[gentoo-user] Re: mtp cannot create directories on SD card on cellphone

2024-05-16 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2024-05-16, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 03:06:50PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote >> >> Have you checked that the directory where you are attempting to >> do this is one that your account owns? I generally have to su - to >> root, create a directory at the top level, change it so

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-16 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2024-05-16, Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 16 May 2024 01:10:32 BST k...@aspodata.se wrote: >> Wol: >> > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> > > I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. 🙂 Anyway, I >> > > never let it near my systems. >> > >> > I liked lilo. And

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-16 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 16 May 2024 01:10:32 BST k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Wol: > > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. 🙂 Anyway, I > > > never let it near my systems. > > > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > ... > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread karl
Wol: > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. 🙂 Anyway, I > > never let > > it near my systems. > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( ... Still available and still working on non-uefi setups:

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

2024-05-15 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2024-05-15, Michael wrote: > > There are 3 'cliboards', known as selections, I know of: > > 1. Primary - you select some text by holding down your left mouse button (or > Shift+arrow) and you paste it with your middle button (or Shift+Insert - > depending on application). > > 2. Secondary -

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Wols Lists wrote: > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur.  Anyway, I never let >> it near my systems. > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > Grub isn't that bad - it's just that insists on trying to do

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur.  Anyway, I never let it near my systems. I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( Grub isn't that bad - it's just that insists on trying to do everything itself - and if you've got at all a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.

2024-05-15 Thread Matt Connell
On Wed, 2024-05-15 at 16:25 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > You'll need kernel 5.18 and Mesa 22 plus recent firmware. > > That article was almost 2 years old, so I'd be surprised if all those > are not stable in Gentoo by now. Mesa 22 is not. Only version 24 is stable :)

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Michael wrote: > On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 15:37:22 BST Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-05-15, Michael wrote: > >> > The Clipboard may be stored in RAM or cache of any applications >> > which use this method. >> >> AFAICT, the clipboard contents is stored in the X server. When

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

2024-05-15 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 15:37:22 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-15, Michael wrote: > > The Clipboard may be stored in RAM or cache of any applications > > which use this method. > > AFAICT, the clipboard contents is stored in the X server. When you > cut/copy something, the application

[gentoo-user] Re: Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > But in the doc on wiki.gentoo.org, I can't find any mention of inbuilt > graphics; all references are to graphics _cards_. Does Gentoo support > my intended processor's graphics, Technically, no. Gentoo doesn't. However, the Linux kernel, Xorg, and Mesa

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Michael wrote: > As far as I know the Primary selection is not stored anywhere - > other than within the application's memory space where the range of > characters have been selected. The xserver will call for this when > you middle click to paste it on another application's

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Dale wrote: >> Or just select some empty space in an application, to overwrite your >> previous >> selection. > > Well, since it works, something is acting as a clipboard. It's part of the X server. Same for the two selections. > It doesn't seem to be xclip in my case. 

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Dale wrote: > I thought that too.  I highlighted some text in a Konsole and then > looked in the KDE clipboard, what I highlighted was not there.  > > It wasn't there after I pasted it either.  It goes to a clipboard > somewhere but it appears it only remembers one entry then

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 08:42:14 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 02/05/2024 11:46, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > When I started using Linux, the received wisdom was to keep a separate > > /boot, and leave it unmounted during normal operation. The idea was that > > a successful hacker would not,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 02/05/2024 11:46, Peter Humphrey wrote: When I started using Linux, the received wisdom was to keep a separate /boot, and leave it unmounted during normal operation. The idea was that a successful hacker would not, supposedly, be able to corrupt the kernel ready for a reboot into their

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 02/05/2024 10:35, Michael wrote: Besides the automation this feature affords, I find it useful to know what a partition contains without having to mount it. On GPT labelled disks I make use both of the Partition Type UUID and the Partition Name. A quick glance at the gdisk output and if

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:45:29 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > OK, so 'boot' is for the Linux /boot directory. I was just curious > > since I had never used one. When I started using Linux, the received wisdom was to keep a separate /boot, and leave it unmounted during normal

