Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - which X terminal do you use?
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 02:41 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: Samuel Baldwin wrote: Alexander Skwar wrote: That's something I'll never understand - why make the text on a terminal harder to read, by using transparency? Granted, it'll look better, but that's it. IMO transparency is one of the most useless features. True, it's not that usefull, but it does look nice. Yes, it certainly has the potential to look nice. No doubt. I don't use transparency. I don't care about it enough to spend the time to get the right balance. Also, I use a laptop, and my screen's brightness fluctuates with my battery level. So, the opacity for being plugged in isn't the same for being unplugged. I just use this green on black scheme which is visually intimidating but remarkably easy to read at all different screen brightnesses. I like it. It provides a nice change of pace, so that way, when you're running a terminal in X, it doesn't look exactly like the regular shell. Well - a terminal is something to work with. And this has to be functional and not provide a change of pace. Totally. That's why I push YaKuake. It's so darn accessible that it's there when I want it. I learned most of what I know about Linux command shells with YaKuake on Kubuntu, just because it was so easy to be reading a web page, pop down YaKuake, try something out, all while still looking at the web page. It was truly awesome. As far as making it harder to read, I've found it quite easy. If it conflicts with your background design, just change the text color. My text color is black, as my background is white, which is, BTW, the best to read for the majority of people (if you're not handicapped, that is). That's so, because the contrast between the text and the background cannot be higher than with black on white (or white on black). You're using a CRT and a desktop, no doubt. You see, reccommending this for all users is a big no-no, since on many displays a higher contrast ratio will make eyestrain a first rate problem. I don't think there's any setting that is best, rather, I think users should be encouraged to experiment around to find the best balance of eye candy, readability, and functionality for them and their monitor and lighting. It is also possible to turn the transparency off, if needed. Yep. That's what I do. Same. Partially because my poor Intel i810 series graphics chip would wither up and die if I tried to put any more compositing than I do now with it (none.) My CPU ends up rendering most things, which is annoying, since my CPU spikes whenever I'm rendering anything. Oh well... someone will make a better driver someday. Either way I don't care - if I need power I go to my desktop machine, which will make most other boxes look like small graphing calculators with USB ports. : ) pgpadANZAyPbr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 11:33 am, Neil Bothwick wrote: I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? I love YaKuake. It's better than Kuake in that it's just Konsole on a miniblinds widget. It's superior because of its ultra-accessibility. Anywhere you can just hit your key combination and *pop* there's trusty old YaKuake. It supports multiple console tabs, which is almost a total necessity in my point of view. Second in my list is Konsole, chiefly because of it's customizability. I can tinker with the visual settings until I'm happy. Next is XTerm, and I've only used that out of necessity. It's really bland, but it gets the job done. I understand YaKuake works in Gnome, but it is a native KDE app. If you don't think YaKuake is worth your time, perhaps giving it a try will change your mind. It's far easier than finding a bare patch of desktop in Red Hat, right clicking, and the selecting new XTerm window, and it's much easier than KMenu-Terminal Sessions-Linux Console. My favorite keyboard combination for YaKuake (I think the default ones were made by Gnome developers) is alt+`. This is a deviation from the Quake-style in-game console (for which Kuake is named, which YaKuake is a descendent of) which is activated by hitting `. This isn't feasible in a desktop enviornment since that key will be needed by other applications and things, however, I find that by combining it with the alt key it tends to work out really quite nicely. I'm still waiting for it to become avaliable in Gentoo, though now that I've figured out about package masking I'm reconsidering my decision to wait... Let's hope this generates some interesting comment before degenerating into a subset of the typical KDE/GNOME flamefest ;-/ I will throw myself onto any grenades thrown in a possible flamewar. pgp2SlneQ5JZV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games
On Friday 05 May 2006 09:06 pm, JimD wrote: Ok, this is a three part question. I am on vacation and I am using my wife's laptop that used to have winxp and now has Gentoo. Starting today I started to get garbled video output followed by a lock-up. I have been using the laptop as my dev platform and keeping it running 24x7. I am not sure if this is messing it up or not. It seems to stay pretty warm. I bought an extra 1GB of mem for the laptop and put that in today after the first lockup. I ran memtest for about 10 minutes and didn't see any issues. Laptops are NOT meant to run 24/7. They don't have the cooling to survive for more than a few hours. Get some fans or something to save it before you fry something. The laptop has an Intel Extreme graphics chip. Every time before the lockup, the video gets all messed up with vertical and horizontal lines. I just went in the bios and changed the CPU speed to LOW which is now 800Mhz Pentium M instead of 1.73GHz, changed the screen brightness to the lowest. I also switched the X driver from i810 to vesa. So far it seems a little more stable. However, after a recent startx, when X first comes up I see a quick flash of my previous desktop on the screen. It seems like the memory wasn't cleared and the junk left in it is displayed for a second while X is initializing. This Extreme chip uses system memory. Has anyone had issue like this? Couple times. I use a IBM X40 with the i810 drivers. Mine is a Intel Extreme Graphics 2 chip. I hate its guts. It's so non-standard it's like finding a needle in a haystack to get anything to work with it. Right now I have a problem like so: I send the machine into sleep mode. I come out of sleep mode and the screen is off. I restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace and the screen revives. Nothing I know of can restore the screen to activity without killing and then reviving X. The Intel graphics chips are still very new as far as linux support is concerned, at least in my experience. I'd give it some time. I have always been a desktop person so I am not used to these tender laptops. Do these issues sound like they are caused by over heating? Or could it be hardware? This thing is only 2-3 months old. I better not have to send it to Toshiba already. I have a Satellite M45-S2692. Stop running it 24/7! It's not *supposed* to do that! Now for the games part. I can't compile/play some of the bigger games and now I am POed : ) What games? Are there any recommendations for fun games in Gentoo that could run fine with the vesa drive? I am trying to find some game to help pass the time on my vacation at my in-laws ; ) Some guys I eat lunch with have gotten a amazing amount of enjoyment out of a game called KBounce. pgplKLG0AFtDz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On Monday 01 May 2006 10:50 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 30 April 2006 08:47 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: wu chuanwen wrote: 2006/4/30, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] that is (AFAIK) just a layer below TCP/IP. Wrong. Besides: just a layer below TCP/IP makes no sense. TCP/IP is a protocol family. Two of those members are IPv4 and IPv6. Now, what's just a layer below TCP/IP supposed to mean? I didn't know. I'm not a network programmer. I will be sometime when I get the time to read up on it all, but until then, it was just a educated guess. I wouldn't remove it if I were you. Why not? Why leave in things, which are not needed