necessary to load and unload the network drivers, network profiles etc. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] no shorewall
Jorge Almeida wrote: Meanwhile, I ended up by selecting all modules in my former config, even those that are plainly irrelevant (according to the help in menuconfig) and shorewall now starts OK. I just wish I were any wiser, which I'm not. Sure you are. You've learned that shorewall sets up rules that are plainly irrelevant. :) Benno -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant issues
What pid does it get when you stop the process and start a new one; 5872 or is that only when you first start up? I had a problem similar to that a while ago but I haven't used my wireless card in ages... On 8/22/07, Daniel V. Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use wpa_supplicant with madwifi and everything works perfectly with one strange exception. At boot time, when net.ath0 tries to start, it complains that the address is still in use and doesn't start! I look at the process list and find wpa_supplicant is always running when I start. Interesting, also, is the fact that it is always running with the same pid (5872). I can stop the process and net.ath0 starts perfectly. I've checked over the configuration and all is well, and I've looked over the logs and nothing seems askew. Hell, I can't even find the error in the logs... This means, unfortunately, that I have nothing to present in the way of an error... I do remember that the error at boot has something to do with wpa_ctrl. I hope you fine fellows can piece something together with this or give me some documentation I might read. Thanks.
Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?
On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?': Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed with modern hardware. Unless you want to use LVM. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Java Version
Abraham Marín Pérez wrote: The instructions on Gentoo's site differ a bit from the actual results. eselect java-nsplugin list results as below Available 32-bit Java browser plugins Available 64-bit Java browser plugins No numbered options as to choose one. I am on AMD64 and using the 64 bit version, so I figured the 64-bit version should support the 64 bit firefox compiled? There are no number options because you don't seem to have any Java browser plugin available. This is the output I get when I run eselect java-nsplugin list: Available Java browser plugins [1] sun-jdk-1.5 current Since I have sun-jdk available. Could you please run both eix ^jre$ and eix ^jdk$ and post the output? Abraham Hello Abraham, Sorry for the slow reply, been away for about a week. Anyway, I have since recalled the nspluginwrapper package since last I was here, so all but my java plugin appears. Your eix commands do not work, but here is the output of java -version java version 1.5.0_12 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_12-b04) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.5.0_12-b04, mixed mode) I saw the other posting of no 64 bit java plugin, but how is the above of Available 64-bit Java browser plugins listed? I still get the above in response of eselect java-nsplugin list Available 32-bit Java browser plugins Available 64-bit Java browser plugins Thanks Sean -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote on 27/08/07 22:52: On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?': Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed with modern hardware. Unless you want to use LVM. Trying to boot a partition which starts above the 160GB BIOS limit won't work either. Grub cannot cope with it. Creating a small boot partition under the 160GB line got the system booted fine. Cheers, Dave -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:52:39 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed with modern hardware. Unless you want to use LVM. In which case it's just as easy to use a small root partition, including /boot, /lib, /bin etc. and shove everything else onto LVM. Either way, you still need one non-LVM partition, but making it root removes the need for an initrd. There are always at least two ways of doing things, and the other way is generally considered inferior :) -- Neil Bothwick This virus requires Microsoft Windows XP signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] no shorewall
Checking the obvious: you have gone through and manually checked that the modules are still being built? There has been some renaming going on within netfilter that just using oldconfig misses a few (leaves them unselected, but didnt ask if I wanted them built). Not sure which kernel versions were involved but its recent, and caught me out - I was using the monmotha script at the time and the error messages were a good pointer. Is dmesg showing anything after applying shorewall? BillK On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 08:43 +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, W.Kenworthy wrote: No problems on multiple systems built using oldconfig and not rebuilding iptables. OK, that means it's not some problem related with gentoo-sources patches. In the kernel I turn everything on by default and build it modular - this might be the cause for you? I don't think so. I have everything as module. Some modules (very few, related to hw I don't have) I didn't select, but they were never needed with former kernel versions... Thanks. Jorge -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] [maybe solved] Can't install Gentoo on Dell Inspiron 530