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-02 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:45:29 BST Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: Grant Edwards wrote: > The partition type code for 'swap' is wrong -- it should be > 8200. According to the gdisk help info Linux /home is supposed to be >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-02 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:45:29 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > >> Grant Edwards wrote: > >>> The partition type code for 'swap' is wrong -- it should be > >>> 8200. According to the gdisk help info Linux /home is supposed to be > >>> 8302, but I've always

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >> >>> The partition type code for 'swap' is wrong -- it should be >>> 8200. According to the gdisk help info Linux /home is supposed to be >>> 8302, but I've always used the same generic "Linux filesystem" type >>> for

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> The partition type code for 'swap' is wrong -- it should be >> 8200. According to the gdisk help info Linux /home is supposed to be >> 8302, but I've always used the same generic "Linux filesystem" type >> for both /home and root. >> >> Is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > >> OK.  One last update in case someone googles and runs up on this >> thread.  I'm using gdisk to display this, because I think it will do >> better in email.  If I use cgdisk, it is wider and will wrap more.  >> This is what the partition

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > OK.  One last update in case someone googles and runs up on this > thread.  I'm using gdisk to display this, because I think it will do > better in email.  If I use cgdisk, it is wider and will wrap more.  > This is what the partition table looks like for GPT, old

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > One last update.  I found a video.  They were using gdisk but the > crucial part, he got it to display the partition layout.  It was like I > described as for as the alignment thing, tiny partition with ef02 and > then carry on as usual from there.  > > I need to do this on a disk

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Wol
On 28/04/2024 17:40, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. That empty space does not exist when using GPT disk label. When using a GPT

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: >> On Sunday, 28 April 2024 19:39:16 BST Dale wrote: >>> Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector > and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 28 April 2024 19:39:16 BST Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. That empty

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 28 April 2024 19:39:16 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector > >> and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. > >> That empty space does not exist

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector >> and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. >> That empty space does not exist when using GPT disk label. When using >> a GPT disk label,

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector > and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. > That empty space does not exist when using GPT disk label. When using > a GPT disk label, Grub requires that you need

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-27, Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:53:25 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I'm installing Gentoo on another old box. To be consistent I like >> to use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my >> drives, regardless of size. > > GPT is the partition table

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-17, Dale wrote: > >> I still use Nvidia and use nvidia drivers.  I to run into problems >> on occasion with drivers and kernels.  When you switched from >> Nvidia, what did you switch too? Do you still use drivers you >> install or kernel drivers? > All in-tree

[gentoo-user] Re: NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> If you don't play games, then definitely get integrated graphics. >> Even if the CPU costs a tiny bit more, it will give you a free empty >> 16x PCIe slot at whatever speed the CPU supports (v5 in this case - >> which is as good as you can get right

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dale wrote: > I still use Nvidia and use nvidia drivers.  I to run into problems > on occasion with drivers and kernels.  When you switched from > Nvidia, what did you switch too? Do you still use drivers you > install or kernel drivers? All in-tree kernel drivers for integrated

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > > 2) Lack of support for old hardware when running a newer kernels. > > I used to run into this when running nvidia-drivers. > Gentoo-sources would mark a new kernel stable, but my video board > would not be supported by nvidia-drivers versions that were >

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Wednesday, 2024-04-17 14:11:21 -, you wrote: > >> ... >> If what you want is access to all upstream longeterm kernel versions, >> then you should be using sys-kernel/vanilla-sources. > > I was not aware of this package. Excatly what

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Wols Lists
On 17/04/2024 10:10, Michael wrote: I am not sure the assumption "... aging hardware possibly can less and less cope with newer and newer kernels" is correct. As already mentioned newer kernels have both security and bug fixes. As long as you stick with stable gentoo-sources you'll have these

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Grant, On Wednesday, 2024-04-17 14:11:21 -, you wrote: > ... > If what you want is access to all upstream longeterm kernel versions, > then you should be using sys-kernel/vanilla-sources. I was not aware of this package. Excatly what could come in handy, if everything else fails. Thank