and which are known to possibly cause problems? For me the Why not? is the part that I can't answer. I don't know what it does, therefore I don't mess around with it. Furthermore, I have never heard of it causing problems. Try a blank Firefox profile. To create one, run firefox -ProfileManager. I don't see how that would help anything. It would help, if the problem is on his side, caused by bad settings in his profile. If everything's faster with a blank profile, he knows for sure, that the problems were caused by his old profile. I've never *ever* heard of a profile being corrupted. I'd be very surprised if that's the case. Nonetheless, it is a good idea, if a bit debatable in the likelihood it fixing the problem at hand. Alexander Skwar -- It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees. I'd beg to differ. pgpf46bNQ8RhF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On Monday 01 May 2006 11:03 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 01 May 2006 07:55 am, Justin Patrin wrote: On 4/30/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kesara Rathnayake wrote: (I hate HTML mailand I hate Outlook even more.) Outlook and Outlook Express are the two worst mail clients in the universe. They are not. Lotus Notes beats them to that. Ouch. You sure you want to be handing out a judgement of that magnitude like that? It'd take quite a bit to be worse than Outlook. They're too slow Not really. You must not have used them. I have. They are. End of story. and bloated to do anything, and they don't accept ANYTHING other than MS Exchange server Wrt. Outlook Express, that's plain wrong. And wrt. Outlook: It's wrong as well. Outlook CAN interface IMAP servers. But you'll lose all the benefits of Outlook in this case. I said that they can't interface with non-MS Exchange servers withour throwing a Royal Temper Tantrum. They do not like POP. They like IMAP even less. Plus, of all the HTML-sending mail clients, Outlook is the worst! It makes the biggest, most bloated HTML I've ever seen! pgpQY42Hi61Xf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 06:05 am, Tero Grundström wrote: On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, wu chuanwen wrote: Hi! Everybody! I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow?In my machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck and even can not scroll up and down.Many peple have the same situation.Do you think so? And how can you solve this problem? Well, I recently switched to the binary version and to my surprise I found that it is much faster than the self compiled version. Especially the interface is much more responsive in the binary version. I don't know how it could be. Makes me really wonder where else I'm loosing speed on Gentoo... How did you switch to a binary version? How did you do that? I didn't know you could use emerge and not compile it. Unless, of course, you aren't using emerge... pgp37rGKkxtr7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On Monday 01 May 2006 11:14 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 30 April 2006 11:21 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: Kesara Rathnayake wrote: I guess Firefox is slow now because of whole lot of Extentions that we used today. To find out, I asked OP to create a blank profile. I also assume a local problem at his side. OP should simply create a new profile and report back. Alexander Skwar PS: I begin to hate Googlemail because of the default to use HTML even if it is not required. Sucks. Big time. I used the GMail web interface for a long time and it defaulted to plain text for me. This might be correct. However on new accounts, HTML is used. If you don't believe me, simply create a new account, and you'll see. I'm not contending with you there. I actually signed up for GMail before they had HTML options, so I wouldn't really know for sure. I'll just take your word for it then. If I changed to rich-text the next time it'd default to RTF. No, it most certainly did not. Who accepts RTF? Not anyone I know of. I thought that it was in RTF though... It's still in the beta stage, you know. As if anything on Google is NOT in beta... Too true. Another thing that sucks, is that HTML mails are permitted on this list. Why not just dump the HTML part (and every other attachment)? Why not, Makes mails larger, without adding anything useful (normally). Further, it makes mails a bit harder to read and harder to quote. At this point I'm inclined to think you're using an inferior mail client. KMail works just fine with HTML. What are you using? eg. the mail which I quoted: In HTML, it's about 1179 bytes. In text/plain, it is 729 bytes. And actually, the HTML caused overhead is even more, as the 2nd MIME part (the HTML part) caused additional headers to be added. Those are an additional 378 bytes. Yah, I agree with you that it's unnecessarily wasting space to use HTML. That's why I don't use it. However, I don't think it's right or polite to start harrassing people for using it. if it irks you so much, make a script that will change RTF/HTML to Plaintext? That's not a useful advice. I'd have to accept the (normally) uselessly bloated mail first and then strip it. Makes no sense. No, you're not thinking! The mailing list server receives a email in HTML. Convert the HTML to plaintext. Then send, and store in the list archives (as plaintext). Sure, you wasted some bandwidth on receiving the HTML, but you're not making the problem worse by sending or storing the bloated form of it, either. It wouldn't be terribly difficult... Depends. On the skil of the programmer, of course. I'd take a while to do it because I'm a perfectionist, and because I'm still new to programming in general. I'd automatically turn it into a learning experience, which would make it take twice as long. However, for a established programmer who's learned the ways of the Source, it wouldn't be terribly difficult. Think: Just take all the tags out. Convert stuff like: /p br to a newline and you're done! It's just Presto! and the most basic of functionality is there. Then you can tack on stuff for special characters (lso; and stuff like that... it's been a while, so that's probably not a valid code, but you get the idea, right?) Just delete the junk like the html tags and stuff of that nature with plaintext doesn't need (or care about). It's really simple. Alexander Skwar -- We seldom repent talking too little, but very often talking too much. -- Jean de la Bruyere pgpaU2XTgqXaH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On Monday 01 May 2006 10:57 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 30 April 2006 05:59 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: wu chuanwen wrote: Not really. You most likely either have a faster machine Celeron M Notebook with 1.5 GHz. Not what I'd call fast :) And 768M ram. IBM X40 Type 2386-1CU 1.0GHz Intel Pentium-M Ultra-Low Voltage 256 MB PC 2700 SO-DIMM 200 Pin RAM (CA2.5) Intel Extreme Graphics 2 64MB shared Graphics Memory 20 GB 4700 RPM Hitachi-made IBM Microdrive Stunning 12.1 inch 1024x768 LCD screen great for movies ; ) One lonely little system speaker that tries to be a full media speaker but fails miserably. Try a blank Firefox profile. To create one, run firefox -ProfileManager. This is something like the third time you've suggested this. You counted? :) Not really. Please explain how this will help. I'm serious: I don't see how this could help. My assumption: Problem is caused by bad settings, which includes extensions or themes. If problem goes away with a new/blank profile, we know where the problem is. Yes, I'm just saying that it's highly unlikely that the profile is the problem. I've never heard of a profile causing a problem in my life. I could be wrong, but I'm still skeptical nonetheless. pgp4A1Og5aUfO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On Thursday 04 May 2006 04:42 am, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
On Thursday 04 May 2006 05:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 01 May 2006 11:51 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:18, Farhan Ahmed wrote:
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden
no, just no. This breaks enough stuff. Do not tell others to use it. If
you want to use it. Fine. But do not tell anybody else to do it.
