Re: [gentoo-user] How to read package changelogs?
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Spidey spide...@gmail.com wrote: That's one task that I find difficult to do in Gentoo. Should I mess with temp folders in /var/tmp/portage to find changelogs there? I'd like something easy to use as eix or equery, but since Gentoo just maintains ebuild files I guess it doesn't mess with changelogs. I hope I'm wrong. Claudio Roberto França Pereira (Spidey) @spideybr Engenharia de Computação - UFES 2006/1 emerge --changelog -p blah? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
[gentoo-user] Blank screen in X, no errors in Xorg.log
HW = Chipset: ATI Radeon HD 4250 (Chipset = 0x9715) Config is mostly taken from a working amd64 + radeon system. linux-firmware is installed. No errors or warning in the the xorg logs, but startx returns a blank screen on both the VGA and HDMI outputs. It also fails with no xorg.conf. There's no process called X or anything related to X, if i ssh in from another machine and run 'pgrep -lf X' as root. When using fglrx; proxy adam # tail Xorg.0.log [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Desc: ATI FireGL DRM kernel module [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version matches driver. [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module Build Time Information: [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Build-Kernel UTS_RELEASE:3.0.4-gentoo [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Build-Kernel MODVERSIONS:no [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Build-Kernel __SMP__:yes [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Build-Kernel PAGE_SIZE: 0x1000 [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): [uki] register handle = 0x4000 [ 458.526] (II) fglrx(0): DRI initialization successfull [ 458.526] (II) fglrx(0): FBADPhys: 0xc000 FBMappedSize: 0x0100e000 proxy adam # When using the radeon driver; proxy adam # tail /root/Xorg.0.log [ 123.799] GC: 0 objects of 72 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [ 123.799] CURSOR: 0 objects of 8 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [ 123.799] CURSOR_BITS: 0 objects of 8 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [ 123.799] DBE_WINDOW: 0 objects of 24 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [ 123.799] TOTAL: 1 objects, 120 bytes, 0 allocs [ 123.800] (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) [ 123.800] (II) APM registered successfully [ 123.800] (II) RADEON(0): RADEONScreenInit d000 0 0 [ 123.862] Output CRT1 disable success [ 123.871] Blank What's my next step? xorg.conf is; Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout Screen 0 aticonfig-Screen[0]-0 0 0 EndSection Section Files # These are not needed for fglrx, but will be for radeon ModulePath /usr/lib64/xorg/modules ModulePath /usr/lib64/opengl/xorg-x11/extensions/ EndSection Section ServerFlags Option Xinerama off #Option blank time 5 # Blank the screen after 5 minutes (Fake) Option standby time 10 # Turn off screen after 10 minutes (DPMS) Option suspend time 20 # Full suspend after 20 minutes Option off time 30 # Turn off after half an hour EndSection Section Monitor Identifier aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0 Option DPMS true Option PreferredMode 1440x900 EndSection Section Device Identifier aticonfig-Device[0]-0 Driver fglrx #Driver radeon Option backingstore true #BusID PCI:1:0:0 #BusID PCI:0@1:0:1 # dynamicclocks is for powersaving but not impl on flgrx #Option DynamicClocks on #Option RenderAccel true - not supported by flgrx #Option AccelMethod exa - not supported by flgrx #Option UseFastTLS 1 #Option EnablePageFlip true - not supported by flgrx EndSection Section Screen Identifier aticonfig-Screen[0]-0 Device aticonfig-Device[0]-0 Monitoraticonfig-Monitor[0]-0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section Extensions Option Composite Enable EndSection Section InputClass Identifier keyboard-all Driver evdev #Option XkbLayout us,cz #Option XkbModel logitech_g15 Option XkbRules xorg #Option XkbOptions grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp:switch,grp_led:scroll,compose:rwin,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp Option XkbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp #Option XkbVariant ,qwerty MatchIsKeyboard on EndSection
Re: [gentoo-user] How to read package changelogs?
On 2 October 2011 07:06, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: emerge --changelog -p blah? Oh wow. I'll be using that a lot from now on. If only I'd read the portage changelog to find out when they added this feature :P
Re: [gentoo-user] Blank screen in X, no errors in Xorg.log
Am Sonntag 02 Oktober 2011, 17:51:19 schrieb Adam Carter: HW = Chipset: ATI Radeon HD 4250 (Chipset = 0x9715) Config is mostly taken from a working amd64 + radeon system. linux-firmware is installed. No errors or warning in the the xorg logs, but startx returns a blank screen on both the VGA and HDMI outputs. It also fails with no xorg.conf. There's no process called X or anything related to X, if i ssh in from another machine and run 'pgrep -lf X' as root. When using fglrx; proxy adam # tail Xorg.0.log [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Desc: ATI FireGL DRM kernel module [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version matches driver. [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module Build Time Information: [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Build-Kernel UTS_RELEASE: 3.0.4-gentoo [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Build-Kernel MODVERSIONS: no [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Build-Kernel __SMP__:yes [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Build-Kernel PAGE_SIZE: 0x1000 [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): [uki] register handle = 0x4000 [ 458.526] (II) fglrx(0): DRI initialization successfull [ 458.526] (II) fglrx(0): FBADPhys: 0xc000 FBMappedSize: 0x0100e000 proxy adam # When using the radeon driver; proxy adam # tail /root/Xorg.0.log [ 123.799] GC: 0 objects of 72 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [ 123.799] CURSOR: 0 objects of 8 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [ 123.799] CURSOR_BITS: 0 objects of 8 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [ 123.799] DBE_WINDOW: 0 objects of 24 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [ 123.799] TOTAL: 1 objects, 120 bytes, 0 allocs [ 123.800] (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) [ 123.800] (II) APM registered successfully [ 123.800] (II) RADEON(0): RADEONScreenInit d000 0 0 [ 123.862] Output CRT1 disable success [ 123.871] Blank What's my next step? xorg.conf is; Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout Screen 0 aticonfig-Screen[0]-0 0 0 EndSection Section Files # These are not needed for fglrx, but will be for radeon ModulePath /usr/lib64/xorg/modules ModulePath /usr/lib64/opengl/xorg-x11/extensions/ EndSection Section ServerFlags Option Xinerama off #Option blank time 5 # Blank the screen after 5 minutes (Fake) Option standby time 10 # Turn off screen after 10 minutes (DPMS) Option suspend time 20 # Full suspend after 20 minutes Option off time 30 # Turn off after half an hour EndSection Section Monitor Identifier aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0 Option DPMS true Option PreferredMode 1440x900 EndSection Section Device Identifier aticonfig-Device[0]-0 Driver fglrx #Driver radeon Option backingstore true #BusID PCI:1:0:0 #BusID PCI:0@1:0:1 # dynamicclocks is for powersaving but not impl on flgrx #Option DynamicClocks on #Option RenderAccel true - not supported by flgrx #Option AccelMethod exa - not supported by flgrx #Option UseFastTLS 1 #Option EnablePageFlip true - not supported by flgrx EndSection Section Screen Identifier aticonfig-Screen[0]-0 Device aticonfig-Device[0]-0 Monitoraticonfig-Monitor[0]-0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section Extensions Option Composite Enable EndSection Section InputClass Identifier keyboard-all Driver evdev #Option XkbLayout us,cz #Option XkbModel logitech_g15 Option XkbRules xorg #Option XkbOptions grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp:switch,grp_led:scroll,compose:rwin,terminate:ctrl_ alt_bksp Option XkbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp #Option XkbVariant ,qwerty MatchIsKeyboard on EndSection post Xorg.0.log? -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] How to read package changelogs?
