Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Awesome WM, io.popen() attempt to index io nil value
Repeat the question on awes...@naquadah.org. Subscribe to it as usual, awesome+subscr...@naquadah.org.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook
Pandu Poluan writes: On Mar 5, 2012 3:37 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Now I have a related question: My new seagate Barracuda Green 2TB ST2000DL003-9VT166 drive has 4096 bytes per sector, but uses something that is called SmartAlign(TM) [*]. Seagate says that there are no performance impacts even when the partitions are misaligned. This would be good, because I completely forgot about this when creating partitions, and I would like to keep it as it is now. Has anyone heard about this? Can I trust Seagate that what they say is correct? [*] www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/de.../mb6101_smartalign_technology_faq.pdf Your URL got munged there, I can't download the pdf. Argh, how did that happen? I just copied from Firefox' address bar. And it was in German anyway. Sorry. But somehow interesting, seems I sometimes don't even notice which language a text is written in. Here is the English version: http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/whitepaper/tp615_smartalign_for_af_4k.pdf This link also has some information, and the other one explains what the problem with a 4K sector size is. But beware, this may well be Seagate propaganda. http://consumer.media.seagate.com/2010/06/the-digital-den/advanced-format-drives-with-smartalign/ http://consumer.media.seagate.com/2010/03/the-digital-den/4k-sector-hard-drive-primer/ Wonko
[gentoo-user] php 5.2 ebuild ?
Does anyone know where to get working ebuilds for PHP 5.2 ... ? Thanks, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Photo management programs
* Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com [120304 15:12]: So I take a lot of pictures. A *lot* of pictures. Sometimes around 500/month, sometimes twice that if I manage to get out more. I've got a large number of 'DCIM' directories from different cameras, different camera models, etc, going back ten years. Sometimes in JPG, sometimes RAW, sometimes both. And I've never really managed them well. Does anyone have any photo management tool they like? I've got bits of Qt and Gtk installed already, and while I'd prefer to avoid pulling in a full desktop environment, I might--if the tool is good enough. It would have to: * Handle RAW (via libraw or dcraw is fine), JPEG, PNG[1] and TIFF[1] content and metadata * Index by metadata, including things like the recording camera's serial number[2] * Not be destructive, or ambiguous about being destructive, on image import. I tried using Amarok to organize my music, which is in similar disarray, and I was never sure if it was being destructive about the source files/folders. So I made copies. Which ultimately added to the disarray. [1] My postprocessing occasionally winds up in lossless formats like these. [2] My fiancee and I have the same model camera, and occasionally need to share memory cards, so I'd like to be able to use serial number to distinguish whose is whose. -- :wq I like Digikam a lot. There's some rough edges, but part of that is because a lot of development is being done all the time on it with lots of new features added. Obviously sticking to a non-bleeding edge build would reduce that a lot. The developers are all quite responsive and the Gentoo packager (Andreas) is very active too. I run it from the command line without KDE running though it's a KDE app (so you'll have to pull in bits of KDE.) Try it though. It may not be the kind of managing you're looking for (though I think it can do everything you've mentioned above with a recent enough version.) Todd
[gentoo-user] EFI Boot Gentoo DVD-Live amd64 und HP-EFI-Bios
Hi, If eyeverone has an experience with that. I can boot in EFI Mode and install some other Linux distros on my Hp8440p . And I will do the same for Gentoo, but until today I cannot do that, or exactly only in legacy-boot. And this is perturbing my GPT Partition Table... I guess that actually it should not be a big problem. I tried with the IA64 and the hp-efi-bios sees the elilo.efi , but it cannot boot this kernel.. normal.. But with the amd64, i should be able to see the elilo.efi. The dvd or mimnimalcd install cannot boot the gentoo.efimg Image. Or am I false ? What is missing in the DVD-Live or Minimal CD Install to boot correctly in EFI Mode ? The path /boot/efi/ is missing ... like one of the working other distro... Thank you very much.. Claude
[gentoo-user] x11-wm/razorqt
http://razor-qt.org Well, KDE seems to know no end to bloat. So my search has begun. I like QT, so I'm looking for something based on QT, but not bloated like KDE. razorqt seems new and interesting. Has anyone any feedback about this ebuild? James
Re: [gentoo-user] php 5.2 ebuild ?