Why I asked before doing. What is it?
it hiddes some symbols in libs. It can make startup a lot faster, but it
can also break a lot of things.
prelink is much saver ...
Okay... whatever that is. If this is going to destabilize my system I'm not
going to do it...
btw, I would emerge ufed and work down the list
I'll emerge it now, and ask you what on earth it is now as well.
ufed
use flag editor
Hah... I knew that! (not!)
When you start it, you see all useflags listed, if it is active (X before
its name), where it is set (the space in the brackets behind the name) and
the description of the flag. man ufed has the details ;)
So it's like make menuconfig in /usr/src/linux?
Just read the descriptions and decide.. easy.
If you are not sure about disabling something, leave it in the default
state.
Yup.
make an emerge --newuse --ask world after you have finished.
I'm not doing that again! Last time I tried that one night, all day
long, and it only did 38 of 283 packages or something. It was *horrible.*
Next time I try that, I'll totally exit KDE and do it 100% from the command
line so as to make sure every single last shred of memory is there to do it.
Even then, it'll be over a very long vacation.
However, I will start perfecting my setting now, so that when I update/install
new things they reflect changes to make the system faster!
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On Thursday 04 May 2006 05:27 pm, Walter Dnes wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 09:02:45PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote And I recommend that you do *not* set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 unless you are prepared for the consequences. WHAT CONSEQUENCES!? I've asked on multiple occassions for a comparison to a Debian paradigm. My first distro was Debian. So a comparison to Debian would do me a world of good. Gentoo ~x86 (or ~whatever) is roughly equivalant to a mix of Debian Testing and Unstable. A package may be ~ simply because it hasn't been tested enough yet to certify as stable. Or it may be horribly broken. Or somewhere in between. If you were comfortable running Debian unstable, you'll be comfortable running Gentoo ~x86. THANK YOU! That made quite a bit of sense to me. You have no idea how much sense that made to me, actually. pgpMxYyQNCmrH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 07:58 pm, Teresa and Dale wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Set up a Samba server... hmm... KDE Control Centre has a excellent interface for that. Very easy. In a related story... The first time I used Samba to do some network transfers I spent ten minutes checking file intergrity. It went so darn fast... I was sure something was wrong. No, it's just that windoze networking is so darn slow! It's now a pain to do anything windoze-to-windoze! Linux and Samba is so much faster! I tried the KDE setup but still no go. I think I need to change something in the Linksys router, I'm not sure what though. I think it is working on the Linux end. I can ping the windoze box from my Linux box but I don't know how to do anything on the windoze side. Pointers?? Windows XP? My Computer My Network Places or something like that. I swear, Windows has been so inconsistent over the years! I loved how networking was organized in 98SE, but in XP the only way to find the network neighbourhood area is through a back door in the network settings whatever... it's insane. Clueless. Almost as clueless here. pgpaItQnGVI0O.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 02:18 pm, Teresa and Dale wrote: Hi, OK, here's my deal. My girlfriend wants to use windoze, yes it has already died from a bug and it took a while to get it all back to working, again. This is what I want to do to make it easy when this happens again, this is windoze so it will happen, likely sooner rather than later too. I just make sure I don't do anything important on Windoze. Then if it dies... oh well, worse things can happen at sea. I want to be able to back her drive up to a CD, the whole thing even if it takes a few CDs. When it dies again, I want to be able to put in the first CD and it boot and reinstall everything from there with little interaction from me. Is there such a creature? Please tell me it is free. I'm used to Linux remember. IBM/Lenovo has this neat little Rapid Restore thing which does exactly that. I'm not sure it'll work on a non-IBM machine, but it's worth a try. I can't believe I let her spend almost $200.00 on that crappie OS. hangs head in shame She a great person in all other respects though. I just have to keep working on this area. Not everyone is a computer junkie ; ) Oh, I'm still looking for help with samba share so I can copy her documents and such to my rig, since mine seems to always work. :D Again, sorry to ask a windoze question here but it's not like I ask anywhere else. Set up a Samba server... hmm... KDE Control Centre has a excellent interface for that. Very easy. In a related story... The first time I used Samba to do some network transfers I spent ten minutes checking file intergrity. It went so darn fast... I was sure something was wrong. No, it's just that windoze networking is so darn slow! It's now a pain to do anything windoze-to-windoze! Linux and Samba is so much faster! pgpm1Ch0c3GSk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 09:34 am, Richard Fish wrote: On 5/1/06, Farhan Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you wish to have latest packages, change ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86, it might make your system a bit unstable but going through my experience it has not broken a thing in my system. And I recommend that you do *not* set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 unless you are prepared for the consequences. WHAT CONSEQUENCES!? I've asked on multiple occassions for a comparison to a Debian paradigm. My first distro was Debian. So a comparison to Debian would do me a world of good. It is very much a testing environment, where either the ebuild or the package itself might not be completely stable, or worse, incompatible with previous configuration files or other packages on your system. Baselayout and udev have been particularly 'dangerous' on ~x86 recently. Additionally, ~x86 updates more frequently than x86, so you will have much more downloading and compiling to do at each update. Yeah, I think I'll avoid that until I have a distcc network running! Compiling on my poor laptop takes *forever!* Yes ~x86 does work most of the time, and the Gentoo devs are extremely good at fixing problems quickly. But it can be expected to break occasionally, and you need to know what do when it does. Mean time to failure? If you want ~x86 for specific packages, use /etc/portage/package.keywords. Okay. pgpMBmiodwjw1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On Sunday 30 April 2006 01:11 pm, Jeff Rollin wrote: I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it improves the speed of KDE applications too So, can you please tell me how to do this? I'd really appreciate it. -- Argument against Linux number 6,033: ...So this is like most Linux viruses. You have to download the virus yourself, become root, install it and then run it. Seems like a lot of work just to experience what you can get on Windows with a lot less trouble. I shared something like this with a Apple junkie I know... it was a article about Viruses on WineX. He just said it proves how self-abusive Linux people are. pgpJ8KBHKNC4P.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On Sunday 30 April 2006 05:59 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: wu chuanwen wrote: Hi! Everybody! I think most of us are using firefox now .Do you think it's too slow? Yes. Not really. You most likely either have a faster machine or have already tweaked yours. In my machine,if i open 6 or more tabs in firefox,my firefox will be stuck and even can not scroll up and down. I can't scroll that well even with one window, and only one tab! Works fine here. Many peple have the same situation. I do. Haven't heard of. Do you think so? Yes. No, I don't. And how can you solve this problem? Try a blank Firefox profile. To create one, run firefox -ProfileManager. This is something like the third time you've suggested this. Please explain how this will help. I'm serious: I don't see how this could help. pgp7nZB1tKF2d.