Am Sonntag 02 Oktober 2011, 01:13:54 schrieb Spidey: That's one task that I find difficult to do in Gentoo. Should I mess with temp folders in /var/tmp/portage to find changelogs there? I'd like something easy to use as eix or equery, but since Gentoo just maintains ebuild files I guess it doesn't mess with changelogs. I hope I'm wrong. Claudio Roberto França Pereira (Spidey) @spideybr Engenharia de Computação - UFES 2006/1 which changelogs? gentoo's changelogs (which are next to the ebuilds) or the software's changelogs (which can usually also found on their websites)? -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Blank screen in X, no errors in Xorg.log
Xorg.0.log; [ 824.120] X.Org X Server 1.10.4 Release Date: 2011-08-19 [ 824.121] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [ 824.121] Build Operating System: Linux 3.0.4-gentoo x86_64 Gentoo [ 824.121] Current Operating System: Linux proxy 3.0.4-gentoo #2 SMP Sat Oct 1 18:19:30 EST 2011 x86_64 [ 824.121] Kernel command line: root=/dev/md126 md=126,/dev/sdb2,/dev/sdc2 [ 824.121] Build Date: 01 October 2011 04:54:19AM [ 824.121] [ 824.121] Current version of pixman: 0.22.2 [ 824.121]Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. [ 824.121] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [ 824.121] (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Mon Oct 3 03:49:49 2011 [ 824.121] (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf [ 824.121] (==) Using system config directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d [ 824.122] (==) ServerLayout Layout [ 824.122] (**) |--Screen aticonfig-Screen[0]-0 (0) [ 824.122] (**) | |--Monitor aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0 [ 824.122] (**) | |--Device aticonfig-Device[0]-0 [ 824.122] (**) Option StandbyTime 10 [ 824.122] (**) Option SuspendTime 20 [ 824.122] (**) Option OffTime 30 [ 824.122] (**) Option Xinerama off [ 824.122] (==) Automatically adding devices [ 824.122] (==) Automatically enabling devices [ 824.122] (==) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/misc/, /usr/share/fonts/TTF/, /usr/share/fonts/OTF/, /usr/share/fonts/Type1/, /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ [ 824.122] (**) ModulePath set to /usr/lib64/xorg/modules,/usr/lib64/opengl/xorg-x11/extensions/ [ 824.122] (**) Extension Composite is enabled [ 824.123] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices. [ 824.123] (II) Loader magic: 0x7df160 [ 824.123] (II) Module ABI versions: [ 824.123]X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 [ 824.123]X.Org Video Driver: 10.0 [ 824.123]X.Org XInput driver : 12.2 [ 824.123]X.Org Server Extension : 5.0 [ 824.124] (--) PCI:*(0:1:5:0) 1002:9715:1458:d000 rev 0, Mem @ 0xd000/268435456, 0xfdfe/65536, 0xfde0/1048576, I/O @ 0xee00/256 [ 824.124] (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) [ 824.124] (II) LoadModule: extmod [ 824.125] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so [ 824.125] (II) Module extmod: vendor=X.Org Foundation [ 824.125]compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.0.0 [ 824.125]Module class: X.Org Server Extension [ 824.125]ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0 [ 824.125] (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER [ 824.125] (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension [ 824.125] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA [ 824.125] (II) Loading extension DPMS [ 824.125] (II) Loading extension XVideo [ 824.126] (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation [ 824.126] (II) Loading extension X-Resource [ 824.126] (II) LoadModule: dbe [ 824.126] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so [ 824.126] (II) Module dbe: vendor=X.Org Foundation [ 824.126]compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.0.0 [ 824.126]Module class: X.Org Server Extension [ 824.126]ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0 [ 824.126] (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER [ 824.126] (II) LoadModule: glx [ 824.126] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so [ 824.127] (II) Module glx: vendor=X.Org Foundation [ 824.127]compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.0.0 [ 824.127]ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0 [ 824.127] (==) AIGLX enabled [ 824.127] (II) Loading extension GLX [ 824.127] (II) LoadModule: record [ 824.127] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so [ 824.127] (II) Module record: vendor=X.Org Foundation [ 824.127]compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.13.0 [ 824.127]Module class: X.Org Server Extension [ 824.127]ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0 [ 824.127] (II) Loading extension RECORD [ 824.127] (II) LoadModule: dri [ 824.127] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so [ 824.128] (II) Module dri: vendor=X.Org Foundation [ 824.128]compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.0.0 [ 824.128]ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0 [ 824.128] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI [ 824.128] (II) LoadModule: dri2 [ 824.128] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so [ 824.128] (II) Module dri2: vendor=X.Org Foundation [ 824.128]compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.2.0 [ 824.128]ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0 [ 824.128] (II) Loading extension DRI2 [ 824.128] (II)
[gentoo-user] Re: How to read package changelogs?