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Michael, On Wednesday, 2024-04-17 10:10:56 +0100, you wrote: > On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:26:25 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-04-16, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > ... > > > But, to get back to the beginning of this discussion: if there is a > > > risk that my aging hardware possibly can

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote: > >> ... >> That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm" >> kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm" >> kernel versions from kernel.org are

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Michael wrote: >> > But, to get back to the beginning of this discussion: if there is a >> > risk that my aging hardware possibly can less and less cope with >> > newer and newer kernels, should I put something like >> > >> >>=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-6.7.0 >> > >> > into

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 17 April 2024 11:37:04 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote: > > ... > > That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm" > > kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm" > > kernel versions

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Grant, On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote: > ... > That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm" > kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm" > kernel versions from kernel.org are available as "stable" in > gentoo-sources. > > It is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:26:25 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-16, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > Arve, > > > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 15:53:48 +0200, you wrote: > >> ... > >> Only LTS kernels get stabilised, so this information is readily > >> available. > > > > I'm sure I don't

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Arve, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 15:53:48 +0200, you wrote: > >> ... >> Only LTS kernels get stabilised, so this information is readily available. > > I'm sure I don't understand this: According to "https://www.kernel.org/; > kernel 6.6.27 is "longterm",

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Arve, On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 15:53:48 +0200, you wrote: > ... > Only LTS kernels get stabilised, so this information is readily available. I'm sure I don't understand this: According to "https://www.kernel.org/; kernel 6.6.27 is "longterm", but according to "eix" the most recent 6.6.*

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Dale wrote: > I've never understood what is supported long term either.  I use > gentoo-sources.  I've never figured out just how to pick a kernel that > is supposed to be stable for the larger version.  In other words, only > security and bug fixes, no new hardware.  Right now,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-16, Arve Barsnes wrote: >> On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok >> wrote: My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS upstream releases. >>> Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok > wrote: >>> My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS >>> upstream releases. >> Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just >> looking at the available

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok > wrote: >> > My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS >> > upstream releases. >> >> Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just >> looking at the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Jack
On 4/16/24 7:15 AM, Michael wrote: On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:55:20 BST Dale wrote: If you update often, it shouldn't take long answer the questions. If you do like me and don't update often, it may take longer but no more time than it would if you updated often and added all the time

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS > > upstream releases. > > Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just > looking at the available "gentoo-sources" which one is LTS and

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Michael, On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 11:15:07 +0100, you wrote: > ... > > But this brings up two related questions: > > > > 1. Why does Gentoo not somehow mark LTS kernels either in the version > >number or in the slot name? This would make it easier to prevent the > >installation of too

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:55:20 BST Dale wrote: > >> If you update often, it shouldn't take long answer the questions. If >> you do like me and don't update often, it may take longer but no more >> time than it would if you updated often and added all the time >> together. As

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:55:20 BST Dale wrote: > If you update often, it shouldn't take long answer the questions. If > you do like me and don't update often, it may take longer but no more > time than it would if you updated often and added all the time > together. As far as I know, if one

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > > On Monday, 2024-04-15 12:48:34 +0100, you wrote: > >> ... >> Why have you set your /boot to be mounted at boot? > Well, I think, I then just followed the Gentoo Handbook. But I see your > point of saving time which could be better used to successfully

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 10:04:43 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > > On Monday, 2024-04-15 12:48:34 +0100, you wrote: > > ... > > Why have you set your /boot to be mounted at boot? > > Well, I think, I then just followed the Gentoo Handbook. But I see your > point of saving time which

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Michael, On Monday, 2024-04-15 12:48:34 +0100, you wrote: > ... > Why have you set your /boot to be mounted at boot? Well, I think, I then just followed the Gentoo Handbook. But I see your point of saving time which could be better used to successfully unmount the "/home/" partition. I'll

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-04-15 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 08:33:20AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > (moving this to gentoo-user as this is really getting off-topic for -dev) > […] > We're going on almost 20 years since the Snowden revelations, and back > then the NSA was basically doing intrusion on an industrial scale. Weeaalll,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-15 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 14 April 2024 19:41:41 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Greetings, > > On Friday, 2024-01-05 18:46:09 +0100, I myself wrote: > > ... > > since a few month or so off and on my laptop fails to resume from hiber- > > nation due to the "dirty bit" being set on the ext4 "/home" partition. >