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On Sunday 30 April 2006 11:21 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: Kesara Rathnayake wrote: I guess Firefox is slow now because of whole lot of Extentions that we used today. To find out, I asked OP to create a blank profile. I also assume a local problem at his side. OP should simply create a new profile and report back. Alexander Skwar PS: I begin to hate Googlemail because of the default to use HTML even if it is not required. Sucks. Big time. I used the GMail web interface for a long time and it defaulted to plain text for me. If I changed to rich-text the next time it'd default to RTF. I changed it to plain-text and then it defaulted the next time to (you guessed it) plain text. I don't know what you're complaining about. Perhaps you tried it at a time when they hadn't yet corrected that bug? It's still in the beta stage, you know. Another thing that sucks, is that HTML mails are permitted on this list. Why not just dump the HTML part (and every other attachment)? Why not, if it irks you so much, make a script that will change RTF/HTML to Plaintext? It wouldn't be terribly difficult... Then you could just tack it on to the list daemon or whatever and viola! you'd be good to go! I'm sure some Perl/Python freak would make something to do that in about a week and be done with it. I'm more of a Java/C++ person, so it'd take me longer, unless you forced me to use PHP, which I could see myself using... pgp3aXDsNJlVO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On Sunday 30 April 2006 08:47 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: wu chuanwen wrote: 2006/4/30, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hm, those are not firefox USE flags. What do you get, when you run emerge -vpt mozilla-firefox I get this: [ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.2 [1.5.0.1-r4] USE=gnome ipv6 -debug -java -mozdevelop -xinerama -xprint 37 kB Do you really need ipv6? I doubt that this has anything to do with the problem at hand, but if you don't need it, you should remove it. If you don't know anything about ipv6, it's very probable that you don't need it. IPV6 is a protocol that is (AFAIK) just a layer below TCP/IP. I wouldn't remove it if I were you. To the others: Is ipv6 still one of the default flags? Has this bug still not been fixed? Have you yet tried a blank profile? What do you mean? As I wrote: Try a blank Firefox profile. To create one, run firefox -ProfileManager. I don't see how that would help anything. PS: Please no HTML. Makes your posts harder to read. Do you mean the link i gave in the mail before?Or another thing? I mean, that you compose your mails in gmail as HTML or rich text. This makes them bigger without adding any benefit to it - indeed, as you can see above, it makes it even worse, as there are no proper quote marks before the quoted text. Yes, it's very rude to send in anything other than plain-text. HTML is for web sites, not email. RTF is for dorks with nothing better to do other than format their text. There really isn't a need for it - if you have something to say that can't be expressed in plain-text, it's probably too forceful for public expression! Simply click on plain text. For GMail users that's just above the text area you write your messages in. Alexander Skwar -- Trespassers will be shot. Survivors will be prosecuted. The one I heard was Trespassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again. pgpl0Zcvk0tN8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On Sunday 30 April 2006 07:22 am, Jeff Rollin wrote: Oh, yeah. I couldn't understand why people raved about the speed of Gentoo till I added USE=-DG_DISABLE_DEBUG So, this is going to be a very elementary question, but it's honestly because I don't know. I have major problems with Firefox (and even Eclipse) acting very sluggishly. It's understandably annoying, but after using Windows for ten years, I've learned to just swallow a lot of garbage and forget about it. However, now that there's (possibly) a way to fix all this... I don't know about USE flags. I think I get that they're special compile-time preprocessor macros to enable/disable certain things, but I don't know how to use them, as in change them. If my apps all are compiled with debug extensions... that would explain why Gentoo is working (speed-wise) like Kubuntu and other Debian-based distros did. Well, I tried this: localhost ~ # emerge -vpt mozilla-firefox --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.keywords: app-crypt/gpg-agent-1.9.19 --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.keywords: dev-libs/libassuan-0.6.10 --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.keywords: dev-libs/libksba-0.9.12 --- Invalid atom in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: =dev-libs/libassuan-0.6.10 ~x86 --- Invalid atom in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: =dev-libs/libksba-0.9.12 ~x86 --- Invalid atom in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: =app-crypt/gpg-agent-1.9.19 ~x86 This part I'm worried about, but am not trying to fix right now. Any suggestions, though OT, would be nice. These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 [1.0.7-r4] -debug +gnome +ipv6 +java* -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznoxft -mozsvg +truetype -xinerama -xprint 32,135 kB I see here that I've got it compiled with the debug pointers (which I'm told slow things down) and it has no KDE/Qt support, either. This... could be a problem. First: I'd like to know where I can change the USE flags globally, such that all new activity will have no debug support, which I don't need. I'd also like to add KDE/Qt functionality, if that's possible on the global level as well. I know this is probably something I should have caught when I installed, but that was a while ago, and I didn't know what a USE flag was, so I left it at the default settings, not wanting to incur the Wrath of the Malconfigured OS. Second: How can I specifically re-build a package with changed USE flags? In other words, I'd like to rebuild a few things I use often and am having speed issues with, but not the whole system (just yet - I'll want a distcc network up before I attempt the whole system all at once, esp. on this little IBM X40...) Thanks for your time! Hope I'm not too annoying! And if there's any part of my Netiquette that isn't correct, tell me. I've only been an active mailing list user for about a year and a half now, so I'm still learning! pgpbORANokCWp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On Monday 01 May 2006 07:55 am, Justin Patrin wrote: On 4/30/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kesara Rathnayake wrote: PS: I begin to hate Googlemail because of the default to use HTML even if it is not required. Sucks. Big time. It may default to HTML now, as do Yahoo and Hotmail, but it's an easy thing to turn off. I'm still using gmail in text-only mode. It doesn't default to HTML. It defaults to RTF, and even then you can change that. (I hate HTML mailand I hate Outlook even more.) Outlook and Outlook Express are the two worst mail clients in the universe. They're too slow and bloated to do anything, and they don't accept ANYTHING other than MS Exchange server without throwing a Royal Temper Tantrum. pgpRAfmNePHbn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
On Monday 01 May 2006 04:32 pm, Farhan Ahmed wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(snip)
These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 [1.0.7-r4] -debug
+gnome
+ipv6 +java* -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznoxft -mozsvg +truetype
-xinerama -xprint 32,135 kB
I see here that I've got it compiled with the debug pointers (which I'm
told slow things down) and it has no KDE/Qt support, either. This...
could be a problem.