On 10/02/2011 07:13 AM, Spidey wrote: That's one task that I find difficult to do in Gentoo. Should I mess with temp folders in /var/tmp/portage to find changelogs there? I'd like something easy to use as eix or equery, but since Gentoo just maintains ebuild files I guess it doesn't mess with changelogs. I hope I'm wrong. You should be able to find them in /usr/share/doc/.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 00:17, Spideyspide...@gmail.com wrote: The question is in the subject: how to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use? Someone somewhere in this list suggested using some tool, I've tried that but it was extremely verbose, and I'd had to toggle manually flags to see if it affected or not. If some tool to pinpoint redundant flags is not already done, one to echo my flags separated by it's source (profile, make.conf, package.use, ebuild) would help me a lot. Look into app-portage/ufed. Hey, cl. That is some cool stuff. Maybe I can use this to clean this up: USE=3dnow 3dnowext X a52 aac acpi alsa amd64 aml apng automount avahi bash-completion berkdb bzip2 cairo cdda cddb cdr chroot cleartype cli clucene consolekit corefonts cracklib cups curl cxx dbus declarative dri dvd dvdr embedded emboss encode escreen esd exif fam ffmpeg firefox flac fortran gdbm gdu gif gimp gkrellm gnutls gphoto2 gpm gtk hbci hddtemp iconv ipv6 java javascript jbig jpeg jpeg2k justify kde kipi lcms libnotify libwww logrotate loop-aes mad mdnsresponder-compat melt mmx mng modules mp3 mp4 mpeg mplayer mudflap multilib mysql ncurses nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin offensive ofx ogg opengl openmp pam pango parport pcre pdf perl phonon plasma png policykit ppds ppp pppd python qt3 qt3support qt4 readline sasl sdl seamonkey semantic-desktop session sift smp spell sse sse2 ssl startup-notification svg sysfs syslog tcl tcpd threads tiff tk truetype type1 udev unicode usb vcd vorbis webkit wma wmf x264 xcb xcomposite xinerama xml xorg xscreensaver xv xvid yahoo zeroconf zlib How's that for a USE line? What does it look like if there is a USE flag that no longer exists? I see ones I am not using and are using but can't figure out what it looks like if the USE flag is in make.conf but no longer exists in the tree. Ahhh, for others to know. If there is a flag in make.conf that isn't is use anymore, invalid I guess, it shows up as UNKNOWN in the description. Just in case someone else is using ufed inside a Konsole, the page up/page down buttons work too. There is a LOT of flags in the tree. I knew there was a lot but I didn't know there was this many. O_O Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] How to read package changelogs?
On Sun, 2 Oct 2011 08:06:05 +0100, James Broadhead wrote: On 2 October 2011 07:06, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: emerge --changelog -p blah? Oh wow. I'll be using that a lot from now on. If only I'd read the portage changelog to find out when they added this feature :P You'd have to read a long way back, it's been there for many years. -- Neil Bothwick Theory and practice are the same in theory, but different in practice signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
On 10/02/2011 11:44 AM, Dale wrote: Look into app-portage/ufed. Hey, cl. That is some cool stuff. Maybe I can use this to clean this up: USE=3dnow 3dnowext X a52 aac acpi alsa amd64 aml apng automount avahi [snip monstrosity] It seems you confused make.conf with package.use :-P
Re: [gentoo-user] How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
On Sun, 2 Oct 2011 01:17:01 -0300, Spidey wrote: The question is in the subject: how to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use? eix-test-obsolete finds this and more besides, it's great for keeping /etc/portage cruft-free. -- Neil Bothwick Very funny Scotty.. now beam down my pants! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/02/2011 11:44 AM, Dale wrote: Look into app-portage/ufed. Hey, cl. That is some cool stuff. Maybe I can use this to clean this up: USE=3dnow 3dnowext X a52 aac acpi alsa amd64 aml apng automount avahi [snip monstrosity] It seems you confused make.conf with package.use :-P I rarely use package.use. There is a couple lines in there but not many. I usually enable a USE flag globally in make.conf and be done with it. That's just me tho. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Blank screen in X, no errors in Xorg.log
Am Sonntag 02 Oktober 2011, 17:51:19 schrieb Adam Carter: HW = Chipset: ATI Radeon HD 4250 (Chipset = 0x9715) Config is mostly taken from a working amd64 + radeon system. linux-firmware is installed. No errors or warning in the the xorg logs, but startx returns a blank screen on both the VGA and HDMI outputs. It also fails with no xorg.conf. There's no process called X or anything related to X, if i ssh in from another machine and run 'pgrep -lf X' as root. When using fglrx; proxy adam # tail Xorg.0.log [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Desc: ATI FireGL DRM kernel module [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version matches driver. [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module Build Time Information: [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Build-Kernel UTS_RELEASE: 3.0.4-gentoo [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Build-Kernel MODVERSIONS: no [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Build-Kernel __SMP__:yes [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): Build-Kernel PAGE_SIZE: 0x1000 [ 458.503] (II) fglrx(0): [uki] register handle = 0x4000 [ 458.526] (II) fglrx(0): DRI initialization successfull [ 458.526] (II) fglrx(0): FBADPhys: 0xc000 FBMappedSize: 0x0100e000 proxy adam # When using the radeon driver; proxy adam # tail /root/Xorg.0.log [ 123.799] GC: 0 objects of 72 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [ 123.799] CURSOR: 0 objects of 8 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [ 123.799] CURSOR_BITS: 0 objects of 8 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [ 123.799] DBE_WINDOW: 0 objects of 24 bytes = 0 total bytes 0 private allocs [ 123.799] TOTAL: 1 objects, 120 bytes, 0 allocs [ 123.800] (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) [ 123.800] (II) APM registered successfully [ 123.800] (II) RADEON(0): RADEONScreenInit d000 0 0 [ 123.862] Output CRT1 disable success [ 123.871] Blank What's my next step? xorg.conf is; Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout Screen 0 aticonfig-Screen[0]-0 0 0 EndSection Section Files # These are not needed for fglrx, but will be for radeon ModulePath /usr/lib64/xorg/modules ModulePath /usr/lib64/opengl/xorg-x11/extensions/ EndSection Section ServerFlags Option Xinerama off #Option blank time 5 # Blank the screen after 5 minutes (Fake) Option standby time 10 # Turn off screen after 10 minutes (DPMS) Option suspend time 20 # Full suspend after 20 minutes Option off time 30 # Turn off after half an hour EndSection Section Monitor Identifier aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0 Option DPMS true Option PreferredMode 1440x900 EndSection Section Device Identifier aticonfig-Device[0]-0 Driver fglrx #Driver radeon Option backingstore true #BusID PCI:1:0:0 #BusID PCI:0@1:0:1 # dynamicclocks is for powersaving but not impl on flgrx #Option DynamicClocks on #Option RenderAccel true - not supported by flgrx #Option AccelMethod exa - not supported by flgrx #Option UseFastTLS 1 #Option EnablePageFlip true - not supported by flgrx EndSection Section Screen Identifier aticonfig-Screen[0]-0 Device aticonfig-Device[0]-0 Monitoraticonfig-Monitor[0]-0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section Extensions Option Composite Enable EndSection Section InputClass Identifier keyboard-all Driver evdev #Option XkbLayout us,cz #Option XkbModel logitech_g15 Option XkbRules xorg #Option XkbOptions grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp:switch,grp_led:scroll,compose:rwin,terminate:ctrl_ alt_bksp Option XkbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp #Option XkbVariant ,qwerty MatchIsKeyboard on EndSection post Xorg.0.log? -- #163933
[gentoo-user] Re: How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
On 10/02/2011 12:14 PM, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/02/2011 11:44 AM, Dale wrote: Look into app-portage/ufed. Hey, cl. That is some cool stuff. Maybe I can use this to clean this up: USE=3dnow 3dnowext X a52 aac acpi alsa amd64 aml apng automount avahi [snip monstrosity] It seems you confused make.conf with package.use :-P I rarely use package.use. There is a couple lines in there but not many. I usually enable a USE flag globally in make.conf and be done with it. Which results in the above chaos ;-P The obvious problem is that sometimes you enable a USE flag for some package, but that USE flag has an effect on other packages too if you put it in make.conf, even though you might not want that. One reason you might not want that are bloated dependencies. For example, you install package foo and you want the bar USE flag for it. If you put it in make.conf, other packages might also use that flag and pull-in its deps. Now if you unmerge foo, an emerge --depclean will not uninstall those deps. As time goes on, this results in a system full of deps you never really wanted and can't get rid of.
