On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 07:18:30AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote
Can you find one example of any situation where the linux kernel has
ever required any specific implementation of anything in userspace as
a matter of policy
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 07:18:30AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
What worries me is that Lennart has been able to get modifications
done to the kernel, e.g. kdbus. I know this'll sound paranoid, but how
long before
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 05:48:49PM +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote
I wouldn't worry about it at all, there is no way *sys-fs/udev ebuild*
will ever need systemd. There might be a news item later, with
instructions on
On 9/26/2014 1:04 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 25/09/14 22:03, James wrote:
I'd be better of with a fresh install of lilblue + musl + eudev
is what you are really saying here?
that's the only usecase for eudev currently, yes, otherwise you have no
reason to switch
Hi
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
eudev is looking more attractive every day... but can it continue to
work and be supported if Lennart gets his way and upstream udev stops
working without systemd?
Well, there are no plans to make udev stop working
On 11/10/2014 7:30 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Well, there are no plans to make udev stop working without systemd as
far as I can tell. HOWEVER, there ARE plans to require using kdbus to
communicate with udev, and for that to work there needs to be a
userspace initialization of
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 11/10/2014 7:30 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Well, there are no plans to make udev stop working without systemd as
far as I can tell. HOWEVER, there ARE plans to require using kdbus to
communicate with
On 10/11/14 13:04, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 9/26/2014 1:04 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 25/09/14 22:03, James wrote:
I'd be better of with a fresh install of lilblue + musl + eudev
is what you are really saying here?
that's the only usecase for eudev currently, yes,
On 11/10/2014 10:48 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
I wouldn't worry about it at all, there is no way *sys-fs/udev
ebuild* will ever need systemd. There might be a news item later,
with instructions on moving to something else, but that's not
something we are even planning at
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 05:48:49PM +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote
I wouldn't worry about it at all, there is no way *sys-fs/udev ebuild*
will ever need systemd. There might be a news item later, with
instructions on moving to something else, but that's not something we
are even planning at the
On 11/11/14 07:20, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 05:48:49PM +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote
I wouldn't worry about it at all, there is no way *sys-fs/udev ebuild*
will ever need systemd. There might be a news item later, with
instructions on moving to something else, but that's not
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 05:48:49PM +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote
I wouldn't worry about it at all, there is no way *sys-fs/udev ebuild*
will ever need systemd. There might be a news item later, with
instructions on
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:27:15 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I buy machines with one ethernet interface. What I find
particularly annoying is this doublespeak about calling it
predictable. Before the change, it was predicatbly eth0. Now,
it's different on every different model.
It's
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:07 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:27:15 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I buy machines with one ethernet interface. What I find
particularly annoying is this doublespeak about calling it
predictable. Before the change, it was
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 03:22:16 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
That may be true for PCI devices but not for USB ones. If you unplug a
USB device and plug it back into the same port, it will get a
different device number. The naming is more predictable, but it's not
there yet.
That
On 26/09/14 11:22, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:07 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:27:15 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I buy machines with one ethernet interface. What I find
particularly annoying is this doublespeak about calling
On 26/09/14 11:47, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 26/09/14 11:22, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:07 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:27:15 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I buy machines with one ethernet interface. What I find
particularly
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:04:47 +0300, Samuli Suominen
(ssuomi...@gentoo.org) wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev (viable)
alternatives ? (in 54252c2f.1030...@gentoo.org):
[snip]
Later kernels *can mark interfaces predictable in a new form of
metadata*, and udev = 209 can
pick that information
On 26/09/14 19:47, David W Noon wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:04:47 +0300, Samuli Suominen
(ssuomi...@gentoo.org) wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev (viable)
alternatives ? (in 54252c2f.1030...@gentoo.org):
[snip]
Later kernels *can mark interfaces predictable in a new form of
metadata
Samuli Suominen ssuominen at gentoo.org writes:
Any other caveats (short term) on switching udev to eudev?
in fact, from what I last checked, eudev's networking is at same level
with udev-208, from time before the .link support at all
ah, back when ethernet defaulted to eth0 not enp5s0 ?
James wrote:
Samuli Suominen ssuominen at gentoo.org writes:
Any other caveats (short term) on switching udev to eudev?
in fact, from what I last checked, eudev's networking is at same level
with udev-208, from time before the .link support at all
ah, back when ethernet defaulted to eth0
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 07:03:02PM +, James wrote
Samuli Suominen ssuominen at gentoo.org writes:
Any other caveats (short term) on switching udev to eudev?
in fact, from what I last checked, eudev's networking is at same level
with udev-208, from time before the .link support at
On 26/09/2014 02:23, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 07:03:02PM +, James wrote
Samuli Suominen ssuominen at gentoo.org writes:
Any other caveats (short term) on switching udev to eudev?
in fact, from what I last checked, eudev's networking is at same level
with udev-208,
On 25/09/14 22:03, James wrote:
Samuli Suominen ssuominen at gentoo.org writes:
Any other caveats (short term) on switching udev to eudev?
in fact, from what I last checked, eudev's networking is at same level
with udev-208, from time before the .link support at all
ah, back when ethernet
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