On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 14:46:32 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Does anyone know where to get working ebuilds for PHP 5.2 ... ? http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/dev-lang/php/?hideattic=0 -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 27: Military Intelligence signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] php 5.2 ebuild ?
Am 05.03.2012 14:58, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 14:46:32 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Does anyone know where to get working ebuilds for PHP 5.2 ... ? http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/dev-lang/php/?hideattic=0 oh, thanks ... Now it doesn't build because of a missing php5_2-sapi.eclass ... *sigh* Getting that old web-cyradm to work drives me crazy ... should have migrated from the start ...
Re: [gentoo-user] php 5.2 ebuild ?
Am 05.03.2012 15:06, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 05.03.2012 14:58, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 14:46:32 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Does anyone know where to get working ebuilds for PHP 5.2 ... ? http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/dev-lang/php/?hideattic=0 oh, thanks ... Now it doesn't build because of a missing php5_2-sapi.eclass ... *sigh* put the eclass into /usr/local/eclass ... now it fails to bunzip the pulled patchset ... even when I am able to manually bunzip it ... Things ain't easy. Oh no.
Re: [gentoo-user] php 5.2 ebuild ?
Am 05.03.2012 15:27, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
Am 05.03.2012 15:06, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
Am 05.03.2012 14:58, schrieb Neil Bothwick:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 14:46:32 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Does anyone know where to get working ebuilds for PHP 5.2 ... ?
http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/dev-lang/php/?hideattic=0
oh, thanks ...
Now it doesn't build because of a missing php5_2-sapi.eclass ... *sigh*
put the eclass into /usr/local/eclass ... now it fails to bunzip the
pulled patchset ... even when I am able to manually bunzip it ...
See:
php # ebuild php-5.2.9.ebuild fetch
* php-5.2.9.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...
[ ok ]
* php-patchset-5.2.9-r0.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...
[ ok ]
* checking ebuild checksums ;-) ...
[ ok ]
php # ebuild php-5.2.9.ebuild prepare
Existing ${T}/environment for 'php-5.2.9' will be sourced. Run 'clean'
to start with a fresh environment.
Not marked as unpacked; recreating WORKDIR...
* php-5.2.9.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...
[ ok ]
* php-patchset-5.2.9-r0.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...
[ ok ]
* checking ebuild checksums ;-) ...
[ ok ]
* This profile is merely a convenience for people who require a more
* minimal profile, yet are unable to use hardened due to restrictions in
* the software being used on the server. If you seek a secure
* production server profile, please check the Hardened project
* (http://hardened.gentoo.org)
cfg-update-1.8.2-r1: Checksum index is up-to-date ...
* Determining SAPI(s) to build
* Enabled SAPI: cli
* Disabled SAPI: cgi
* Enabled SAPI: apache2
Unpacking source...
Unpacking php-5.2.9.tar.bz2 to /var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/php-5.2.9/work
Unpacking php-patchset-5.2.9-r0.tar.bz2 to
/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/php-5.2.9/work
bzip2:
/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/php-5.2.9/distdir/php-patchset-5.2.9-r0.tar.bz2 is
not a bzip2 file.