[gentoo-user] MediaTomb - sorting images by exif rating
Hello there! I am using Mediatomb with my telly which is so far the best DLNA server I've tried. I use the telly to present images from my DSLR camera and I'd like to be able to list only images that have rating over 4. By rating, I mean EXIF tag 0x4746 (Exif.Image.Rating). Does anybody know how to force MediaTomb to create such virtual folders? Thanks for your responses! Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/02/2011 12:14 PM, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/02/2011 11:44 AM, Dale wrote: Look into app-portage/ufed. Hey, cl. That is some cool stuff. Maybe I can use this to clean this up: USE=3dnow 3dnowext X a52 aac acpi alsa amd64 aml apng automount avahi [snip monstrosity] It seems you confused make.conf with package.use :-P I rarely use package.use. There is a couple lines in there but not many. I usually enable a USE flag globally in make.conf and be done with it. Which results in the above chaos ;-P The obvious problem is that sometimes you enable a USE flag for some package, but that USE flag has an effect on other packages too if you put it in make.conf, even though you might not want that. One reason you might not want that are bloated dependencies. For example, you install package foo and you want the bar USE flag for it. If you put it in make.conf, other packages might also use that flag and pull-in its deps. Now if you unmerge foo, an emerge --depclean will not uninstall those deps. As time goes on, this results in a system full of deps you never really wanted and can't get rid of. In that case, I then use package.use. Like this in package.use: x11-base/xorg-server -hal net-misc/ntp caps -ipv6 media-gfx/gtkam debug sys-power/nut -usb I use package.use for those exceptions where I don't want something. Otherwise, I put it in make.conf so that I only have one file to deal with for the most part. I am OCD about some things, like brakes on my car, but I'm not that OCD about this one. I do wish emerge would give notice when a USE flag is invalid tho. It's nice that it just ignores it and goes on but a little message that one has fell off the list would be nice. To each his own I guess. This is how I been managing my USE flags since about 2003 and it works rather well. At least for me. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 05:13:49 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/02/2011 12:14 PM, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/02/2011 11:44 AM, Dale wrote: Look into app-portage/ufed. Hey, cl. That is some cool stuff. Maybe I can use this to clean this up: USE=3dnow 3dnowext X a52 aac acpi alsa amd64 aml apng automount avahi [snip monstrosity] It seems you confused make.conf with package.use :-P I rarely use package.use. There is a couple lines in there but not many. I usually enable a USE flag globally in make.conf and be done with it. Which results in the above chaos ;-P The obvious problem is that sometimes you enable a USE flag for some package, but that USE flag has an effect on other packages too if you put it in make.conf, even though you might not want that. One reason you might not want that are bloated dependencies. For example, you install package foo and you want the bar USE flag for it. If you put it in make.conf, other packages might also use that flag and pull-in its deps. Now if you unmerge foo, an emerge --depclean will not uninstall those deps. As time goes on, this results in a system full of deps you never really wanted and can't get rid of. In that case, I then use package.use. Like this in package.use: x11-base/xorg-server -hal net-misc/ntp caps -ipv6 media-gfx/gtkam debug sys-power/nut -usb I use package.use for those exceptions where I don't want something. Otherwise, I put it in make.conf so that I only have one file to deal with for the most part. I am OCD about some things, like brakes on my car, but I'm not that OCD about this one. I do wish emerge would give notice when a USE flag is invalid tho. It's nice that it just ignores it and goes on but a little message that one has fell off the list would be nice. It does :-) emerge -p colorizes invalid USE flags and marks them in some way with an additional character. I forget who exactly it marks them (it's in the man page and I'm lazy today) but it does stick out like a sore thimb. To each his own I guess. This is how I been managing my USE flags since about 2003 and it works rather well. At least for me. ;-) Dale :-) :-) -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 05:13:49 -0500 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: In that case, I then use package.use. Like this in package.use: x11-base/xorg-server -hal net-misc/ntp caps -ipv6 media-gfx/gtkam debug sys-power/nut -usb I use package.use for those exceptions where I don't want something. Otherwise, I put it in make.conf so that I only have one file to deal with for the most part. I am OCD about some things, like brakes on my car, but I'm not that OCD about this one. I do wish emerge would give notice when a USE flag is invalid tho. It's nice that it just ignores it and goes on but a little message that one has fell off the list would be nice. It does :-) emerge -p colorizes invalid USE flags and marks them in some way with an additional character. I forget who exactly it marks them (it's in the man page and I'm lazy today) but it does stick out like a sore thimb. Hmmm, I never noticed that before. I think there was only two that was invalid tho. So, I guess there hasn't been as many removed as I thought, at least that I have used anyway. I did enable a couple that I didn't know about tho. lol My USE line ended up not being any smaller. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:36:54 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 05:13:49 -0500 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: In that case, I then use package.use. Like this in package.use: x11-base/xorg-server -hal net-misc/ntp caps -ipv6 media-gfx/gtkam debug sys-power/nut -usb I use package.use for those exceptions where I don't want something. Otherwise, I put it in make.conf so that I only have one file to deal with for the most part. I am OCD about some things, like brakes on my car, but I'm not that OCD about this one. I do wish emerge would give notice when a USE flag is invalid tho. It's nice that it just ignores it and goes on but a little message that one has fell off the list would be nice. It does :-) emerge -p colorizes invalid USE flags and marks them in some way with an additional character. I forget who exactly it marks them (it's in the man page and I'm lazy today) but it does stick out like a sore thimb. Hmmm, I never noticed that before. I think there was only two that was invalid tho. So, I guess there hasn't been as many removed as I thought, at least that I have used anyway. I did enable a couple that I didn't know about tho. lol My USE line ended up not being any smaller. lol For example, you have USE=perl python in make.conf which pulls in a truly gigantic list of extra stuff that you will have little need of. Those two flags are coming out of profiles any day now so you will miss the long list of rebuilds that will cause. Try putting those two flags in package.use only for those packages that truly need it and when the change hits the tree sit back and watch just how much unneccessary cruft you have :-) You often mention the attraction of Gentoo is you get only what you want. But, consider this; if you put flags routinely in make.conf you lose most of that benefit. You end up with the equivalent of Mandrake where you complied it yourself, not the binary distro. USE=every possible flag enabled emerge something and yum install something a nd pretty much equivalent in terms of end result. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:36:54 -0500 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 05:13:49 -0500 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: In that case, I then use package.use. Like this in package.use: x11-base/xorg-server -hal net-misc/ntp caps -ipv6 media-gfx/gtkam debug sys-power/nut -usb I use package.use for those exceptions where I don't want something. Otherwise, I put it in make.conf so that I only have one file to deal with for the most part. I am OCD about some things, like brakes on my car, but I'm not that OCD about this one. I do wish emerge would give notice when a USE flag is invalid tho. It's nice that it just ignores it and goes on but a little message that one has fell off the list would be nice. It does :-) emerge -p colorizes invalid USE flags and marks them in some way with an additional character. I forget who exactly it marks them (it's in the man page and I'm lazy today) but it does stick out like a sore thimb. Hmmm, I never noticed that before. I think there was only two that was invalid tho. So, I guess there hasn't been as many removed as I thought, at least that I have used anyway. I did enable a couple that I didn't know about tho. lol My USE line ended up not being any smaller. lol For example, you have USE=perl python in make.conf which pulls in a truly gigantic list of extra stuff that you will have little need of. Those two flags are coming out of profiles any day now so you will miss the long list of rebuilds that will cause. Try putting those two flags in package.use only for those packages that truly need it and when the change hits the tree sit back and watch just how much unneccessary cruft you have :-) You often mention the attraction of Gentoo is you get only what you want. But, consider this; if you put flags routinely in make.conf you lose most of that benefit. You end up with the equivalent of Mandrake where you complied it yourself, not the binary distro. USE=every possible flag enabled emerge something and yum install something a nd pretty much equivalent in terms of end result. What I like about Gentoo is not being in dependency hell. Also, Mandrake has a init thing that drove me bonkers on most days. I do like the control that Gentoo gives but I'm not that much of a control freak. I wanted a distro that had a better package manager than Mandrake and no init thingy. Gentoo fit that requirement even back in 2003. So, yea you are right in a way but I'm just not into controlling every single aspect of this. That said, I'm going to try USE=-perl -python emerge -Nav world and see what pukes on my keyboard. Also, I think a lot of things required python and/or perl back when I added the flag. That just seems to have changed without me knowing about it. Just like the invalid USE flags that I got rid of. Things change. I try to keep up but I do have other things to deal with at times. My garden and this little 90 lb chick I met. I'm trying to fatten her up a bit. lol This is all that puked. root@fireball / # USE=-perl -python emerge -Nav world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R] dev-util/boost-build-1.46.1 USE=-examples -python* 41,017 kB [ebuild R] sys-apps/util-linux-2.19.1 USE=cramfs loop-aes ncurses nls unicode -crypt -old-linux -perl* (-selinux) -slang (-uclibc) 4,341 kB [ebuild R] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.24.1 USE=-alisp -debug -doc -python* -static-libs ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol 814 kB [ebuild R] media-libs/lcms-1.19 USE=jpeg tiff zlib -python* -static-libs 907 kB [ebuild R] dev-libs/libgamin-0.1.10-r2 USE=-debug -python* -static-libs 834 kB [ebuild R] sys-apps/file-5.07-r3 USE=zlib -python* -static-libs 584 kB [ebuild R] sys-libs/cracklib-2.8.16 USE=nls -python* 604 kB [ebuild R] dev-lang/yasm-1.1.0-r1 USE=nls -python* 1,377 kB [ebuild R] dev-libs/boost-1.46.1-r1 USE=eselect -debug -doc -icu -mpi -python* -static-libs -test -tools 0 kB [ebuild R ~] kde-base/kdegames-meta-4.7.1 USE=opengl (-aqua) -python* 0 kB [ebuild R] dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.26-r1 USE=-crypt -debug -python* 3,322 kB [ebuild R] net-libs/libproxy-0.4.6-r3 USE=kde -gnome -mono -networkmanager -perl* -python* -test 81 kB [ebuild R ~] kde-base/marble-4.7.1 USE=handbook kde plasma (-aqua) -debug -designer-plugin -gps (-kdeenablefinal) -python* -test 20,575 kB [ebuild R ~] kde-base/superkaramba-4.7.1 USE=(-aqua) -debug (-kdeenablefinal) -python* 3,711 kB [ebuild R #] net-print/cups-1.5.0-r2 USE=X dbus gnutls java jpeg pam png ssl threads tiff -acl -debug -kerberos -ldap -perl* -php -python* -samba -slp -static-libs -usb -xinetd LINGUAS=-da -de -es -eu -fi -fr -id -it -ja -ko
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:36:54 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 05:13:49 -0500 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: You often mention the attraction of Gentoo is you get only what you want. But, consider this; if you put flags routinely in make.conf you lose most of that benefit. You end up with the equivalent of Mandrake where you complied it yourself, not the binary distro. USE=every possible flag enabled emerge something and yum install something and pretty much equivalent in terms of end result. I'm actually very much in Dale's usage pattern here. If there's a feature I want, and it's a globally-valid USE flag (such as, say, ipv6), I put it in make.conf. If there's a feature I want, and it's package-specific, it goes in package.use. If there's a feature I want, it's a globally-valid USE flag, but I *don't* want it in a particular package (say, X in vim), the enabler goes in make.conf, the disabler goes in packages.use; for 90% of packages, I want that support. So that's not USE=every possible flag enable, that's USE=all the global flags I want enabled. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 08:50:41 -0500, Dale wrote: That said, I'm going to try USE=-perl -python emerge -Nav world and see what pukes on my keyboard. Also, I think a lot of things required python and/or perl back when I added the flag. If they require Perl or Python, you won't have the perl or python USE flag. That's for optional choices, which usually means building language bindings with these flags. -- Neil Bothwick Taglines are like cars - You get a good one, then someone nicks it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] MediaTomb - sorting images by exif rating
Thanks for your answer, Michael. I have already read the web page you posted, but my problem is that libextractor extracts various EXIF metadata from jpeg files EXCEPT for exif rating. So I wonder whether there is any workaround/any way to do this in some different way? Or maybe some way to teach libextractor to extract those data? I tried to find some configuration for libextractor/exiv2 but unforutnately without any success. Peter 2011/10/2 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 5:50 AM, czernitko czerni...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there! I am using Mediatomb with my telly which is so far the best DLNA server I've tried. I use the telly to present images from my DSLR camera and I'd like to be able to list only images that have rating over 4. By rating, I mean EXIF tag 0x4746 (Exif.Image.Rating). Does anybody know how to force MediaTomb to create such virtual folders? MediaTomb builds the virtual folder set via JavaScript. Take a peek under /usr/share/mediatomb/js , and at http://mediatomb.cc/pages/scripting -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] MediaTomb - sorting images by exif rating