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-14 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Greetings, On Friday, 2024-01-05 18:46:09 +0100, I myself wrote: > ... > since a few month or so off and on my laptop fails to resume from hiber- > nation due to the "dirty bit" being set on the ext4 "/home" partition. I was reading this flickering by on the screen, and it wasn't quite cor-

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New profiles 23.0

2024-04-02 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, 30 March 2024 19:34:42 CEST Walter Dnes wrote: > Thanks for the help. I've migrated my 3 operating Gentoo machines; > main desktop, backup desktop, and an old used Lenovo Thinkpad X201. The > poor thing was thrashing away for over 18 hours with 657 packages on the > emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: silencing distcc with systemd

2024-04-01 Thread Daniel Frey
On 3/31/24 14:32, Alexandru N. Barloiu wrote: I think in the past, the service file had a -v. Somewhere near the present, they reverted to a non -v service file. So if you keep upgrading distcc, prolly the service file still has a -v from past installations. If you uninstall it, and install it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Alexandru N. Barloiu
No argument from me. That JiaTan dude had other projects forked he was looking at. And none of them are good news. zstd. lz4. libarchive. squashfs-tools. But still, I think its good news if people already figured how to turn it off in a few days. On 4/1/2024 1:36 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2024-04-01 at 01:32 +0300, Alexandru N. Barloiu wrote: > https://piaille.fr/@zeno/112185928685603910 > > There's an ENV var you can set that is a kill switch for the whole thing :) > For the part that we found :) The author of the backdoor had commit access to the upstream repository

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Alexandru N. Barloiu
https://piaille.fr/@zeno/112185928685603910 There's an ENV var you can set that is a kill switch for the whole thing :) On 4/1/2024 1:29 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On Sun, 2024-03-31 at 18:19 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: The old version will show up as liblzma.so.5.6.1. Restart anything

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sun, 2024-03-31 at 18:19 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > The old version will show up as liblzma.so.5.6.1. Restart anything that > uses it. Or liblzma.so.5.6.0

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sun, 2024-03-31 at 12:04 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > It is not necessary to rebuild anything, unless you're doing something > so unusual that you'd already know the answer to the question. > You should probably reboot afterwards though. For a more fine-grained approach, you can check for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 5:36 PM Wol wrote: > > On 31/03/2024 20:38, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: > > For commercial entities, the government could just contact the company > > and apply pressure, no need to sneak the backdoor in. Cf. RSA . > > Serving a "secret compliance" notice on a third party is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Wol
On 31/03/2024 20:38, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: For commercial entities, the government could just contact the company and apply pressure, no need to sneak the backdoor in. Cf. RSA . Apply pressure to who? At the end of the day, the only people the government can trust are their own agents.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: silencing distcc with systemd

2024-03-31 Thread Alexandru N. Barloiu
I think in the past, the service file had a -v. Somewhere near the present, they reverted to a non -v service file. So if you keep upgrading distcc, prolly the service file still has a -v from past installations. If you uninstall it, and install it again, then prolly you got the new service

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: silencing distcc with systemd

2024-03-31 Thread Alexandru N. Barloiu
/etc/systemd/system/distccd.service.d/00gentoo.conf or the service file. has to be. there cant be anything else. that's how distcc behaves when started with -v. do a ps axw. figure out where the -v is coming from. maybe a systemctl daemon-reload && systemctl restart distccd. cant be anything

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: silencing distcc with systemd

2024-03-31 Thread Daniel Frey
On 3/31/24 13:59, Alexandru N. Barloiu wrote: think the distcc.service file has an extra -v (--verbose). if you remove that, it will behave as expected. I checked all the units on one of the machines still showing the problem and an extra '-v' is not present in any of the files. That's a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: silencing distcc with systemd