tar: This does not look like a tar archive
tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
* ERROR: dev-lang/php-5.2.9 failed (unpack phase):
* failure unpacking php-patchset-5.2.9-r0.tar.bz2
*
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook
Grant writes: The performance is only impacted if the sector size is something other than 512 bytes. The newer 4K sector size used by some higher density drives requires that you start partitions on a sector boundary or they will perform badly. There isn't an actually performance need to actually start on 2048 but the fdisk-type developer folks are doing that to be more compatible with newer Windows installations. All my drives says this from fdisk: Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Neither fdisk nor hdparm seem to get the correct sector size, at least not always. That's what I read somewhere (and not only once), and it's true for my own 2TB drive which I know to have a 4K sector size. I'd say you have to look up the specs on the vendor's web size to be sure. So it doesn't matter where the first partition starts? If you have 4K sectors (and not a Seagate drive with SmartAlign [*]), it does. BTW, here's some benchmarks I just stumbled upon: http://hothardware.com/Articles/WDs-1TB-Caviar-Green-w-Advanced-Format-Windows-XP-Users-Pay-Attention/?page=2 [*] I don't want to sound like I'm advertising for Seagate here, but at least it seems that with SmartAlign the performance impact will be much less, so it might not be worth the trouble of re-partitioning drives that are already being used. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Photo management programs
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: So I take a lot of pictures. A *lot* of pictures. Sometimes around 500/month, sometimes twice that if I manage to get out more. I've got a large number of 'DCIM' directories from different cameras, different camera models, etc, going back ten years. Sometimes in JPG, sometimes RAW, sometimes both. And I've never really managed them well. Does anyone have any photo management tool they like? I've got bits of Qt and Gtk installed already, and while I'd prefer to avoid pulling in a full desktop environment, I might--if the tool is good enough. It would have to: * Handle RAW (via libraw or dcraw is fine), JPEG, PNG[1] and TIFF[1] content and metadata * Index by metadata, including things like the recording camera's serial number[2] * Not be destructive, or ambiguous about being destructive, on image import. I tried using Amarok to organize my music, which is in similar disarray, and I was never sure if it was being destructive about the source files/folders. So I made copies. Which ultimately added to the disarray. [1] My postprocessing occasionally winds up in lossless formats like these. [2] My fiancee and I have the same model camera, and occasionally need to share memory cards, so I'd like to be able to use serial number to distinguish whose is whose. As someone who also takes a LOT of pictures at times, I don't use software, I just use directories. Mine starts out like this: Camera directory Year subject matter image That works for me. I used to not have the year but that ends up with a LOT of pictures in a directory. Example of mine as it goes to a actual image: Camera-pics/2012/New Years/2012-01-05-8.JPG I have been using gtkam to download my pics for years. Thing is, it has a bug up its butt and wants to crash at random times, usually when changing the directories. Anyway, it always crashes before I am done and lets just say it gets on my freaking nerves. So, I tried digikam. Well, my camera has multiple directories and for some reason it doesn't show them all and then duplicates other images to boot. I may have 2 or 3 copies of the same picture. I have yet to figure out why that is and google, now startpage, has not helped me either. Maybe I am searching for the wrong thing? If you want software to help manage your images, I'd try digikam. If it works for you and your camera, it should do fine. If you want to go my route, try gtkam and hope like heck it doesn't crash for you too. Right now, both of those get on my nerves for different reasons. Hope that helps and is clearer than mud. Maybe someone will come along with a better plan for us both too. lol Based on this and other posts in the thread, I'll probably give digikam a try. I did want to clarify one point, though: I don't connect the camera to the computer; I put the SD card into a card reader, and copy from there. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] EFI Boot Gentoo DVD-Live amd64 und HP-EFI-Bios
On 5 March 2012, at 13:51, claude angéloz wrote: ... What is missing in the DVD-Live or Minimal CD Install to boot correctly in EFI Mode ? The path /boot/efi/ is missing ... like one of the working other distro... Use a different liveCD. Try systemRescueCD first. Earlier today Grant mentioned success with a kbuntu disk (I thought they'd stopped making that?). Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook
On Mar 5, 2012 11:04 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Grant writes: The performance is only impacted if the sector size is something other than 512 bytes. The newer 4K sector size used by some higher density drives requires that you start partitions on a sector boundary or they will perform badly. There isn't an actually performance need to actually start on 2048 but the fdisk-type developer folks are doing that to be more compatible with newer Windows installations. All my drives says this from fdisk: Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Neither fdisk nor hdparm seem to get the correct sector size, at least not always. That's what I read somewhere (and not only once), and it's true for my own 2TB drive which I know to have a 4K sector size. I'd say you have to look up the specs on the vendor's web size to be sure. So it doesn't matter where the first partition starts? If you have 4K sectors (and not a Seagate drive with SmartAlign [*]), it does. BTW, here's some benchmarks I just stumbled upon: http://hothardware.com/Articles/WDs-1TB-Caviar-Green-w-Advanced-Format-Windows-XP-Users-Pay-Attention/?page=2 [*] I don't want to sound like I'm advertising for Seagate here, but at least it seems that with SmartAlign the performance impact will be much less, so it might not be worth the trouble of re-partitioning drives that are already being used. Wonko The problem with SmartAlign is that..*.* it's magic... once you run out of mana, you can kiss your data goodbye. In other words, I tried to find how it works, but Seagate seems to be mum; and that is ungood. Without knowing how exactly the technology works, how can we be sure that it won't blow up when encountering edge/corner cases? So, albeit nice (in the sense that one does not have to experience the headache in ensuring that partitions are properly aligned), I personally will stay away from magical things. Rgds,
