Re: [gentoo-user] Use brctl from bridge-utils or bridge from iproute2?

[Miroslav Rovis]

On 161016-03:05+, Erik Mackdanz wrote:
> Miroslav Rovis  writes:
...
> > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Iproute2#iproute2_for_net-tools_swappers
> >
> > -- also notice that bridge in not in the swappers there --
> I just added 'ip link set master'

But that's not entirely correct, although only because the:

brctl addbr
brctl addif

do not belong under "net-tools".

You, or someone else, should make a separate table with the comparison
of the bridge-utils (containing brctl) and iproute2's utilitiy bridge.

And then probably also the usermode-utilities (containing tunctl) and
whatever the iproute2's utilitiy is that replaces those.

Regards!
-- 
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr


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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 49.0 & Youtube....Video: Yes - Audio: No...

[Miroslav Rovis]

On 161015-20:27+0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> this evening I updated GENTOO and a new firefox was installed.
> This one seem completly to disable flash video finally...
> since I got no video/audio at all.
> 
> I disabled all flash-related addons of my firefox and
> restarted  it.
> 
> Now I got a video ... but without any audio.
> (I am running jackd by the way).
> I check with qjackctl whether there were any
> ports which I missed to connect...nothing.

If jackd is to do with alsa, then it could be the following.

Mozilla went pulse all the way:
 Require PulseAudio on Linux
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1247056
See also:
Firefox nightly requires Pulse Audio
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20=130028

> Hmmm...
> 
> Is there any fix for that?
Not familiar with jackd. But as far as alsa (which I stick to, like
other discontented users), I don't have sound since months ago.  The
only way to get it would be to compile alsa myself, I'm afraid. 

Regards!
-- 
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr


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Re: [gentoo-user] Use brctl from bridge-utils or bridge from iproute2?

[Miroslav Rovis]

Hi, Erik!

On 161016-03:13+, Erik Mackdanz wrote:
> Erik Mackdanz  writes:
> 
> >> How is this done with the bridge utility from iproute2 package is not very
> >> clear to a non-expert. It sure is all completely different than with brctl.
> > ip link set master br0 dev eth0
> 
> Sorry, that's half the story.  To create the bridge:
> 
> ip link add dev br0 type bridge
> 
> You'll see the link type and all the bridge settings if you use the
> 'details' flag:
> 
> ip -d link
>

And thanks! For this and the previous email.

But I couldn't wait long enought, and I set my bridge up with brctl.
I need it for this complex story here:
http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-161015-qemu-devuan/
and it has already tired me very much by now (and likely that story,
somewhat Gentoo specific on my part, is not over yet).

Once bridge from iproute2 is in the netifrc documentation, and esp. in
the https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Network_bridge#OpenRC I sure will use
it. I'm not very advanced to be completely at ease even with brctl :-) .

And thanks for adding it to the Wiki.

Regards!
-- 
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr


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Re: [gentoo-user] Use brctl from bridge-utils or bridge from iproute2?

[Erik Mackdanz]

Erik Mackdanz  writes:

>> How is this done with the bridge utility from iproute2 package is not very
>> clear to a non-expert. It sure is all completely different than with brctl.
> ip link set master br0 dev eth0

Sorry, that's half the story.  To create the bridge:

ip link add dev br0 type bridge

You'll see the link type and all the bridge settings if you use the
'details' flag:

ip -d link

Erik

Re: [gentoo-user] Use brctl from bridge-utils or bridge from iproute2?

[Erik Mackdanz]

Miroslav Rovis  writes:

> How is this done with the bridge utility from iproute2 package is not very
> clear to a non-expert. It sure is all completely different than with brctl.
ip link set master br0 dev eth0

in the output of 'ip link' and 'ip addr' you'll see that eth0 shows
'master br0'

> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Iproute2#iproute2_for_net-tools_swappers
>
> -- also notice that bridge in not in the swappers there --
I just added 'ip link set master'

I agree it would be good if netifrc and other wiki documents converted
to iproute2 to replace brctl commands.

Erik

[gentoo-user] Use brctl from bridge-utils or bridge from iproute2?

[Miroslav Rovis]

Hi!

The:
/usr/share/doc/netifrc-0.4.0/net.example.bz2
from the net-misc/netifrc package reads:

# Bridging (802.1d)
# For bridging support emerge net-misc/bridge-utils

# To add ports to bridge br0
#bridge_br0="eth0 eth1"
...
et cetera
...

How is this done with the bridge utility from iproute2 package is not very
clear to a non-expert. It sure is all completely different than with brctl.

Reminds me of how lots of people still prefer iptables over netfilter,
because there are good reason to do so.