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote I got a shiny new Dell Inspiron from the PC fairy. Windows Vista works OK (at least good enough for Windows). It does not want to be formattedg. I insert the latest minimal install CD, and things start off OK at the beginning of the boot process. *THE USB KEYBOARD WORKS OK AT THE BEGINNING* I can type in gentoo or gentoo-nofb. A bunch of modules load, and eventually we get to the default keymap stage, at which point, things fall apart. 1) The keyboard (USB) now types each character twice. If I attempt to type 41, it comes out as 4411, and the install program complains about an invalid keymap number. 2) Even though the CD managed to boot initially, it now complains about not being able to find any bootable medium. Finally getting somewhere. Checked dell.com's support knowledgebase. Only the most recent kernels support SATA drives in IDE mode, and it looks like the Gentoo 2007.0-r1 kernel isn't recent enough. After screwing around a bit, I finally found a way to boot the CD. I don't know if the following will boot the hard drive when I finish, but at least... 1) It fixes the keyboard without passing extra parameters 2) It does recognize my CD/DVD drives as /dev/sro and /dev/sr1 and the hard drive as /dev/sda. I was able to mount the hard drive and found command.com and a whole bunch of .exe and .bat files. This is the pre- installed Vista. The following instructions apply to my Dell Inspiron 530. YMMV for other models. ***WARNING*** You will *NOT* be able to boot Windows in the following setup (One... Two... Three... aww) - reboot and go into BIOS setup (usually {F2} key) - go to integrated peripherals - change sata mode from IDE to RAID - save and reboot (usually {F10} key) - go into BIOS setup (usually {F2} key). Yes again. - comment; if you watch carefully during the boot, you may notice the AHCI BIOS installed message. - go into boot device configuration. It will behave slightly differently thanks to AHCI BIOS being installed. - set boot device priority. Note; if you have more than 1 CD/DVD, you need to specify them separately, if you want to be able to boot off both of them. There are only 3 available slots, so I sacrificed the floppy. This left me with the 2 CD/DVD drives and the hard drive as the boot order - save and reboot (usually {F10} key) I'll report back later if the install works. The knowledgebase article recommeded a bare install, a file dump of the install CD, and then rebuild and burn the install CD, with the latest kernel. If I can avoid that, I'll leave the drive in RAID mode. Just call me lazy. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 Q. Mr. Ghandi, what do you think of Microsoft security? A. I think it would be a good idea. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: FQDN v. localhost
Here's what I did, but I didn't do all of the steps specified. Is this correct? I want to configure a FQDN for leafnode: localhost ~ # localhost ~ # localhost ~ # localhost ~ # cat /etc/conf.d/net # This blank configuration will automatically use DHCP for any net.* # scripts in /etc/init.d. To create a more complete configuration, # please review /etc/conf.d/net.example and save your configuration # in /etc/conf.d/net (this file :]!). iface_eth1=dhcp dhcpcd_eth1= localhost ~ # localhost ~ # cat /etc/conf.d/hostname #HOSTNAME=livecd #HOSTNAME=localhost arrakis.doesntexist.org HOSTNAME=arrakis #HOSTNAME=localhost localhost ~ # localhost ~ # cat /etc/hosts # /etc/hosts: Local Host Database # # This file describes a number of aliases-to-address mappings for the for # local hosts that share this file. # # In the presence of the domain name service or NIS, this file may not be # consulted at all; see /etc/host.conf for the resolution order. # # IPv4 and IPv6 localhost aliases #127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.2.110 arrakis.doesntexist.org arrakis ::1 localhost # # Imaginary network. #10.0.0.2 myname #10.0.0.3 myfriend # # According to RFC 1918, you can use the following IP networks for private # nets which will never be connected to the Internet: # # 10.0.0.0- 10.255.255.255 # 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 # 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 # # In case you want to be able to connect directly to the Internet (i.e. not # behind a NAT, ADSL router, etc...), you need real official assigned # numbers. Do not try to invent your own network numbers but instead get one # from your network provider (if any) or from your regional registry (ARIN, # APNIC, LACNIC, RIPE NCC, or AfriNIC.) # localhost ~ # localhost ~ # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart * Caching service dependencies ... [ ok ] * Stopping apache2 ... [ ok ] * Unmounting network filesystems ... [ ok ] * Stopping eth0 * Bringing down eth0 * Stopping dhcpcd on eth0 ...[ ok ] * Shutting down eth0 ... [ ok ] * Starting eth0 * Configuration not set for eth0 - assuming DHCP * Bringing up eth0 * dhcp * Running dhcpcd ... [ ok ] * eth0 received address 192.168.2.110/24 * Mounting network filesystems ... [ ok ] * Starting apache2 ... [ ok ] localhost ~ # localhost ~ # localhost ~ # hostname -vf gethostname()=`arrakis' Resolving `arrakis' ... Result: h_name=`arrakis.doesntexist.org' Result: h_aliases=`arrakis' Result: h_addr_list=`192.168.2.110' arrakis.doesntexist.org localhost ~ # localhost ~ # date Mon Aug 27 19:07:10 PDT 2007 localhost ~ # localhost ~ # thanks, Thufir -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant issues
On 8/27/07, Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What pid does it get when you stop the process and start a new one; 5872 or is that only when you first start up? I had a problem similar to that a while ago but I haven't used my wireless card in ages... On 8/22/07, Daniel V. Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use wpa_supplicant with madwifi and everything works perfectly with one strange exception. At boot time, when net.ath0 tries to start, it complains that the address is still in use and doesn't start! I look at the process list and find wpa_supplicant is always running when I start. Interesting, also, is the fact that it is always running with the same pid (5872). I can stop the process and net.ath0 starts perfectly. I've checked over the configuration and all is well, and I've looked over the logs and nothing seems askew. Hell, I can't even find the error in the logs... This means, unfortunately, that I have nothing to present in the way of an error... I do remember that the error at boot has something to do with wpa_ctrl. I hope you fine fellows can piece something together with this or give me some documentation I might read. Thanks. No, it's always 5872. Before and after startup. Glad you could make it :D -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!