2024-03-31 Thread Alexandru N. Barloiu
think the distcc.service file has an extra -v (--verbose). if you remove that, it will behave as expected. On 3/31/2024 11:57 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: On 3/29/24 22:38, Daniel Frey wrote: Hi all, I've moved a couple of machines from openrc to systemd. I have discovered this odd problem. On

[gentoo-user] Re: silencing distcc with systemd

2024-03-31 Thread Daniel Frey
On 3/29/24 22:38, Daniel Frey wrote: Hi all, I've moved a couple of machines from openrc to systemd. I have discovered this odd problem. On openrc, distcc was quiet during building packages. It would obey environment variable set in /etc/env.d: DISTCC_DIR=/var/distcc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
Den 31.03.2024 14:33, skrev Rich Freeman: (moving this to gentoo-user as this is really getting off-topic for -dev) It might also happen with commercial software, but the challenge there is HR as you can't just pay 1 person to masquerade as 10 when they all need to deal with payroll taxes.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 10:59 AM Michael wrote: > > On Sunday, 31 March 2024 13:33:20 BST Rich Freeman wrote: > > (moving this to gentoo-user as this is really getting off-topic for -dev) > > Thanks for bringing this to our attention Rich. > > Is downgrading to app-arch/xz-utils-5.4.2 all that is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Daniel Frey
On 3/31/24 07:59, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 31 March 2024 13:33:20 BST Rich Freeman wrote: (moving this to gentoo-user as this is really getting off-topic for -dev) Thanks for bringing this to our attention Rich. Is downgrading to app-arch/xz-utils-5.4.2 all that is needed for now, or are we

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 31 March 2024 13:33:20 BST Rich Freeman wrote: > (moving this to gentoo-user as this is really getting off-topic for -dev) Thanks for bringing this to our attention Rich. Is downgrading to app-arch/xz-utils-5.4.2 all that is needed for now, or are we meant to rebuilding any other/all

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Rich Freeman
(moving this to gentoo-user as this is really getting off-topic for -dev) On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 7:32 AM stefan1 wrote: > > Had I seen someone say that a bad actor would spend years gaining the > trust of FOSS > project maintainers in order to gain commit access and introduce such >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New profiles 23.0

2024-03-30 Thread Walter Dnes
Thanks for the help. I've migrated my 3 operating Gentoo machines; main desktop, backup desktop, and an old used Lenovo Thinkpad X201. The poor thing was thrashing away for over 18 hours with 657 packages on the emerge --emptytree!!! And that's after using a homebrew bash script to select the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to synchronise between 2 locations

2024-03-28 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, 28 March 2024 14:51:42 CET Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-03-27, Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 11:59 AM J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> I am looking for a way to synchronise a filesystem between 2 > >> servers. Changes can occur on both sides which means I need to > >>

[gentoo-user] Re: How to synchronise between 2 locations

2024-03-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-27, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 11:59 AM J. Roeleveld wrote: >> I am looking for a way to synchronise a filesystem between 2 >> servers. Changes can occur on both sides which means I need to >> have it synchronise in both directions. > > How synchronized? For

[gentoo-user] Re: New profiles 23.0

2024-03-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-26, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 04:21:23PM +, Michael wrote >> On Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:21:32 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: >> > I assume my system is already "merged-usr". Current profile... >> > >> > [12] default/linux/amd64/17.1/no-multilib (exp) * >> >

[gentoo-user] Re: New profiles 23.0

2024-03-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-26, Walter Dnes wrote: > I'm AMD64 stable OpenRC. I got tired of dicking around resizing > partitions years ago, so I have all data and binaries in one honking > big partition. Also separate partitions for UEFI and swap. I assume > my system is already "merged-usr". Current

[gentoo-user] Re: Stage-3 and profile 23.x

2024-03-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-25, Michael wrote: > On Monday, 25 March 2024 21:48:24 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Monday, 25 March 2024 16:52:19 GMT Michael wrote: >> >>> The default OpenRC installation now assumes a merged-usr fs structure - >>> therefore make sure you select the appropriate profile in a new

[gentoo-user] Re: Terminal emulator to replace Konsole

2024-03-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-23, Mickaël Bucas wrote: > I think it's not a terminal emulator feature, but rather a shell > feature. > > Some terminal programs are designed to interact with the mouse, but > bash command line, based on readline, doesn't react to mouse clicks. Agreed. > I've tried Midnight

[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-sources 5.15.151 breaks amdgpu support?