It this a similar case?

While managing ones' ethernet interfaces, esp. the link and address of,
surely iproute2 package is superior than net-tools suite (expecially
the ip is superior than the ifconfig), and I mostly switched to the
better iproute2 replacements for net-tools suite, as per:

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Iproute2#iproute2_for_net-tools_swappers

-- also notice that bridge in not in the swappers there --
).

The net-tools vs. iproute2 question is solved for me in that respect.

However I can much more easily use the brctl from: 
net-misc/bridge-utils

(and indeed, https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Network_bridge still suggests so)
than the bridge from Iproute2 package.

Stick to bridge-utils or try the bridge from Iproute2?

And if the latter, any suggestions of a more detailed and more complete
and more user friendly tutorials?

Regards!
-- 
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr


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[gentoo-user] Firefox 49.0 & Youtube....Video: Yes - Audio: No...

[Meino . Cramer]

Hi,

this evening I updated GENTOO and a new firefox was installed.
This one seem completly to disable flash video finally...
since I got no video/audio at all.

I disabled all flash-related addons of my firefox and
restarted  it.

Now I got a video ... but without any audio.
(I am running jackd by the way).
I check with qjackctl whether there were any
ports which I missed to connect...nothing.

Hmmm...

Is there any fix for that?

Best regards,
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager Auto Connect

[Silvio Siefke]

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 12:51:36 +0200
Alexander Openkowski  wrote:

> I have the same problem. Unfortunately, I do not know of any fix (did
> not have the time to really investigate the problem, yet). I connect

Yeah is not found really information, think will see is there a bug in
gnome panel. 

> to wireless networks manually in the meantime, which is getting on my
> nerves more and more every day. :-) 

I write a script on autostart:

siefke@sisibox ~ $ cat .bin/scripts/wlan.sh 
#!/bin/bash
nmcli c up id NotForPrivatUse

this work at moment on all maschines. 


Nice day
Silvio
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alpine

[Jorge Almeida]

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Martin Vaeth  wrote:
> Jorge Almeida  wrote:
>> Is there a technical reason for forcing the use of PAM on gentoo?
>
> No. You can use alpine from the mv overlay which has a pam useflag.
>
>
Thank you.

J.

[gentoo-user] Re: alpine

[Martin Vaeth]

Jorge Almeida  wrote:
> Is there a technical reason for forcing the use of PAM on gentoo?

No. You can use alpine from the mv overlay which has a pam useflag.

[gentoo-user] alpine

[Jorge Almeida]

alpine requires PAM?!

$ emerge -p alpine

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N ] sys-libs/pam-1.2.1  USE="berkdb cracklib pie -audit
-debug -nis -nls (-selinux) {-test} -vim-syntax"
[ebuild  N ] sys-auth/pambase-20150213  USE="cracklib nullok
sha512 -consolekit -debug -gnome-keyring -minimal -mktemp -pam_krb5
-pam_ssh -passwdqc -securetty (-selinux) -systemd"
[ebuild  N ] virtual/pam-0-r1
[ebuild  N ] mail-client/alpine-2.00-r5  USE="chappa ipv6 passfile
smime ssl -doc -kerberos -ldap -nls -onlyalpine -spell -threads
-topal"



I have a  PAM-free system. I've been using alpine 2.20 on Slackware
14.1 without PAM.
Is there a technical reason for forcing the use of PAM on gentoo?

TIA

Jorge Almeida

Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager Auto Connect

[Alexander Openkowski]

I have the same problem. Unfortunately, I do not know of any fix (did
not have the time to really investigate the problem, yet). I connect to
wireless networks manually in the meantime, which is getting on my
nerves more and more every day. :-) By the way: It seems that also wired
networks are affected.

On 10/14/2016 06:26 PM, Silvio Siefke wrote:
> Hello, 
>
> since networkmanger version 1.4 auto connect with wlan not work anymore
> when logged in. Have someone same problem? Could find fix?
>
> siefke@sisibox ~ $ find /var/db/pkg -name "networkmanager*" -type d
> /var/db/pkg/net-misc/networkmanager-1.4.2
> /var/db/pkg/net-misc/networkmanager-openvpn-1.2.6
>
>
> siefke@sisibox ~ $ equery u networkmanager | cut -c -30
> -audit
> +bluetooth
> +connection-sharing
> +consolekit
> +dhclient
> -gnutls
> +introspection
> -json
> +modemmanager
> -ncurses
> +nss
> -ofono
> +ppp
> +resolvconf
> -systemd
> -teamd
> -test
> +vala
> -wext
> +wifi
>
> Thank you & Nice Day
> Silvio