-debug means you don't have debug pointers.. A use flag can be considered
as a configure option.. -debug means --disable-debug, +gnome means
--enable-gnome... What -debug does is it disables debugging, i.e., it
strips the binary of debugging symbols.. +flags enables support for the
feature.. To have a look at all the USE flag and what they do take a
look at /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc and
/usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc
Okay, that makes a lot of sense. That's something I didn't know.
So I went through all those different USE flags, and added ones I knew I could
add without anything blowing up. This is what I get:
# These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically
built this stage
# Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example
#CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe
CFLAGS=-march=i686 -O2 -pipe
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
MAKEOPTS=
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=
USE= X a52 aac alsa apache2 acpi arts audiofile avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2
cdr cli crypt ctype cups dba eds directfb doc dri dvd dvdread elibc_glibc
emboss encode esd ethereal exif expat fam fastbuild foomaticdb
force-cgi-redirect fortran ftp gd gcj gdbm gif glut gmp gnome gpm gstreamer
gtk gtk2 gtkhtml guile hal hardened idn imlib ipv6 jpeg java javascript kde
kdexdeltas kernel_linux lcms libg++ libwww mad memlimit mikmod mhash mng
motif mozilla mime mmx mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl ogg opengl oss pam pcre
pdflib perl png posix python qt quicktime readline samba sdl session
simplexml slang soap sockets spell spl ssl sse sse2 svg tcltk tcpd tiff
tokenizer truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts usb udev userland_GNU vorbis
x86 xml xml2 xmms xsl xv zlib
FEATURES=
If anyone has any suggestions to further fine-tune this for a Pentium-M 1.0
GHz Ultra-Low Voltage chip, please tell me.
First:
I'd like to know where I can change the USE flags globally, such that all
new activity will have no debug support, which I don't need. I'd also
like to add KDE/Qt functionality, if that's possible on the global level
as well. (snip)
Well add the following line to /etc/make.conf
USE=kde qt
I do believe that kde, qt and -debug are in make.defaults.. Atleast in
x86 profiles they are, so i don't think you need to add the USE=kde qt
line to /etc/make.conf as they are enabled by default
I looked and they were already there. However, MMX, SSE and SSE2 were not
enabled, so I enabled those.
How can I specifically re-build a package with changed USE flags? (snip)
emerge --newuse --update --deep world
I'll try that just a little later, when I can leave my laptop without needing
to use it for anything, so that it can happily chew away at everything
without my needing to lag through other things.
Hope this helps,
It did! Thanks a bunch. I'm going to have fun tweaking my system for maximum
performance (one of my favorite passtimes while coding, I have to admit) with
these new options open to me!
Farhan Ahmed
PS: For more info about portage and USE flags, check the Gentoo
documentation,
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2
read all the sections, they contain valuable info..
I'll put them on my to-read list. Right now I've got to go hunting through
MSDN for some junk on Visual C/C++/C#, for work. I don't normally go to MSDN
of my own accord, other than to check up on them and make sure they're still
there making millions of people angry.
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Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG Trouble - Found Problem, Need Solution
More news: I successfully got GnuPG 1.9 installed, and then a new problem arose. Configuration. I went to http://kmail.kde.org/kmail-pgpmime-howto.html#gnupg and followed the instructions to the best of my ability, and yet I still get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/.gnupg $ eval $(gpg-agent --daemon) gpg-agent[10716]: /home/lsauron/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf:1: invalid option so, ~lsauron/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf looks like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat ~lsauron/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf gpg-agent /usr/bin/gpg-agent no-grab default-cache-ttl 1800 I'm totally stumped. I didn't find anything in /usr/local/bin like kmail.kde.org said, however, /usr/bin/gpg-agent is really odd in that it's not actually there (I don't think - I can't cd to it): [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cd /usr/bin [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin $ ls | find gpg-agent gpg-agent [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin $ cd gpg-agent bash: cd: gpg-agent: Not a directory I'm rather confused. Any help? I know I did something wrong, but I'm too close to the solution to even entertain the thought of giving up! Oh, and the dialog that prompted for gnupg 1.9, it now says that it detected the install but gpg-agent isn't running. That's why I'm happy - I'm very very close to getting this thing to work! pgpeKcAnjqOUB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG Trouble - Found Problem, Need Solution
On Tuesday 25 April 2006 08:16 am, Daniel da Veiga wrote: On 4/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More news: I successfully got GnuPG 1.9 installed, and then a new problem arose. Configuration. I went to http://kmail.kde.org/kmail-pgpmime-howto.html#gnupg and followed the instructions to the best of my ability, and yet I still get this: Following instructions means also changing some parameters to meet your system specific needs. That means that if you go and type everything on a tutorial without understanding it, you'll probably issue an rm -rf /* because a malicious online tutorial told you to. Even I'm not quite that dumb ; ) I'm a webmaster with PHP5, I would know about the little rm -r thing. People like to slip ; rm -rf / into web forms in hopes the input somewhere goes through a bash shell. In that event your server will commit suicide on all drives currently mounted. That's why we use special input strippers which yank such things as the semicolon out of the input to foil the plot. Now, let's see, you're using GENTOO, and need help with GNUPG, Googling gentoo gnupg brings, voilá: Well, after not finding anything about gpg in /usr/local/bin, I thought I'd try /usr/bin. It was a good attempt. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnupg-user.xml [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/.gnupg $ eval $(gpg-agent --daemon) gpg-agent[10716]: /home/lsauron/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf:1: invalid option So, it reads the first line and don't understand it, so, the line is WRONG for some reason. I gathered that much. so, ~lsauron/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf looks like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat ~lsauron/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf gpg-agent /usr/bin/gpg-agent Ahm, so its wrong because it is NOT a configuration option, rather a call for the file that should read and interpret it, who the heck wrote this config file?! It was adapted from www.kmail.kde.org, so I sort of trusted them a bit. Not too far (since they were using a very put your path here thing and I made a guess at the path and was wrong - end of story). Remove this line, PLEASE. I tried and it worked. No clue why I'll investigate later. Thanks. I wouldn't have figured out about deleting the line on my own (I don't often kill things and then see if the thing works, rather I try and mangle it until it does. It's just my method of approaching a problem). pgp3kQnY1Rlve.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What's broken with portage now?
