[gentoo-user] Python 2.7 support

2009-12-07 Thread Xavier Parizet
Hi list, I eard some (long) time ago that portage is not compatible with python 2.7, so i masked it (python) in /etc/portage/package.mask. What i would like to know now is is portage now compatible with this version of python ? Or if not, where can i follow the status of this compatibility ? I

Re: [gentoo-user] startup script use the wrong find command

2009-12-07 Thread Xi Shen
yes i use / on LVM. i just cannot understand why the busybox in the initramfs that genkernel generates works fine, while mine reports error. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 07 December 2009 03:00:29 Xi Shen wrote: yes, i installed busybox

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug

2009-12-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 11:53:41 +0900, daid kahl wrote: On that note, I'd like to ask a question I was going to post or email about. Can I comment the world file. More interestingly, is there a way to pass portage a comment to stick in world above the package? This would be really damn useful.

Re: [gentoo-user] Python 2.7 support

2009-12-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 07 December 2009 11:28:07 Xavier Parizet wrote: Hi list, I eard some (long) time ago that portage is not compatible with python 2.7, so i masked it (python) in /etc/portage/package.mask. What i would like to know now is is portage now compatible with this version of python ? Or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug

2009-12-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:15:29 -0600, Dale wrote: Good catch Volker. I didn't notice that part. He needs to become very familiar with the -1 option but even that is not good in every case. If it is a package that needs to be in world, then that option shouldn't be used either otherwise a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug

2009-12-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 14:49:44 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: I know that from my home-made list of pkgs which I have installed, where they are marked with 'W' system pkgs with 'S'. Yes, I do have to keep it upto-date as I do emerges. One of the major deficiencies of Gentoo is that it doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Acer Core2Duo only sees 3G of RAM

2009-12-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 22:00:00 -0800, Drew wrote: Isn't the memory hole above 3GB present even in the 64bit systems? Something about the MMIO reservations for the PCI bus taking up the top gig of the first four Gigs? That's the case with some hardware, like my Asus motherboard. It was fixed by

[gentoo-user] Re: Python 2.7 support

2009-12-07 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Xavier Parizet (Mon, 07 Dec 2009 10:28:07 +0100) I eard some (long) time ago that portage is not compatible with python 2.7, so i masked it (python) in /etc/portage/package.mask. What i would like to know now is is portage now compatible with this version of python ? Or if not, where

Re: [gentoo-user] Python 3 support [was: Python 2.7 support]

2009-12-07 Thread Xavier Parizet
Xavier Parizet a écrit : Hi list, I eard some (long) time ago that portage is not compatible with python 2.7, so i masked it (python) in /etc/portage/package.mask. What i would like to know now is is portage now compatible with this version of python ? Or if not, where can i follow the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug

2009-12-07 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:15:29 -0600, Dale wrote: Good catch Volker. I didn't notice that part. He needs to become very familiar with the -1 option but even that is not good in every case. If it is a package that needs to be in world, then that option shouldn't be used

Re: [gentoo-user] Python 3 support [was: Python 2.7 support]

2009-12-07 Thread Dale
Xavier Parizet wrote: Xavier Parizet a écrit : Hi list, I eard some (long) time ago that portage is not compatible with python 2.7, so i masked it (python) in /etc/portage/package.mask. What i would like to know now is is portage now compatible with this version of python ? Or if not, where

Re: [gentoo-user] Python 3 support [was: Python 2.7 support]

2009-12-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 07 December 2009 13:11:52 Xavier Parizet wrote: Xavier Parizet a écrit : Hi list, I eard some (long) time ago that portage is not compatible with python 2.7, so i masked it (python) in /etc/portage/package.mask. What i would like to know now is is portage now compatible with

Re: [gentoo-user] Python 3 support [was: Python 2.7 support]

2009-12-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 12:11 +0100, Xavier Parizet wrote: Sorry but instead of python 2.7 (which does not exists), i was talking about python 3 support in portage. Is it safe to remove earlier version of python to only keep version 3 ? No. When you installed python3 it pretty much tells you

Re: [gentoo-user] Python 2.7 support

2009-12-07 Thread Dale
Albert Hopkins wrote: If it were buggy the Gentoo devs would have masked it for you ;-) -a And they devs have done so. Python 3 is masked and even keyworded. It is a hint at least. Dale :-) :-)

[gentoo-user] Re: Sound card is only usable by one application at a time

2009-12-07 Thread 7v5w7go9ub0o
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: You *might* want to look into OSS4 if your card is supported by it :P It will require a rebuild of many packages though (oss -alsa in make.conf) and it requires using non-portage packages from an overlay and rebuilding your kernel with sound support completely

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing

2009-12-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: So it seems to be related to xorg-server here. I will do some more tests to filter things out a bit closer. This will maybe allow me to file a meaningful bug. For the records: 1.7.2 has been dropped because of that Video ABI stuff, 1.7.3 is stable for me since

Re: [gentoo-user] Python 2.7 support

2009-12-07 Thread Xavier Parizet
Dale a écrit : Albert Hopkins wrote: If it were buggy the Gentoo devs would have masked it for you ;-) -a And they devs have done so. Python 3 is masked and even keyworded. It is a hint at least. Dale :-) :-) Thanks all for your answers. Anyway, is there a mean to be kept

Re: [gentoo-user] Python 2.7 support

2009-12-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:41:02 -0600, Dale wrote: And they devs have done so. Python 3 is masked and even keyworded. It is a hint at least. It's keyworded, but not masked. The recommendation, for ~arch users, is that you have it installed but leave 2.6 as the default. -- Neil Bothwick Age

Re: [gentoo-user] Python 2.7 support

2009-12-07 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:41:02 -0600, Dale wrote: And they devs have done so. Python 3 is masked and even keyworded. It is a hint at least. It's keyworded, but not masked. The recommendation, for ~arch users, is that you have it installed but leave 2.6 as the

[gentoo-user] How can I solve emerge @preserved-rebuild loop?