[gentoo-user] Color profiles and colorspace awareness
What's the current state of color space awareness and color profiles on Linux? I'm at the point where I'd be willing to spring for a calibration kit to calibrate my monitors, which did not themselves come with color profiles...except all the kits I've seen seem to assume Windows. I'd like to move towards having a full color-aware workflow for both my LDR and HDR (DEF-JPG, DEF-hugin-stitch-JPG) work, and I'd like to do it on Linux. I don't want to ask these kinds of questions in more photography-oriented environments, because I'm tired of being peppered with Just use a Mac, Just use Windows and Just use Photoshop responses. I know Gimp and ufraw support colorspace profiles, I've seen the USE flags in portage, it's just the inputs and outputs of my workflow which I don't yet see how to cover. Slightly offtopic: I'd love to be able to set up a color profile for my Pentax K-x's raw output, too. Anyone aware of a -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Color profiles and colorspace awareness
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: What's the current state of color space awareness and color profiles on Linux? I'm at the point where I'd be willing to spring for a calibration kit to calibrate my monitors, which did not themselves come with color profiles...except all the kits I've seen seem to assume Windows. media-gfx/argyllcms supports many kinds of hardware calibration devices and lets you do color management in gentoo. Their website has a list of the supported hardware: http://www.argyllcms.com/doc/instruments.html I have not used it myself, but hopefully that's enough to get you Googling for some case studies :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Color profiles and colorspace awareness
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: What's the current state of color space awareness and color profiles on Linux? I'm at the point where I'd be willing to spring for a calibration kit to calibrate my monitors, which did not themselves come with color profiles...except all the kits I've seen seem to assume Windows. media-gfx/argyllcms supports many kinds of hardware calibration devices and lets you do color management in gentoo. Their website has a list of the supported hardware: http://www.argyllcms.com/doc/instruments.html I have not used it myself, but hopefully that's enough to get you Googling for some case studies :) That's exactly the kind of lead I needed, thanks! -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Photo management programs
Michael Mol wrote: Based on this and other posts in the thread, I'll probably give digikam a try. I did want to clarify one point, though: I don't connect the camera to the computer; I put the SD card into a card reader, and copy from there. It is a nice program and I'm pretty sure it allows you to download from your card too. I'm not sure gtkam will allow downloads from the card so you are likely headed down the right road. Honestly, if digikam worked right with my camera, I'd use it in a heart beat. I like it but I can't get my pics to show up right. I can't figure out why tho. Maybe I should try getting from the stick like you do? Thing is, I leave my camera on the tri-pod about 90% of the time. The card is on the bottom of mine beside the battery. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] Photo management programs
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: Based on this and other posts in the thread, I'll probably give digikam a try. I did want to clarify one point, though: I don't connect the camera to the computer; I put the SD card into a card reader, and copy from there. It is a nice program and I'm pretty sure it allows you to download from your card too. I'm not sure gtkam will allow downloads from the card so you are likely headed down the right road. Well, I use scp to move the files from machines with with card readers to the machines I do processing. If digikam has any kind of 'import' support, that'd do it. Honestly, if digikam worked right with my camera, I'd use it in a heart beat. I like it but I can't get my pics to show up right. I can't figure out why tho. Maybe I should try getting from the stick like you do? Thing is, I leave my camera on the tri-pod about 90% of the time. The card is on the bottom of mine beside the battery. Check out the Eye-Fi? http://www.eye.fi/ When I first heard about it, someone had just gotten a receiving daemon written in Python to work with it. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Photo management programs
* Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [120305 12:09]: [..] Honestly, if digikam worked right with my camera, I'd use it in a heart beat. I like it but I can't get my pics to show up right. I can't figure out why tho. Maybe I should try getting from the stick like you do? Thing is, I leave my camera on the tri-pod about 90% of the time. The card is on the bottom of mine beside the battery. Dale Have you tried a more recent Digikam Dale? They use libgphoto2 (I believe) and also recently pulled in more support internally (again, I believe) so they continue to improve camera support. I don't know offhand what's what in the latest Gentoo stable and testing ebuilds though as I build from the upstream git in most cases. Todd
Re: [gentoo-user] php 5.2 ebuild ?