On Monday 24 April 2006 05:01 am, Mick wrote: On 23/04/06, Glenn Enright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 24 April 2006 9:11 am, Mick wrote: If I were to delete something it has to be the lot. Which directory am I supposed to rm? Before you do that try emerge metadata or emerge sync Thanks guys. Emerge metadata creates multiple errors (here's an extract): = Failed cache update: dev-libs/gmime-2.1.14-r1 Corruption detected when reading key 'gmime-2.1.14-r1': dictionary update sequence element #0 has length 1; 2 is required Failed cache update: dev-libs/gmime-2.1.9-r3 Corruption detected when reading key 'gmime-2.1.9-r3': dictionary update sequence element #0 has length 1; 2 is required = What now? Shall I delete /var/cache/edb/dep/usr/portage, or some other file/directory too? Because I said I think it might (major emphasis on might) help is no reason to start deleting things. DO NOT delete anything without knowing what you're doing. I just said I thought it might force a rebuild-from-scratch of the cache, however, I have really no idea. If I built the software, that's what'd happen, but I didn't so that's where it is. I said it mainly in hopes that it might help someone more knowledgeable come to a real solution. If you still want to delete it, just let me ask you one thing: is this a toy, or a critical machine? Is this your linux box that works as a learning environment, or is this thing really part of a system that needs to be on? If it's just your playground, back everything important (of YOUR data, not OS settings and crap like that) to another computer and delete to your hearts content. You will most likely learn something. If you're like me, and really depend on the system, don't try such a step. pgpBes4Y5hFyB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG Trouble - Found Problem, Need Solution
On Sunday 23 April 2006 10:39 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Download version 1.9 from GnuPG's website and install it. GnuPG 1.9 is in ~x86. If you add it to your keywords file, you'll get it. Where is my keywords file? I'm still extremely new to portage in general. I find it curious that such a problem is living in current source repository for Gentoo. What problem? That without editing stuff (like the keywords file) KMail's GnuPG encryption won't work because of a broken (but not listed, since it's not 100% critical to program functioning) dependency. It's the sort of thing that I can understand, but don't think that it should have snuk through a milestone release like that. I'm positive this isn't intentional, but at very least I'd like to know if anything's being done to fix it. Fix what? See the above. Laura's Law: No child throws up in the bathroom. I did. pgpzbSCPcYZa8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG Trouble - Found Problem, Need Solution
On Monday 24 April 2006 02:42 pm, Abhay Kedia wrote: On Sunday 23 April 2006 11:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: through KGPG. The problem is that the GnuPG agent in the x86 area is version 1.4.2.2, yet KMail demands verison 1.9 The main problem is that gpg-agent has been Package Masked in favour of gnupg-1.9.20-r1. So KMail demands next best alternative i.e. the keyword masked gnupg-1.9.20. Just add it to your package.keywords and install it. It is not causing any problems :) Call me stringent or just plain old a software Nazi, but for me if it doesn't work out-of-the-box something more needs to be done. Well, don't always listen to me on these things... my development group has a motto: Nothing less than perfection. I don't like ultra-configuring things, though I don't mind it personally. However, to remain marketable, you do have to make sure that there is a way to do things without sending your user through a massive quest for the Holy Grail to make their email client work! I'm not mad, just rather surprised (I wasn't expecting something like this). Guess I've been spoiled by Debian's (horrifyingly stale) Stable distro. You find new stuff there about once every heavenly visitation, whether you need it or not. ; ) pgpboye2fwasm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG Trouble - Found Problem, Need Solution
On Sunday 23 April 2006 02:17 pm, Mick wrote: On 23/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been trying to find why I am unable to use GnuPG-agent to sign my messages in KMail, and rather have to type in a password in all the time through KGPG. The problem is that the GnuPG agent in the x86 area is version 1.4.2.2, yet KMail demands verison 1.9 I don't think it wise to change to ~x86, yet I still would like to use GnuPG's agent. I think my options are as such: 1) Download version 1.9 from GnuPG's website and install it. Why haven't I done this? I don't know how to install something in Gentoo without it being as simple as emerge. I don't know how to install from a file on the hard drive. 2) Forget KMail and signing my messages and go back to GMail. 3) Continue typing in my password every time I send a email. 4) Hack my way through some older versions of KMail and rip out the demand for a new version of GnuPG and replace it with the older part of KMail that could work with 1.4. Not a fun idea, 'cause I want to go do other things. I find it curious that such a problem is living in current source repository for Gentoo. I'm positive this isn't intentional, but at very least I'd like to know if anything's being done to fix it. Plus, if GnuPG 1.9 is so experimental, then how can KMail need 1.9? It makes no sense to me... I've added 1.9 in /etc/portage/package.keywords like so: == =app-crypt/gpg-agent-1.9.19 ~x86 =dev-libs/libksba-0.9.12 ~x86 =dev-libs/libassuan-0.6.10 ~x86 == and emerged gpg-agent. I think that would be the easiest way to achieve what you want. So I did some hunting and somewhat successfully fixed it. However, it now gives me this output which I think could become problematic in the future: --- Invalid atom in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: =dev-libs/libassuan-0.6.10 ~x86 --- Invalid atom in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: =dev-libs/libksba-0.9.12 ~x86 --- Invalid atom in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: =app-crypt/gpg-agent-1.9.19 ~x86 This isn't good. It's emerging the stuff now, but I want to get rid of this (the right way, not the it's-still-broken-but-we're-pretending-it's-not way). Anyone know what I did wrong? pgpn23bjHm5Fv.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] GnuPG Trouble - Found Problem, Need Solution
I've been trying to find why I am unable to use GnuPG-agent to sign my messages in KMail, and rather have to type in a password in all the time through KGPG. The problem is that the GnuPG agent in the x86 area is version 1.4.2.2, yet KMail demands verison 1.9 I don't think it wise to change to ~x86, yet I still would like to use GnuPG's agent. I think my options are as such: 1) Download version 1.9 from GnuPG's website and install it. Why haven't I done this? I don't know how to install something in Gentoo without it being as simple as emerge. I don't know how to install from a file on the hard drive. 2) Forget KMail and signing my messages and go back to GMail. 3) Continue typing in my password every time I send a email. 4) Hack my way through some older versions of KMail and rip out the demand for a new version of GnuPG and replace it with the older part of KMail that could work with 1.4. Not a fun idea, 'cause I want to go do other things. I find it curious that such a problem is living in current source repository for Gentoo. I'm positive this isn't intentional, but at very least I'd like to know if anything's being done to fix it. Plus, if GnuPG 1.9 is so experimental, then how can KMail need 1.9? It makes no sense to me... Thanks for your help! pgp2kv7LsnBs8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What's broken with portage now?