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:58 AM, czernitko czerni...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your answer, Michael. I have already read the web page you posted, but my problem is that libextractor extracts various EXIF metadata from jpeg files EXCEPT for exif rating. So I wonder whether there is any workaround/any way to do this in some different way? Or maybe some way to teach libextractor to extract those data? I tried to find some configuration for libextractor/exiv2 but unforutnately without any success. I don't have a good answer for that. You might try the ask-and-lurk pattern in #mediatomb on Freenode. Note that you're running Gentoo, and could patch the source (in case you pique the curiosity of an interested mt dev). -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
On 2011-10-02 10:44, Dale wrote: How's that for a USE line? What does it look like if there is a USE Hm... this doesn't really answer the original question but I like to put my USE flags (in make.conf) in a list (alphabetized [using sort]) like this: USE= 3dnow 3dnowext a52 aac -accessibility acl acpi ... To me, that's easier to maintain and get an overview of... Best regards Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
On Sun, 2 Oct 2011 10:53:46 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:36:54 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 05:13:49 -0500 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: You often mention the attraction of Gentoo is you get only what you want. But, consider this; if you put flags routinely in make.conf you lose most of that benefit. You end up with the equivalent of Mandrake where you complied it yourself, not the binary distro. USE=every possible flag enabled emerge something and yum install something and pretty much equivalent in terms of end result. I'm actually very much in Dale's usage pattern here. If there's a feature I want, and it's a globally-valid USE flag (such as, say, ipv6), I put it in make.conf. If there's a feature I want, and it's package-specific, it goes in package.use. If there's a feature I want, it's a globally-valid USE flag, but I *don't* want it in a particular package (say, X in vim), the enabler goes in make.conf, the disabler goes in packages.use; for 90% of packages, I want that support. So that's not USE=every possible flag enable, that's USE=all the global flags I want enabled. As with all things in life, USE flags require intelligence, common sense and familiarity to use to best advantage. Not all global USE flags are equal or used in the same way! USE=ipv6 is mostly global and single-meaning. ipv6 support means just that - ipv6 support. For a daemon, that would be listen on an ipv6 interface and talk it back. For config tools, it's set up interfaces and routes ipv6 style. It's hard to come up with a meaning for the flag that's outside that narrow range; it's equally hard to come up with a reason to use in package.use. Maybe disable it for a package that supports ipv6 but is known to be broken in it's support. USE=perl python is a very different kettle of fish. While also global (i.e. used in a similar way by more than x number of ebuilds), the meaning in use can differ wildly. It can mean to build support for extra tools written in perl|python, or build language bindings, or use language bindings and possibly many things. These flags can benefit from being used in package.use - whereas you probably want ipv6 support everywhere if used, perl|python isn't used the same way. Your post indicates you already know this :-) I mentioned it to Dale to illuminate that just because a flag is *defined* globally doesn't mean you have to *use* it globally. And the reverse is also true - overlays often have flags used in many ebuilds, always with the same meaning (e17 is like this), but are not global in use.desc. My own make.conf has many of these flags. Sometimes I wish Gentoo would express these distinctions. Then I think about what it would take to do that, and shelf the idea :-) -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
pk wrote: On 2011-10-02 10:44, Dale wrote: How's that for a USE line? What does it look like if there is a USE Hm... this doesn't really answer the original question but I like to put my USE flags (in make.conf) in a list (alphabetized [using sort]) like this: USE= 3dnow 3dnowext a52 aac -accessibility acl acpi ... To me, that's easier to maintain and get an overview of... Best regards Peter K Well, I used esue or something and my make.conf USE line now looks like this: USE=3dnow 3dnowext X a52 acpi alsa aml apng automount avahi \ bash-completion bzip2 cddb cdr chroot cleartype clucene corefonts cups \ curl dbus declarative dri dvd dvdr embedded escreen esd exif \ ffmpeg fortran gif gimp gkrellm gnutls gphoto2 gtk hbci hddtemp \ ipv6 java javascript jbig jpeg2k justify kde libwww \ logrotate loop-aes mdnsresponder-compat melt mmx mmxext mng mp3 \ mplayer mysql nls nsplugin nvidia offensive ofx opengl parport pdf \ policykit ppds ppp qt3support qt4 sasl seamonkey \ semantic-desktop sift smp sse sse2 sse4a syslog tcl threads tiff tk \ truetype type1 udev usb vcd webkit wma wmf yahoo zeroconf -acl \ -bluetooth -branding -crypt -doc -dts -eds -fftw -gcj -gnome \ -jabber -jingle -ldap -musepack -openldap -oss -otr -sqlite \ -sqlite3 -theora -v41 -xulrunner So, I guess you put the \ on the end and indent the next line and it sees it as one line. I might also add that mine was in alphabetical order BEFORE I used euse or whatever that was that did the chicken scratch up there. Want to try it? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] X hang / occasionally after using LVM
Am Sonntag 02 Oktober 2011, 22:34:25 schrieb J.Marcos Sitorus: Hi Volker, I just update VirtualBox from 4.0.8 to 4.1.2 today, and when emerge finished I read the message that I need to manually put virtualbox modules to /etc/conf.d/modules. The module I said that I set to autoload on boot was the kernel module (kvm-amd and several other modules). That mean that I never put virtualbox modules to autoload on boot. And today I get another crash when I copy somefiles to my backup partition on LVM (virtualbox not running, although now I set the virtualbox modules to autoload on boot). but you had them loaded: Modules linked in: btrfs libcrc32c vboxnetflt vboxnetadp vboxdrv snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_seq_device nls_cp437 vfat fat fuse sr_mod cdrom virtio_pci virtio_net virtio_ring virtio vhost_net tun kvm_amd kvm bridge stp llc usb_storage usbhid snd_hda_codec_realtek sg snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec snd_pcm thermal snd_timer processor rtc firewire_ohci snd thermal_sys r8169 ohci_hcd firewire_core mii ehci_hcd k10temp i2c_piix4 snd_page_alloc crc_itu_t You are also using btrfs AND reiser4. Hint: only use one unstable fs at a time. Get 2.6.38. Patch it with reiser4. Retry. If your box still crashes, report it on reiserfs-devel mailing list. If not, well, everything past 2.6.38 is pretty much broken (and known as broken). Your X hangups are caused by that first crash. Btw, invalid opcode here, null pointers there and a biostar mainboard - which itself is worrisome. Make sure that you have the latest bios installed. This whole thing smells really fishy. Hardwarish... I have attached the dmesg after the crash. I notice this messages: [ cut here ] kernel BUG at fs/reiser4/block_alloc.c:151! invalid opcode: [#1] last sysfs file: /sys/devices/virtual/hwmon/hwmon2/temp1_input CPU 0 Does it mean something wrong with my CPU? I have check the CPU temperature from BIOS and it's normal, only 52 Celcius. no, you can ignore that line. It just tells you the last accessed sysfs file. Which is pretty much not an issue. What is the cause of this crash? maybe your bios is missing the latest microcode update maybe your hardware has gone bad maybe it is a bad interaction between the in-kernel amd graphics drivers and reiser4 maybe it is a bad interaction between virtualbox and the rest. maybe it is caused by the fact that you are still using a non-vanilla, plain 2.6.38 -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