2024-03-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-11, Grant Edwards wrote: > I upgraded gentoo-sources from 5.15.147 to 5.15.151 this morning and > amdgpu support is now borked on my system with an AMD Ryzen 5 3400G > with Radeon Vega Graphics. > > Everything worked fine with 5.15.147, but when 5.15.151 (built with > same .config via

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-11 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/03/2024 22:44, Carsten Hauck wrote: The CPU of the machine in question is in deed an old AMD. It's good to know the reason for that build-failures, thanks a lot. I certainly will stick to "-clang" in my package.use. Interesting. I'm not at all sure how old my CPU is, but at four cores

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: is a global use flag necessary for python?

2024-03-11 Thread n952162
Good tips, thank you. On 3/10/24 22:53, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 06:43:56PM -, Grant Edwards wrote Just back up your user data and re-install. Also back up /etc/ for your app configs and stuff like hosts and resolve.conf and make.ccnf and package.use and package.mask

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-10 Thread Carsten Hauck
On 10/03/24 at 01:50, mp666 wrote: On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 08:04:06 +, Wols Lists wrote: For anyone else who hits this sort of problem, I did an USE=-clang emerge --update @world (firefox and thunderbird were the only programs I thought this would touch), and it worked. There were a couple

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: is a global use flag necessary for python?

2024-03-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 06:43:56PM -, Grant Edwards wrote > Just back up your user data and re-install. Also back up /etc/ for your app configs and stuff like hosts and resolve.conf and make.ccnf and package.use and package.mask etc. And remember /var/lib/. /var/lib/portage/ has your

[gentoo-user] Re: is a global use flag necessary for python?

2024-03-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-09, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 07:55:13PM +0100, n952162 wrote >> I just synced my system after a long delay, > > That's your problem right there. Yep, to quote Olivia Rodrigo... Bad idea, right? >> Is there a way to do it globally? > > First of all python

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-03-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-10, Michael wrote: > Perhaps I'm picking up on semantics, but shouldn't this sentence: > > "... The gap between the DOS disklabel and the first partition" > > read: > > "The gap between the MBR and the first partition"? Yes, thanks -- MBR is more accurate, I've changed that sentence.

[gentoo-user] Re: Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-10 Thread mp666
On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 08:04:06 +, Wols Lists wrote: > For anyone else who hits this sort of problem, I did an > > USE=-clang emerge --update @world > > (firefox and thunderbird were the only programs I thought this would > touch), and it worked. > > There were a couple of other programs that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-03-10 Thread Michael
On Friday, 8 March 2024 23:24:02 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-02-22, Grant Edwards wrote: > > For many years, I've used a hard drive on which I have 8-10 Linux > > distros installed -- each in a separate (single) partition. > > > > [...] > > > > Is there an easier way to do this? > >

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-03-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-22, Grant Edwards wrote: > For many years, I've used a hard drive on which I have 8-10 Linux > distros installed -- each in a separate (single) partition. > > [...] > > Is there an easier way to do this? After some additional studying of UEFI and boot managers like rEFInd, I decided

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem with "GRUB upgrades" news item

2024-03-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-06, Walter Dnes wrote: > I've got a UEFI system. According to the news item... > >> Re-runing grub-install both with and without the --removable option >> should ensure a working GRUB installation. > > I tried that... > > [i3][root][~] grub-install I believe you have to run

[gentoo-user] Re: CPU ISA level is lower than required

2024-03-06 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2024-03-04, Alexander Puchmayr wrote: > On Sonntag, 3. März 2024, 18:45:16 CET Alexander Puchmayr wrote: >> Am Sonntag, 3. März 2024, 14:32:41 CET schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: >> > > I set CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe march=x86-64-v2" on the buildhost and >> > > performed a emerge -ev @world, re-creating

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