On Sunday 23 April 2006 01:08 pm, Mick wrote: On 23/04/06, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I run eix-sync instead. I just ran it with no problems here. Hope this helps, Mark Sorry, I should have said, I ran eix-sync -v first and after a little while I also tried to run emerge --sync. I got the same errors on both occasions. Just tried again for a third time now with the same result! What do such errors indicate: = Failed cache update: gnome-extra/zenity-2.10.1 Corruption detected when reading key 'zenity-2.10.1': dictionary update sequence element #0 has length 1; 2 is required Failed cache update: gnome-extra/zenity-2.14.0 Corruption detected when reading key 'zenity-2.14.0': dictionary update sequence element #0 has length 1; 2 is required = I've got my portage on an xfs partition on this laptop . . . could it be related to this? To me that doesn't look like filesystem stuff. I think something murdered your portage cache. I'd try and axe the whole thing (if possible) and rebuild it all. Could take a long time, but it could work. Also, if those two packages aren't installed right now, it looks like all it's complaining about is the absence of one line. You could possibly find a way to hand-write the missing data, and see if that shuts it up. I'm no expert, but that's my first impression. pgpBwKeBVTcP8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] kgpg error with gpg-agent
On Monday 17 April 2006 02:52 pm, Mike Williams wrote:
On Monday 17 April 2006 18:26, Mick wrote:
I seem to have something wrong with the gpg-agent setup on by box.
First of all gpg-agent does not start automatically despite the fact
that I have added eval $(gpg-agent --daemon) in my ~/.xsession file.
gimli ~ # egrep -i gpg.agent /usr/kde/3.5/{env,shutdown}/*
/usr/kde/3.5/env/agent-startup.sh:# Uncomment the following lines to start
gpg-agent /usr/kde/3.5/env/agent-startup.sh:if [ -x /usr/bin/gpg-agent ];
then /usr/kde/3.5/env/agent-startup.sh: eval $(/usr/bin/gpg-agent
--daemon) /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown/agent-shutdown.sh:if [ -n
${GPG_AGENT_INFO} ]; then /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown/agent-shutdown.sh: kill
$(echo ${GPG_AGENT_INFO} | cut -d':' -f 2) /dev/null 21
Thank you! That made sense. (surprisingly)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how to setup sun-jdk
On Saturday 15 April 2006 11:30 pm, wu chuanwen wrote: The package dose not mention it's Multi-language package or not.The name of package is Linux self-extracting file.And i notice that the package for Windows mentions that it's Multi-language package. Does it matter if it'a Multi-language or not? Yes. In a situation like this, Java can be amazingly picky over not just which JDK but such nonsense as lanugage packs, c. I left Java about a year ago to this day because it was totally barf-disgusting gross (like my Mormon swearing ; ) Then I qualify for AP Computer Science (yay!) and have to use Java again : \ Get the precise name of the JDK that you need, then do this little trick in Google: site:http://java.sun.com/ [the EXACT file you need] That should find what you want out of Sun's bloated archives of Java-garbage. And, just b/c I'm having fun making fun of Java, I have to quote a very good friend of mine on the subject: Java should stick to the miserable server apps it was designed for. --Seth Willits pgpJ1mVAa8b20.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] X11 + framebuffer - does it work?
On Saturday 15 April 2006 07:55 pm, Richard Fish wrote: On 4/15/06, Rohit and Bhavana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there anyone on the list who has the following configured on their workstations? * bootsplash giving them a nice picture at the startup [ in runlevel boot] I do that on my laptop. IBM X40 Type 2386-1CU with some weird Intel Extreme Graphics II chip I've never previously heard of and honestly don't want to see again (it really sucks - the X40's wonderfully light though, I'd reccommend it any day! Works perfectly with Linux, too!) * bootsplash giving them a nice picture later [ in runlevel default] You mean like the livecd-2006.0 theme? Where it has pretty framebuffer graphics and puts console at 1024x768 (a must-have, IMHO) but then has a picturized boot process? Yeah, I do that. Then by whacking F2 I can go back to the verbose process but still with the pretty graphics. The info you need is in http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash (as reccommended to me by Bo Andresen). * Then X11 starting on their nvidia card configured with xf86 or xorg with X working in default runlevel On my server I'm working to get spash working with an nVidia card. The problems aren't from the nVidia card, however, but rather from Genkernel, which I find totally inferior to make in every way (why do I need to recompile the whole kernel every time? I know, I've been spoiled by only compiling what's changed). * Switching back to consol with control-alt-F[n] and being able to work without locking up your box - and without framebuffer corruption. Never had a problem here. When I kill X11 and KDM for a console login, it goes back to the beautified console, but sacrificing no functionality that I know of. I have all of this working on my Dell e1705 laptop. Significant details: 2.6.15-suspend2-r8 [ebuild R ] media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.8756 0 kB [ebuild R ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.2-r3 USE=dri -debug -ipv6 -minimal -xprint 0 kB Also I use the vesafb-tng framebuffer driver. If yes, then if you know anyone has everything working, I would be obliged to note the version numbers etc and any pointers. - not being clear about difference between gensplash and bootsplash [they seem to serve the same purpose] which one should I use on my system. Should I emerge one, or both or one of them and themes for both? I used splashutils with great success. I can't comment about any others though - I've never tried them. I would suggest not dealing with bootsplash issues at this point, and work on getting a stable framebuffer working. Once you have that, the bootsplash side of things is pretty straight-forward. I'd reccommend that Wiki. I walked through it and came out alive, and with linux looking artful enough to shut up all the Windoze zealots that I am burdened to come into contact with. pgpmSVn1TPJfs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how to setup sun-jdk
On Sunday 16 April 2006 08:51 pm, wu chuanwen wrote: Oh,God!Now i know the problem.My usbdisk is broken.So the file every time i read from it is corrucpted althougth the file i download is OK. Hah! That's really funny! I remeber once I burned out a SD Card since I was using the same addresses over and over (compiling some Java stuff). I figured out that SD Cards aren't invulnerable - the hard way. That was some good data I lost... I'm so sorry that i have such a silly problem Not at all. Trust me, there's not much else that goes on in my life other than programming... I should take up a sport either badmitton or cricket, more likely than not it'll be badmitton. I hear the rule book for cricket is ~2x longer than the Bible (KJV - can't speak for others). Anyways, glad you got it working. Just out of curiosity, what were you working on in Java? pgpJv8rhflHvI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] kgpg error with gpg-agent