Hi guys: I wouldn't like, but i have to say that all current available linux desktop search engines are rubbish. Keep reading, and you'll know why. 1. Beagle is full of buggy. Can you imagine what makes a software consumes five hundrend Megabits of memory? On my system, this beast consumes almost all of memory and makes my swap half full. Besides, it also monopolizes CPU and makes my system unusable. When you search something, beagle gives you some hints which is not good enough. Beagle can search chm, pdf etc. files. 2. Tracker is boasting itself of consuming little system resource and quick responding speed. It's true when compared with beagle and google desktop search. It consumes about twenty five megabits on idle state and gives you something in an acceptable time. But what can be called a search engine when it returns nothing you want? In other hand, tracker can't index chm file. 3. Google desktop search is heavy like beagle. It makes my system so slow that I wonder whether it is the product of google. It is source closed and only binary distributed. But this is unimportant, and who will be interested in the source of such ugly software :-) In one word, there is no useable desktop search engine for linux. -- Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!
On Dienstag, 28. August 2007, Shaochun Wang wrote: Hi guys: I wouldn't like, but i have to say that all current available linux desktop search engines are rubbish. Keep reading, and you'll know why. 1. Beagle is full of buggy. Can you imagine what makes a software consumes five hundrend Megabits of memory? On my system, this beast consumes almost all of memory and makes my swap half full. Besides, it also monopolizes CPU and makes my system unusable. When you search something, beagle gives you some hints which is not good enough. Beagle can search chm, pdf etc. files. 2. Tracker is boasting itself of consuming little system resource and quick responding speed. It's true when compared with beagle and google desktop search. It consumes about twenty five megabits on idle state and gives you something in an acceptable time. But what can be called a search engine when it returns nothing you want? In other hand, tracker can't index chm file. 3. Google desktop search is heavy like beagle. It makes my system so slow that I wonder whether it is the product of google. It is source closed and only binary distributed. But this is unimportant, and who will be interested in the source of such ugly software :-) In one word, there is no useable desktop search engine for linux. -- Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] they are called 'locate', 'find' and 'grep'. If you know how to use them, you'll have a lot of fun. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!
Quoting Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: there is no useable desktop search engine for linux. That's the best thing about opensource!!! Code one yourself :-P This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Shutting down WLAN and network
Am Montag 27 August 2007 schrieb Noud Aldenhoven: On 8/27/07, Michael Gisbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag 27 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: Hi! I've already tried my luck on gentoo-laptop but that list seems to be dead. Is there a neat and easy way to shut down the ethernet and WLAN adapters of my notebook when I don't need them? Hi, it's me again ;-) Do you want to shut them down completely (rmmod etc.) or do you only want them to standby until it is needed (network plug)? If you are thinking about the second have a look on sys-apps/netplug and sys-apps/ifplugd. I'm using netplug for my eth0 and my hardware-switch for wlan0. ;-) -- Michael Gisbers http://www.lugor.de Perhaps a stupid remark, but most laptops are supported with a wireless hardware on/off button. Your wireless adapter will be shut down for sure then. Like you say: most laptops. Even newer laptops don't support keyboard shortcuts running with linux. And some laptops even don't start with wireless enabled. -- Michael Gisbers http://www.lugor.de signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.