It seems as if I solved the original problem by *simply* correcting a typo ... you know ... Thanks, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Photo management programs
Todd Goodman wrote: * Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [120305 12:09]: [..] Honestly, if digikam worked right with my camera, I'd use it in a heart beat. I like it but I can't get my pics to show up right. I can't figure out why tho. Maybe I should try getting from the stick like you do? Thing is, I leave my camera on the tri-pod about 90% of the time. The card is on the bottom of mine beside the battery. Dale Have you tried a more recent Digikam Dale? They use libgphoto2 (I believe) and also recently pulled in more support internally (again, I believe) so they continue to improve camera support. I don't know offhand what's what in the latest Gentoo stable and testing ebuilds though as I build from the upstream git in most cases. Todd Yep, I unmasked and unkeyworded the ones that were available at the time. Is unkeyworded a word in Gentoo? H. I did file a roach report with gtkam on the crash and that the gimp plugin seems to trigger it. Maybe they will have a fix. Since I don't use gtkam from within Gimp, I don't really care myself but I would like to help fix it for someone else who does use it that way. There is some more updates I could do tho. Here is the current versions: root@fireball / # equery list gtkam libgphoto2 libexif-gtk gtk+ * Searching for gtkam ... [IP-] [ ] media-gfx/gtkam-0.1.18:0 * Searching for libgphoto2 ... [IP-] [ ] media-libs/libgphoto2-2.4.11-r1:0 * Searching for libexif-gtk ... [IP-] [ ] media-libs/libexif-gtk-0.3.5-r2:0 * Searching for gtk+ ... [IP-] [ ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.8-r1:2 [IP-] [ ] x11-libs/gtk+-3.0.12-r1:3 root@fireball / # When I add the -p option I see newer ones that have been added since I played with this. May have a new project. Maybe update that stuff then try the gimp flag again. The problem with Digikam is weird and sort of hard to explain. My camera has directories sorted by the date. Sometimes I have 15 or 20 directories. Digikam seems to show a couple directories in one view window but ignores the rest. Then on top of that, some images with the same file name are duplicated, some even more than twice. Is that called triplicated? lol I think it is a setting or something that I am missing. It could be a bug but I think it is just a bad setting or some setting I need to change but can't find. It wouldn't be the first time I didn't have a light bulb moment. o_O Now that I have gtkam working, at least I can get my pics off and it not crash part way through. So, I'm not to worried about digikam but may play with it some more, especially if it updates again. Maybe I should check the USE flags again too. Maybe that would help some. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] EFI Boot Gentoo DVD-Live amd64 und HP-EFI-Bios
Hi, Thank. With the last SytemRescueCD (copied to an usb-stick) my efi bios see that the usb-stick coulb be efi-bootable. I see both HD and the USB Devices in my EFI Navigator.. I can navigate within the SystemRescueCD trough my EFI FileSystem Navigator . I cannot boot on this usb (open an .efi file), however. Now I will check the files needed which was wrotten in my usb. I guess that I must transfer the Gentoo 2012 dvd Image file to my usb stick...but i dont know exact. I see an old procedure to put a cd into an usb ...but i am not sure if it is same about to Gento 2012.. Or I must change the DVD Gentoo 2012 ISO Image (or an old version) to includes an efi-able boot sector ... but i dont know how to rebuild the iso image from a file system which includes the right dvd boot sector. Claude Le lundi 05 mars 2012 à 16:22 +, Stroller a écrit : On 5 March 2012, at 13:51, claude angéloz wrote: ... What is missing in the DVD-Live or Minimal CD Install to boot correctly in EFI Mode ? The path /boot/efi/ is missing ... like one of the working other distro... Use a different liveCD. Try systemRescueCD first. Earlier today Grant mentioned success with a kbuntu disk (I thought they'd stopped making that?). Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Photo management programs
Michael Mol wrote: Check out the Eye-Fi? http://www.eye.fi/ When I first heard about it, someone had just gotten a receiving daemon written in Python to work with it. Well, I don't have any wi-fi around here. I live in the sticks but I still don't want that, not yet at least. It does look neat tho. I also am going to have to get a new card. My old one is getting slow. I think it is old age, like me. lol Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] EFI Boot Gentoo DVD-Live amd64 und HP-EFI-Bios