On Monday 17 April 2006 10:26 am, Mick wrote: Hi All, I seem to have something wrong with the gpg-agent setup on by box. First of all gpg-agent does not start automatically despite the fact that I have added eval $(gpg-agent --daemon) in my ~/.xsession file. I'm having a similar problem, though I never got as far as to try and modify .xsession. Never mind, I start it by hand from a terminal. Still, when I launch kgpg I get this error: == The use of GnuPG Agent is enabled in GnuPG's configuration file (/home/michael/.gnupg/gpg.conf). However, the agent does not seem to be running. This could result in problems with signing/decryption. Please disable GnuPG Agent from KGpg settings, or fix the agent. == The agent is running as demon according to top: == 12411 michael 16 0 2208 424 264 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.01 gpg-agent --daemon == What gives? How can I fix this problem so that the agent starts automatically with XDM (I am not using KDM, but fluxbox) and when I start kgpg then it recognises that gpg-agent is running? Same here. Help would be nice. pgpteRd4AzsEi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] I'd really like to stay with you
On Friday 14 April 2006 02:11 pm, Franta wrote: ... but THIS is impossible major snip hope I've copied it right ... then goes the REALLY upgrade .. All of X blocks all and everything of X. That's really amazing. That's what I ever wanted Linux to be!!! Thank you GGEENNTTOO team !()! Thank them for what? Screwing up the ~x86 area? Hello! Earth to Franta! IT'S BETA SOFTWARE! NO GUARANTEE!!! If you don't want problems, then stick with -x86. Honestly, you sound like some politician whining when the first rocket failed during the space race. It's not *supposed* to work. It WAS great, but it really isn't for usage. Well, I could say: THAT'S UNUSABLE. If you want something that's useable, even in the unsupported software area, I don't think you'll find any distro that can help you. I can understand if you think that the stable listings are a bit stale. I'm still waiting for my two personal favourite programs to be declared safe (YaKuake and Katapult) but I'm not willing to suffer the big massive upgrade headache over it. Calm down. You're overracting. Furthermore, of all linux distros I've ever had experience with, Gentoo is NOT for ease-of-use, but rather for the power user that knows what he (or she) is doing. If you can't swim then get out of the deep end of the pool. Go find something safer like Kubuntu or Debian, learn your Linux concepts there, then migrate to the more challenging (but, IMHO, more rewarding) Gentoo. That's what I did. I used Kubuntu and Debian for six months until I felt ready for Gentoo (and they built a graphical installer - I'm averse to installation manuals that are over thirty pages ; ) No one's (to my knowledge) asking you to use Gentoo. I don't see why you (apparently) feel so scandalized. Calm down. pgpPSzlmxoqeb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Now Signing Messages
On Friday 14 April 2006 12:13 pm, Rumen Yotov wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did some homework, did some Google searches, and figured out how to sign my email with Kgpg. I configured KMail, during which I came to the conclusion that spamassassin needs to be left serverside - importing ~8,000 messages from GMail while spamassassin tried to scan them all was an absolute nightmare which ultimately involved emerge --unmerge spamassassin. Anyways, since it's totally impractical to try and get all of you people to a formal key signing, I'm hoping you'll take my word for this and trust that this key which I sign my message with now is THE key I intend to use for as long as I can get away with. Hopefully this will help with that total nut case who was impersonating my email! Just a follow-up on that guy. I think that he's a spammer, testing his capability at phishing by spoofing off of other people's domains and their email. My best guess is that he picked me as a target, since I am a rather salient participant in many mailing lists, just to make sure he could properly spoof off of other domains, thus allowing him to do more sinister things than try and make me to a double-take when I find something that looks like I emailed it to myself in my inbox! Thanks for your patience in this matter, and I hope that we can all continue to work towards a web where we don't need spamassassin or gpg. I know I am. Hi, Why not use a keyserver to keep your key, there are enough of them ;) GnuPG can be setup to use one or more keyservers (same for Kmail,TB,Evo) Plus configure it the auto-fetch new/unknown keys, then forget about it. HTH.Rumen I did. However, I sent the key anyway so that you don't have to go hunting for which keyservers I was able to use. Some of them didn't work. I'll re-try later, but right now there's a few (about two or three - I don't remember exactly) servers which I wasn't able to upload to. The important thing is that I think I got through the process correctly. If I missed something please tell me. pgpDXPbR5n5WJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Now Signing Messages
On Friday 14 April 2006 02:36 pm, Ralph Slooten wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did. However, I sent the key anyway so that you don't have to go hunting for which keyservers I was able to use. Some of them didn't work. I'll re-try later, but right now there's a few (about two or three - I don't remember exactly) servers which I wasn't able to upload to. The important thing is that I think I got through the process correctly. If I missed something please tell me. Signature is fine (imported automatically here), and don't worry about the key servers, most of them sync with eachother ;-) Oh, that's really cool. However, while searching for Rumen's key, I didn't find it on most of the keyservers. Is this just because they only syncronise once a month or so, or is the key new, or were the keyservers just not syncing between the ones I tried first? pgpFdWqkxIEbi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Now Signing Messages
On Friday 14 April 2006 01:45 pm, Teresa and Dale wrote: Ralph Slooten wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did. However, I sent the key anyway so that you don't have to go hunting for which keyservers I was able to use. Some of them didn't work. I'll re-try later, but right now there's a few (about two or three - I don't remember exactly) servers which I wasn't able to upload to. The important thing is that I think I got through the process correctly. If I missed something please tell me. Signature is fine (imported automatically here), and don't worry about the key servers, most of them sync with eachother ;-) I tried to set mine up but couldn't get anywhere with it. Then I moved and changed email addresses anyway so I have no clue where to start. Well, I use KMail, which is nice. I first installed KGPG, which works to encrypt and sign messages and files. Create a key there. Then KMail pretty much works next to KGPG really well. Upload your key a few keyservers via right clicking on the KGPG icon in the system tray. This is assuming you use KDE, though. I don't know how to do it in Gnome. All that said, where is that guide you were using?? I need one if I am going to set this up for mine too. As far as the reference I used, it was for how to organise a keysigning party. It still has a great deal of relevant information though. http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/gpg-party.html I also found http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/gpg-party.html#ss5.1 very useful. I didn't read it all the way through, so I don't know how much more info it has that I don't know about. Enjoy! Thanks No problem. I just hope they can start integrating this stuff into GMail, so that when I'm not using my laptop and rather using GMail's excellent web interface I can enjoy the same key signing as I do here. The really cool thing about all this is that when I used Windows and (GASP) Outlook (not for long - I couldn't stand its overpowering bloatedness) the only way to sign or encrypt was with a key issued from some massive corporation or the Post Office. $15. I didn't need it that bad, so I didn't get it. Here, with the GPG stuff, it's free! This is so cool... If I'm ever able I'll try hosting a keyserver too, though that'll happen only when I have the raw bandwidth to do so : ( pgpI4Bh2zcPPs.pgp Description: PGP signature