On 2011-10-02 19:51, Dale wrote: So, I guess you put the \ on the end and indent the next line and it sees it as one line. This is copy-paste (well, it's not all of it but I think you get the idea) directly from my make.conf: USE= 3dnow 3dnowext a52 aac -accessibility acl acpi ... Portage interprets everything between the as 'one' line; no need for \. Want to try it? Thanks, I'll skip it for now... :-) Best regards Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] How to read package changelogs?
I guess emerge --changelog will print ebuild changelogs, right? I'll try /usr/share/doc, and if it's not enough, go for the package website and find it there. Thank you for the suggestions. Claudio Roberto França Pereira (a.k.a. Spidey) hardMOB - HTForum - @spideybr Engenharia de Computação - UFES 2006/1
Re: [gentoo-user] Blank screen in X, no errors in Xorg.log
Try with this simplified xorg.conf: Section Device Identifier aticonfig-Device[0]-0 Driver fglrx #Driver radeon EndSection You can toggle video drivers also and tell what happened. By the way, you realise you also need to setup correct kernel modules and disable conflicting ones when changing from fglrx to radeon, right? Claudio Roberto França Pereira (a.k.a. Spidey) hardMOB - HTForum - @spideybr Engenharia de Computação - UFES 2006/1
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Development framework with access restriction?
On 10/01/11 19:46, Grant wrote: I think separate repositories would only be necessary when using distributed version control (git) as opposed to centralized (subversion). I think subversion's path-based authorization should eliminate the need for separate repositories? Separate repos aren't strictly necessary, but it's much harder to verify your path permissions than it is to verify that your repositories are separate. The first involves config files and cascading information; the second involves being able to count to two =)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 2 Oct 2011 10:53:46 -0400 Michael Molmike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:36:54 -0500 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 05:13:49 -0500 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.comwrote: You often mention the attraction of Gentoo is you get only what you want. But, consider this; if you put flags routinely in make.conf you lose most of that benefit. You end up with the equivalent of Mandrake where you complied it yourself, not the binary distro. USE=every possible flag enabled emerge something and yum install something and pretty much equivalent in terms of end result. I'm actually very much in Dale's usage pattern here. If there's a feature I want, and it's a globally-valid USE flag (such as, say, ipv6), I put it in make.conf. If there's a feature I want, and it's package-specific, it goes in package.use. If there's a feature I want, it's a globally-valid USE flag, but I *don't* want it in a particular package (say, X in vim), the enabler goes in make.conf, the disabler goes in packages.use; for 90% of packages, I want that support. So that's not USE=every possible flag enable, that's USE=all the global flags I want enabled. As with all things in life, USE flags require intelligence, common sense and familiarity to use to best advantage. Not all global USE flags are equal or used in the same way! USE=ipv6 is mostly global and single-meaning. ipv6 support means just that - ipv6 support. For a daemon, that would be listen on an ipv6 interface and talk it back. For config tools, it's set up interfaces and routes ipv6 style. It's hard to come up with a meaning for the flag that's outside that narrow range; it's equally hard to come up with a reason to use in package.use. Maybe disable it for a package that supports ipv6 but is known to be broken in it's support. USE=perl python is a very different kettle of fish. While also global (i.e. used in a similar way by more than x number of ebuilds), the meaning in use can differ wildly. It can mean to build support for extra tools written in perl|python, or build language bindings, or use language bindings and possibly many things. These flags can benefit from being used in package.use - whereas you probably want ipv6 support everywhere if used, perl|python isn't used the same way. Your post indicates you already know this :-) I mentioned it to Dale to illuminate that just because a flag is *defined* globally doesn't mean you have to *use* it globally. And the reverse is also true - overlays often have flags used in many ebuilds, always with the same meaning (e17 is like this), but are not global in use.desc. My own make.conf has many of these flags. Sometimes I wish Gentoo would express these distinctions. Then I think about what it would take to do that, and shelf the idea :-) -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com I saw your point. That's why I said I do make exceptions. For me, I do whatever is easier to keep up with. I actually went back and removed perl and python from make.conf so that it would basically go by the ebuild I guess. When I ran emerge -uvaDN world, it wanted to rebuild actually nothing. I guess I could do -perl and -python to force it to disable but that may cause some other issue that I'm not wanting to deal with. So, I ended up with perl and python removed from make.conf. When the changes you were talking about come along, I'll know it and can see what I need to do to get what I need. One thing I don't like about having all the separate file in package.* is trying to keep up with them. I have several files that are there that don't even have anything in them because either portages unmask feature or autounmask created them. I sort of wonder if it wouldn't be easier for me to go back to a single file. Then I can open it with kwrite and if the file has a lot in it, just use the find tool. I know, I'm sure there is some command that can do that but that's another story. Of course I also have several files that do have something in them. Thing is, if I suspect something is in a file and want to look, I have to open each file, look to see if it's there and if not, repeat with the next one until I find it. Sometimes that is like a needle in a haystack. One step forward, two steps back. :/ Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 14:26:27 -0500, Dale wrote: One thing I don't like about having all the separate file in package.