Hi, I found the following link to create an usblive http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml I will try this to check if this will be efi-able bootable Claude Le lundi 05 mars 2012 à 19:38 +0100, claude angéloz a écrit : Hi, Thank. With the last SytemRescueCD (copied to an usb-stick) my efi bios see that the usb-stick coulb be efi-bootable. I see both HD and the USB Devices in my EFI Navigator.. I can navigate within the SystemRescueCD trough my EFI FileSystem Navigator . I cannot boot on this usb (open an .efi file), however. Now I will check the files needed which was wrotten in my usb. I guess that I must transfer the Gentoo 2012 dvd Image file to my usb stick...but i dont know exact. I see an old procedure to put a cd into an usb ...but i am not sure if it is same about to Gento 2012.. Or I must change the DVD Gentoo 2012 ISO Image (or an old version) to includes an efi-able boot sector ... but i dont know how to rebuild the iso image from a file system which includes the right dvd boot sector. Claude Le lundi 05 mars 2012 à 16:22 +, Stroller a écrit : On 5 March 2012, at 13:51, claude angéloz wrote: ... What is missing in the DVD-Live or Minimal CD Install to boot correctly in EFI Mode ? The path /boot/efi/ is missing ... like one of the working other distro... Use a different liveCD. Try systemRescueCD first. Earlier today Grant mentioned success with a kbuntu disk (I thought they'd stopped making that?). Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook
On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 23:33:20 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Mar 5, 2012 11:04 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Grant writes: The performance is only impacted if the sector size is something other than 512 bytes. The newer 4K sector size used by some higher density drives requires that you start partitions on a sector boundary or they will perform badly. There isn't an actually performance need to actually start on 2048 but the fdisk-type developer folks are doing that to be more compatible with newer Windows installations. All my drives says this from fdisk: Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Neither fdisk nor hdparm seem to get the correct sector size, at least not always. That's what I read somewhere (and not only once), and it's true for my own 2TB drive which I know to have a 4K sector size. I'd say you have to look up the specs on the vendor's web size to be sure. So it doesn't matter where the first partition starts? If you have 4K sectors (and not a Seagate drive with SmartAlign [*]), it does. BTW, here's some benchmarks I just stumbled upon: http://hothardware.com/Articles/WDs-1TB-Caviar-Green-w-Advanced-Format-Windows-XP-Users-Pay-Attention/?page=2 [*] I don't want to sound like I'm advertising for Seagate here, but at least it seems that with SmartAlign the performance impact will be much less, so it might not be worth the trouble of re-partitioning drives that are already being used. Wonko The problem with SmartAlign is that..*.* it's magic... once you run out of mana, you can kiss your data goodbye. In other words, I tried to find how it works, but Seagate seems to be mum; and that is ungood. Without knowing how exactly the technology works, how can we be sure that it won't blow up when encountering edge/corner cases? So, albeit nice (in the sense that one does not have to experience the headache in ensuring that partitions are properly aligned), I personally will stay away from magical things. Heretic!! Beleive the magic you muggle!! :-) -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Grant writes: The performance is only impacted if the sector size is something other than 512 bytes. The newer 4K sector size used by some higher density drives requires that you start partitions on a sector boundary or they will perform badly. There isn't an actually performance need to actually start on 2048 but the fdisk-type developer folks are doing that to be more compatible with newer Windows installations. All my drives says this from fdisk: Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Neither fdisk nor hdparm seem to get the correct sector size, at least not always. That's what I read somewhere (and not only once), and it's true for my own 2TB drive which I know to have a 4K sector size. I'd say you have to look up the specs on the vendor's web size to be sure. So it doesn't matter where the first partition starts? If you have 4K sectors (and not a Seagate drive with SmartAlign [*]), it does. BTW, here's some benchmarks I just stumbled upon: http://hothardware.com/Articles/WDs-1TB-Caviar-Green-w-Advanced-Format-Windows-XP-Users-Pay-Attention/?page=2 [*] I don't want to sound like I'm advertising for Seagate here, but at least it seems that with SmartAlign the performance impact will be much less, so it might not be worth the trouble of re-partitioning drives that are already being used. Wonko Also, it counts with SSDs, where alignment,or lack therof, with the erase block becomes noticeable on write performance. Finding the actual size of an erase block for most SSDs is rather difficult, but 1MB tends to be a reliable guess as a multiple of *that* as well. -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Mar 5, 2012 4:59 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
All my drives says this from fdisk:
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
So it doesn't matter where the first partition starts?