2009-12-07 Thread Jarry
Hi, I update my server quite frequently without any problem, but today after running emerge -uDN world I got these messages: - !!! existing preserved libs: package: sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.9 * - /lib64/libuuid.so * used by /bin/mount (sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1) * used by

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I solve emerge @preserved-rebuild loop?

2009-12-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 07 December 2009 20:10:31 Jarry wrote: Hi, I update my server quite frequently without any problem, but today after running emerge -uDN world I got these messages: - !!! existing preserved libs: package: sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.9 * - /lib64/libuuid.so *

[gentoo-user] Why exactly am I supposed to install Python 3?

2009-12-07 Thread Grant Edwards
My most recent update displayed the following messages from Python 2.6.4 and Python 2.4.6: It is highly recommended to additionally install Python 3, Why is it highly recommended? I use a lot of modules that aren't support by Python 3, and AFAICT few of the system applications will even work

[gentoo-user] Re: Sound card is only usable by one application at a time

2009-12-07 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 12/07/2009 03:24 PM, 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: You *might* want to look into OSS4 if your card is supported by it :P It will require a rebuild of many packages though (oss -alsa in make.conf) and it requires using non-portage packages from an overlay and rebuilding your

Re: [gentoo-user] Why exactly am I supposed to install Python 3?

2009-12-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 07 December 2009 22:24:14 Grant Edwards wrote: My most recent update displayed the following messages from Python 2.6.4 and Python 2.4.6: It is highly recommended to additionally install Python 3, Why is it highly recommended? I use a lot of modules that aren't support by

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I solve emerge @preserved-rebuild loop?

2009-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I update my server quite frequently without any problem, but today after running emerge -uDN world I got these messages: - !!! existing preserved libs: package: sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.9  *  - /lib64/libuuid.so  

Re: [gentoo-user] Python 2.7 support

2009-12-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:47:41 -0600, Dale wrote: It's keyworded, but not masked. The recommendation, for ~arch users, is that you have it installed but leave 2.6 as the default. It shows this here: [M~] dev-lang/python-3.1.1-r1 (3.1) Isn't that masked and keyworded? I'm x86 here and

Re: [gentoo-user] Why exactly am I supposed to install Python 3?

2009-12-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:10:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: The only benefit, which is questionable, is that python-3 is where its at development-wise, and maybe perhaps the 2* series will become unmaintained (shades of KDE-3). But I suspect that day is still far off. Also, as things are able to

[gentoo-user] Re: Why exactly am I supposed to install Python 3?

2009-12-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-12-07, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 07 December 2009 22:24:14 Grant Edwards wrote: My most recent update displayed the following messages from Python 2.6.4 and Python 2.4.6: It is highly recommended to additionally install Python 3, Why is it highly

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug

2009-12-07 Thread Philip Webb
091207 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 14:49:44 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: I know that from my home-made list of pkgs which I have installed, where they are marked with 'W' system pkgs with 'S'. Yes, I do have to keep it upto-date as I do emerges. One of the major deficiencies of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug

2009-12-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 December 2009 00:46:18 Philip Webb wrote: 091207 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 14:49:44 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: I know that from my home-made list of pkgs which I have installed, where they are marked with 'W' system pkgs with 'S'. Yes, I do have to keep it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why exactly am I supposed to install Python 3?

2009-12-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 December 2009 00:41:57 Grant Edwards wrote: Quoting from the page on Python 2.7 (released today): Python 2.7 is scheduled to be the last major version in the 2.x series before it moves into 5 years of bugfix-only mode. So there's at least 5 years of life left in the 2.x

Re: [gentoo-user] Python 2.7 support

2009-12-07 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:47:41 -0600, Dale wrote: It's keyworded, but not masked. The recommendation, for ~arch users, is that you have it installed but leave 2.6 as the default. It shows this here: [M~] dev-lang/python-3.1.1-r1 (3.1) Isn't that masked and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug

2009-12-07 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 08 December 2009 00:46:18 Philip Webb wrote: 091207 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 14:49:44 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: I know that from my home-made list of pkgs which I have installed, where they are marked with 'W' system pkgs with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug

2009-12-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:46:18 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: One of the major deficiencies of Gentoo is that it doesn't provide such a file automatically. emerge -p @system emerge -p @world root:501 ~ emerge -p @system !!! '@system' is not a valid package atom. !!! Please

[gentoo-user] [OT] Google's public DNS service

2009-12-07 Thread walt
I just found out that google is offering its DNS servers to the public for free. as usual. I know that anyone can use any DNS server that's exposed to the internet, also for free, so what's the big deal about google? Well, they say that their DNS servers are more resistant to cache poisoning

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Google's public DNS service

2009-12-07 Thread Bill Kenworthy
looks interesting ... I think many ISP's use DNS to manage/direct traffic internally so will this bypass or break parts of their network for the google DNS user? off the top of my head, the explanations I have seen give a reasonable approach to security of your footprints as you travel the