* is trying to keep up with them. I have several files that are there that don't even have anything in them because either portages unmask feature or autounmask created them. I sort of wonder if it wouldn't be easier for me to go back to a single file. Then I can open it with kwrite and if the file has a lot in it, just use the find tool. I know, I'm sure there is some command that can do that but that's another story. Of course I also have several files that do have something in them. Thing is, if I suspect something is in a file and want to look, I have to open each file, look to see if it's there and if not, repeat with the next one until I find it. Sometimes that is like a needle in a haystack. Either give the files sensible names or use grep :) I name the file after the package that requires its settings, so if foo requires a USE flag on libbar, I put that in foo. That way, if I unmerge foo, I can delete the file and not leave cruft. -- Neil Bothwick If it ain't broke, break it and charge for repair. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 14:26:27 -0500, Dale wrote: One thing I don't like about having all the separate file in package.* is trying to keep up with them. I have several files that are there that don't even have anything in them because either portages unmask feature or autounmask created them. I sort of wonder if it wouldn't be easier for me to go back to a single file. Then I can open it with kwrite and if the file has a lot in it, just use the find tool. I know, I'm sure there is some command that can do that but that's another story. Of course I also have several files that do have something in them. Thing is, if I suspect something is in a file and want to look, I have to open each file, look to see if it's there and if not, repeat with the next one until I find it. Sometimes that is like a needle in a haystack. Either give the files sensible names or use grep :) I name the file after the package that requires its settings, so if foo requires a USE flag on libbar, I put that in foo. That way, if I unmerge foo, I can delete the file and not leave cruft. I generally use autounmask or portages unmask feature and it gives them names. Thing is, just because is it named something doesn't mean that is what is in it. I had a KDE unmask file that had things that were not KDE but was needed by KDE. It has all sorts of weird things in it. Maybe I need to study the find command or something. lol Then again, I'm confused enough already for today. :/ Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to easily find out what USE flags are redundant in make.conf and package.use?
On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 14:51:56 -0500, Dale wrote: I generally use autounmask or portages unmask feature and it gives them names. Thing is, just because is it named something doesn't mean that is what is in it. I had a KDE unmask file that had things that were not KDE but was needed by KDE. It has all sorts of weird things in it. That makes sense. The USE flags are there because of KDE and if you ever go over to the other side you can get rid of them. Maybe I need to study the find command or something. lol Then again, I'm confused enough already for today. :/ You need grep, not find, if it's the content of the files that matters. -- Neil Bothwick A computer is like an Old Testament god, with a lot of rules and no mercy. \xA0-- Joseph Campbell signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] gv - default printer
Does anybody know how to setup default printer for gv Is it possible? -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Development framework with access restriction?
On Sunday 02 Oct 2011 00:27:23 Grant wrote: I'm not sure if you are overcomplicating this by trying to use Unix permission. Have you instead considered webdav? You can restrict this to particular (apache) users/groups, directories, files. It also uses lockfiles so with two users editing a file simultaneously will cause a warning when you try to save it. How does webdav relate to something like subversion? Do they compliment each other or are they substitutes? - Grant WebDAV has no version control. It is just an extension to HTTP for distributed authoring. It supports locking files and methods which make it more filesystem-like. AFAIK SVN uses WebDAV for its HTTP transfer protocol. Got it. It sounds like I could use WebDAV in conjunction with subversion or git. I'll look into that. The reason I mentioned webdav(s) earlier was because you can have granular control of what each user can access. You need specify only what directory/file you want them to be able to access and they shouldn't have access to anything else. Also, you don't need to give them shell access - which I find (psychologically) more reassuring. ;-) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] gv - default printer
I *think* gv just calls lpr, so the question then is which is your default printer. Regards. El 02/10/2011 15:07, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com escribió: Does anybody know how to setup default printer for gv Is it possible? -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] Blank screen in X, no errors in Xorg.log
By the way, you realise you also need to setup correct kernel modules and disable conflicting ones when changing from fglrx to radeon, right? Really - i thought changing the X driver was all that was required. Is that do with with KMS? Anyway, i think i'll focus on just using fglrx as its what i use successfully on my laptop.
[gentoo-user] BASH Completion - Mixing directories and executables
Hi all, I was wondering if someone had a good suggestion to fix the following: $ woTAB $ wordTABTAB $ word wordforms wordlist2hunspell $workTAB $workspaces/ I'm trying to reach the workspaces directory but BASH completion seems to prefer executables. It seems to only list directories if no executables are found. Is it possible to combine them or something like that? Cheers, Hilco
Re: [gentoo-user] BASH Completion - Mixing directories and executables
On Monday, October 3, 2011, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if someone had a good suggestion to fix the following: $ woTAB $ wordTABTAB $ word wordforms wordlist2hunspell $workTAB $workspaces/ I'm trying to reach the workspaces directory but BASH completion seems to prefer executables. It seems to only list directories if no executables are found. Is it possible to combine them or something like that? Cheers, Hilco if you're disable bash completion situation will be the same. That's how it works. If you want to reach workspaces you should try: $./wotab -- Alexander Tanyukevich atanyukev...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] gv - default printer
On 10/02/11 15:56, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I *think* gv just calls lpr, so the question then is which is your default printer. Regards. El 02/10/2011 15:07, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com escribiA^3: Does anybody know how to setup default printer for gv Is it possible? -- Joseph Yes, you are correct. I didn't realize it. I have my default printer setup, but I was expecting to see something like: lpr -PHPIII and I only see lpr so I was always typing the default printer :-/ -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] BASH Completion - Mixing directories and executables
On 2 October 2011 16:37, Alexander Tanyukevich atanyukev...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, October 3, 2011, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if someone had a good suggestion to fix the following: $ woTAB $ wordTABTAB $ word wordforms wordlist2hunspell $workTAB $workspaces/ I'm trying to reach the workspaces directory but BASH completion seems to prefer executables. It seems to only list directories if no executables are found. Is it possible to combine them or something like that? Cheers, Hilco if you're disable bash completion situation will be the same. That's how it works. If you want to reach workspaces you should try: $./wotab I see. That's unfortunate. How do aliases fit in?