Older BIOSes don't understand that hard disks now can have 4KiB sectors, so
some of the advanced format hard disks report a sector size of 512B. But
behind the scenes, the hard disk maps the logical sector to a subsector of
the physical sector.
The only sure fire way to find out if your hard disk uses 4KiB sectors is to
open your computer and eyeball the hard disk. All 4KiB hard disks that I
know of have statements on their surface that tell me so.
Rgds,
I think I must be kind of late to this conversation, but as background
consider hdparm -i coupled with Google for the actual spec:
c2stable ~ # hdparm -i /dev/sdg
/dev/sdg:
Model=WDC WD10EARS-00Z5B1, FwRev=80.00A80, SerialNo=WD-WCAVU0415076
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec SpinMotCtl Fixed DTR5Mbs FmtGapReq }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=50
BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=unknown, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off
CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=1953525168
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 *udma6
AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: Unspecified: ATA/ATAPI-1,2,3,4,5,6,7
* signifies the current active mode
c2stable ~ #
With the model number it takes only a minute to determine that this WD
drive is a 4K sector drive. (Which is marked on the drive, as you
state, but I'd have to remove it to find that out.)
Now, in terms of performance, the only requirement (as I understand
it) is that all drive partition be aligned to sector addresses
divisible by 8. (512 * 8 = 4K) The reason 63 gives low performance is
because it's not naturally aligned by 8. With older versions of fdisk
if I started the first partition at 64 then the performance was fine
and only one sector was wasted.
M$, for whatever reason, decided to start at 2048, which is divisible
by 8, reserving the area at the front of the drive for (I think) their
boot loader and other M$-y things. My understanding of why fdisk now
enforces this is simply to be more careful about not overwriting the
M$ boot loaderif it's there. (But I could be very wrong about that!)
Remember, it's possible to make a dual boot system using M$'s loader
instead of grub, and important that fdisk doesn't mangle it when
someone is using that tool.
Just my views,
Mark
[gentoo-user] kscreensaver
Hi I wonder how to solve my problem with kscreensaver : it launch when idle, ok, but also when a film is on (witch looks like idle, but not actually, obviously). So, what to do, do you think ? Thanks for help guys ! -- Stéphane Guedon | www.22decembre.eu Protegez vos courriers sur internet aussi, utilisez gpg ! http://www.22decembre.eu/2012/02/27/proteger-vos-courriels-avec-gpg/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] x11-wm/razorqt
On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:53:04 + (UTC) James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: http://razor-qt.org Well, KDE seems to know no end to bloat. So my search has begun. I like QT, so I'm looking for something based on QT, but not bloated like KDE. razorqt seems new and interesting. Has anyone any feedback about this ebuild? James Have been using razorqt for several days now and have had no problems. No problems using it and no problems ebuilding it on amd64 system Works very well with openbox or xfwm4 as window managers. Its simplicity is good. Configuration is easy. Not too much to say really, its clean and I like it a lot. Hopefully there is plenty more to come. -- John D Maunder
[gentoo-user] Why can't I print in landscape?
Is there some secret setting to allow me to print in landscape from FF, or Chromium, or Okular? No matter what I set in the application my printer (HP 930c) will only print in portrait and chop off half the page. :-( -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] EFI Boot Gentoo DVD-Live amd64 und HP-EFI-Bios
On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 16:22:35 +, Stroller wrote: Use a different liveCD. Try systemRescueCD first. Earlier today Grant mentioned success with a kbuntu disk (I thought they'd stopped making that?). They have, or at least they've stopped financing it, so it will be purely community supported now, but they haven't unmade the discs that are already out there :) -- Neil Bothwick Press every key to continue. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Photo management programs
On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 12:10:40 -0500, Michael Mol wrote: Well, I use scp to move the files from machines with with card readers to the machines I do processing. If digikam has any kind of 'import' support, that'd do it. Just drop the files into Digikam's working directory and run Scan for new images - you can have it scan automatically at startup, at the expense of startup time. -- Neil Bothwick Politics: Poli (many) - tics (blood sucking parasites) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Photo management programs
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 11:04:47AM -0600, Dale wrote: Michael Mol wrote: Based on this and other posts in the thread, I'll probably give digikam a try. I did want to clarify one point, though: I don't connect the camera to the computer; I put the SD card into a card reader, and copy from there. It is a nice program and I'm pretty sure it allows you to download from your card too. I'm not sure gtkam will allow downloads from the card so you are likely headed down the right road. Honestly, if digikam worked right with my camera, I'd use it in a heart beat. I like it but I can't get my pics to show up right. --^ Since your spelling is not always 100% precise ;-) do you really mean show up right, or do you mean show upright? The latter is a question of support by your camera. But why bother with it a special download function in the first place? Most cameras support standard USB mass storage protocol, so if you set your camera to it and plug it in via USB, it shows up as a normal mass storage device. Digikam then recognises the folder structure on it and allows you to download the images. I'm still more old school -- I copy the images over from the card using $filemanager and then import them selectively into my digikam collection, which allows me to keep it clean more easily. Digikam is a really great management application. I've been using it since KDE 3 times. Its strong points are tagging and organising, and subsequent rediscovery by tags and descriptions you assign to a photo. And though I myself haven't used it much yet apart from a few select features, it has a nice editing program, too. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' I forbid any use of my email addresses with Facebook services. The situation has never been so serious... as always. pgprNWPLdWb5T.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Why can't I print in landscape?
On 03/05/2012 02:24 PM, Mick wrote: Is there some secret setting to allow me to print in landscape from FF, or Chromium, or Okular? No matter what I set in the application my printer (HP 930c) will only print in portrait and chop off half the page. :-( In FF I see buttons for portrait and landscape in the 'print setup' and 'print preview' menus. You don't have those buttons?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why can't I print in landscape?
On Monday 05 Mar 2012 23:55:31 walt wrote: On 03/05/2012 02:24 PM, Mick wrote: Is there some secret setting to allow me to print in landscape from FF, or Chromium, or Okular? No matter what I set in the application my printer (HP 930c) will only print in portrait and chop off half the page. :-( In FF I see buttons for portrait and landscape in the 'print setup' and 'print preview' menus. You don't have those buttons? Yes I do. I select landscape and get portrait coming out. :-( Also, in a full KDE desktop I select the hplip tooltray applet (or whatever its called) and also change in there the settings to print landscape. Still no success. Only in libreoffice I can print in landscape a test page, after I change the libreoffice print manager settings, but what I want is to print one of the google maps in landscape from a browser and can't do it! Even when I print in pdf from the browser (the pdf is landscape) I can't thereafter print it as such. It keeps coming out as portrait. I stopped printing for now because I'm running out of paper! :-/ -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] kscreensaver
Am 05.03.2012 22:41, schrieb Stephane Guedon: Hi I wonder how to solve my problem with kscreensaver : it launch when idle, ok, but also when a film is on (witch looks like idle, but not actually, obviously). So, what to do, do you think ? Thanks for help guys ! mplayer, mplayer2 and vlc have the capability to turn screensavers off. However, I think this only works with xscreensaver. Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
